[Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike

[Gary Novotny]

Jay,

I won't comment on the wisdom of enclosing the areas below the cockpit
seats, but I sealed the gaps between the hull and the cockpit cap top edges
with can foam from home depot. The foam I used did push out the cap a little
in a couple of spots so I concur minimally expanding foam is the correct
choice for this. 

Gary

Gary J Novotny
7309 S Indian River Drive
Fort Pierce, FL 34982
gjnovotny at comcast.net



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jay Curry
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 3:22 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing response to Mike

Mike: Thanks for the response.

My jib furler allows for easily changing sails on the water. I think the
135% jib is a perfect all purpose size for the Rhodes 22. But, in my case,
it must be furled too much for self tailing so I stick with the 100% and
have been very pleased with it. At most, I sacrifice 1/2 to 1 knot of speed
in light winds and in moderate winds, 6 knots is still easily achieved.

Your comments about the 175% jib reflect what I have experienced as well. It
is a great sail for racing and sailing with a second hand. But, it is
definitely not an all purpose sail.

Sealing the companion way door is easy and any consideration of sealing the
cockpit floor pan must include some method for self bailing. I think this is
possible and could make the boat safer in rough conditions. I do not plan to
be in those conditions, but experience has taught me that it can happen even
with the best preparation and planning. Being safe means preparing for what
can happen, not what you expect to happen.

This will not be the first time I have been considered silly. But,  I trust
my instincts and have proven naysayers wrong many times. One of the great
things about the Rhodes 22 is that its current design includes the results
of owner ideas and experimentation with changes. I love the boat. I am
simply exploring an idea and will do so until I am satisfied the necessary
questions and possibilities have been covered.

Lastly, I know it has already been done by another owner for the same
reasons I am considering it.


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From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 3:12 PM
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Waterproofing

> Jay,
>
> Many Rhodes owners have reduced the jib to a more manageable size.  
> That is a Rhodes 22 sailor's preference.  Several sizes and furling 
> systems are available including ones that permit changing the jib sail 
> while underway to suit the conditions.  You should choose a system 
> that provides comfort and safety, commensurate with the skill level of 
> the captain and crew.
>
> I sailed the 135% Gennie for over 30 years on my first R22, without 
> issue, around Long Island including the LI Sound and the Atlantic.  
> Both are bodies of water that can serve up demanding conditions 
> without warning and one must be careful and prepared.  No sail 
> configuration will make a Rhodes 22 into a blue water capable craft.  
> It is the responsibility of the captain to safeguard the crew and 
> respect the limitations of both craft and personnel.
>
> I now own a newer R22 with IMF and a 175% Genoa.  I find issues 
> pointing with the sail significantly furled and find it difficult to 
> come about when it is fully deployed.  I still find it a welcome 
> upgrade from my first Rhodes.
>
> I find the thought of walling up the under seat communication between 
> the cockpit and the cabin as a means of preventing water entry to the 
> cabin quite silly.  How will you prevent water from flowing into the 
> cabin under the companionway door?  It is relatively watertight from 
> rain but not from rising water in the cockpit.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
>
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