[Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
Joseph Dempsey
joedempsey at hughes.net
Mon Aug 27 12:29:11 EDT 2018
If you're using the Rhodes mast Cradle and mast winch, you don't need two people. I've done it solo 4 times in one and a half years.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Chris Cowie and GB (Mrbabs)
2. Re: Chris Cowie and GB (Stan Spitzer)
3. Lowering the mast (David Talbot)
4. Re: Chris Cowie and GB (Joe Camp)
5. Re: Lowering the mast (Richard Beytagh)
6. Re: Lowering the mast (Curtis Ruck)
7. Re: Lowering the mast (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
8. Re: Lowering the mast (David Talbot)
9. Gallons per hour (Chris Cowie)
10. Re: Gallons per hour (Charles Nieman)
11. Re: Gallons per hour (Chris Cowie)
12. Re: Gallons per hour (Rick Lange)
13. Re: Gallons per hour (Stephen Staum)
14. Re: Gallons per hour (S/V Lark)
15. Re: Gallons per hour (Rick Lange)
16. Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (Tex Hill)
17. Re: Helping Other Rhodies (elle)
18. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (S/V Lark)
19. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (S/V Lark)
20. Re: Helping Other Rhodies (marcelsophia)
21. Re: Helping Other Rhodies (Chris Cowie)
22. Re: Helping Other Rhodies (Stan Spitzer)
23. Re: Helping Other Rhodies (scranevmd at verizon.net)
24. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (Charles Gabriel)
25. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (Tex Hill)
26. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (S/V Lark)
27. Re: Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22 (Chris Cowie)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:10:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Mrbabs <Marc at babineauins.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Cowie and GB
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For Rhodies new and old, the continuation of General Boats is a positive
proposition. Who wants to own an orphan boat, even if beautiful?
How the continuation occurs is solely in the hands of the well known and
very respected helmsman himself. The term "partnering" can mean different
things to different people. Investments or partnerships can be made with
time, talent or treasure. Interested parties rightly want to know what their
ROI would be.
Those wishing to partner must set forth their vision of what a partnership
needs to look like to entice interest.
But if one assumes the value of the business and real estate is $2,000,000,
simple math says General Boats would have to generate a profit of $14,000
per month to amortize a 20 year note. You would need to sell X number of new
and recycled Rhodes to pay the operating expenses plus generate the required
profit?
Maybe the real estate has a higher value than what a boat manufacturer can
support? I don't know the answers to any of these questions, but now that
we have embarked on a public discussion, maybe a basic framework can be
established starting with Stan's wish list.
Speaking for myself, I would like to be able to access and order parts
online!
We seem to be caught in the doldrums on this issue and although it's my hope
Stan lives another 92 years, the time and tide wait for no man.
Humble and respectful,
I remain
Marc B.
s/v Baby Steps 2007/2013
Westminster, MA
-----
Marc B.
s/v Baby Steps
Westminster MA
Sailing Narragansett Bay
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:44:17 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Cowie and GB
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Mark,
Thanks for your scholarly input.? I expect no less from you.? The
semantics that pops out first in my read is the word "Return" from ROI
(return on investment).? I know most of my growing up together friends,
no longer with us, took the narrow read as "dollars".? Of course ones
meaning for "return" is, rightly so, a personal one.? I started out, for
some unclear reasons, choosing the one that meant a long, physically and
mentally healthy, happy life.? One of my confirmations came at a class
reunion.? A lady I had trouble placing, tugged at my sweater, "You are
the only husband here doing what you want to do".
stan, with a fuller response to your mail, still to come, if you really
want.
On 8/23/18 3:10 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
> For Rhodies new and old, the continuation of General Boats is a positive
> proposition. Who wants to own an orphan boat, even if beautiful?
>
> How the continuation occurs is solely in the hands of the well known and
> very respected helmsman himself. The term "partnering" can mean different
> things to different people. Investments or partnerships can be made with
> time, talent or treasure. Interested parties rightly want to know what their
> ROI would be.
