[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route
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Here is a picture of the block which turns the pennant up into the
tube leading to the cockpit on a 1976/1977. This was on the boat I
took to the dump last month. It was about 3/4" secured to the fear
wall of the trunk cap with an eyelet.
Todd T.
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The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
Graham,
I had the system with the blocks on my `81. I replaced the blocks
from Dwyer once in 33 years for pocket change. My `91 has the
diamond board without blocks and is too heavy for my wife to raise.
As I age, I look to more mechanical advantage rather than less.
My last order for spares from Dwyer
([2]https://www.dwyermast.com/families.asp?cat1ID=70&cat1Name=Block
s)
in August of this year was as follows:
DH 441 - Shroud Adjuster 1 Ordered @ $10.10/ea Item Total - $10.10
DH 855 - Shackle 3 Ordered @ $4.70/ea Item Total - $14.10
DH 921 - Eye Strap 3 Ordered @ $1.50/ea Item Total - $4.50
DH 923 - Eye Strap 1 Ordered @ $4.00/ea Item Total - $4.00
DH 912 - Swivel Block 5 Ordered @ $10.90/ea Item Total - $54.50
DH 911 - Bullet Block 3 Ordered @ $7.50/ea Item Total - $22.50
Sub Total: $109.70 Shipping & Handling: $13.88 CT Sales Tax: $0.00
Order Total: $123.58
Not really a lot of money to be able to replace chewed up blocks
and stuff.
Mike
s/v Windlass (`91)
Nissequogue River, NY
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I wonder if anyone has gone without blocks on the older
centerboard. I like the idea of abandoning the blocks but when I
"tested" it on my boat by simply trying to raise the board while on
dry land it seemed to require a lot of effort. Perhaps when in the
water it would be easier. On my boat I found that the blocks had
all seized up so going without them might eliminate something that
can, and will, go wrong.
Graham Stewart
Agile. R22, 1976
Kingston Ontario Canada
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Yes we do have the "diamond board" and that may make a difference
for the angle of the pennant to the attachment points. However, we
did originally have a block or blocks. I believe (but don`t
know) that they are similar weights.
Mary Lou
At 11:46 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
>Don`t you have the diamond board Mary Lou?
>Jerry
>
>
> We are amongst those who have dispensed with the blocks.
> >
> > It makes it very easy to change out the pennant with the boat
up in
> > slings for bottom painting (after doing it ourselves for
several
> > years, we now pay a marina to bottom paint the boat.) And we
> > haven`t found it hard to raise or lower the centerboard - I do
that
> > mostly. It`s not effortless, but it`s not hard either.
> >
> > Best,
> > Mary Lou
> > 1991 R22 Fretless
> >
> > At 11:36 AM 9/24/2015, you wrote:
> >>Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The
> >>difference between this and Rob`s is that the line starts at
the cap
> >>rather than the centreboard. In Ron`s case there will be three
> >>attachment points on the centerboard while with mine there are
just
> >>two. Frankly, I would not worry too much about the route you
take.
> >>Using blocks should make raising the centerboard easier but
> >>apparently some have dispensed with the blocks altogether. I
tested
> >>that myself and found that the weight on the line was
substantial
> >>and aside for the effort to raise it, that put a lot more
strain on
> >>the cleat. It may be, however, that the newer "diamond"
> >>centerboards require less effort to raise.
> >>Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada
> >>-----Original Message----- From:
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> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The
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> >>September 23, 2015 5:07 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re:
> >>[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? Depends on your setup, but here is
one
> >>possible routing. - Rob
> >>[3]http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-lis
> t/attachments/20140507/b8028f59/attachment.JPG
> >>Rob Lowe -----Original Message----- From:
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> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The
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> >>Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:43 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email
List
> >>Subject: Re:
> >>[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? Might search the archives, but I
> >>remember a diagram of being posted of the pendant and
associated
> >>blocks, I believe it listed the length of line needed.
> >>James. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"The Rhodes 22
Email
> >>List"
> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date:Wed, Sep 23,
> >>2015 at 12:49 PM Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? I agree
with
> >>Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length
needed?).
> >>Yours probably was replaced with inferior line. Keep an eye out
for
> >>something sharp. I wouldnt whip the line. Bob (palatka) > On
Sep
> >>23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >><rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > Slim: > The line also
has to
> >>pass through a series of blocks and I would be concerned that
the
> >>whipping might not pass through properly. I would skip the
whipping
> >>and try to find out what is fraying the line. Mine is still
good
> >>after 40 years so I expect there is some rough edge rubbing on
the
> >>line that might be corrected fairly easily. > > Graham Stewart
>
> >>Agile. R22,
> >>1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> >>> From:
> >>rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org >
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The
Rhodes
> >>22 > Email List > Sent:
> >>September 22, 2015 10:18 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? > > Thanks all for the
> >>welcoming replies.
