[Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS

[Graham Stewart]

Mary Lou's comment is interesting. As I recall,  and it was a long time ago,  we didn't have any sort of furling on our sail. That might make a considerable difference.
Graham

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From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou Troy
Sent: January 23, 2018 9:26 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS

This was not our experience at all with the UPS (a Doyle trademark) on the Rhodes. It would sail beautifully upwind (but not closehauled) and downwind in light air. We could sail in stronger breezes off the wind. 
We never had trouble furling it to take it down when the winds got stronger.

The only issue would be if we left it up after it was furled in stronger or gusty breezes, it would begin to unfurl itself at the top because unlike the jib, the furling mechanism works simply to loosely control the sail.

We would sometimes keep the sail bag lashed to something at the base of the mast after the sail was deployed and then when we wanted to drop the UPS, we would furl it, drop it  and stuff it right into the bag with halyard and sheets attached so it was ready to be deployed again. It made for an awful lot of lines all over the place but was doable. The tack of the sail would still be attached so that part of the sail was lying on the foredeck. I can't remember if we ever left it this way overnight - probably not.

Mary Lou

ex Rhodes 22

now Rosborough RF-246  Tara


On 1/23/2018 8:59 AM, Graham Stewart wrote:
> Hi Peter:
> Many years ago when I owned a Mirage 27 I bought and used a UPS. I can't remember who the manufacturer was. Basically, the sail that I had worked like a spinnaker but without the pole. It was for downwind sailing in light air. It was very difficult to control when the winds picked up and there were a few times when we had a real struggle to take it down. So when you say " I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather" I don't think this is the sail that you would want to use. But for downwind sailing in light air it was a dream.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile. R22, 1976
> Kingston Ontario Canada
>
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> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
> Sent: January 22, 2018 10:08 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Doyle UPS
>
> Before I bought my Rhodes 22, I spent many hours looking through the archives of this email list, and since I’ve owned Silverheels, I usually spend some time during the long New England winters going back again to look for nuggets of wisdom or inspiration. Which is what I’ve been doing lately.
>
> Back in the winter and early spring of 2003, there was much discussion 
> of what I think was a fairly new type of head sail from Doyle.  At 
> least it appeared to be new to the people on the list at that time.  
> It’s called the ‘UPS’. That stands for Utility Power Sail. It’s still 
> available from Doyle, otherwise I wouldn’t be bringing it up now. 
> (http://www.doylesails.com/cruising/downwind/ups/index.html)
>
> It’s a large sail, probably a bit larger than the 175% genoa. The sail fabric is lighter than used for the genoa.  It does not use the head-stay for support, instead it requires an eye on the fore-deck and a halyard. In recent searches I’ve seen it referred to as a ‘code 0’ or a ‘code 1’, if those are terms that mean anything to you.
>
> Back in 2003, not everyone who showed an interest explained clearly why they were interested.  But at least a few where thinking then along the same lines that I’m thinking now.
>
> I want to be able to sail better in heavy weather.
>
> There’s a bit of a bank-shot in my thinking here.  The UPS is not a heavy weather sail.  But then, neither is my 175% genoa.  The big genoa can be reefed in higher winds, but a bit of reading on the Internet reveals that I’m not the only person who feels that it really doesn’t perform that well.  So, step one would be to replace my old and tired 175% genoa with something like a 135% genoa.  But then for light air sailing (i.e. most days) supplement that with the UPS.
>
> As I said, back in the archives there’s lots of chatter in Winter and early Spring of 2003 about the UPS.  Several people claim to have ordered one, a few people claim to have received one, there are one or two initial installation reports, and then for the rest of the year there’s nothing.
>
> My primary purpose for this post is to ask if there’s anyone out there using a Doyle UPS (or something similar) who would be willing to enlighten us about the pros and cons and ins and outs and hows and whys.
>
> But, if there’s anyone interested in having a new conversation about this subject, or anything related (or really anything at all, except politics), I’m certainly open for that as well.
>
> When does the ice thaw?
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
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