From stan at rhodes22.com Thu Jun 1 05:30:42 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 05:30:42 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to the plant. stan On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: > Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing west > winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a reef the > mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. > See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. Anybody > have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions about > fabrication? > > Sigh, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20170531_172220.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3083852 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From krawitzmail-rhodes at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 08:47:36 2017 From: krawitzmail-rhodes at yahoo.com (UWILLC) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 05:47:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Replace or fix outboard motor bracket? In-Reply-To: <9645450E10CA4183A81E3A017E8C8C8C@Officepc> References: <1496155426089-53234.post@n5.nabble.com> <02e901d2d955$85759990$9060ccb0$@ca> <1496225997599-53236.post@n5.nabble.com> <9645450E10CA4183A81E3A017E8C8C8C@Officepc> Message-ID: <1496321256504-53241.post@n5.nabble.com> Brilliant. Where did you get those pulleys? Boat or hardware store? What is your line attached to on the engine? What does the line run through up top before going through the locking winch? The Tohatsu fuel-injected engine runs without a hitch, I suppose? -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Replace-or-fix-outboard-motor-bracket-tp53234p53241.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Thu Jun 1 08:57:37 2017 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 12:57:37 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: References:

, Message-ID: Way to go Stan Sent from my iPhone Charles > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to the plant. > > stan > > >> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing west >> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a reef the >> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. Anybody >> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions about >> fabrication? >> >> Sigh, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 3083852 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From tryc96 at ymail.com Thu Jun 1 11:46:20 2017 From: tryc96 at ymail.com (William Scarpitta) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine or similar outfit Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman wrote: Way to go Stan Sent from my iPhone Charles > On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > > sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails.? Shawn, send ALL the parts to the plant. > > stan > > >> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing west >> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a reef the >> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. Anybody >> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions about >> fabrication? >> >> Sigh, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 3083852 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From jac2 at wavecable.com Thu Jun 1 12:29:50 2017 From: jac2 at wavecable.com (Jay Curry) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 09:29:50 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Replace or fix outboard motor bracket? In-Reply-To: <1496321256504-53241.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1496155426089-53234.post@n5.nabble.com> <02e901d2d955$85759990$9060ccb0$@ca> <1496225997599-53236.post@n5.nabble.com> <9645450E10CA4183A81E3A017E8C8C8C@Officepc> <1496321256504-53241.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: The pulleys are from West Marine. They are stainless steel with bearings. They are expensive but worth it since they last with salt water use. Everything related to sailing seems to be 4 or 5 times more expensive than it should be. We once had horses and looked for a wall feeder for the stalls. The farm store had two versions at different locations in the store, one for horses and one for cows. The horse version was nearly twice the cost of the cow version, but the model and manufacturer for both were identical. Such was our welcome to sailing and not fishing. The pulleys hang from galvanized 1" pipe straps available anywhere. I could not find stainless hangers. The bolts are stainless. The line is 5/16 all purpose nylon available anywhere. The line is attached to the 1" bottom mounting bar on top of the engine mount formerly used for the winch strap. It is not mounted in any way to the engine. There is no guide for the pull end of the line, it just goes over the platform top of the engine slide channels to a jam cleat. Easy lock, easy release and secure under sail. Yes, the Tohatsu Sail Pro 4 stroke has been extremely reliable, it loses no oil, stays clean and is easy to winterize and service. It has a charging system for the batteries. An electric start version is available, but It usually starts on the first pull even on the first use in spring. It pushes the boat easily to hull speed at about half throttle. I will never even think about owning another 2 stroke. If you would like better or more detailed pictures, email me directly at jac2 at wavecable.com Jay Port Angeles, WA -------------------------------------------------- From: "UWILLC via Rhodes22-list" Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:47 AM To: Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Replace or fix outboard motor bracket? > Brilliant. > > Where did you get those pulleys? Boat or hardware store? > What is your line attached to on the engine? > What does the line run through up top before going through the locking > winch? > The Tohatsu fuel-injected engine runs without a hitch, I suppose? > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Replace-or-fix-outboard-motor-bracket-tp53234p53241.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From boendert at me.com Thu Jun 1 15:38:49 2017 From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2017 15:38:49 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. Cheers, Ted S/V AIRPOWER 1991/2013 R22 Jacksonville, FL > On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > > I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine or similar outfit > Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman wrote: Way to go Stan > > Sent from my iPhone > > Charles > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >> >> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to the plant. >> >> stan >> >> >>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing west >>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a reef the >>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. Anybody >>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions about >>> fabrication? >>> >>> Sigh, >>> Shawn >>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From lastmango68 at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 16:15:30 2017 From: lastmango68 at gmail.com (Lance Horne) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 16:15:30 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl > On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: > > I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. > > Cheers, > Ted > > S/V AIRPOWER > 1991/2013 R22 > Jacksonville, FL > > > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> >> >> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine or similar outfit >> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman wrote: Way to go Stan >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Charles >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>> >>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to the plant. >>> >>> stan >>> >>> >>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing west >>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a reef the >>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. Anybody >>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions about >>>> fabrication? >>>> >>>> Sigh, >>>> Shawn >>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Thu Jun 1 17:44:01 2017 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 14:44:01 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, and sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a beefier version! Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: > Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl > > On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: > > > > I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. > > > > Cheers, > > Ted > > > > S/V AIRPOWER > > 1991/2013 R22 > > Jacksonville, FL > > > > > > > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine > or similar outfit > >> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> > >> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman com> wrote: Way to go Stan > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> Charles > >> > >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: > >>> > >>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to > the plant. > >>> > >>> stan > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: > >>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing > west > >>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a > reef the > >>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. > >>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. > Anybody > >>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions > about > >>>> fabrication? > >>>> > >>>> Sigh, > >>>> Shawn > >>>> s/v Sweet Baboo > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > >>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg > >>>> Type: image/jpeg > >>>> Size: 3083852 bytes > >>>> Desc: not available > >>>> URL: attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >>>> > >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and > archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >>>> __________________________________________________ > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >>> > >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >>> __________________________________________________ > >> __________________________________________________ > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >> > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> __________________________________________________ > >> > >> __________________________________________________ > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > >> > >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Sun Jun 4 12:35:04 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 12:35:04 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] beginning of the end In-Reply-To: <1495887013339-53219.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <7d076953-7cd9-9549-edd9-d844d5119ed8@rhodes22.com> <1495887013339-53219.