[Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler

[Chris Geankoplis]

I still have the old fashioned original Alum tube and bushings on Enosis.
Lost the forestay many years ago on another Rhodes, it failed at the
bottom.  On my current boat I found that there were a couple of broken
wires in the stay and replaced it with one size up.  Can't remember the
size.  Don't expect any problems.  The last stay lasted only 6 or 7 years
so this one should be good for more.
Chris Geankoplis
Waiting for my boat to come in :)

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
wrote:

> For what it is worth, when I was reviewing various furlers for my boat I
> came across several makers who strongly recommended attaching the stay at
> both ends with toggles rather than have the swag attached directly to the
> masthead and chainplate. Apparently the sideways stress and movement with
> the furler is magnified as the stay does not flex along its full length to
> the same degree and that can lead to the stay breaking. Apparently this
> happened to Gary Novotny, a member of this  list, within months of
> installing his new furling gear. Shaefer requires that toggles be installed
> with their system. Makes sense to me and would be a reasonable precaution
> to take.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Curtis Ruck via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: August 13, 2017 9:32 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lost My Headstay and Furler
>
> Not sure if the IMF Mast changes things, but with my CDI furler, its just
> wrapped around a standard 1/8" stainless forestay.  On my '79 it is just a
> professionally crimped fitting on the cable, and a 1/4" pin attaching the
> forestay to the masthead.
>
> Hearing your story though makes me want to replace my 1/4" pin in the
> masthead as it was fairly bent... 10-15 degree angle, though given the
> width of the pin, the bend may be intentional to keep it from sliding side
> to side.
>
> Curtis
> Havre de Grace, MD
> s/v Ruck It
>
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I went down to Groton today to do a boat project and go for a short
> > afternoon sail.  Winds were light and I was just puttering along in
> > Fisher’s Island Sound when there was a loud snap and the next thing I
> > knew my 175 genoa was floating in the water along side my boat.  The
> > bottom was still attached at the bow, but the top was no longer
> > attached to the top of the mast.
> >
> > This is a CDI furler, and an IMF mast.
> >
> > I managed to get the motor lowered and started, the main furled, and
> > then the genoa stashed along the port gunwale.  The very top of the
> > roller reefing assembly was still dragging in the water behind the
> > boat, but I was pretty sure that it would remain clear of the outboard
> prop.
> >
> > With all that done, I was able to motor calmly back to the marina and
> > pick up my mooring.  Before leaving the boat, I lashed the genoa more
> > securely, disconnected it at the bow, and shifted the whole package
> > forward a bit so that both ends were out of the water.  What I didn’t
> > think to do, for some reason, was to inspect the top of the furler
> > assembly or the top of the mast (using binoculars) to get a better
> > sense of what had failed and what might be required to put things right.
> >
> > I have disconnected the furler assembly from the mast several times in
> > the past, but now can’t really recall what the connection looked like.
> > In looking at some things I found online, it would seem that I should
> > expect to see some bits of rigging hardware (part of the actual
> > forestay) extending above the plastic top cap of the CDI assembly.
> > I’m pretty sure that at the moment there is nothing that extends
> > beyond the top cap, which if true would suggest that the forestay itself
> has failed.
> >
> > Of course the good news in all of this is that the mast has remained
> > more or less vertical through the entire process.
> >
> > I won’t be able to pull the boat out of the water, drop the mast, and
> > inspect things more closely until Monday.  In the mean time, I’m left
> > to wonder what hoops I’ll need to jump through to get my boat ready to
> > sail again.  Any insights or advice from the list would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > And, as always, a picture is worth 1000 words.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
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