>
> Those wishing to partner must set forth their vision of what a partnership
> needs to look like to entice interest.
>
> But if one assumes the value of the business and real estate is $2,000,000,
> simple math says General Boats would have to generate a profit of $14,000
> per month to amortize a 20 year note. You would need to sell X number of new
> and recycled Rhodes to pay the operating expenses plus generate the required
> profit?
>
> Maybe the real estate has a higher value than what a boat manufacturer can
> support? I don't know the answers to any of these questions, but now that
> we have embarked on a public discussion, maybe a basic framework can be
> established starting with Stan's wish list.
>
> Speaking for myself, I would like to be able to access and order parts
> online!
>
> We seem to be caught in the doldrums on this issue and although it's my hope
> Stan lives another 92 years, the time and tide wait for no man.
>
> Humble and respectful,
> I remain
>
> Marc B.
> s/v Baby Steps 2007/2013
> Westminster, MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Marc B.
> s/v Baby Steps
> Westminster MA
> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>
> --
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 17:32:39 -0400
From: David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
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Any suggestions out there for a 2-person lowering?
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:38:48 +0000 (UTC)
From: Joe Camp <jjcampjr at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Cowie and GB
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Hi Friend;
???? And I am not starting this way to tickle your poo-gullet (or whatever the current hyperbole for ass kissing is) and I won't run this on and on (as I am wont to... most of the time, as writers and English professors do).? I only want to comment on your enviable cache of pure wisdom displayed on the list and acquired over the years of rebuffing long lines of grommet bandits (as my long departed cop buddy and USN veteran who served on a? a sea-going tug in the North Atlantic during WW Deuce used to quip when referring to insults to a sailor's scuppers out-flow ). There was? no time then for eloquent semantics (I really love that word, say it out loud, "semantics";? It belongs in a poem) when riding fifty foot swells while steaming west from the Canary Islands chained to a torpedoed troop carrier headed to New Jersey.? Crap! looks as if I did get carried away again.?? No matter.
???? Ergo, allow me to close with this gem of a statement: As it turns out, you, yes you Stan are my personal ROI associated with belonging to this boat family. That's it, Pappy.
Joe Camp
sv John Dawson
Presumed floating on the Bohemia River, Earleville, MD.
On Friday, August 24, 2018, 8:44:22 AM EDT, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
Mark,
Thanks for your scholarly input.? I expect no less from you.? The
semantics that pops out first in my read is the word "Return" from ROI
(return on investment).? I know most of my growing up together friends,
no longer with us, took the narrow read as "dollars".? Of course ones
meaning for "return" is, rightly so, a personal one.? I started out, for
some unclear reasons, choosing the one that meant a long, physically and
mentally healthy, happy life.? One of my confirmations came at a class
reunion.? A lady I had trouble placing, tugged at my sweater, "You are
the only husband here doing what you want to do".
stan, with a fuller response to your mail, still to come, if you really
want.
On 8/23/18 3:10 PM, Mrbabs wrote:
> For Rhodies new and old, the continuation of General Boats is a positive
> proposition.? Who wants to own an orphan boat, even if beautiful?
>
> How the continuation occurs is solely in the hands of the well known and
> very respected helmsman himself.? The term "partnering" can mean different
> things to different people. Investments or partnerships can be made with
> time, talent or treasure. Interested parties rightly want to know what their
> ROI would be.
>
> Those wishing to partner must set forth their vision of what a partnership
> needs to look like to entice interest.
>
> But if one assumes the value of the business and real estate is $2,000,000,
> simple math says General Boats would have to generate a profit of $14,000
> per month to amortize a 20 year note. You would need to sell X number of new
> and recycled Rhodes to pay the operating expenses plus generate the required
> profit?
