[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route

Fri Sep 25 11:06:58 EDT 2015

Does anyone know how thick the neoprene gasket is? I may have to make my own.

Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada

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Here is a picture I took about a decade ago that shows the routing.  Use nylon locknuts but do not overtighten. The gasket will conform easily.  When I did it I got a new gasket from Stan an copied the hole pattern from the old gasket.  No leaks.

http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200507/14/Getaway1.jpg

Ron Lipton

On 9/24/15 10:36 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List wrote:
> Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The difference between this and Rob's is that the line starts at the cap rather than the centreboard. In Ron's case there will be three attachment points on the centerboard while with mine there are just two.
>
> Frankly, I would not worry too much about the route you take. Using blocks should make raising the centerboard easier but apparently some have dispensed with the blocks altogether. I tested that myself and found that the weight on the line was substantial and aside for the effort to raise it, that put a lot more strain on the cleat. It may be, however, that the newer "diamond" centerboards require less effort to raise.
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> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
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> Depends on your setup, but here is one possible routing. - Rob
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> Rob Lowe
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> Might search the archives,  but I remember a diagram of being posted of the pendant and associated blocks,  I believe it listed the length of line needed.
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> James.
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> Sep 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM
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> I agree with Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length needed?). Yours probably was replaced with inferior line.  Keep an eye out for something sharp.  I wouldnt whip the line.
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> Bob (palatka)
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>> On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
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>> Slim:
>> The line also has to pass through a series of blocks and I would be concerned that the whipping might not pass through properly. I would skip the whipping and try to find out what is fraying the line. Mine is still good after 40 years so I expect there is some rough edge rubbing on the line that might be corrected fairly easily.
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>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
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>> Thanks all for the welcoming replies. Nice to see some familiar names and old friends. Fandango's been on the hard for a few years while I went through some major changes but I finally got her in the water this summer and remembered why I like this boat so much. I've done quite a bit of much-needed maintenance and still more to come but the centerboard line was about to break so that's the priority now.
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>> I was able to get in contact with Stan who said the neoprene gasket should be reusable and that any quarter inch line will do, although I'll look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I'm thinking a whipping right where it gets cleated would be a good idea so long as it doesn't bulk up the line too much to slide through the hole. While I have the line out I might drill that hole just a little bigger. I never want to do this job again so an anti-chafe whip came to mind.
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>> I started in on it today and took off the breaker panel, the big board that serves as the companionway step, settee and hinged passageway (all one piece), the step support and the floor board around the trunk. I counted 56 bolts around the trunk! They're ss phillips heads (many stripped out heads at that -- don't know why they'd be stripped -- how many times has the trunk been removed?) with washers and lock nuts. It's a royal PITA removing even the bolts with the good heads to say nothing of the stripped ones! I got about half of them off and quit for the day.
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>> This may take a while but there should be plenty of good weather left in the season to work on it before it gets too cold so no need to rush through it. [grin] I'll try to get some photos and keep you posted.
>>
>> Thanks again everybody!
>>
>> -Slim
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
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>>> Slim: Use high quality yacht braid.  It will last longer than other 
>>> line in a cam cleat.
>>> The gasket is neoprene and doesnt need a sealant. Just clean the 
>>> surfaces really well.
>>> If your cap is put on with screws, most recommend changing to ss 
>>> bolts and nylock ss nuts.
>>>
>>> Bob (palatka)
>>>
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:35 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is Steve Alm ("Slim") and I live in 
>>>> Minneapolis, MN and also in Menomonie, WI. I was an active list 
>>>> user for quite a few years back before many of us migrated to Facebook.
>>>> I've had
>>> my
>>>> R22 for about 17 years and it needs some attention. The centerboard
>>> control
>>>> line is getting frayed where it always meets the cleat when all the 
>>>> way
>>> up
>>>> so I want to replace it before it breaks and I'd have no way to 
>>>> raise
>>> it. I
>>>> guess then I'd have a fixed keel boat, No?
>>>>
>>>> I've emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and possibly the line itself. 
>>>> I
>>> don't
>>>> know exactly what kind of line this is. It's stiffer than the stuff 
>>>> I see at West Marine so I don't really know what to ask for, or if 
>>>> it's even critical.
>>>>
>>>> Have any of y'all ever done this? I'd love some advice or tips on 
>>>> the procedure. For instance, when you put all the trunk screws back 
>>>> in, do
>>> you
>>>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same? Gasket sealer 
>>>> brand/type?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>> Slim
>>>> SV Fandango
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner 
>>>>> <rodellner at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi List!
>>>>>
>>>>> This is from Mary (Rod’s wife).  I am sending this, as Slim 
>>>>> (Steven
>>> Alm)
>>>>> has a Rhodes 22 issue…….and he has been “off da list” for 
>>>>> awhile……(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with us!)
>>>>>
>>>>> Take him “under your wings”!      Thank You!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mary Ellner
>>>>> s/v Toy Blew
>>>>> St Croix River/WI
>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> General Boats is listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the 
>>>>>> Rhodes
>>> 22
>>>>> is
>>>>>> not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just bringing 
>>>>>> groceries
>>> from
>>>>> his
>>>>>> new business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Bob Weiss
>>>>>> Beach Spring
>>>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
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