[Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Re: Mast raising

[Jim Connolly]

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From: Jim Connolly <jbconnolly at comcast.net>
Date: Jun 9, 2018 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising
To: stan at rhodes22.com
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> Additional context to Stan's post...
>
> The one time this happened to me, I was in a hurry and one of the two aft stays caught (on the stern rail-mounted tiller extension holders, iirc). The mast stopped going up about 2/3 up. I couldn't see problem from the bow. When I reversed the winch to lower the mast, the foot of the mast crane popped off the deck.
>
> No damage (except to the plastic block, as per Stan's design). It's supposed to pop off and spare the deck more serious damage.
>
> If the mast raising doesn't go as planned, I'd suggest not putting more tension than designed on the system, and figuring out the problem before you try again.
>
> My $0.02.
>
> Jim Connolly
> Former owner 2002-2015
>
> Sent from my Verizon Motorola Smartphone
> On Jun 9, 2018 2:05 PM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > the mast fell.  Which way; back or sideways?  At 2/3rds up there is 
> > hardly any lateral force on this plate so screws are in sheer and the 
> > mast's down thrust would make it unlikely that the plate under the mast 
> > would move.  Unless the mast was not being supported as intended, from 
> > side forces.
> >
> > On 6/9/18 1:46 PM, John Blackburn wrote:
> > > Thank you for all the responses. I will correct "block" to " plastic plate".
> > >
> > > The original problem was when hoisting the mast and about 2/3 of the way up
> > > the plastic plate came out and the mast fell. When I went to re-screw it
> > > the bolts would not snug up and kept turning. I am concerned that the
> > > plastic plate will come out if I attempt it again without securing it.
> > >
> > > I have raised the mast many times over the 5 years I have owned the boat
> > > without any trouble, and did nothing different this time. The boat spends
> > > winters indoors, so I would not think anything would deteriorate.
> > >
> > > Should I coat the bolt with 4200 and reinsert in the hole? or fill the hole
> > > with 4200 and reinsert bolt?
> > >
> > > The original installation instructions say* " drill 7/32 holes for the
> > > fasteners into the cabin top (which is over an inch thick at this point)
> > > being careful not to drill so deeply you come out into the inside of the
> > > cabin. Put some caulking in these holes. The machine screw fasteners will
> > > self tap into the holes securing the plate to the cabin top" *
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone - sorry for using block as in a block of plastic instead of
> > > Plate. Wasn't sure what to call it.
> > > Best Regards
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 8:25 AM, S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I’d assume 4200 or even 5200 since it will never move.    Stress on the
> > >> block
> > >> is down and aft not up.   The line to the bow cleat effectively continues
> > >> to
> > >> the lower shroud via the winch, so the cleat takes the upward stress,
> > >> The
> > >> pole redirects it only.    Until Stan wakes up, I don’t think the book
> > >> needs
> > >> to be able to carry a load, it just needs to not slide.
> > >> If yours is behaving differently, it may have an unexpected stress -
> > >> something snagged?
> > >>
> > >> Alex
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >> S/V Lark
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