>
> Maybe the real estate has a higher value than what a boat manufacturer can
> support?? I don't know the answers to any of these questions, but now that
> we have embarked on a public discussion, maybe a basic framework can be
> established starting with Stan's wish list.
>
> Speaking for myself, I would like to be able to access and order parts
> online!
>
> We seem to be caught in the doldrums on this issue and although it's my hope
> Stan lives another 92 years, the time and tide wait for no man.
>
> Humble and respectful,
> I remain
>
> Marc B.
> s/v Baby Steps? 2007/2013
> Westminster, MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Marc B.
> s/v Baby Steps
> Westminster MA
> Sailing Narragansett Bay
>
> --
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 21:17:46 -0400
From: Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
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Main question, do you have any of the mast lowering/raising paranafalia?
~~~ _/) ~~~
Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 5:32 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Any suggestions out there for a 2-person lowering?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 21:54:05 -0400
From: Curtis Ruck <ruckc at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
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I don't have the General Boats nice/new mast raising lowering kit, but i
have what appears to be a DIY raising lowering kit that works very well for
single hand lift in low wind. in higher wind i just get a bystander at the
marina to hold one of the shrouds against the wind for balance.
The 2x4 on the mast end, is concave, to grip the mast, with a cheap ratchet
strap to hold it against the mast. On the other end, it has two loop
brackets. On the top side, i just attach the main sheet, and have the
other end secured. On the bottom side, it has a line going from a cheap
dinghy trailer winch through a block/pulley going to the fore stay
attachment point.
I attach the rear shrouds before raising so once its up, i can pull against
them and the backstays to keep it from falling to one side or the other.
then I quickly attach the rest of the shrouds, then the forestay/furler.
It is a very very simple system. I've raised lowered in 10 knots of wind
without significant issue. I've heard. the GB system can raise/lower in an
hour. I can have this boat ready to sail in 2 hours. I'm not sure what
optimizations Stan made in his system to have a sub 1 hour time... maybe
the in-mast furling? Maybe quick adjusting stay/shroud rigging screws? It
takes me 45 minutes just to get all of the shrouds/stays adjusted right. I
do not believe my 1979 Rhodes sails good with loose rigging. I've
typically adjust them to 200 lbs.
--
Curtis
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 9:17 PM Richard Beytagh <rbeytagh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Main question, do you have any of the mast lowering/raising paranafalia?
>
>
> ~~~ _/) ~~~
>
> Richard Beytagh
> Phone: 828 337 0180
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 5:32 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions out there for a 2-person lowering?
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:39:24 -0400
From: <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
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David,
Two persons can easily raise or lower the original non-IMF from the bow.
There is no need for a mast crane. It is really not that heavy and the
second person is there for safety and when you need to change your grip at
about 30 degrees from the horizontal. The mast and genoa combo are easily
supported by the bow pulpit.
If you have the IMF mast, the weight is considerably greater. The IMF rig
is best raised or lowered from a mast crutch located in the stern. The
crutch helps to start raising or finish lowering at a point that is well
above the horizontal (about 30 degrees). The crutch reduces the effort
required by the mast crane to start raising or finish lowering the mast
assembly. If the mast was perfectly horizontal it would be nearly
impossible to use the crane. Using a crane system requires a single
individual, although a second is recommended for safety and in case lines or
shrouds get caught during the process.
I have raised and lowered the IMF rig without the benefit of a crane system
with four strong guys and two six packs of beer. Unfortunately, even
increasing the beer ratio would not enable two persons to safely lower an
IMF rig without a crane.
Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 22:49:21 -0400
From: David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
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Thanks very helpful all
Appreciate the time and feedback
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 10:39 PM, <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
> David,
>
> Two persons can easily raise or lower the original non-IMF from the bow.
> There is no need for a mast crane. It is really not that heavy and the
> second person is there for safety and when you need to change your grip at
> about 30 degrees from the horizontal. The mast and genoa combo are easily
> supported by the bow pulpit.
