[Rhodes22-list] Tiller/motor connection pics?

Tue Jul 19 10:15:41 EDT 2016

Joe
What kind of initial cost was involved???? This solution sounds very interesting 

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Charles 
s/v Daydream
98 R 22
Joe Pool Lake; Dallas, TX

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Joseph Doucet <jadoucet at snet.net> wrote:
> 
> This has been a good discussion on how to manage a R22 in crowded harbors using a gasoline outboard. A lot of good suggestions 
> 
> My solution is to use an electric motor.  It gives one much better control at low speeds with the speed / direction controls on the motor handle. Most motors have a handle extension built in. I stand with the tiller in one hand and the motor handle in the other.  I use a bank of light weight  lithium batteries that I either charge at the dock overnight or use a 50w solar charger when at anchor.
> 
> Advantages:
> No noise
> No gasoline smell
> Can motor sail if necessary
> 
> Disadvantage :
> More limited range
> Less power at high speeds
> 
> Recycled 2004
> Joe-the-elder in Connecticut
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What's even more impressive is sailing into your moorings with no motor!
>> Make sure you have the sacrificial wife on the fore-deck to fend off...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>> 
>> Richard Beytagh
>> Phone: 828 337 0180
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 6:27 AM, Lance Horne <lastmango68 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mary Lou has it. The only thing I can add is that prop walk and spring
>>> lines can also help. Find a place away from other boats. Practice, practice
>>> circles and figure 8’s forward and reverse at changing speeds; change
>>> directions and do the same. Practice stopping upwind, downwind, crosswind,
>>> and with various current positions. Your hand will automatically become a
>>> part of the motor, throttling up and down, neutral, forward,neutral,
>>> reverse. Before you know it the other boaters will be envious of your
>>> skills. Docking and undocking can actually be fun. If I can do it you can
>>> also.    Last Mango
>>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Olivier Hecht <ohecht at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Mary Lou, and I'm glad you and Fred are back home with Tara after
>>> what sounds like an epic trip!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 18, 2016, at 9:23 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just back from NC with Tara (12 days from Oriental to RH, 341 nm,
>>> marina-hopping all the way because of the heat) and saw your question.
>>> Can't help with the rudder-tiller connection as we never did it but can
>>> talk about operating in a marina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is what we discovered about maneuvering in tight spaces. Note that
>>> there were always two of us, often including me on the bow with the
>>> boathook. Part of the issue is the high-thrust Yamaha engine. That big prop
>>> is great for moving through choppy water but not as good as our old Honda
>>> for maneuvering in tight spaces or in reverse. Fred found that short bursts
>>> of power were more effective than slow and steady - in other words, a burst
>>> of power to get the boat moving and then back to neutral while you steer
>>> with the rudder. Easy to do with the cockpit controls but it took a lot of
>>> practice and finesse to get the proper amounts of throttle and neutral and
>>> to make the turns with the tiller at the right moment or the right amount.
>>> The motor is off the center line so backing in one direction is different
>>> than backing in the other with the prop turning. The short bursts of power
>>> get the boat moving but allow the rudder to do the steering.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this is helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary Lou
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At 05:45 AM 7/18/2016, you wrote:
>>>>>> Hello. Sailing Fretless is great but any docking or other slow speed
>>> maneuvers under power, especially in reverse, is proving terribly
>>> ineffective.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I reached out to Stan but I guess the installation involves some
>>> custom work and I'd like to get a solution before I have a chance to let
>>> him have the boat for a while.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone have some good close up pictures of the mechanism and/or
>>> part numbers?  Or other solutions that have worked?  The motor is a Yamaha
>>> 8hp 4-stoke in case that matters.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>> s/v Fretless
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