[Rhodes22-list] Boat Show? centerboard line route

Sun Sep 27 15:15:04 EDT 2015

I got the cap off today after wrestling with the stripped Phillips head
bolts, which I will replace with hex heads. My boat is a 1990 with the
diamond board and no blocks on the pennant. It's direct lift which I
suspected due to the short length of line from up to down. I won't need
more than about 4-5 feet of new line. The old line was much longer, perhaps
to be able to control while sitting back at the helm (?). I had gathered
all that extra line into a sort of monkey fist handle and I never needed it
to reach to the stern.

I'm trying to remember how to post a photo here…

Slim

On Thursday, September 24, 2015, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Here is a crude diagram of how mine is set up on a 76 boat. The difference
> between this and Rob's is that the line starts at the cap rather than the
> centreboard. In Ron's case there will be three attachment points on the
> centerboard while with mine there are just two.
>
> Frankly, I would not worry too much about the route you take. Using blocks
> should make raising the centerboard easier but apparently some have
> dispensed with the blocks altogether. I tested that myself and found that
> the weight on the line was substantial and aside for the effort to raise
> it, that put a lot more strain on the cleat. It may be, however, that the
> newer "diamond" centerboards require less effort to raise.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;> [mailto:
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of The
> Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: September 23, 2015 5:07 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>
> Depends on your setup, but here is one possible routing. - Rob
>
>
> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20140507/b8028f59/attachment.JPG
>
>
> Rob Lowe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of The
> Rhodes 22 Email List
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 4:43 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>
> Might search the archives,  but I remember a diagram of being posted of
> the pendant and associated blocks,  I believe it listed the length of line
> needed.
>
>
> James.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> From:"The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>>
> Date:Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 12:49 PM
> Subject:Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
>
> I agree with Graham. Use the yacht braid (anyone know the ideal length
> needed?). Yours probably was replaced with inferior line.  Keep an eye out
> for something sharp.  I wouldnt whip the line.
>
> Bob (palatka)
>
> > On Sep 23, 2015, at 11:08 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Slim:
> > The line also has to pass through a series of blocks and I would be
> concerned that the whipping might not pass through properly. I would skip
> the whipping and try to find out what is fraying the line. Mine is still
> good after 40 years so I expect there is some rough edge rubbing on the
> line that might be corrected fairly easily.
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile. R22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of
> The Rhodes 22
> > Email List
> > Sent: September 22, 2015 10:18 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show?
> >
> > Thanks all for the welcoming replies. Nice to see some familiar names
> and old friends. Fandango's been on the hard for a few years while I went
> through some major changes but I finally got her in the water this summer
> and remembered why I like this boat so much. I've done quite a bit of
> much-needed maintenance and still more to come but the centerboard line was
> about to break so that's the priority now.
> >
> > I was able to get in contact with Stan who said the neoprene gasket
> should be reusable and that any quarter inch line will do, although I'll
> look for the high quality yacht braid Bob suggests. I'm thinking a whipping
> right where it gets cleated would be a good idea so long as it doesn't bulk
> up the line too much to slide through the hole. While I have the line out I
> might drill that hole just a little bigger. I never want to do this job
> again so an anti-chafe whip came to mind.
> >
> > I started in on it today and took off the breaker panel, the big board
> that serves as the companionway step, settee and hinged passageway (all one
> piece), the step support and the floor board around the trunk. I counted 56
> bolts around the trunk! They're ss phillips heads (many stripped out heads
> at that -- don't know why they'd be stripped -- how many times has the
> trunk been removed?) with washers and lock nuts. It's a royal PITA removing
> even the bolts with the good heads to say nothing of the stripped ones! I
> got about half of them off and quit for the day.
> >
> > This may take a while but there should be plenty of good weather left in
> the season to work on it before it gets too cold so no need to rush through
> it. [grin] I'll try to get some photos and keep you posted.
> >
> > Thanks again everybody!
> >
> > -Slim
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:17 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Slim: Use high quality yacht braid.  It will last longer than other
> >> line in a cam cleat.
> >> The gasket is neoprene and doesnt need a sealant. Just clean the
> >> surfaces really well.
> >> If your cap is put on with screws, most recommend changing to ss
> >> bolts and nylock ss nuts.
> >>
> >> Bob (palatka)
> >>
> >>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 1:35 PM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello dear Rhodies -- My name is Steve Alm ("Slim") and I live in
> >>> Minneapolis, MN and also in Menomonie, WI. I was an active list user
> >>> for quite a few years back before many of us migrated to Facebook.
> >>> I've had
> >> my
> >>> R22 for about 17 years and it needs some attention. The centerboard
> >> control
> >>> line is getting frayed where it always meets the cleat when all the
> >>> way
> >> up
> >>> so I want to replace it before it breaks and I'd have no way to
> >>> raise
> >> it. I
> >>> guess then I'd have a fixed keel boat, No?
> >>>
> >>> I've emailed Stan for a trunk gasket and possibly the line itself. I
> >> don't
> >>> know exactly what kind of line this is. It's stiffer than the stuff
> >>> I see at West Marine so I don't really know what to ask for, or if
> >>> it's even critical.
> >>>
> >>> Have any of y'all ever done this? I'd love some advice or tips on
> >>> the procedure. For instance, when you put all the trunk screws back
> >>> in, do
> >> you
> >>> need to use a torque wrench to get them all the same? Gasket sealer
> >>> brand/type?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >>> Slim
> >>> SV Fandango
> >>>
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Rod Ellner <rodellner at icloud.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi List!
> >>>>
> >>>> This is from Mary (Rod’s wife).  I am sending this, as Slim (Steven
> >> Alm)
> >>>> has a Rhodes 22 issue…….and he has been “off da list” for
> >>>> awhile……(and Rummy the Rhodes Guru is no longer with us!)
> >>>>
> >>>> Take him “under your wings”!      Thank You!
> >>>>
> >>>> Mary Ellner
> >>>> s/v Toy Blew
> >>>> St Croix River/WI
> >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:27 AM, The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> General Boats is listed online in the Exhibitors list, but the
> >>>>> Rhodes
> >> 22
> >>>> is
> >>>>> not listed in the boat list. Maybe Stan is just bringing groceries
> >> from
> >>>> his
> >>>>> new business.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----
> >>>>> Bob Weiss
> >>>>> Beach Spring
> >>>>> 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014
> >>>>> --
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> >>>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Boat-Show-tp50906p50919.html
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