[Rhodes22-list] forestay length and furling gear

Tue Jul 18 10:12:24 EDT 2017

Hi Gary:
I am sorry if I have asked you this already but if so I can't find it in our
exchanges.

I am about to purchase furling gear and am stuck on whether to get a
flexible furler (CDI or Shaeffer Snapfurl) or the Alado. I prefer the Alado
except for the question of avoiding damage to the foil when raising or
lowering the mast. My mast raises from the front of the boat. With my old
CDI the links between the foil sections were very vulnerable to bending
while the mast was being raised or dropped. I found that the best way to
avoid damage was to tie a line to the lower end of the furling and drop it
overboard so that it would bend more gently as the mast raised. It worked
but was awkward and not fool proof. 

So the question is: What is your experience handling the Alado when raising
and dropping the mast? Have you ever damaged a foil or found it awkward to
handle?
Thanks,
 Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Gary Novotny
Sent: June 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] forestay length and furling gear

Graham,

My stay was originally apx 27' 10 and 3/8 in. ItThe new one was shortened to
allow for the two extra fittings at top and bottom.

The attached photo shows the setup at the top of the mast. The photo is
upside down. The black disk in the photo is the top of the Alado furler. 
The funky adjustable fitting was used to allow clearance for the extra new
fitting.

Hope this isn't too confusing. Call or text me if you need xtra info.

Gary

S/V Moon Shadow 1978 Rhodes 22 S/V Blackfish 1987 Corsair F27 Ankona Fl.

772-971-5753

On 6/26/2017 12:50 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Gary:
>
> That is very helpful. Can you tell me what the additional fitting was? 
> o you know what the length of the stay is?
> Thanks,
>   Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Gary Novotny
> Sent: June 26, 2017 8:43 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] forestay length and furling gear
>
> Graham,
>
> I have the Alado A0 on my Rhodes 22 and I'm happy with it. When I 
> bought my Rhodes it came with a furler that was missing most of it's 
> parts so I bought the Alado. It was very easy to install and has 
> mostly worked well. The only significant problem I had occurred about 
> 10 months ago when the forestay broke off right at the bottom swage 
> fitting while sailing. At the time, the forestay was only 2 years old 
> as I had replaced it at the same time as the furler. The forestay 
> break was not catastrophic to the boat as I quickly used a halyard as a
temporary stay and limped home.
>
> I discussed this with a rigger (not the one who created that stay). He 
> examined the stay and concluded that the problem was not improper 
> swagging which was my conclusion but due to the rigging not allowing 
> for the continuous port to starboard movement of the stay while 
> underway. He suggested making the replacement stay slightly shorter 
> and adding fittings that would allow for some side to side movement. I 
> also made the new stay bigger in diameter.
>
> I use my alado with a fairly large genoa which is bigger than a 160.
> This sail is too big actually, I'd prefer a 135, but this genoa came 
> with the boat. To convert to the Alado, I had to have a sail maker 
> modify the genoa to have the proper bolt tape for the alado foil.
>
> The only furler issue I have had is really my own doing. I installed a 
> furler line that is a little too large in diameter and sometimes when 
> unfurling the line binds up in the hub, which requires pulling it in 
> some and then re-releasing.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gary
>
> S/V Moon Shadow 1978 Rhodes 22
> S/V Blackfish 1987 Corsair F27
>
> Ankona Fl.
>
>
>
> On 6/25/2017 8:54 PM, Graham Stewart wrote:
>> I have concluded that my old CDI furler is toast and am in the 
>> process of deciding what to replace it with. I would like to hear any 
>> suggestions for replacement members of the list might have. I am 
>> currently inclined towards the Alado. Does anyone have experience 
>> with
> this system?
>> Also, I am trying to figure out what the length of the forestay should
be.
>> My current forestay has a 5" extender below the turnbuckle. Is that 
>> common on Rhodes or is my boat the exception? If I measure the 
>> forestay and include the extender the total length is 27' 9 1/4". 
>> That seems long to me as the specs for the boat stipulate 26.9'. 
>> Might my rig have been set up with the mast raked back?
>>
>> Does anyone know what proper length of the forestay? If it is 
>> actually shorter than what I have I might need to lengthen the aft 
>> stays. I plan to replace the forestay as mine has a number of nasty 
>> kinks in it. Meanwhile I really don't know what length I should specify.
>>
>> Help with this would be appreciated.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile. R22, 1976
>> Kingston Ontario Canada
>>
>>
>>
>>
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