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4dd7e227-9e52-ddbc-3123-35fb8e6daaa0@rhodes22.com> thanks Jefferson, Interesting historical note: Grampian and Tanzer were here before us and each went bankrupt because they were not building our Rhodes. We bought the 9 acre industrial site the year after Tanzer folded and have been here for 30 years before our bodies, not the boat, started folding. See if you can find another Canadian builder to take over. Must be a good place to manufacture; Warren Buffet moved in across the street and also bought the property adjacent to our north property line. Too bad he is not into sailing. stan On 5/27/17 8:10 AM, Jefferson Lewis wrote: > Stan, > > This the worst possible news. Completely understandable - of course. Deepest > sympathies for your personal losses. I hope you have some inkling of the > incredible pleasure you have brought into so many lives, and the lives of > sailors to come. Our boats, your beautiful Rhodes 22, will outlive us all. > But today I feel like an orphan. > Tomorrow I'll start measuring the miles to Annapolis in October. You damn > well better be there. > > Jefferson > > s/v Patience > > > > ----- > Jefferson Lewis > SV Patience 1976 > Lake Memphremagog, Quebec > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/beginning-of-the-end-tp53164p53219.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Sun Jun 4 15:51:10 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 15:51:10 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] beginning of the end In-Reply-To: <1496154754870-53233.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <7d076953-7cd9-9549-edd9-d844d5119ed8@rhodes22.com> <1496154754870-53233.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Paul Thanks for your nice memorialized memorandum, in spite of your motor issues. Should GB live so long, there is an eloquent lift on our boards perfect for outboard e-propulsion. Meantime /I/ am moving to the GB advisory board. Your job is to find some good partnering for actually running GB. stan On 5/30/17 10:32 AM, UWILLC via Rhodes22-list wrote: > No more eloquent words were written than yours, Stan, about your baby that > was drawn up years ago when you presented yourself at Philip Rhodes office. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/beginning-of-the-end-tp53164p53233.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From jac2 at wavecable.com Sun Jun 4 17:10:15 2017 From: jac2 at wavecable.com (Skipper) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 14:10:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2012 Factory Refurbished Rhodes 22 for sale Message-ID: <1496610615686-53250.post@n5.nabble.com> Located in Sequim, WA 1992 Blue Hull, Factory Refurbished in 2012 Picked up at factory and trailered back to Washington Excellent like new Condition New bottom paint February 2017 2 Jib sails 100% and 175% Furling Mainsail Tohatsu 6 HP Sail Pro, new in 2012 Like new condition Mast winch, Dual Optima Batteries w/switch, Humminbird 858 DI Chart Plotter Seat Cushions, Porta Potty, 14 Gallon Water tank with 4" Clean out Well Maintained Used typically from May to October Winterized and covered each year Engine, mast, rudder and rigging kept indoors 2012 Dual Axle Triad Trailer Stainless Steel Disc Brakes Tires covered during non use Excellent condition Email at jac2 at wavecable.com if interested No Brokers or resellers please. -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/2012-Factory-Refurbished-Rhodes-22-for-sale-tp53250.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sun Jun 4 17:44:29 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2017 17:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Beginning of the End - Parts In-Reply-To: <02cf01d2d94b$963117a0$c29346e0$@ca> References: <1495825195605-53218.post@n5.nabble.com> <83D5A82B-643F-4A88-83FE-7A240A07E474@snet.net> <898AFAD2-4E83-488B-81AA-DAC8D9E091DD@gmail.com> <002e01d2d8cb$f3f92d80$dbeb8880$@com> <02cf01d2d94b$963117a0$c29346e0$@ca> Message-ID: <004b01d2dd7b$bf92a3a0$3eb7eae0$@com> Graham, The cost is relatively small and I have no problem footing the bill at this time. Besides, the accounting costs would probably be more than the cost of Amazon services. More importantly, as the number of years add up we should plan to have a way for the list to survive independent of an individual's health or abilities. If anyone is interested in learning some of the management skills required, I would be more than happy to share the responsibility. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:50 AM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beginning of the End - Parts I would be happy to contribute to the cost of the list. Is there a practical way to do this? Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael D. Weisner Sent: May 29, 2017 6:36 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Beginning of the End - Parts I agree that with the existence of the Rhodes 22 Community, we should be able to help each other to find replacement parts or fabricate them. I will continue to support the Rhodes22.org mailing list as long as possible to permit us to maintain communication. As of April 1, 2017, we completed the first year of Amazon Web Services' "free" hosting program. I think that the experience with AWS has been very positive. We experienced no outages and have virtually limitless storage. It doesn?t make sense to build a private web server to host this kind of list. For the past two months the costs have averaged $13-$14 per month. I think that it is a reasonable cost, considering the benefits. The time to monitor and keep the list relatively spam free is down to ten minutes per day, most of the time. If anyone is interested in getting involved, please let me know. I would not like the survival of the community communication network to depend on a single individual. Funny how easy it gets to think that way as the years go by. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:25 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Beginning of the End - Parts > On May 28, 2017, at 6:27 PM, Goodness wrote: > > I would sure like to know who is getting the inventory. A shame we cant order parts anymore. > I think the subject of parts for Rhodes 22?s is one that merits some discussion here on the list. With Stan?s imminent retirement, we Rhodies are apparently on the verge becoming owners of ?orphaned? boats. Nothing Stan has said to us gives me any reason to think that there?s anyone who will be ?getting the inventory? (however much may exist). My guess is that going forward, we are going to be on our own. This will mean finding alternates sources, or in some cases perhaps making our own parts. In some cases, the sources are already well known. You could buy sails from Stan, which many people have done to help support the company, but I?m pretty sure that people have also been buying Rhodes specific sails directly from Doyle. Similarly, we know that Triad makes the Rhodes 22 trailer. Since the design of the Rhodes specific features of the trailer came from Stan, Triad agreed to only sell Rhodes trailers to GB. If GB is no longer in the trailer business, hopefully Triad will be willing and able to sell Rhodes trailers to the general public. The IMF mast is probably a much more complicated situation. My recollection from my strolls through the list archives is that the mast is made by Dwyer, but the die for the extrusion is owned by Stan. If Dwyer happens to be in possession of the die, would they be willing and able to use it to create a new IMF mast? The odds don?t strike me as good. But I suppose if I found for some reason that I had no option but to downgrade my boat to a standard mast and mainsail, it wouldn?t be the end of the world. There are a few parts on the boat that it seems pretty clear are manufactured by General Boats. I have in mind things that slide on the IMF mast and boom. I haven?t looked at any of these things very closely, but my impression is that they are made from Starboard and aluminum with some off-the-shelf stainless steel bits and pieces. Starboard and aluminum are probably being used because they can be cut and shaped by woodworking tools. As it happens, I have some woodworking tools, and would probably be willing to attempt to fabricate some of these parts. That said, I think an outboard motor lift is well beyond my capabilities, so you should hope your?s doesn?t break. Hopefully, other people have thoughts on this subject. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ohecht at earthlink.net Mon Jun 5 05:45:28 2017 From: ohecht at earthlink.net (The Hechts) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 05:45:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> Does anyone have pictures of the various versions of the outhaul car? Mine is a metal piece with one very small pulley and another only slightly larger pulley. I wish I had taken pictures yesterday as I was replacing one of those worn pulleys. I noticed an empty threaded hole in top of the car where I assume a bolt of some type should be to anchor it in place? Mine just slides around in the track by hand but seems to only serve to guide the outhaul line through the end of the boom and I can't see how it would work if it slid in the track with the end of the sail. Or is it only locked in another position for "reefing" the IMF sail? I haven't needed to do that yet so maybe that's what I'm missing... Olivier s/v Fretless > On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: > > Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, and > sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a beefier > version! > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > >> On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: >> >> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: >>> >>> I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ted >>> >>> S/V AIRPOWER >>> 1991/2013 R22 >>> Jacksonville, FL >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine >> or similar outfit >>>> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman> com> wrote: Way to go Stan >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to >> the plant. >>>>> >>>>> stan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing >> west >>>>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a >> reef the >>>>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>>>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. >> Anybody >>>>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions >> about >>>>>> fabrication? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sigh, >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>> URL: > attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Mon Jun 5 08:10:34 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 08:10:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <006101d2ddf4$bd3fcf00$37bf6d00$@ebsmed.com> Olivier, Here are a few images that may help. The "Outhaul rigging" image is an older design and is probably what you have. The others were taken at the Annapolis show a few years back. They show the new system. "IMG_737" shows the new car and "IMG_734" illustrates the termination at the outside of the boom. