[Rhodes22-list] electrical banana

Wed Oct 19 10:51:43 EDT 2016

love the idea of electric inboard - my brother-in-law converted his Tartan 27 to electric
It works great - quiet and like stan says - more in the with sailpower
Ric

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, I am confused but can always pull the old age card.
> 
> i thought this e-mail went to Chris Cowie, not to Ric.
> 
> But as long as I have my wires crossed, why can't the boat be steered in reverse with the rudder blade up high enough to clear the shoal bottom?
> 
> If all else fails, use the small OB you carry for backup.
> 
> ss
> 
> 
> On 10/19/16 10:21 AM, Richard Stott wrote:
>> I love the idea of an inboard, but one thing it would prevent, is situations like this (attached image)
>> At one of my favorite waterfront restaurants, I get Dadventure into a slip where I can pick up my 90 year old father-in-law at dead low tide.
>> I  can back the boat into this very shallow slip with the rudder up, using the outboard to steer in reverse.
>> Ric
>> Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays, NY
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> this one as well.
>>> 
>>> And wanted to ask you, if you are so inclined, to ask our potential sail drive supplier a series of questions in what best be asked in a series of separate e-mails after each of their responses.
>>> 
>>> 1.    what would be our best OEM cost in light of our helping to promote their unit at our boat show displays.
>>> 
>>> 2.    what would be the savings off our OEM cost if we took our units without their costly folding props that normally come included with each unit.
>>> 
>>> 3.    can they lend us a /*rejected or non-w*//*orking */unit for our physical designing of molds to accommodate the exact dimensions for our particular Rhodesinstallations.  (if what they send to us has any value to them we can return it)
>>> 
>>> got some 3 or 4 show follow ups but not a one has so far come near placing an order.
>>> 
>>> ss
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/19/16 9:52 AM, Chris Cowie wrote:
>>>> Stan:
>>>> 
>>>> Please confirm you are getting my emails
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher P. Cowie
>>>> 
>>>> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
>>>> Suite 300
>>>> Washington, DC 20007
>>>> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ● 202.342.2691 fax ● 202.270.1470 mobile
>>>> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 9:47 AM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>; Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] (no subject)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/19/16 9:42 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote:
>>>>> for any Rhodies who may have an interest in GB's adventures:
>>>>> 
>>>>> First thanks to Richard, Robert, Phil, Mac and Chris for trying their
>>>>> very best to sell one of the 4 Rhodes at the Annapolis Show.  For the
>>>>> first time in the show's 47 years we did not get one deposit.  We have
>>>>> worked our way up to the best corner waterfront exhibit space in the
>>>>> show and everyone did a great job in setting up a beautiful display of
>>>>> beautiful boats. I heard one looker tell his friend, "This is the
>>>>> Cadillac of the 22' sailboats".  The economy simply has not returned
>>>>> to the Bill Clinton years when we could not build fast enough and had
>>>>> to return deposits.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The R 27 Kick Starter handouts generated practically no interest so
>>>>> that project is back in the box. The show investment wasn't a total
>>>>> loss, we sold 3 of Elton's 7 remaining folding boat chairs.  Recession
>>>>> ?  We hope not since we have been aiming to become this oldest,
>>>>> prestigious all Sailboat Show's only still standing exhibitor from day
>>>>> one, at the show's 50th anniversary.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But the Rhodes creative energies, backing up in the wings, got a boost
>>>>> that should make the 2017 lead Show model, very interesting.  Chris's
>>>>> spearheading got us talking to an electric propulsion company that has
>>>>> what we can incorporate with our ideas for a 10 hp inboard 10 K
>>>>> complete system.  As we take a closer look at the bottom line we see
>>>>> that the switch to electric auxiliary power has reached an
>>>>> indisputable financially viable way to go:  Replaces a 3K, or higher,
>>>>> investment in 9.9 HP, long shaft, 4 stroke, less efficient combustion
>>>>> technology relying on doctored, trouble making fuel mixes. Replaces 1
>>>>> K of motor bracket transom construction.  Replaces 500 to 1 K of
>>>>> awkward, trouble prone speed and direction controls with fool proof,
>>>>> comfortable, great, safe visibility when attempting to control an
>>>>> outboard under power.  And does it all at purring sound levels more
>>>>> related to sailing boats.  Add to all this free fuel with no oil,
>>>>> plugs and constant servicing costs, beginning with the prop's first
>>>>> revolution.  And add to all this side effects like greatly improved
>>>>> and balanced steering with the generated water flow now in front of
>>>>> the rudder blade and increased propeller thrust efficiency from being
>>>>> fully under the hull and all the good green side effects like cleaner
>>>>> air and cleaner water, and the financial accounting scale tilts in the
>>>>> electrons favor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the believer's we are offering our second Kick Starter:  A 5K Kick
>>>>> Start deposit earns a 10% installed ready to go package savings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> stan
>>>>> 
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>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
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