>
> If you have the IMF mast, the weight is considerably greater. The IMF rig
> is best raised or lowered from a mast crutch located in the stern. The
> crutch helps to start raising or finish lowering at a point that is well
> above the horizontal (about 30 degrees). The crutch reduces the effort
> required by the mast crane to start raising or finish lowering the mast
> assembly. If the mast was perfectly horizontal it would be nearly
> impossible to use the crane. Using a crane system requires a single
> individual, although a second is recommended for safety and in case lines
> or
> shrouds get caught during the process.
>
> I have raised and lowered the IMF rig without the benefit of a crane system
> with four strong guys and two six packs of beer. Unfortunately, even
> increasing the beer ratio would not enable two persons to safely lower an
> IMF rig without a crane.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> David
> Talbot
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 5:33 PM
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> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Lowering the mast
>
> Any suggestions out there for a 2-person lowering?
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 05:29:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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A standard formula for an outboard is hp divided by ten or 8 hp divided by
equals .8 gallons per hour at 3/4 speed 5 kts. Does this seem about right?
That would give a five gallon tank about 25 km plus.
-----
Christopher P. Cowie
4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:24:49 +0000
From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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Chris
This sentence makes no sense and how did you change to km at the end ?????
Sent from my iPhone
Charles
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com> wrote:
>
> A standard formula for an outboard is hp divided by ten or 8 hp divided by
> equals .8 gallons per hour at 3/4 speed 5 kts. Does this seem about right?
> That would give a five gallon tank about 25 km plus.
>
>
>
> -----
> Christopher P. Cowie
>
> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> Suite 300
> Washington, DC 20007
> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 13:47:32 +0000
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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Trying to type on a phone. My basic question, does hp divided by ten provide and accurate estimate of gallons per hour.
Please note our new office address and phone number
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On Aug 25, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com<mailto:blue66corvette at hotmail.com>> wrote:
Chris
This sentence makes no sense and how did you change to km at the end ?????
Sent from my iPhone
Charles
On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>> wrote:
A standard formula for an outboard is hp divided by ten or 8 hp divided by
equals .8 gallons per hour at 3/4 speed 5 kts. Does this seem about right?
That would give a five gallon tank about 25 km plus.
-----
Christopher P. Cowie
4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
Suite 300
Washington, DC 20007
202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:44:33 -0400
From: Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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Hi Chris,
I don't think so, especially with 4 stroke engines where the variables are
like that of car mileage.
However, older 2 strokes are very predictable because they burn fuel at a
constant rate. My older 9hp burns a gallon each hour whether idling or
pushing through 5 ft waves.
Regards,
Rick
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 9:47 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
wrote:
> Trying to type on a phone. My basic question, does hp divided by ten
> provide and accurate estimate of gallons per hour.
>
>
> Please note our new office address and phone number
>
> Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
>
> 700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> Alexandria, Virginia 22314<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> mobile
> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
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> On Aug 25, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com
> <mailto:blue66corvette at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Chris
> This sentence makes no sense and how did you change to km at the end ?????
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Charles
>
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> <mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>> wrote:
>
> A standard formula for an outboard is hp divided by ten or 8 hp divided by
> equals .8 gallons per hour at 3/4 speed 5 kts. Does this seem about right?
> That would give a five gallon tank about 25 km plus.
>
>
>
> -----
> Christopher P. Cowie
>
> 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> Suite 300
> Washington, DC 20007
> 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 12:11:06 -0400
From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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Rick,
I don?t understand. My 4 HP 2 stroke had a quart tank on the outboard. It
would run 2 hours @ 4.5 knots & 1 hour @ 5.5 knots. Since consumption has a
direct relationship to power output in any engine I don?t get how your 2
stroke consumes the same at all power settings. When flying I owned
aircraft with 108, 150 & 180 HP. They consumed 6, 8 & 10 gallons per hour
respectively @ 70% cruise power. Sorry Chris, I don?t know the formula
for computing consumption vs HP but the you can probably come up with one
from the above #?s.