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of The Hechts Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:45 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car Does anyone have pictures of the various versions of the outhaul car? Mine is a metal piece with one very small pulley and another only slightly larger pulley. I wish I had taken pictures yesterday as I was replacing one of those worn pulleys. I noticed an empty threaded hole in top of the car where I assume a bolt of some type should be to anchor it in place? Mine just slides around in the track by hand but seems to only serve to guide the outhaul line through the end of the boom and I can't see how it would work if it slid in the track with the end of the sail. Or is it only locked in another position for "reefing" the IMF sail? I haven't needed to do that yet so maybe that's what I'm missing... Olivier s/v Fretless > On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: > > Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, > and sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a > beefier version! > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > >> On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: >> >> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl >>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: >>> >>> I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ted >>> >>> S/V AIRPOWER >>> 1991/2013 R22 >>> Jacksonville, FL >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West >>>> Marine >> or similar outfit >>>> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL Sent from >>>> Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman> com> wrote: Way to go Stan >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Charles >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the >>>>> parts to >> the plant. >>>>> >>>>> stan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some >>>>>> amazing >> west >>>>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a >> reef the >>>>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>>>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. >> Anybody >>>>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have >>>>>> suggestions >> about >>>>>> fabrication? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sigh, >>>>>> Shawn >>>>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>>>>> scrubbed... >>>>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>> URL: > attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> <006101d2ddf4$bd3fcf00$37bf6d00$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <71e121d4-f8d4-c2fd-e9b4-d1c1de2f4548@rhodes22.com> Parts of the Rhodes are (were) always being improved. That's what I do. That's what keeps the Rhodes ahead of what is left of the competitive pack. The latest system allows for as big a sail draft as wanted while maintaining the sail and boom in the same plane so that the heretofore never used traveler system now works efficiently with the boom to provide better pointing ability. For continued clarity: The one person parts department remains doing its best for those who purchased their boats from GB or those who went through a private sale and elected to be part of the C of S community. stan On 6/5/17 8:10 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > Olivier, > > Here are a few images that may help. > > The "Outhaul rigging" image is an older design and is probably what you > have. The others were taken at the Annapolis show a few years back. They > show the new system. "IMG_737" shows the new car and "IMG_734" illustrates > the termination at the outside of the boom. > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of > The Hechts > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 5:45 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car > > Does anyone have pictures of the various versions of the outhaul car? Mine > is a metal piece with one very small pulley and another only slightly larger > pulley. > > I wish I had taken pictures yesterday as I was replacing one of those worn > pulleys. I noticed an empty threaded hole in top of the car where I assume a > bolt of some type should be to anchor it in place? Mine just slides around > in the track by hand but seems to only serve to guide the outhaul line > through the end of the boom and I can't see how it would work if it slid in > the track with the end of the sail. Or is it only locked in another > position for "reefing" the IMF sail? I haven't needed to do that yet so > maybe that's what I'm missing... > > Olivier > s/v Fretless > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> >> Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, >> and sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a >> beefier version! >> Cheers, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: >>> >>> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: >>>> >>>> I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> S/V AIRPOWER >>>> 1991/2013 R22 >>>> Jacksonville, FL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West >>>>> Marine >>> or similar outfit >>>>> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL Sent from >>>>> Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman>> com> wrote: Way to go Stan >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the >>>>>> parts to >>> the plant. >>>>>> stan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>>>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some >>>>>>> amazing >>> west >>>>>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a >>> reef the >>>>>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul > car. >>>>>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. >>> Anybody >>>>>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have >>>>>>> suggestions >>> about >>>>>>> fabrication? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sigh, >>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was >>>>>>> scrubbed... >>>>>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>>> URL: >> attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Outhaul rigging.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1723129 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0734.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2504583 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0737.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2153001 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Mon Jun 5 09:49:26 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:49:26 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <006d01d2ddf6$b0aee170$120ca450$@ebsmed.com> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3faba3f3-bf8f-1268-386c-13623b8e3b67@atlanticbb.net> The outhaul car was original equipment from when Fretless was recycled in 1998. I believe there was a thumbscrew in that threaded hole. I'm not sure that we used it consistently when reefing as the pressure of the lines would tend to keep it in place but I do seem to remember giving it a turn or two at times. It does slide in the track and when reefed can follow the clew of the sail forward on the boom. We didn't always do that but it did give a little more control of the leech of the sail. And I believe that's when we would use the thumbscrew. Unfortunately, I don't have any good pics of the assembly. Best, Mary Lou On 6/5/2017 5:45 AM, The Hechts wrote: > Does anyone have pictures of the various versions of the outhaul car? Mine is a metal piece with one very small pulley and another only slightly larger pulley. > > I wish I had taken pictures yesterday as I was replacing one of those worn pulleys. I noticed an empty threaded hole in top of the car where I assume a bolt of some type should be to anchor it in place? Mine just slides around in the track by hand but seems to only serve to guide the outhaul line through the end of the boom and I can't see how it would work if it slid in the track with the end of the sail. Or is it only locked in another position for "reefing" the IMF sail? I haven't needed to do that yet so maybe that's what I'm missing... > > Olivier > s/v Fretless > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> >> Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, and >> sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a beefier >> version! >> Cheers, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: >>> >>> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: >>>> >>>> I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> S/V AIRPOWER >>>> 1991/2013 R22 >>>> Jacksonville, FL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West Marine >>> or similar outfit >>>>> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL >>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman>> com> wrote: Way to go Stan >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the parts to >>> the plant. >>>>>> stan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>>>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some amazing >>> west >>>>>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get a >>> reef the >>>>>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>>>>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. >>> Anybody >>>>>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have suggestions >>> about >>>>>>> fabrication? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sigh, >>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>>> URL: >> attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Jun 5 09:56:58 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 13:56:58 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <3faba3f3-bf8f-1268-386c-13623b8e3b67@atlanticbb.net> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> <3faba3f3-bf8f-1268-386c-13623b8e3b67@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: Stan has improved the design of the car as he describes in his previous email. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 9:54 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car The outhaul car was original equipment from when Fretless was recycled in 1998. I believe there was a thumbscrew in that threaded hole. I'm not sure that we used it consistently when reefing as the pressure of the lines would tend to keep it in place but I do seem to remember giving it a turn or two at times. It does slide in the track and when reefed can follow the clew of the sail forward on the boom. We didn't always do that but it did give a little more control of the leech of the sail. And I believe that's when we would use the thumbscrew. Unfortunately, I don't have any good pics of the assembly. Best, Mary Lou On 6/5/2017 5:45 AM, The Hechts wrote: > Does anyone have pictures of the various versions of the outhaul car? Mine is a metal piece with one very small pulley and another only slightly larger pulley. > > I wish I had taken pictures yesterday as I was replacing one of those worn pulleys. I noticed an empty threaded hole in top of the car where I assume a bolt of some type should be to anchor it in place? Mine just slides around in the track by hand but seems to only serve to guide the outhaul line through the end of the boom and I can't see how it would work if it slid in the track with the end of the sail. Or is it only locked in another position for "reefing" the IMF sail? I haven't needed to do that yet so maybe that's what I'm missing... > > Olivier > s/v Fretless > >> On Jun 1, 2017, at 5:44 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >> >> Thanks everybody. I am cobbling something together so I can sail, >> and sending the broken components to Stan. Didn't know there was a >> beefier version! >> Cheers, >> Shawn >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >>> On Jun 1, 2017 1:15 PM, "Lance Horne" wrote: >>> >>> Same here. Makes life much easier. LastMango/JaxFl >>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 3:38 PM, Theodore Boender wrote: >>>> >>>> I replaced mine with Stan's latest beefier version a few months ago. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ted >>>> >>>> S/V AIRPOWER >>>> 1991/2013 R22 >>>> Jacksonville, FL >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Scarpitta via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I replaced mine with a generic sail slug, available at any West >>>>> Marine >>> or similar outfit >>>>> Capt Billy ScarpittaSandpaper, 1996 R22Fort Myers FL Sent from >>>>> Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Charles Nieman>> com> wrote: Way to go Stan >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2017, at 4:30 AM, Stan Spitzer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> sounds like the List bounces GB e-mails. Shawn, send ALL the >>>>>> parts to >>> the plant. >>>>>> stan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/31/17 11:48 PM, Shawn Boles wrote: >>>>>>> Well we were out sailing with friends and encountered some >>>>>>> amazing >>> west >>>>>>> winds on the lake. In conjunction with lowering the Boom to get >>>>>>> a >>> reef the >>>>>>> mainsheet released and the boom swung out and snapped the outhaul car. >>>>>>> See pic. This happened, of course, after GB parts dept. has closed. >>> Anybody >>>>>>> have an extra, know the commercial equivalent, or have >>>>>>> suggestions >>> about >>>>>>> fabrication? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sigh, >>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>> s/v Sweet Baboo >>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment >>>>>>> was scrubbed... >>>>>>> Name: 20170531_172220.jpg >>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>>>> Size: 3083852 bytes >>>>>>> Desc: not available >>>>>>> URL: >> attachments/20170531/190b6c93/attachment.jpg> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ >>> mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Mon Jun 5 11:15:49 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 11:15:49 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Broken outhaul car In-Reply-To: <636e089d-d5ef-dd1c-d906-43dc623682fc@rhodes22.com> References:

<1606586389.320325.1496331980065@mail.yahoo.com> <584D20C2-8A47-4088-9AF2-C79ED5E1295B@gmail.com> <5D354745-7798-4630-9149-6FD0A10B92B3@earthlink.net> <006101d2ddf4$bd3fcf00$37bf6d00$@ebsmed.com> <006d01d2ddf6$b0aee170$120ca450$@ebsmed.com> <636e089d-d5ef-dd1c-d906-43dc623682fc@rhodes22.com> <003801d2de0e$9dd1da90$d9758fb0$@com> <0bdd28d1-8857-fac8-feb f-22136636d540@rhodes22.com> <012201d2dec7$5fb4d370$1f1e7a50$@ebsmed.com> <8635a9ae-e958-77a6-b626-7959e6f343e7@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: <015f01d2df31$964ff620$c2efe260$@ebsmed.com> Hi Stan, I have to take a good look at what I have on the boom. The weather is supposed to be good this weekend and I hope to be able to take a few pictures of what I have. My guess is that it is whatever was stock in 1991, starting with the older metal slider. I also have the older traveler design and I wanted to upgrade to the continuous loop design as well. I'll let you know when I have been onboard. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 3:46 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] s outhaul car Hi Mike, The brain is slowing down a bit: "Will I need additional parts for the outer end or the boom" and then I am thinking you are showing me a picture of what you currently have at the end of your boom. But then I realize that you are using a photo of our boat at the boat show so am wondering what do */you/* have at the end of your current boom. If it is like the show boat boom you are good to go. If you have some earlier, not-thru-the boom cleating system and it has been working for you, you can stay with that. If you do not have what is in the show photo and like the idea of a continuous locking system as you deploy the IMF main, then you can install an outhaul line terminal system that comes with a turning block (atop the boom), a fitted platform for the underside of the boom and a locking cam cleat mounted on this vertical fitted platform. $175, or you can come and help me save this business and get everything for nothing and maybe even get rich if we can get a Bernie Sanders in the next time; or e-propulsion or the R 27 take off. stan On 6/6/17 9:18 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > Stan, > > I would very much like to upgrade to the new design. > > Does $225 include the complete kit of parts to convert from the metal > car to the newly redesigned version? Will I need additional parts for > the outer end of the boom (see attached photo)? > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of Stan Spitzer > Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 2:50 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] s outhaul car > > > > With the run on Rhodes IMF outhaul cars here's the scoop: > > They are custom hand carved $225 plus $35 S&H > > They are returnable for those who do not know the model they currently > have and it turns out that the ordered one is the same as the car you > already have. To review, the latest model is a bit "stouter" for > braver Rhodies plus has the main sail directly fixed to the front of > the car (no variably spacing line attachment as is seen on the higher > cost, less efficient in-mast-furling systems on larger boats). > > S&H is FREE if you return your old "outhaul car". This waiver of S&H is > not applicable to metal outhaul cars. (Metal cars were not made by GB.) > > Orders for 10 or more earn a piece of General Boats. > > Payment can be made by "check in the mail" notice or by e-mailing a > phone number we can call to take credit card information. > > the mailing address remains: > general boats > 114 midway drive > edenton nc 27932 > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > scrubbed... > Name: IMG_0734.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2504583 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > 7af1/attachment.jpe> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Tue Jun 6 22:09:33 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 22:09:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] da list still grows Message-ID: <016501d2df33$1cd31f50$56795df0$@ebsmed.com> To all Rhodies, I find it interesting that, after all these years, "da list" continues to attract new individuals. We have been experiencing 1 to 2 new subscribers per day. Congrats to all of you who are responsible for the creation of this wonderful forum so many years ago. Rummy would be proud! Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY From stan at rhodes22.com Wed Jun 7 07:03:08 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 07:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] da list still grows In-Reply-To: <016501d2df33$1cd31f50$56795df0$@ebsmed.com> References: <016501d2df33$1cd31f50$56795df0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <2c684e20-ee00-8c79-a82a-f5cb85eacfa5@rhodes22.com> gulp. News like this makes me feel bad, deserting you all after getting you into this. But you should live so long and find yourself down to only one right hand left. I know, while there is life, there is hope (wish I said that) and there are a few white knights out there who may swoop down to save the day. If not, the medical breakthrough that compounding boat building experience with organic eggs consumption leads to better health, may have to be the legacy. If any realistic changes in the game plan materializes, the Rhodies wing of the clan will be the first to know. Now, if only politics were allowed back on the List I would keep GB alive, if only for my left hand list to have someone to talk to. stan On 6/6/17 10:09 PM, Michael Weisner wrote: > To all Rhodies, > > I find it interesting that, after all these years, "da list" continues to > attract new individuals. We have been experiencing 1 to 2 new subscribers > per day. > > Congrats to all of you who are responsible for the creation of this > wonderful forum so many years ago. > Rummy would be proud! > > Mike > > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > > Nissequogue River, NY > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From tadelikat at gmail.com Wed Jun 7 09:32:52 2017 From: tadelikat at gmail.com (Thomas Delikat) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 09:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] da list still grows In-Reply-To: References: <016501d2df33$1cd31f50$56795df0$@ebsmed.com> <2c684e20-ee00-8c79-a82a-f5cb85eacfa5@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: This is what he replied to on the list this morning. (Read from bottom up). On Jun 7, 2017 7:03 AM, "Stan Spitzer" wrote: gulp. News like this makes me feel bad, deserting you all after getting you into this. But you should live so long and find yourself down to only one right hand left. I know, while there is life, there is hope (wish I said that) and there are a few white knights out there who may swoop down to save the day. If not, the medical breakthrough that compounding boat building experience with organic eggs consumption leads to better health, may have to be the legacy. If any realistic changes in the game plan materializes, the Rhodies wing of the clan will be the first to know. Now, if only politics were allowed back on the List I would keep GB alive, if only for my left hand list to have someone to talk to. stan On 6/6/17 10:09 PM, Michael Weisner wrote: > To all Rhodies, > > I find it interesting that, after all these years, "da list" continues to > attract new individuals. We have been experiencing 1 to 2 new subscribers > per day. > > Congrats to all of you who are responsible for the creation of this > wonderful forum so many years ago. > Rummy would be proud! > > Mike > > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > > Nissequogue River, NY > > > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma > n/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailma n/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From trimsails at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:15:20 2017 From: trimsails at gmail.com (trimsails .) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:15:20 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] One of Stan's early boats needs rescue Message-ID: For $100 bucks with motor and trailer. 1961 Picnic - it's a Sailboat, Motorboat (actually had a steering wheel option), Fishing boat and Cruiser. I would love to get and restore, but my boat count has exceeded my admiral's limit (don't ask, lots). https://longisland.craigslist.org/boa/6167038897.html Jerry in NC From trimsails at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 09:29:07 2017 From: trimsails at gmail.com (trimsails .) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:29:07 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Picnic Brochure Message-ID: Attached is the Picnic brochure written by Stan some 57 years ago. Great stuff! Jerry in NC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: picnicbrochure.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 6333640 bytes Desc: not available URL: From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Sat Jun 10 18:05:59 2017 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 22:05:59 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show Message-ID: There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). Sent from my iPhone Charles Nieman s/v Daydream 98 R 22 From lastmango68 at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 18:44:03 2017 From: lastmango68 at gmail.com (Lance Horne) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 18:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> Very good, that is the reading for Trinity Sunday! > On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: > > There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! > > Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). > > Sent from my iPhone > > Charles Nieman > > s/v Daydream > 98 R 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 20:54:51 2017 From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 20:54:51 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Picnic Brochure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <23703AD4-7348-4459-83CC-4B112693192A@gmail.com> What an amazing boat! I wish i had one of those too!!! Bob (palatka) > On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:29 AM, trimsails . wrote: > > Attached is the Picnic brochure written by Stan some 57 years ago. Great > stuff! > > Jerry in NC > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: picnicbrochure.