> >>Nice to see some familiar names and old friends.
> >>Fandango`s been on the hard for a few years while I went
through
> >>some major changes but I finally got her in the water this
summer
> >>and remembered why I like this boat so much. I`ve done quite a
bit
> >>of much-needed maintenance and still more to come but the
> >>centerboard line was about to break so that`s the priority now.
> >
> >>I was able to get in contact with Stan who said the neoprene
gasket
> >>should be reusable and that any quarter inch line will do,
although
> >>I`ll look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I`m
> >>thinking a whipping right where it gets cleated would be a good
idea
> >>so long as it doesn`t bulk up the line too much to slide
through the
> >>hole. While I have the line out I might drill that hole just a
> >>little bigger. I never want to do this job again so an
anti-chafe
> >>whip came to mind. > > I started in on it today and took off
the
> >>breaker panel, the big board that serves as the companionway
step,
> >>settee and hinged passageway (all one piece), the step support
and
> >>the floor board around the trunk. I counted 56 bolts around the
> >>trunk! They`re ss phillips heads (many stripped out heads at
that
> >>-- don`t know why they`d be stripped -- how many times has the
trunk
> >>been removed?) with washers and lock nuts. It`s a royal PITA
> >>removing even the bolts with the good heads to say nothing of
the
> >>stripped ones! I got about half of them off and quit for the
day. >
> >>> This may take a while but there should be plenty of good
weather
> >>left in the season to work on it before it gets too cold so no
need
> >>to rush through it. [grin] I`ll try to get some photos and keep
you
> >>posted. > > Thanks again everybody! > > -Slim > >> On Tue, Sep
22,
> >>2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >>
> >>Slim: Use high quality yacht braid. It will last longer than
other
> >>>> line in a cam cleat. >> The gasket is neoprene and doesnt
need a
> >>sealant. Just clean the >> surfaces really well. >> If your cap
is
> >>put on with screws, most recommend changing to ss >> bolts and
> >>nylock ss nuts. >> >> Bob (palatka) >> >>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at
1:35
> >>PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>wrote: >>> >>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is Steve Alm
("Slim")
> >>and I live in >>> Minneapolis, MN and also in Menomonie, WI. I
was
> >>an active list user >>> for quite a few years back before many
of us
> >>migrated to Facebook. >>> I`ve had >> my >>> R22 for about 17
years
> >>and it needs some attention.
> >>The centerboard >> control >>> line is getting frayed where it
> >>always meets the cleat when all the >>> way >> up >>> so I want
to
> >>replace it before it breaks and I`d have no way to >>> raise >>
it.
> >>I >>> guess then I`d have a fixed keel boat, No? >>> >>> I`ve
> >>emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and possibly the line itself. I
>>
> >>don`t >>> know exactly what kind of line this is. It`s stiffer
than
> >>the stuff >>> I see at West Marine so I don`t really know what
to
> >>ask for, or if >>> it`s even critical. >>> >>> Have any of
y`all
> >>ever done this? I`d love some advice or tips on >>> the
procedure.
> >>For instance, when you put all the trunk screws back >>> in, do
>>
> >>you >>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same?
Gasket
> >>sealer >>> brand/type? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any
> >>suggestions. >>> Slim >>> SV Fandango >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 22,
2015
> >>at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at icloud.com> >>
> >>wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi List! >>>> >>>> This is from Mary
(RodâEUR(TM)s
> >>wife). I am sending this, as Slim (Steven >> Alm) >>>> has a
Rhodes
> >>22 issue...ââEUR¦.and he has been âEURoeoff da listâEUR½ for
>>>>
> >>awhileâEUR¦...(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with
us!)) >>>>
> >>>>>> Take him âEURoeunder
> >>your wingsâEUR½! Thank You! >>>> >>>> Mary
> >>Ellner >>>> s/v Toy Blew >>>> St Croix River/WI >>>>>> On Sep
22,
> >>2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List < >>>>>
> >>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> General Boats is
> >>listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the >>>>> Rhodes >>
22
> >>>>>> is >>>>> not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just
> >>bringing groceries >> from >>>> his >>>>> new business. >>>>>
>>>>>
> >>Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Bob Weiss >>>>> Beach
Spring
> >>>>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 >>>>> -- >>>>> View this
> >>message in context: >>>>
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