Stephen Staum
s/v Carol Lee 2
Needham, MA
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:45 AM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I don't think so, especially with 4 stroke engines where the variables are
> like that of car mileage.
>
> However, older 2 strokes are very predictable because they burn fuel at a
> constant rate. My older 9hp burns a gallon each hour whether idling or
> pushing through 5 ft waves.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 9:47 AM Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Trying to type on a phone. My basic question, does hp divided by ten
> > provide and accurate estimate of gallons per hour.
> >
> >
> > Please note our new office address and phone number
> >
> > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0]
> >
> > 700 N Fairfax Street<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > Suite 304
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%0A%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0A%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > Alexandria, Virginia 22314
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=BD581F0%5D%0A%3E%0A%3E+700+N+Fairfax+Street+%0A%3E+Suite+304+%0A%3E+Alexandria,+Virginia+22314&entry=gmail&source=g>
> <x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
> > 703.717.9103<tel:703.717.9103> ex.204 ? 202.270.1470<tel:202.270.1470>
> > mobile
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >
> > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0]
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
> >
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com
> > <mailto:blue66corvette at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Chris
> > This sentence makes no sense and how did you change to km at the end
> ?????
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > On Aug 25, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com
> > <mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>> wrote:
> >
> > A standard formula for an outboard is hp divided by ten or 8 hp divided
> by
> > equals .8 gallons per hour at 3/4 speed 5 kts. Does this seem about
> right?
> > That would give a five gallon tank about 25 km plus.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Christopher P. Cowie
> >
> > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW
> > Suite 300
> > Washington, DC 20007
> > 202.342.2711 ex.204 ? 202.342.2691 fax ? 202.270.1470 mobile
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com<mailto:ccowie at cowieassociates.com>]
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:28:13 -0700 (MST)
From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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I don?t know a formula. I have a couple data points to muddy the water
(incorporate into your model).
My tohatsu sailmaster 6 has taken the Rhodes 25 n m at 4.5 knots uisng less
then a gallon in 1-2 foot confused chop. There was no wind, or I wouldn?t
know this. It was right after a carbourator rebuild.
On a 500 pound Chrysler dinghy my Evenrude 2 cylinder 4 hp 2 stroke can tow
another boat a mile at near hull speed but will only make it half a mile
back before emptying its 1.5 qt internal tank. Again, I wouldn?t have
learned this if there was wind. On the other hand it has suffered two
mechanical failures in 30 years, otherwise starting on the second pull every
time no matter the temperature, so I guess It?s efficiency may be hindered
by the fact it actually runs.
Math by dummies.
Alex
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:53:14 -0400
From: Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Gallons per hour
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Stephen,
You're mixing apples with oranges, pears, etc.
An old 2 stroke 9.9hp is way oversized for most conditions of the R22, yet
when you need the muscle it is there. So it will maintain a minimum fuel
flow for lubrication and never reach full RPM.
Very dirty but completely reliable throughout 20 years.
Regards,
Rick
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I don?t understand. My 4 HP 2 stroke had a quart tank on the outboard. It
> would run 2 hours @ 4.5 knots & 1 hour @ 5.5 knots. Since consumption has a
> direct relationship to power output in any engine I don?t get how your 2
> stroke consumes the same at all power settings. When flying I owned
> aircraft with 108, 150 & 180 HP. They consumed 6, 8 & 10 gallons per hour
> respectively @ 70% cruise power. Sorry Chris, I don?t know the formula
> for computing consumption vs HP but the you can probably come up with one
> from the above #?s.
>
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Carol Lee 2
> Needham, MA
>
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 14:20:40 -0500
From: Tex Hill <sundsvalla at earthlink.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Cc: Gloria Hill <gloria.denise at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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I need a photo or diagram of the main cabin sole for Rhodes 22.