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 6333640 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Sat Jun 10 21:06:43 2017 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:06:43 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show In-Reply-To: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> References: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7FFB2EC1-9FDE-4A8D-A3C3-0A1D53B6DA51@sunnybeeches.com> Am I the only one confused by this response? Is this some kind of spam? Anyway, I?m with Charles, some degree of coordination seems like a good idea. > On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lance Horne wrote: > > Very good, that is the reading for Trinity Sunday! >> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: >> >> There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! >> >> Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Charles Nieman >> >> s/v Daydream >> 98 R 22 >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From lastmango68 at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 21:10:34 2017 From: lastmango68 at gmail.com (Lance Horne) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:10:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show In-Reply-To: <7FFB2EC1-9FDE-4A8D-A3C3-0A1D53B6DA51@sunnybeeches.com> References: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> <7FFB2EC1-9FDE-4A8D-A3C3-0A1D53B6DA51@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: <7891F0B9-F08E-4AEE-A604-BA3E4F80C3C2@gmail.com> No no spam. Obviously not familiar with the term, ?Until the end of time" and its use on June 11 church services. > On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Am I the only one confused by this response? Is this some kind of spam? > > Anyway, I?m with Charles, some degree of coordination seems like a good idea. > > >> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lance Horne wrote: >> >> Very good, that is the reading for Trinity Sunday! >>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: >>> >>> There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! >>> >>> Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> Charles Nieman >>> >>> s/v Daydream >>> 98 R 22 >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Sat Jun 10 21:13:15 2017 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:13:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show In-Reply-To: <7891F0B9-F08E-4AEE-A604-BA3E4F80C3C2@gmail.com> References: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> <7FFB2EC1-9FDE-4A8D-A3C3-0A1D53B6DA51@sunnybeeches.com> <7891F0B9-F08E-4AEE-A604-BA3E4F80C3C2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <566CEF40-7FAE-4B56-8667-90EA92823DA5@sunnybeeches.com> Still confused. > On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Lance Horne wrote: > > No no spam. Obviously not familiar with the term, ?Until the end of time" and its use on June 11 church services. >> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >> >> Am I the only one confused by this response? Is this some kind of spam? >> >> Anyway, I?m with Charles, some degree of coordination seems like a good idea. >> >> >>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lance Horne wrote: >>> >>> Very good, that is the reading for Trinity Sunday! >>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: >>>> >>>> There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! >>>> >>>> Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Charles Nieman >>>> >>>> s/v Daydream >>>> 98 R 22 >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From lastmango68 at gmail.com Sat Jun 10 21:26:52 2017 From: lastmango68 at gmail.com (Lance Horne) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Boat Show In-Reply-To: <566CEF40-7FAE-4B56-8667-90EA92823DA5@sunnybeeches.com> References: <93E84429-A589-4B64-90FA-24D858051637@gmail.com> <7FFB2EC1-9FDE-4A8D-A3C3-0A1D53B6DA51@sunnybeeches.com> <7891F0B9-F08E-4AEE-A604-BA3E4F80C3C2@gmail.com> <566CEF40-7FAE-4B56-8667-90EA92823DA5@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: <4529980D-1C4C-45F7-A24D-03B518ECE373@gmail.com> Matt 28:16-20 > On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:13 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Still confused. > >> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:10 PM, Lance Horne wrote: >> >> No no spam. Obviously not familiar with the term, ?Until the end of time" and its use on June 11 church services. >>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 9:06 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: >>> >>> Am I the only one confused by this response? Is this some kind of spam? >>> >>> Anyway, I?m with Charles, some degree of coordination seems like a good idea. >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Lance Horne wrote: >>>> >>>> Very good, that is the reading for Trinity Sunday! >>>>> On Jun 10, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There has been much talk here from many regarding showing up at the boat show in special support of the Rhodes 22 family (as I read it, in light of what seems as Stan's suggestion this MIGHT be his last boat show.) Personally I expect Stan and GB to last until the end of time. Stan is just that ornery!! >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, which day might most attempt to attend (coming from Texas, this requires greater planning and I must start). >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> Charles Nieman >>>>> >>>>> s/v Daydream >>>>> 98 R 22 >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From johnfrancistaaffe at outlook.com Sat Jun 10 23:05:56 2017 From: johnfrancistaaffe at outlook.com (John Taaffe) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 03:05:56 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ Message-ID: Hello list members..... I purchased my refurbished Rhodes from Stan in 2007 and have enjoyed sailing her in Tuckerton bay and surrounding areas for 10 seasons We are purchasing a 30+ footer and sadly have to let go of our Rhodes Craigslist add below if anyone is interested John Taaffe. Tuckerton NJ. 908-239-5988 https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/6143676056.html from my iPhone From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sat Jun 10 23:22:22 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:22:22 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00fb01d2e261$f325c6d0$d9715470$@ebsmed.com> OK you list lurkers - this one looks very nice. $8500! What are you waiting for? Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Taaffe Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:06 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ Hello list members..... I purchased my refurbished Rhodes from Stan in 2007 and have enjoyed sailing her in Tuckerton bay and surrounding areas for 10 seasons We are purchasing a 30+ footer and sadly have to let go of our Rhodes Craigslist add below if anyone is interested John Taaffe. Tuckerton NJ. 908-239-5988 https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/6143676056.html from my iPhone __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Sun Jun 11 09:42:39 2017 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:39 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned Message-ID: I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak and water was gushing in. Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. Lesson learned! ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Before the CB saga.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 203551 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CB damage.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 216470 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sun Jun 11 09:59:41 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <014201d2e2ba$f9fc1f50$edf45df0$@ebsmed.com> Not a pretty sight! I feel your pain. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Beytagh Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:43 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak and water was gushing in. Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. Lesson learned! ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Before the CB saga.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 203551 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CB damage.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 216470 bytes Desc: not available URL: __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From stan at rhodes22.com Sun Jun 11 10:15:09 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 10:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: <014201d2e2ba$f9fc1f50$edf45df0$@ebsmed.com> References: <014201d2e2ba$f9fc1f50$edf45df0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: <9b640d6a-7319-ab56-fc47-b2d86955f93d@rhodes22.com> in the spirit of transparency it should at least be noted that is not the specifically engineered Rhodes trailer. ss On 6/11/17 9:59 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > Not a pretty sight! I feel your pain. > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of > Richard Beytagh > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:43 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned > > I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes for an > extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the family. I slept on > the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in Asheville on Monday I gave > her a good clean, popped up the mast and launched her at our rinky-dink, but > adequate ramp. > > Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was still > firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I didn't check > this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down and got caught when > I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until I got on the boat a few > minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. > Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak and > water was gushing in. > > Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP before > she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled her out with > it in the down position....this was not good! It drove the CB up through the > floor boards and shattered the CB cap. > > So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in peak > sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. > Lesson learned! > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Before the CB saga.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 203551 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > ttachment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: CB damage.