[Rhodes22-list] engine replacement

Wed Sep 16 10:49:18 EDT 2015

Hopefully it is practical to repair your Yamaha.  I have an 8-hp, manual start, long shaft which I find has plenty of power for the Rhodes.  Bear in mind that if you are considering the 8 hp Yamaha, you will need to add the expense of a voltage rectifier if you want it to charge your batteries.  The electric start 8 & 9.9 hp engines come equipped with this. Don SimonsIthaca, NY
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I also have the Yamaha and enjoy the easy access flushing valve, flush after each use and I also run the engine out of fuel after each use.  

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We have a Yamaha that has performed flawlessly since we started using non-ethanol gas. We went with the Yamaha because  of the ease of using the flushing port. Because we keep the boat in a slip in salt water we like to flush the engine with fresh water after every use. 
This is after a previous Honda died due to salt build up and corrosion in the cooling passages. I believe the newer Hondas have a flushing port but I think you still have to remove the cowl to get to it (at least you did 6 years ago when we were looking for a new
engine.) The Yamaha's port is accessible and all you do is attach a hose to the port near the top of the engine. If you are not in salt water (or even if you are and don't keep the boat in a slip) this may not matter.

Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
recycled 1998
Rock Hall, MD

At 09:57 AM 9/16/2015, you wrote:
>Tohatsu gets consistently high marks from marina operators and outboard 
>service shops. They like the responsiveness of Tohatsu to parts 
>requests and Tohatsu often provides free replacements if something 
>fails, even out of warranty. Even so, Yamaha probably has 80% of the 
>outboard market in Florida. A number of Hondas (including ours) and 
>relatively few Mercurys
>
>Larry Allen
>Makai
>Sarasota
>larrywallen at verizon.net
>
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>Jay, if I were you, I would consider the Tohatsu line of outboards. 
>Lots of discussion on the list over the years, but it is basically the 
>same engine as the Mercury--with a lower price tag. You can order 
>online with free shipping.
>
>Cheers,
>Ted
>
> > On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:51 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > Graham,
> >
> > I hear ya. Tomorrow I'll turn the engine on. If it turns over I'll 
> > turn it off and consider water pump replacement. If it doesn't turn 
> > over or sounds unusual, I'll assume it's a contaminated line like 
> > you describe and buy a new engine. The middle ground is the 
> > difficult choice. Probably 70/30 the engine is history regardless. 
> > It's that
> > 3/10 that generates both greed and remorse. What odds would you 
> > assign
>this horse(power) race?
> >
> > Jay Weiss
> > R-22 1998. Hanali
> > Poughkeepsie, NY
> >
> > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Jay:
> >> If the pump fails and you run the engine for more than a few 
> >> minutes without coolant running through you can damage the engine 
> >> irreparably. The impeller breaks up and clogs the water passages. 
> >> It takes a complete engine rebuild to fix it and for old motors it 
> >> might not be worth the expense.  I suspect now that your problem is 
> >> more than just the pump/impeller.
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile. R22, 1976
> >> Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On 
> >> Behalf Of The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> Sent: September 15, 2015 5:24 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] engine replacement
> >>
> >> The engine may be fried. I acquired the boat last year without 
> >> knowing its maintenance history. Recently the carburetor was 
> >> rebuilt and engine overhauled, prop replaced, oil changed, that 
> >> sort of thing. There was no issue until, of course, the engine was 
> >> used in the water, and it then overheated. My mechanic said the 
> >> water pump repair would be difficult which is why I'm thinking 
> >> about replacement. If repair is easy I would have him do it but I'm 
> >> worried that he'll continue to discover just one more issue in this 
> >> old engine, although I'm not sure how many more problems he could find.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:25 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < 
> >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jay,
> >>> Did you fry the engine or just looking for an excuse to replace it?
> >>> A faulty water pump (replace impeller) is a pretty easy and 
> >>> inexpensive repair. - Rob Lowe
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] engine replacement
> >>>
> >>> My 15 year old Yamaha 9.9 4-stroke is overheating with the likely 
> >>> diagnosis a faulty water pump. I'm thinking that it's time to 
> >>> replace
>it.
> >>> The local marina sells and services Mercury. Any advice on whether 
> >>> to replace and matters associated with Merc's is appreciated. 
> >>> Thanks
>fellas.
> >>>
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