I had the sole replaced and it was replaced without the inspection hole for the bilge. Now I need to know where to cut a hole to get to the bilge and center board cap.......
Thanks,
Tex Hill
Pensacola, FL
850-453-1729 home
850-287-4009 cell
850-324-9188 cell
In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:31:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Helping Other Rhodies
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Anyone out there who really WANTS an R-22? Have a great one for sale...I'm getting old but she is in the prime of her life.
elle
On Monday, August 20, 2018 12:42 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
I really love the way the "List Members" are always stepping up to assist
other owners with their problems or just question. I feel I could not sell
my Rhodes 22 to someone that JUST wants a sailboat. They would need to WANT
a Rhodes 22.
Cary
s/v Whisper
Radford, VA
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:30:39 -0700 (MST)
From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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This may not help much, it shows the sole partially removed from a v berth
perspective. The bilge hatch sits between the stingers just in front of
the centerboard cap and goes up to the battery compartment and head area.
I can measure it tomorrow, thunderstorms allowing.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 19:32:22 -0700 (MST)
From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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Apologies, linked the wrong image.
Alex
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 07:31:26 -0700 (MST)
From: marcelsophia <marcelsophia at aol.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Helping Other Rhodies
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Hi. I am new to sailing and am very interested in buying a Rhodes 22. My
husband and I have been looking for a while and have not found very many for
sale. Where is the boat located? Do you have any photos? What year is it?
The Rhodes 22 seems like the perfect boat and i am very interested. Thanks
so much. Sophia
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 14:50:16 +0000
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
To: marcelsophia <marcelsophia at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Helping Other Rhodies
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Sophia
The Rhodes list is a very supportive group and many owners are willing to take you out for a sail. Where are you located? I have a boat at the Washington sailing marina in Alexandria Virginia and can show you my boat if you are In The area. Send me an email.
Please note our new office address and phone number
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Suite 304<x-apple-data-detectors://3/0>
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On Aug 26, 2018, at 10:31 AM, marcelsophia via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> wrote:
Hi. I am new to sailing and am very interested in buying a Rhodes 22. My
husband and I have been looking for a while and have not found very many for
sale. Where is the boat located? Do you have any photos? What year is it?
The Rhodes 22 seems like the perfect boat and i am very interested. Thanks
so much. Sophia
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:51:18 -0400
From: Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: marcelsophia <marcelsophia at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Helping Other Rhodies
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Hi Sophia,
While General Boats in NC is the best place for you to see the most used
Rhodes available in a single location, I think in your case you should
buy one through a private party sale.? Our strong suggestion is that
when you do, you should go with the Certificate of Support program.
??? ? http://www.usedrhodes.com/certificate.html
stan
On 8/26/18 10:31 AM, marcelsophia via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> Hi. I am new to sailing and am very interested in buying a Rhodes 22. My
> husband and I have been looking for a while and have not found very many for
> sale. Where is the boat located? Do you have any photos? What year is it?
> The Rhodes 22 seems like the perfect boat and i am very interested. Thanks
> so much. Sophia
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 10:59:33 -0400
From: <scranevmd at verizon.net>
To: "'marcelsophia'" <marcelsophia at aol.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 Email
List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Helping Other Rhodies
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Where are you located? I have a boat on the Chesapeake Bay that I am
selling. You can reach me at 610-637-9660. I do have someone interested
but that is not final at this time.
Susan Crane
s/v Whimsy
Bohemia River
Chesapeake Bay
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Hi. I am new to sailing and am very interested in buying a Rhodes 22. My
husband and I have been looking for a while and have not found very many for
sale. Where is the boat located? Do you have any photos? What year is it?
The Rhodes 22 seems like the perfect boat and i am very interested. Thanks
so much. Sophia
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 12:16:53 -0400
From: Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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Maybe this will help. Vintage c1992.
[image: 20180826_112459.jpg]
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 3:20 PM Tex Hill <sundsvalla at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I need a photo or diagram of the main cabin sole for Rhodes 22.
> I had the sole replaced and it was replaced without the inspection hole
> for the bilge. Now I need to know where to cut a hole to get to the bilge
> and center board cap.......
> Thanks,
> Tex Hill
> Pensacola, FL
> 850-453-1729 home
> 850-287-4009 cell
> 850-324-9188 cell
>
> In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 19:52:31 -0500
From: Tex Hill <sundsvalla at earthlink.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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Thanks Alex'
What year is Lark?
Your bilge opening looks narrower than what I remember ours is . I assume the picture is looking aft? If so than your boat is different than ours because I don't see the step/bench we have. I don't recall the stringers being that close together. I am afraid to cut the new sole and hit the stringer.
I received a picture from Charles, another Rhodes owner that looks just like ours with the sole in place and asked him to send a picture with the sole inspection hatch removed. Anxious to see where the stringers are before I cut.
Actually have someone else cut since some RVN and old age injuries make it interesting for me to get down on my knees.
Again, thank you for your reply.
Tex Hill
In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
> On Aug 25, 2018, at 21:30, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> This may not help much, it shows the sole partially removed from a v berth
> perspective. The bilge hatch sits between the stingers just in front of
> the centerboard cap and goes up to the battery compartment and head area.
> I can measure it tomorrow, thunderstorms allowing.
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t691/EEF19D0D-AA13-40AE-B1EE-429FECD7B187.jpeg>
>
>
>
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Message: 26
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:44:40 -0700 (MST)
From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t691/581DCB3E-D09C-4082-BC09-498DF4209D2B.jpeg>
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t691/555CC485-C08F-41EE-BA5E-5B958CF4CF72.jpeg>
Lark is a 2002 boat. The stringers are fiberglass. I pulled the step out
because birds had plugged my centerboard pennant tube with grass from a
failed nest that turned into black goo. The seats were draining into the
cabin step and filling my bilge. A plumbers snake would go right through
the slime but not remove it. Raising and lowering the centerboard didn?t
help either. I needed access to pull the tube and clean it out. I think
it was leaking around the hose clamp.
I also pulled part of the sole out, the port side went under the settee and
the starboard under the galley, The center could be removed independently
to access the centerboard. This is the advantage of a builder that refits
his boats. Thanks Stan.
I didn?t remember a tape measure like Charles, but used a key as reference
for size.
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Alex Cole
S/V Lark
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 10:15:07 +0000
From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Photo of main cabin sole Rhodes 22
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I replaced my sole with teak and holy and made a pattern of pieces that can be removed withe screws and an inspection hatch.[image1.jpeg][image2.jpeg][image3.jpeg][image4.jpeg]
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On Aug 26, 2018, at 8:52 PM, Tex Hill <sundsvalla at earthlink.net<mailto:sundsvalla at earthlink.net>> wrote:
Thanks Alex'
What year is Lark?
Your bilge opening looks narrower than what I remember ours is . I assume the picture is looking aft? If so than your boat is different than ours because I don't see the step/bench we have. I don't recall the stringers being that close together. I am afraid to cut the new sole and hit the stringer.
I received a picture from Charles, another Rhodes owner that looks just like ours with the sole in place and asked him to send a picture with the sole inspection hatch removed. Anxious to see where the stringers are before I cut.
Actually have someone else cut since some RVN and old age injuries make it interesting for me to get down on my knees.
Again, thank you for your reply.
Tex Hill
In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day!
On Aug 25, 2018, at 21:30, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com<mailto:Colealexander at hotmail.com>> wrote:
This may not help much, it shows the sole partially removed from a v berth
perspective. The bilge hatch sits between the stingers just in front of
the centerboard cap and goes up to the battery compartment and head area.
I can measure it tomorrow, thunderstorms allowing.
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