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 216470 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > ttachment-0001.jpg> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sun Jun 11 11:26:53 2017 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael Weisner) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 11:26:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: <9b640d6a-7319-ab56-fc47-b2d86955f93d@rhodes22.com> References: <014201d2e2ba$f9fc1f50$edf45df0$@ebsmed.com> <9b640d6a-7319-ab56-fc47-b2d86955f93d@rhodes22.com> Message-ID: <014e01d2e2c7$28b97de0$7a2c79a0$@ebsmed.com> Stan, I wasn't sure if it was. It looked a bit different. The center board did not appear to rest on the roller. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stan Spitzer Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:15 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned in the spirit of transparency it should at least be noted that is not the specifically engineered Rhodes trailer. ss On 6/11/17 9:59 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > Not a pretty sight! I feel your pain. > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > Behalf Of Richard Beytagh > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:43 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned > > I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes > for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the > family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in > Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and > launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. > > Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was > still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I > didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down > and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until > I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. > Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak > and water was gushing in. > > Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP > before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled > her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove > the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. > > So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in > peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. > Lesson learned! > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > Richard Beytagh > Phone: 828 337 0180 > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > scrubbed... > Name: Before the CB saga.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 203551 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > 8b39/a > ttachment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > scrubbed... > Name: CB damage.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 216470 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > 8b39/a > ttachment-0001.jpg> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Sun Jun 11 15:19:33 2017 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 15:19:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: <014e01d2e2c7$28b97de0$7a2c79a0$@ebsmed.com> References: <014201d2e2ba$f9fc1f50$edf45df0$@ebsmed.com> <9b640d6a-7319-ab56-fc47-b2d86955f93d@rhodes22.com> <014e01d2e2c7$28b97de0$7a2c79a0$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: Normally it does, but when i pulled it out the second time I could not raise it and in my hurry to get it out (it was filling up fast) I floated it onto the trailer with the board down hopping the roller would push it up. Unfortunately it slipped down between the a cross member and the axle so when the boat came our it sat on the CB which pushed up inside the CB casing. I hope the casing cover is the only damage and the pivot and housing is unharmed. BTW its the old shape CB ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > Stan, > > I wasn't sure if it was. It looked a bit different. The center board did > not appear to rest on the roller. > > Mike > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf > Of > Stan Spitzer > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:15 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned > > > in the spirit of transparency it should at least be noted that is not the > specifically engineered Rhodes trailer. > > ss > > On 6/11/17 9:59 AM, Michael Weisner wrote: > > Not a pretty sight! I feel your pain. > > > > Mike > > s/v Wind Lass ('91) > > Nissequogue River, NY > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On > > Behalf Of Richard Beytagh > > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:43 AM > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned > > > > I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes > > for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the > > family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in > > Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and > > launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. > > > > Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was > > still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I > > didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down > > and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until > > I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water > covering > the floor-boards. > > Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak > > and water was gushing in. > > > > Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP > > before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled > > her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove > > the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. > > > > So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in > > peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing > buddies. > > Lesson learned! > > > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > > > Richard Beytagh > > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > > scrubbed... > > Name: Before the CB saga.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 203551 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: > > > 8b39/a > > ttachment.jpg> > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > > scrubbed... > > Name: CB damage.jpg > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 216470 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: > > > 8b39/a > > ttachment-0001.jpg> > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From jjcampjr at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 18:57:47 2017 From: jjcampjr at yahoo.com (Joe Camp) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 22:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1141502900.7495369.1497221867293@mail.yahoo.com> Richard: ???? this is my own quintessential been there, done that moment.? While working on my boat two off seasons ago, I (too) forgot to cleat the pennant line for the center board.? My boat would not come off the trailer.? When we pulled it out, the hull became wedged on the trailer at what would be a twenty degree hell (on the water).? The "not on the water" part really sucked. I don't know if having the? special Spitzer R-22 trailer was a factor, but we got it back in the water with my Johnny on the spot (let's call him co-captain) buddy Tim aboard. ???? Tim manned the CB pennant while I returned boat and trailer to the water.? It barely floated off the bunks; Tim got the CB up.? We hauled, checked for damage (none seen) and launched again w/o trouble.? We were the morning's entertainment for a squad of volunteer firefighters practicing their drafting skills on a space near the ramp. Yeah, they laughed, but it was deserved ridicule, and we took it like men. ???? The real lesson learned (for me and you) is that everybody does something classically stupid every so often. Hopefully, we are not stupid too regularly.? Keep your top knot tight and your cabin dry! Joe Camp s/v John Dawson Bohemia River, MD From: Richard Beytagh To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 9:42 AM Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak and water was gushing in. Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. Lesson learned! ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Before the CB saga.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 203551 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CB damage.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 216470 bytes Desc: not available URL: __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Sun Jun 11 21:46:14 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 21:46:14 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> When I hear of people having their centre board damaging the housing cap I wonder whether the compression tubes above the pivot pin are missing. These tubes fit in the slots above the pivot pin and serve to absorb the shock of a grounding. Mine were originally just pieces of garden hose but I am using flexible plumbing pieces now. Either should work fine. They should prevent the centreboard from crashing into the cap. Graham Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Richard Beytagh Sent: June 11, 2017 9:43 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lesson to be learned I recently hauled my R22 "Waif" to one of our nearby mountain lakes for an extended weekend of sailing, fishing and camping with the family. I slept on the boat of course. Returning to my home lake in Asheville on Monday I gave her a good clean, popped up the mast and launched her at our rinky-dink, but adequate ramp. Here's where things went wrong....assuming that the center-board was still firmly cleated-up from when I hauled her out a few hours ago, I didn't check this before launching and the CB obviously dropped down and got caught when I retrieved the trailer. I did not notice it until I got on the boat a few minutes later and found 6 inches of water covering the floor-boards. Catching the CB on the launch had caused the CB cap to spring a leak and water was gushing in. Trying not to panic I knew I had to get her her out of the water ASAP before she became too waterlogged. The CB was now jammed so I hauled her out with it in the down position....this was not good! It drove the CB up through the floor boards and shattered the CB cap. So my act of omission has resulted in a few weeks work on the boat (in peak sailing time) and a red face when explaining this to my sailing buddies. Lesson learned! ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Before the CB saga.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 203551 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: CB damage.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 216470 bytes Desc: not available URL: __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Sun Jun 11 23:16:22 2017 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:16:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Country Rhodes. Message-ID: <1497237382689-53292.post@n5.nabble.com> We were driving down from Cleveland and decided to picnic in a park since we had lots of good food from the Westside Market. By random luck I found myself looking at Jerry's /Country Rhodes,/ proudly sporting not only green sail sun shields, but matching tiller cover, outboard cover and canvas shades on his front cockpit windows. Very snazzy indeed. Jerry introduced me to the Rhodes when I first joined the list, before my pilgrimage to GB. At that time I met him driving to Indiana via a different route and three years later I was slow to recognize the park until I saw a Rhodes from the Redneck Yot Club lording over the mere pontoons, I didn't tell /Lark/ when I got back, but I did give her a good ride. Or she gave me one. The Swallow eggs were no doubt slightly scambled, but still there. Alex ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Country-Rhodes-tp53292.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From rlowe at vt.edu Mon Jun 12 12:06:20 2017 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:06:20 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ In-Reply-To: <00fb01d2e261$f325c6d0$d9715470$@ebsmed.com> References: <00fb01d2e261$f325c6d0$d9715470$@ebsmed.com> Message-ID: I've got to agree with Mike on this one. I waited three years to find a boat like this at this kind of a price. I'd buy it myself except I've already got one! - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Michael Weisner Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:22 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ OK you list lurkers - this one looks very nice. $8500! What are you waiting for? Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Taaffe Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:06 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 looking for new captain. Tuckerton NJ Hello list members..... I purchased my refurbished Rhodes from Stan in 2007 and have enjoyed sailing her in Tuckerton bay and surrounding areas for 10 seasons We are purchasing a 30+ footer and sadly have to let go of our Rhodes Craigslist add below if anyone is interested John Taaffe. Tuckerton NJ. 908-239-5988 https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/6143676056.html from my iPhone __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From bridges.brooks at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 14:57:25 2017 From: bridges.brooks at gmail.com (thebooker) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:57:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor In-Reply-To: <83D5A82B-643F-4A88-83FE-7A240A07E474@snet.net> References: <1495825195605-53218.post@n5.nabble.com> <83D5A82B-643F-4A88-83FE-7A240A07E474@snet.net> Message-ID: <1497380245244-53294.post@n5.nabble.com> I put a torqeedo 3hp on my boat. Very pleased. Pushes boat at 3 knots into wind and a bit of chop. Figure I will most need it if wind dies and at low speeds can go a lot of miles. No winterizing, no worrying about finding Ethanol free gas, battery is light wt. Brooks ----- Brooks Bridges 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" Cambridge, MD -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Electric-Motor-tp53218p53294.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Tue Jun 13 15:05:15 2017 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:05:15 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Electric Motor In-Reply-To: <1497380245244-53294.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1495825195605-53218.post@n5.nabble.com> <83D5A82B-643F-4A88-83FE-7A240A07E474@snet.net> <1497380245244-53294.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I have had one for 6 years and it works like a charm. Be advised that you can exhaust the battery quickly if you run at full speed period. Slow and steady is the way. Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo (recycled 86) On Jun 13, 2017 11:57 AM, "thebooker" wrote: > I put a torqeedo 3hp on my boat. Very pleased. Pushes boat at 3 knots into > wind and a bit of chop. Figure I will most need it if wind dies and at low > speeds can go a lot of miles. > > No winterizing, no worrying about finding Ethanol free gas, battery is > light > wt. > > Brooks > > > > > ----- > Brooks Bridges > 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" > Cambridge, MD > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Electric-Motor-tp53218p53294.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Thu Jun 15 22:20:07 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 22:20:07 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] that wrench In-Reply-To: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> References: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> Message-ID: <006a01d2e647$12e91f60$38bb5e20$@ca> Stan: While fishing wires between the cockpit and cabin liner the wires got snagged on something. After struggling with it for some time I managed to fish out a wrench that had been there, presumably, since the boat was being built in 1976. It is a tad rusty after 41 years but is otherwise serviceable. I know how frustrating it is to lose tools when you had it in your hand a few minutes ago. So Stan, if you are still looking for that wrench you can relax now and I will gladly send it to you if you need it to complete your set. Otherwise I will keep it as a souvenir from when the boat was built. Graham Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2017-06-15 22.07.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1069161 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bridges.brooks at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 11:21:22 2017 From: bridges.brooks at gmail.com (thebooker) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:21:22 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ST 1000 tiller pilot mounting question Message-ID: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi all, I've installed the tiller pilot in the same location as other installations I've seen on the list - a few inches inboard from the port stern cleat - about as far inboard as I could go. I've got the 6" extension which I thought was the max. Absolutely love it! You can't imagine the freedom it gives a single hander. I'm calling mine "Sally" and she steers far more consistently than I do. And she doesn't complain about sitting out in the sun while I'm in shade under bimini. But, mounting really needs to be 3" or 4" more inboard to move tiller equally in both directions. Right now it occasionally runs out of travel attempting to turn boat to stbd. As at least two others seem to have mounted theirs as I have, I'm puzzled as to why no one has said they had this problem. I have the adapter which will allow mounting on a near vertical surface but before I do that, wanted to check in with other users. Brooks Bridges "Changes" ----- Brooks Bridges 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" Cambridge, MD -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ST-1000-tiller-pilot-mounting-question-tp53298.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From peter at sunnybeeches.com Fri Jun 16 12:05:39 2017 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 12:05:39 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ST 1000 tiller pilot mounting question In-Reply-To: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <6F780CD3-6BDE-4448-8E0B-2F0127F2BE61@sunnybeeches.com> 6? may be the longest extension piece available, but you can combine extensions to get more reach. I believe I used a 5? and a 3? for a total of 8? of extension. I can check the next time I?m on the boat, but I?m not sure when that will be. I?m so dependent on my tiller pilot that I have a second as a spare. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Jun 16, 2017, at 11:21 AM, thebooker wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've installed the tiller pilot in the same location as other installations > I've seen on the list - a few inches inboard from the port stern cleat - > about as far inboard as I could go. > > I've got the 6" extension which I thought was the max. > > Absolutely love it! You can't imagine the freedom it gives a single hander. > I'm calling mine "Sally" and she steers far more consistently than I do. And > she doesn't complain about sitting out in the sun while I'm in shade under > bimini. > > But, mounting really needs to be 3" or 4" more inboard to move tiller > equally in both directions. Right now it occasionally runs out of travel > attempting to turn boat to stbd. > > As at least two others seem to have mounted theirs as I have, I'm puzzled > as to why no one has said they had this problem. > > I have the adapter which will allow mounting on a near vertical surface but > before I do that, wanted to check in with other users. > > Brooks Bridges > "Changes" > > > > ----- > Brooks Bridges > 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" > Cambridge, MD > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ST-1000-tiller-pilot-mounting-question-tp53298.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From rlowe at vt.edu Fri Jun 16 13:33:52 2017 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:33:52 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: that wrench In-Reply-To: <006a01d2e647$12e91f60$38bb5e20$@ca> References: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> <006a01d2e647$12e91f60$38bb5e20$@ca> Message-ID: Graham, Great story, thanks for sharing. I, too, need to fish some wires above the cabin liner. How are you going about this? thanks - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:20 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: [Rhodes22-list] that wrench Stan: While fishing wires between the cockpit and cabin liner the wires got snagged on something. After struggling with it for some time I managed to fish out a wrench that had been there, presumably, since the boat was being built in 1976. It is a tad rusty after 41 years but is otherwise serviceable. I know how frustrating it is to lose tools when you had it in your hand a few minutes ago. So Stan, if you are still looking for that wrench you can relax now and I will gladly send it to you if you need it to complete your set. Otherwise I will keep it as a souvenir from when the boat was built. Graham Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2017-06-15 22.07.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1069161 bytes Desc: not available URL: __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Fri Jun 16 14:07:58 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 14:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ST 1000 tiller pilot mounting question In-Reply-To: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Brooks, You need to measure exactly two dimensions before mounting. The neutral position with whatever arm extensions that put the mount on the gunwale where you want it and the distance from the rudder pivot to the tiller mount. Rick On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:21 AM, thebooker wrote: > Hi all, > > I've installed the tiller pilot in the same location as other installations > I've seen on the list - a few inches inboard from the port stern cleat - > about as far inboard as I could go. > > I've got the 6" extension which I thought was the max. > > Absolutely love it! You can't imagine the freedom it gives a single > hander. > I'm calling mine "Sally" and she steers far more consistently than I do. > And > she doesn't complain about sitting out in the sun while I'm in shade under > bimini. > > But, mounting really needs to be 3" or 4" more inboard to move tiller > equally in both directions. Right now it occasionally runs out of travel > attempting to turn boat to stbd. > > As at least two others seem to have mounted theirs as I have, I'm puzzled > as to why no one has said they had this problem. > > I have the adapter which will allow mounting on a near vertical surface > but > before I do that, wanted to check in with other users. > > Brooks Bridges > "Changes" > > > > ----- > Brooks Bridges > 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" > Cambridge, MD > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/ST-1000-tiller-pilot-mounting-question-tp53298.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From stan at rhodes22.com Fri Jun 16 15:26:28 2017 From: stan at rhodes22.com (Stan Spitzer) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 15:26:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: that wrench In-Reply-To: References: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> <006a01d2e647$12e91f60$38bb5e20$@ca> Message-ID: <35bcde60-335f-2ce1-ddd8-ca104ef3fd3b@rhodes22.com> thanks, but if it does not have STANLEY printed on it in yellow letters, it is not mine. Besides I was not old enough to own tools when that boat was built. Any tools of ours found on any Rhodes, would never be rusted. stan On 6/16/17 1:33 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > Graham, > Great story, thanks for sharing. > > I, too, need to fish some wires above the cabin liner. How are you going about this? thanks - rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:20 PM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] that wrench > > Stan: > While fishing wires between the cockpit and cabin liner the wires got snagged on something. After struggling with it for some time I managed to fish out a wrench that had been there, presumably, since the boat was being built in 1976. It is a tad rusty after 41 years but is otherwise serviceable. I know how frustrating it is to lose tools when you had it in your hand a few minutes ago. So Stan, if you are still looking for that wrench you can relax now and I will gladly send it to you if you need it to complete your set. Otherwise I will keep it as a souvenir from when the boat was built. > > Graham > Graham Stewart > Agile. R22, 1976 > Kingston Ontario Canada > > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 2017-06-15 22.07.02.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1069161 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Fri Jun 16 20:21:27 2017 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 20:21:27 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: that wrench In-Reply-To: References: <002e01d2e31d$ad07c510$07174f30$@ca> <006a01d2e647$12e91f60$38bb5e20$@ca> Message-ID: <00b001d2e6ff$a9891cf0$fc9b56d0$@ca> Rob: If you are looking for a way to fish wired above the cabin liner then I don't think that can be done as there is solid core throughout the cabin top. Why would you want to do that? Fishing wires in the space between the cockpit and the cabin liner is a pain - particularly if the wires have plugs on them that can't be removed as was the case with my instruments. I have attached a picture of my companionway with the instruments to show you where I needed to get the wires to. There is a bend in the wall just below the instruments where the inside space narrows considerably. Having done this several times I have found that the best route is to feed the wires up from under the seats where you can feed the wires up above the bend and then in towards the companion way. In my case there is a piece of wood above and parallel to the bend on the port side - a few inches below where the compass is mounted. I don't know why it is there or whether this is typical. You need to go around the outside end of the wood piece as you will otherwise be blocked or even worse get jammed. To feed the wires I found that the best tool is a standard electricians fish tape but the hook on the end needs to be modified. Fist the hook will catch on all manner of objects and wires and when that happens it can be a devil of a problem to retrieve it. Secondly, you need to have a way to grab the end when it reaches the hole you are aiming for. The attached picture shows how I modified the fish with tape to close off the hook and the addition of a loop of twine to give you something to grab. I push the fish into the space until it reaches the destination hole, pull the end of the tape through the hole using the twine loop, and then attach the wires to the twine loop and pull the fish back. Inside the cabin I found that the best place to feed wires fore and aft is under the port seat using hangers attached to the ledge that supports the seat. As I have my battery located with the holding tank under the Vee birth and the electrical panel located on the main bulkhead by the toilet I have quite a few wires located under the seat and then routed under the floor boards and up the compression post to the panel. If you would like a picture of this arrangement just let me know. I hope that helps. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob Sent: June 16, 2017 1:34 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] FW: that wrench Graham, Great story, thanks for sharing. I, too, need to fish some wires above the cabin liner. How are you going about this? thanks - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:20 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: [Rhodes22-list] that wrench Stan: While fishing wires between the cockpit and cabin liner the wires got snagged on something. After struggling with it for some time I managed to fish out a wrench that had been there, presumably, since the boat was being built in 1976. It is a tad rusty after 41 years but is otherwise serviceable. I know how frustrating it is to lose tools when you had it in your hand a few minutes ago. So Stan, if you are still looking for that wrench you can relax now and I will gladly send it to you if you need it to complete your set. Otherwise I will keep it as a souvenir from when the boat was built. Graham Graham Stewart Agile. 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I'll check it out. ----- Brooks Bridges 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" Cambridge, MD -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ST-1000-tiller-pilot-mounting-question-tp53298p53304.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From bridges.brooks at gmail.com Sat Jun 17 11:21:48 2017 From: bridges.brooks at gmail.com (thebooker) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 08:21:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ST 1000 tiller pilot mounting question In-Reply-To: References: <1497626482387-53298.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1497712908308-53305.post@n5.nabble.com> Thing is, I did rough measurement at one point, saw the other installations and thought I was good. Now I find it needs to mount in thin air or I need another extension as suggested by Peter. ----- Brooks Bridges 1986, Recycled 2006 "Changes" Cambridge, MD -- View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ST-1000-tiller-pilot-mounting-question-tp53298p53305.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From scranevmd at verizon.net Sun Jun 18 14:14:00 2017 From: scranevmd at verizon.net (Susan Crane) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:14:00 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ethanol problems Message-ID: <00fa01d2e85e$a8df44e0$fa9dcea0$@net> I posted a query last fall about the problems I was having with my Mercury outboard and received several very helpful replies that basically indicated that my problems with stalling and erratic idling were due to buildup of ethanol residue in the carburetor. So I have tried unplugging the gas line and letting the motor run till it stalls, but I am still having problems. This is probably a silly question, but when one does that with the gas line, do you leave it unplugged until the next time you use it or do you reattach it after the motor stops, or does it matter? Just in case anyone wonders, I have been adding fuel treatment to the gas. Next question: I have found a local gas station which sells ethanol free gas and am going to switch to that. Will using it help clean out the carburetor or do I need to have it cleaned or replaced? I had a new carburetor put in last summer and the motor ran perfectly for a few outings before the problems recurred. Obviously, I know nothing about outboard motor functioning and the mechanic at my marina has been less than helpful. He doesn't seem to believe that it is an ethanol issue. I am trying to avoid buying a new outboard, but am at my wits end with this. Just the stress of the motor stalling while docking takes some of the fun out of sailing. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Susan Crane s/v Whimsy Bohemia River Chesapeake Bay From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Sun Jun 18 14:44:26 2017 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 14:44:26 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ethanol problems In-Reply-To: <00fa01d2e85e$a8df44e0$fa9dcea0$@net> References: <00fa01d2e85e$a8df44e0$fa9dcea0$@net> Message-ID: Hi Susan, There is no such thing as ethanol build up. Instead, the ethanol is probably dissolving your fuel line or even your gas tank. Be sure your fuel system is ethanol tolerant and the ethanol will actually keep your engine clean. If you have a gas station that now sells ethanol free gas, that will probably not last long. With the new EPA mandate for 15% ethanol, corn producers are going gang busters and the supply of ethanol will soon be overwhelming. Rick On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Susan Crane wrote: > I posted a query last fall about the problems I was having with my Mercury > outboard and received several very helpful replies that basically indicated > that my problems with stalling and erratic idling were due to buildup of > ethanol residue in the carburetor. So I have tried unplugging the gas line > and letting the motor run till it stalls, but I am still having problems. > This is probably a silly question, but when one does that with the gas > line, > do you leave it unplugged until the next time you use it or do you reattach > it after the motor stops, or does it matter? Just in case anyone wonders, > I > have been adding fuel treatment to the gas. Next question: I have found a > local gas station which sells ethanol free gas and am going to switch to > that. Will using it help clean out the carburetor or do I need to have it > cleaned or replaced? I had a new carburetor put in last summer and the > motor ran perfectly for a few outings before the problems recurred. > Obviously, I know nothing about outboard motor functioning and the mechanic > at my marina has been less than helpful. He doesn't seem to believe that > it > is an ethanol issue. I am trying to avoid buying a new outboard, but am at > my wits end with this. Just the stress of the motor stalling while docking > takes some of the fun out of sailing. Any help will be greatly > appreciated. > > > > Susan Crane > > s/v Whimsy > > Bohemia River > > Chesapeake Bay > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Sun Jun 18 15:05:11 2017 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:05:11 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Ethanol problems In-Reply-To: References: <00fa01d2e85e$a8df44e0$fa9dcea0$@net>, Message-ID: Susan: I unplug my gas line and let the motor run dry when I return to my slip at the end of a sailing outing, I think plug the gas line back in so it is ready to go the next time I go out. In addition to gas stabilizer that keeps teh gas fresh I also us a gas additive Sea Foam that helps keep the carburetor clean. I also completely empty my gas tank at the end of the season and start with fresh gas at the start of the season. Sent from my iPad Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW