From mkeys01 at windstream.net Sat Mar 3 00:15:01 2018 From: mkeys01 at windstream.net (matt) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:15:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] forsale sails and rigging Message-ID: <1520054101072-0.post@n5.nabble.com> for sale 2 sets of sails and rigging off of a 1976 rhodes22 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrissailorman at gmail.com Sat Mar 3 08:29:03 2018 From: chrissailorman at gmail.com (Christopher Greco) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 08:29:03 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] forsale sails and rigging In-Reply-To: <1520054101072-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520054101072-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <88645B73-8B70-4929-9089-3D5D8503ADF8@gmail.com> Interesting... Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 3, 2018, at 12:15 AM, matt wrote: > > for sale 2 sets of sails and rigging off of a 1976 rhodes22 > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From rebird at cox.net Sat Mar 3 11:40:50 2018 From: rebird at cox.net (rebird) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 09:40:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] forsale sails and rigging In-Reply-To: <1520054101072-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520054101072-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1520095250774-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I have a 1970. What size sails and how much? thks -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From cjlowe at sssnet.com Sun Mar 11 21:22:33 2018 From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 18:22:33 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? Message-ID: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Sun Mar 11 21:44:34 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:44:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I?ve been thinking about trying a smaller genoa. I?ve got the CDI furler. Do you know if it will work with that? Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 11, 2018, at 9:22 PM, cjlowe wrote: > > Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old > sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the > sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From snstaum at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 21:56:49 2018 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 21:56:49 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Is that for the old General Boats furler with the sleeve and grommet screwed to the aluminum pole:? If so, I am interested. Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 Needham, MA *Stephen Staum* *Pariser Industries, Inc.* On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:22 PM, cjlowe wrote: > Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old > sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the > sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From cjlowe at sssnet.com Sun Mar 11 22:17:00 2018 From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:17:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1520821020272-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Sorry Peter, it for the GB furler. Steven you are in luck. 330foursixfive7fourseven2. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ric at stottarchitecture.com Mon Mar 12 07:09:37 2018 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:09:37 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I?m interested. What kind of furler do you have? Ric Sv Dadventure. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 11, 2018, at 9:22 PM, cjlowe wrote: > > Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old > sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the > sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From snstaum at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 09:55:04 2018 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:55:04 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Is the sail in decent shape? I tore mine end of last season so am looking for a replacement that can last a couple seasons. Stephen On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:22 PM cjlowe wrote: > Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old > sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the > sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > -- Stephen Staum Pariser Industries, Inc. From peter at sunnybeeches.com Tue Mar 13 17:28:58 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:28:58 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Changes at Dwyer In-Reply-To: References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <9D9B9E9E-0925-4990-9609-7948FC177D63@sunnybeeches.com> As many of you are aware, much of the standing rigging on our Rhodes 22?s is sourced from the Dwyer Aluminum Mast Company (www.dwyermast.com ). I?m pretty sure they manufacture the IMF mast for GB, but as Stan has pointed out on this list in the past, he owns the die used for the process, not them. The relationship between GB and Dwyer probably dates back to when Stan?s operation was on Long Island, since Dwyer was conveniently located in North Branford, CT, not too far away. I say was because I just became aware that Dwyer has undergone a change in ownership, and is currently in the process of moving the operation to Bristol, RI. I have no idea what impact, if any, this change will have on the Rhodes 22 community. My fear is that whatever institutional knowledge that may have existed at Dwyer concerning the Rhodes 22 will be diminished, or lost altogether. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) From retiredtoby at gmail.com Wed Mar 14 22:07:14 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 22:07:14 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size Message-ID: Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What height best suits the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it would be similar to the conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know assume nothing. Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud that locks in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick locking for easy installation or removable of the frame? Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and knowledgeable people always provide. Cary Tolbert '86 Rhodes Radford, VA From retiredtoby at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 10:03:38 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:03:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE Message-ID: I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and experiences with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? Thanks! Cary Tolbert Radford, Va "86 Rhodes 22 From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Thu Mar 15 10:42:54 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:42:54 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stan offers a pop top enclosure that is custom fit to the Rhodes. I currently sail on the Potomac River and do not use the enclosure however when I sailed and anchored overnight on the Chesapeake Bay I found the enclosure a must have item. It offers lots of extra enclosed space for privacy and keeps the bugs out. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:04 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and experiences with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? Thanks! Cary Tolbert Radford, Va "86 Rhodes 22 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 11:03:43 2018 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:03:43 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cary, Have you checked with Stan? Rick On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Cary Tolbert wrote: > Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What height > best suits > the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it would be similar to the > conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know assume nothing. > > Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud that > locks > in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick locking for easy > installation > or removable of the frame? > > Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and > knowledgeable people always provide. > > Cary Tolbert > '86 Rhodes > Radford, VA > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Thu Mar 15 11:08:19 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:08:19 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stan has a bimini that fits the Rhodes and it works great to keep the sun off the cockpit. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:04 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size Cary, Have you checked with Stan? Rick On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Cary Tolbert wrote: > Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What > height best suits the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it > would be similar to the conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know > assume nothing. > > Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud > that locks in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick > locking for easy installation or removable of the frame? > > Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and > knowledgeable people always provide. > > Cary Tolbert > '86 Rhodes > Radford, VA > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Thu Mar 15 11:33:53 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:33:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cary, I consider my Bimini to be a piece of essential equipment on my boat, so I think you?re on the right track to consider one for yours. At the moment, my Bimini is in a canvas shop getting new fabric installed, and my boat is under about 8? of fresh snow, so I can?t measure anything for you, but then I?m also not sure what measurement you?re looking for. When my Bimini is unfolded, the boom just barely clears it. (I have the IMF mast/boom.) In fact sometimes if I?m close hauled in light winds, I ?ll put some tension on the topping lift just to keep the boom clear of the Bimini. As for second question, my Bimini does not have any sections of telescoping tubing. It?s made of three fixed length U shaped tubes which pivot, allowing it to be folded up and moved forward or aft when not deployed. The longest U shaped tube connects to the boat forward of the winches, the two shorter tubes connect to the longest tube. Disconnecting the Bimini only requires removing two short bolts. I only do this for winter storage. HTH Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 14, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Cary Tolbert wrote: > > Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What height > best suits > the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it would be similar to the > conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know assume nothing. > > Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud that > locks > in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick locking for easy > installation > or removable of the frame? > > Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and > knowledgeable people always provide. > > Cary Tolbert > '86 Rhodes > Radford, VA > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From retiredtoby at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 11:35:06 2018 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:35:06 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris, Thanks for the opinion of someone that actually has experience with the pop top. I try to support Stan with the big stuff. It seems that Stan is very,very slow on replying to Emails with questions on his products. Cary On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Stan offers a pop top enclosure that is custom fit to the Rhodes. I > currently sail on the Potomac River and do not use the enclosure however > when I sailed and anchored overnight on the Chesapeake Bay I found the > enclosure a must have item. It offers lots of extra enclosed space for > privacy and keeps the bugs out. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > Cary Tolbert > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:04 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE > > I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and > experiences with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be > helpful. > A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good > idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list > very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? > > Thanks! > > Cary Tolbert > Radford, Va > "86 Rhodes 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ > ____________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From daysails at aol.com Thu Mar 15 11:44:53 2018 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:44:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1622a55dcfd-1dab-18630@webjas-vae213.srv.aolmail.net> I have the pop-top enclosure and can't imagine owning a Rhodes 22 without it. I am a cruiser rather than a racer. The pop top gives protection from the elements and is easy to set up. You just throw it over the pop-top and snap it on. It folds compactly. It is possible to sail with it up. With a small heater, I often spend some cold winter nights onboard dockside. It turns the sloop into an occasional "motor sailer". Visibility is great. I got mine from GB when I bought the boat. It looks great too. Joe Riley s/v Second Wind Lake Hartwell GA. -----Original Message----- From: Cary Tolbert To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Thu, Mar 15, 2018 10:03 am Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and experiences with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? Thanks! Cary Tolbert Radford, Va "86 Rhodes 22 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Thu Mar 15 11:50:05 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:50:05 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am making an effort to help Stan so that service can be improved. I will keep you posted on my progress. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Cary Tolbert Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:35 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE Chris, Thanks for the opinion of someone that actually has experience with the pop top. I try to support Stan with the big stuff. It seems that Stan is very,very slow on replying to Emails with questions on his products. Cary On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > Stan offers a pop top enclosure that is custom fit to the Rhodes. I > currently sail on the Potomac River and do not use the enclosure > however when I sailed and anchored overnight on the Chesapeake Bay I > found the enclosure a must have item. It offers lots of extra > enclosed space for privacy and keeps the bugs out. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > Cary Tolbert > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 10:04 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE > > I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and > experiences with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be > helpful. > A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good > idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list > very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? > > Thanks! > > Cary Tolbert > Radford, Va > "86 Rhodes 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ > ____________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From Bgarrant at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 11:56:01 2018 From: Bgarrant at gmail.com (Bgarrant) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 08:56:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? Message-ID: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP extra-long shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, either Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank (permanently) expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench seat. Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in the way while sailing and motoring. And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and getting past the jetty would be very difficult. Thanks very much. Bob Garrant s/v Sail La Vie 2000 Rhodes Stevensville, MD -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Thu Mar 15 11:59:01 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:59:01 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A16C79C-36AB-4735-B45B-6F41E96F5692@sunnybeeches.com> When Stan was recycling my boat in 2016, he did not have a pop top enclosure (PTE) on hand, so I made an inquiry here on the list and purchased a used one from a member (thanks Marvin). I sent it to Stan, who made sure that snaps were installed on the cabin in the appropriate locations. Initially, I set it up every night I was at anchor. It takes me 10 - 15 minutes to set up; a little longer to take down, since it has to folded very carefully to fit in its storage bin. As time went on, I?ve used it less often. If conditions are pleasant, I just don?t bother. There?s little benefit, and I don?t mind dropping the pop top while I?m sleeping to keep dew out of the cabin. Another consideration is that the enclosure greatly reduces ventilation, even with three screened panels (two windows, and the door. But if conditions are less pleasant (cold, windy, buggy, rainy), I will gladly take the time to set it up, and like the Bimini, I consider it to be essential equipment. Unlike a Bimini, a folded PTE can be shipped pretty easily. The best sources would be Stan, or a member of this list who has one they?re willing to sell. In either case, obviously you be talking about a used piece of gear. To have a new one custom made would be pretty expensive, I?d guess. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 15, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Cary Tolbert wrote: > > I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and > experiences > with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. > A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good > idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list > very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? > > Thanks! > > Cary Tolbert > Radford, Va > "86 Rhodes 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Thu Mar 15 11:59:34 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:59:34 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I think it is safer to keep the gas tank in the cockpit. My tank is secure with a bracket that GB provided. The 5 gallon tank fits under the bench however I need to remove the gas cap to slide it in and out. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Bgarrant Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP extra-long shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, either Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank (permanently) expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench seat. Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in the way while sailing and motoring. And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and getting past the jetty would be very difficult. Thanks very much. Bob Garrant s/v Sail La Vie 2000 Rhodes Stevensville, MD -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From sundsvalla at earthlink.net Thu Mar 15 12:36:00 2018 From: sundsvalla at earthlink.net (Tex Hill) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:36:00 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We love our pop top enclosure. Your other positive responses reflect our experience so I won't add to them. We bought ours from Stan 20 years ago. We have swallowed the anchor so are ready to sell our boat. Tex Hill In God We Trust......Have a Blessed Day! > On Mar 15, 2018, at 09:03, Cary Tolbert wrote: > > I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and > experiences > with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. > A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good > idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list > very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? > > Thanks! > > Cary Tolbert > Radford, Va > "86 Rhodes 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Thu Mar 15 12:38:39 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 12:38:39 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: The aft locker is pretty open to the outside under the seats, but that?s at the top the compartment. Gas fumes being heavier than air would collect toward the bottom. For this reason, pretty much everyone would recommend against storing gasoline in the aft locker. (I?d call it the lazarette, but I don?t know how to spell it, and neither does my spell checker.) I?d find having the tank on the cockpit sole fairly intolerable, so I?d probably buy a new one that will fit under the seats. I?m pretty sure every gas tank will have a vent in the cap that can be either open or closed. This instructions will tell you to always close the vent unless the tank is connected to the motor, and the motor is running. I almost always leave mine open. I do this because I?m afraid that if I close the vent, I will forget to open it when starting the motor, and the gas-starved motor will quit at the most inconvenient time possible. However, another side benefit to always leaving the vent open is that it may prevent your gas tank from blowing up like a balloon if left in the sun. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > I think it is safer to keep the gas tank in the cockpit. My tank is secure with a bracket that GB provided. The 5 gallon tank fits under the bench however I need to remove the gas cap to slide it in and out. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Bgarrant > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? > > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP extra-long shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, either Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank (permanently) expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench seat. > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in the way while sailing and motoring. > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and getting past the jetty would be very difficult. > > Thanks very much. > Bob Garrant > s/v Sail La Vie > 2000 Rhodes > Stevensville, MD > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 13:14:57 2018 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:14:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Bob, Save your boat and get a new gas tank. If the Coast Guard patrols where you will sail, they will give you a ticket if they find a gas tank in the lazarette. If you can't prove you can operate without the tank in the lazarette, they will confiscate your boat. Rick On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > The aft locker is pretty open to the outside under the seats, but that?s > at the top the compartment. Gas fumes being heavier than air would collect > toward the bottom. For this reason, pretty much everyone would recommend > against storing gasoline in the aft locker. (I?d call it the lazarette, > but I don?t know how to spell it, and neither does my spell checker.) > > I?d find having the tank on the cockpit sole fairly intolerable, so I?d > probably buy a new one that will fit under the seats. > > I?m pretty sure every gas tank will have a vent in the cap that can be > either open or closed. This instructions will tell you to always close the > vent unless the tank is connected to the motor, and the motor is running. > I almost always leave mine open. I do this because I?m afraid that if I > close the vent, I will forget to open it when starting the motor, and the > gas-starved motor will quit at the most inconvenient time possible. > However, another side benefit to always leaving the vent open is that it > may prevent your gas tank from blowing up like a balloon if left in the sun. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On Mar 15, 2018, at 11:59 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: > > > > I think it is safer to keep the gas tank in the cockpit. My tank is > secure with a bracket that GB provided. The 5 gallon tank fits under the > bench however I need to remove the gas cap to slide it in and out. > > > > Christopher P. Cowie > > > > 700 N Fairfax Street > > Suite 304 > > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > Bgarrant > > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM > > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? > > > > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP > extra-long shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will > be sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island > Maryland. > > > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, > either Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the > stern locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a > low enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank > (permanently) expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under > the bench seat. > > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while > under way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely > gets in the way while sailing and motoring. > > > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am > supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and > getting past the jetty would be very difficult. > > > > Thanks very much. > > Bob Garrant > > s/v Sail La Vie > > 2000 Rhodes > > Stevensville, MD > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ > ____________________ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From bgarrant at gmail.com Thu Mar 15 14:08:55 2018 From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 14:08:55 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Thanks Chris I agree about the safety part so I'll give that a try and see if it fits that way. Bob On Mar 15, 2018 11:59 AM, "Chris Cowie" wrote: > I think it is safer to keep the gas tank in the cockpit. My tank is > secure with a bracket that GB provided. The 5 gallon tank fits under the > bench however I need to remove the gas cap to slide it in and out. > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > Bgarrant > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:56 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? > > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP > extra-long shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will > be sailing on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island > Maryland. > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, > either Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the > stern locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a > low enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank > (permanently) expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under > the bench seat. > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under > way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in > the way while sailing and motoring. > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am > supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and > getting past the jetty would be very difficult. > > Thanks very much. > Bob Garrant > s/v Sail La Vie > 2000 Rhodes > Stevensville, MD > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list ______________________________ > ____________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From cjlowe at sssnet.com Thu Mar 15 16:06:03 2018 From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe at sssnet.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ***POSSIBLE SPAM*** POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61531.24.140.30.102.1521144363.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com> I got the poptop when I bought my '86 in 03. Wouldn't dream of overnighting with out it. If you have bugs or it rains in your neck of the woods, its a must. It does a very good job of keeping the inside dry. It does cut down on ventilation, but it keeps the dew on the outside of the cabin. I use it with the bimini, so I can go out the door in a rain storm and roll down the side windows and leave the back window open and still not get wet. Getting stuck at anchor in the rain is a whole lot nicer with standing headroom. I'm on a small well protected lake, on calm nights, I anchor from the rear, and use the bimini as a air scoop. I also run the rode around the outside of the rigging to the front cleat, so if it gets snarky, I undo the rode at the stern cleat and let the boat swing around to weather. I highly recommend both the bimini and the poptop. Jerry Lowe Country Rhodes '86 I am considering a "pop top enclosure". I am looking for information and > experiences > with this item. Present or past "real experience" will be helpful. > A friend with a Catalina 22 has one for his boat. It seems to be a good > idea for overnights on the boat. This item does not show up on the list > very often, so will it be worth the expense and is it worth the effort? > > Thanks! > > Cary Tolbert > Radford, Va > "86 Rhodes 22 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From cjlowe at sssnet.com Thu Mar 15 16:12:21 2018 From: cjlowe at sssnet.com (cjlowe at sssnet.com) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <61536.24.140.30.102.1521144741.squirrel@quickpop.sssnet.com> My bimini mounts on cars on the jib track allowing great range of adjustment fore and aft. Jerry Lowe Cary, > > I consider my Bimini to be a piece of essential equipment on my boat, so I > think you???re on the right track to consider one for yours. > > At the moment, my Bimini is in a canvas shop getting new fabric installed, > and my boat is under about 8??? of fresh snow, so I can???t measure > anything for you, but then I???m also not sure what measurement you???re > looking for. > > When my Bimini is unfolded, the boom just barely clears it. (I have the > IMF mast/boom.) In fact sometimes if I???m close hauled in light winds, I > ???ll put some tension on the topping lift just to keep the boom clear of > the Bimini. > > As for second question, my Bimini does not have any sections of > telescoping tubing. It???s made of three fixed length U shaped tubes > which pivot, allowing it to be folded up and moved forward or aft when not > deployed. The longest U shaped tube connects to the boat forward of the > winches, the two shorter tubes connect to the longest tube. > > Disconnecting the Bimini only requires removing two short bolts. I only > do this for winter storage. > > HTH > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > >> On Mar 14, 2018, at 10:07 PM, Cary Tolbert >> wrote: >> >> Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What height >> best suits >> the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it would be similar to >> the >> conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know assume nothing. >> >> Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud >> that >> locks >> in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick locking for >> easy >> installation >> or removable of the frame? >> >> Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and >> knowledgeable people always provide. >> >> Cary Tolbert >> '86 Rhodes >> Radford, VA >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From rweiss at siu.edu Thu Mar 15 16:23:48 2018 From: rweiss at siu.edu (rweiss) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 13:23:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] POP TOP ENCLOSURE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1521145428392-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I bought my Pop Top Enclosure when I bought the boat from Stan in 2014 and I'm really glad I have it. In addition to all the same reasons others have mentioned here, I have discovered that it also keeps raccoons out of the cabin when I am sleeping overnight on the boat. On a related topic, I can also recommend the table top placed on the floor of the cockpit at night to serve as a critter alarm when sleeping aboard. A couple years ago I was staying overnight and left my Bimini up, but took my table top off the post and placed it on the floor under the Bimini because light rain was a possibility. (I was staying by myself, so I didn't need the table top for the bunk.) At 3 am, I heard a "clunk" in the cockpit, stood up and looked out the side window of the Pop Top Enclosure and was nose to nose with the raccoon who had jumped on the "teeter-totter" table top and stopped on his way out to look in the window. And finally, on a still related topic, this past Tuesday I went to check on my boat (1.5 hours away) and discovered a raccoon in the back Lazarette. He has since been caught in a live trap and removed. I just bought a couple of battery and solar operated ultrasonic devices to try to discourage boarders in the future. If anyone has better advice, please let me know. Bob ----- Bob Weiss Beach Spring 1998 Rhodes 22 Recycled in 2014 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Thu Mar 15 18:13:09 2018 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:13:09 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <3f5b5513-1e46-0788-163f-d38419c68c4a@atlanticbb.net> We had 2 three gallon tanks on Fretless (with a quick connect fitting so we could switch from one to the other easily). They were different brands and for one or them, we had to take the gas cap off to slide it under (and then put the cap back on once it was in position.) For both of them, there was more clearance under the bench seats forward so we would put them in around the middle of the cockpit and then slide them back into position. They stayed in place that way and we never had a bracket or anything else to secure them. I would not store a gas tank in the lazarette even at the dock. There is a reason power boats have blowers in the bilge. Make sure you flush the engine with freshwater after every use. Our original Honda died from salt water corrosion. We kept the boat in a slip and could not flush the motor easily and didn't really know any better. It was an expensive lesson. I believe the newer Hondas have a flushing port that is easier to reach. You are sailing in our home waters. Lots of great places to anchor our within a few hours. Enjoy! Mary Lou ex Rhodes 22 now Rosborough RF-246? Tara On 3/15/2018 11:56 AM, Bgarrant wrote: > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP extra-long > shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be sailing > on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, either > Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern > locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low > enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank (permanently) > expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench seat. > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under > way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in > the way while sailing and motoring. > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am > supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and getting > past the jetty would be very difficult. > > Thanks very much. > Bob Garrant > s/v Sail La Vie > 2000 Rhodes > Stevensville, MD > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From bgarrant at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 07:45:41 2018 From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 11:45:41 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: <3f5b5513-1e46-0788-163f-d38419c68c4a@atlanticbb.net> References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <3f5b5513-1e46-0788-163f-d38419c68c4a@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:13 PM Mary Lou Troy wrote: > We had 2 three gallon tanks on Fretless (with a quick connect fitting so > we could switch from one to the other easily). They were different > brands and for one or them, we had to take the gas cap off to slide it > under (and then put the cap back on once it was in position.) For both > of them, there was more clearance under the bench seats forward so we > would put them in around the middle of the cockpit and then slide them > back into position. They stayed in place that way and we never had a > bracket or anything else to secure them. > > I would not store a gas tank in the lazarette even at the dock. There is > a reason power boats have blowers in the bilge. > > Make sure you flush the engine with freshwater after every use. Our > original Honda died from salt water corrosion. We kept the boat in a > slip and could not flush the motor easily and didn't really know any > better. It was an expensive lesson. I believe the newer Hondas have a > flushing port that is easier to reach. > > You are sailing in our home waters. Lots of great places to anchor our > within a few hours. Enjoy! > > Mary Lou > > ex Rhodes 22 > > now Rosborough RF-246 Tara > Thanks for the advice about this Mary. I appreciate it very much. Your > Rosborough looks like a fun boat. Bob > > > On 3/15/2018 11:56 AM, Bgarrant wrote: > > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP > extra-long > > shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be > sailing > > on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. > > > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, > either > > Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern > > locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low > > enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank > (permanently) > > expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench > seat. > > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while > under > > way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets > in > > the way while sailing and motoring. > > > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am > > supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and > getting > > past the jetty would be very difficult. > > > > Thanks very much. > > Bob Garrant > > s/v Sail La Vie > > 2000 Rhodes > > Stevensville, MD > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From snstaum at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:16:05 2018 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:16:05 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini Size In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes Cary, the bimini is the 1st thing I bought after the Rhodes and it is delightful to have on those very hot summer days especially when spending multiple days on the boat. Mine also mounts on the jib car and while it does limit the jib car movement the installation is very simple. I bought it from Stan and at the time he had a lot of inventory and was giving a great deal. FYI, my 1st bimini canvass was destroyed when I lost the Carol Lee in a hurricane. The frame however was fine. I was able to buy a new canvass and cover for only $180 from a local supply store (Boats & Motors in Woburn, MA) and it fit perfectly. No need to pay for custom work. Good luck, Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 Needham, MA *Stephen Staum* *Pariser Industries, Inc.* On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:07 PM, Cary Tolbert wrote: > Fellow Rhodie's, I am considering a Bimini for my cock pit. What height > best suits > the IMF boom? From an engineering point I guess it would be similar to the > conventional mast / boom set up. Yea I know assume nothing. > > Second question, does anyone have the tube frame with the spring stud that > locks > in holes of the adjoining tube. This is for easy / quick locking for easy > installation > or removable of the frame? > > Thanks in advance for all of the good information you generous and > knowledgeable people always provide. > > Cary Tolbert > '86 Rhodes > Radford, VA > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From snstaum at gmail.com Fri Mar 16 08:24:08 2018 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:24:08 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Gas Tank storage while under way? In-Reply-To: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1521129361666-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I keep 2 - 6 gallon tanks under the cockpit seats. It is a little tight getting them in and out but the forward tank has a longer hose so I do not have to move them to use either tank. They only come out from under the seat to be refilled. I would NEVER keep a gas tank in an enclosed space on a boat. Way TOO DANGEROUS. Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 Needham, MA *Stephen Staum* *Pariser Industries, Inc.* On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:56 AM, Bgarrant wrote: > I purchased my Rhodes last year. I also purchased a new Honda 8HP > extra-long > shaft outboard. The gas tank was included with the motor. I will be sailing > on the Chesapeake Bay and the Chester River above Kent Island Maryland. > > I planned to secure the gas tank under the bench seat when under way, > either > Sailing or motoring. And. I planned to store the gas tank in the stern > locker when I am in the slip. When I first used the tank, it was a low > enough profile to secure under the bench. However, my gas tank > (permanently) > expanded after being in the sun and will no longer fit under the bench > seat. > Is it ok to store it in the stern locker (securely restrained) while under > way or should I keep it secured on the cockpit sole? It definitely gets in > the way while sailing and motoring. > > And I realize than Stan thinks I shouldn?t need a motor because I am > supposed to be sailing ... ha ha. I agree but exiting the marina and > getting > past the jetty would be very difficult. > > Thanks very much. > Bob Garrant > s/v Sail La Vie > 2000 Rhodes > Stevensville, MD > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From Wjf at me.com Fri Mar 16 11:02:51 2018 From: Wjf at me.com (Silver Bay) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:02:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] best motoring setup? Message-ID: <1521212571832-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I am looking to replace my motor with one that features best steering control and gear change. I do not have or want the extra gadgetry of linkage between rudder and motor. It may be a shaft-length issue, but my prop will hit the rudder if steering is not coordinated. But biggest problem for me is that the motor-tiller is almost vertical and difficult to reach when underway. Two questions: Are there any recommendations for a "best motor" for control, and are there any recommendations for "best" steering arrangements when motoring? In other words, does anyone have experience raising the rudder when motoring or locking the motor in fixed position with steering with rudder down? Or any other variation? -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Fri Mar 16 12:03:43 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2018 12:03:43 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] best motoring setup? In-Reply-To: <1521212571832-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1521212571832-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0A152F68-EE5B-492C-958D-EEAFA5B6C7D1@sunnybeeches.com> I have a 2016 model 8 HP Mercury outboard. The feature about that I most like is that both throttle and gear selection are integrated in a single control on the motor?s tiller arm (if that?s the term). Start in neutral gear. Twisting in one direction puts the motor in forward. Continuing to twist increases the throttle. Twist the other way to decrease the throttle, eventually returning to neutral. Continuing to twist puts the motor in reverse, and again the further you twist the greater the motor speed. I have Stan?s motor tiller link, and I find it really helps when maneuvering in tight spaces. But when I don?t need that level of control, I don?t bother to connect it. In this case, I lock the outboard so it won?t turn, and I steer with the boat?s rudder. I find this works fine. It has never occurred to me to raise the rudder and try to steer the boat by turning the outboard. I can see how this might be a useful trick in very shallow water. Other than that though, I don?t think it would be my preferred approach since the main tiller is much easier to work with than the outboard. People on the list have often said that if your rudder has been properly pulled forward (using the line that connects to the forward edge of the rudder), it will not hit the propeller. I can?t say that I know for sure that this is universally true, but it definitely true in my case. If the rudder has been pulled forward, it won?t hit the prop; if it hasn?t, it will. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Silver Bay wrote: > > I am looking to replace my motor with one that features best steering control > and gear change. I do not have or want the extra gadgetry of linkage between > rudder and motor. It may be a shaft-length issue, but my prop will hit the > rudder if steering is not coordinated. But biggest problem for me is that > the motor-tiller is almost vertical and difficult to reach when underway. > Two questions: Are there any recommendations for a "best motor" for control, > and are there any recommendations for "best" steering arrangements when > motoring? In other words, does anyone have experience raising the rudder > when motoring or locking the motor in fixed position with steering with > rudder down? Or any other variation? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From pbryanriley at gmail.com Sat Mar 17 10:56:33 2018 From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR) Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2018 08:56:33 -0600 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] any intrest in a 130 genoa? In-Reply-To: References: <1520817753173-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I'm interested too. If Stephen or Ric don't pick it up, let me know. Patrick Patrick Riley Lakewood, CO s/v Cleone On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Stephen Staum wrote: > Is the sail in decent shape? I tore mine end of last season so am looking > for a replacement that can last a couple seasons. > > Stephen > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:22 PM cjlowe wrote: > > > Last year I got a new 130 Genoa for Country Rhodes. I had the 12 year old > > sail, that the sun guard was starting to fray, restitched after the > > sailmaker used it for a pattern. $100 + shipping. > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > > -- > Stephen Staum > Pariser Industries, Inc. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From mike at traildesign.com Mon Mar 19 13:21:50 2018 From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:21:50 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Message-ID: Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas I travel to for work. I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, crap" moments. Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 From ric at stottarchitecture.com Mon Mar 19 13:26:31 2018 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:26:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome Mike Riter It?s a good boat and as forgiving as a sailboat could be to newbies. Best to you in learning and sailing. Ric Stott sv Dadventure Hampton Bays, NY Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP www.stottarchitecture.com Office 631-283-1777 Cell 516-965-3164 > On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Mike Riter wrote: > > Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled > Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. > > The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port > with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas > I travel to for work. > > I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot > of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered > about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His > well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to > me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor > recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! > > This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors > as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the > summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, > crap" moments. > > Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! > > Michael Riter > President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. > Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training > mike at traildesign.com > 678-410-8021 > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From keywestseccorp at verizon.net Mon Mar 19 13:32:59 2018 From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:32:59 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1623f5241d9-1dc7-14524@webjas-vac217.srv.aolmail.net> welcome and a good decision on boat easy to single sail built very solid and safe. the thin water keel is nice also Mark West keywestseccorp at verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Mike Riter To: Rhodes22-list Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2018 1:22 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas I travel to for work. I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, crap" moments. Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From rodellner at mac.com Mon Mar 19 13:38:14 2018 From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:38:14 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike Where in Wisconsin do you plan to be? We have our Rhodes22 on the St Croix river in Hudson WI Rod & Mary Ellner Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Richard Stott wrote: > > Welcome Mike Riter > It?s a good boat and as forgiving as a sailboat could be to newbies. > Best to you in learning and sailing. > Ric Stott > sv Dadventure > Hampton Bays, NY > > > Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP > www.stottarchitecture.com > Office 631-283-1777 > Cell 516-965-3164 > > > > > >> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Mike Riter wrote: >> >> Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled >> Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. >> >> The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port >> with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas >> I travel to for work. >> >> I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot >> of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered >> about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His >> well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to >> me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor >> recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! >> >> This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors >> as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the >> summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, >> crap" moments. >> >> Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! >> >> Michael Riter >> President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. >> Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training >> mike at traildesign.com >> 678-410-8021 >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Mon Mar 19 13:59:50 2018 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 13:59:50 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002b01d3bfac$16bd2110$44376330$@ca> Michael: Welcome to the list. Don't be concerned about making "newbie errors". With time and experience they will all give way to errors that are just stupid ones. Graham Stewart Agile. R22, 1976 Kingston Ontario Canada -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Mike Riter Sent: March 19, 2018 1:22 PM To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas I travel to for work. I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, crap" moments. Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Mar 19 14:34:37 2018 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:34:37 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to the Rhodes community. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Mike Riter Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 1:22 PM To: Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas I travel to for work. I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, crap" moments. Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Mon Mar 19 17:23:28 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 17:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <70219BAD-11B5-4F75-8052-BDD96FE10FDA@sunnybeeches.com> Welcome aboard Mike. It?s good to hear that Stan is still turning out recycled boats. I assumed he was, but he hasn?t been making many appearances here on the list lately. And, of course, I?m also happy to hear that you?ve found my YouTube videos useful. I enjoy making them, but I do so partly in the hope that they will occasionally be useful to somebody somewhere sometime. If you have questions going forward, don?t be afraid to ask them here. There lots of people who would be happy to offer their opinions. Have fun, Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) From Montesteen at comcast.net Mon Mar 19 19:37:51 2018 From: Montesteen at comcast.net (Monte) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 16:37:51 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1521502671417-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hello Mike, I am also new to the Rhodes family and live in Georgia (Woodstock, GA). I purchased ?Morning Star? (1996/recycled in 2009) in January and just put her into Lake Allatoona this weekend. It would be great to get together and sail on each other?s boats. Let me know if you want to go out before you take delivery. I?m still getting ?the feel? for her as I?ve only sailed her twice now. It?s nice to find another Georgia Rhodes owner. Reach out to me and let?s connect. Monte Steen 678-571-0672 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From daysails at aol.com Tue Mar 20 07:42:29 2018 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:42:29 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1624337be40-c8c-1805@webjas-vae091.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Mike Welcome to the list. We now have two Rhodes 22's in Athen's GA. I have my boat, Second Wind, docked on the South Carolina side of Lake Hartwell at Big Water Marina. Let me know if I can be of help in this new chapter of your life. Joe Riley -----Original Message----- From: Mike Riter To: Rhodes22-list Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2018 1:22 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Hello all. I made the (long, drawn out) decision to purchase a recycled Rhodes 22 recently and will be taking delivery of an '87 model in April. The sv Emma B will call Athens, GA her home port (can it be called a port with no body of water?), but will trailer with me to many of the epic areas I travel to for work. I'm pretty excited about this next chapter of my life. I have to give a lot of credit for this decision to Stan (of course) who has patiently answered about 1 million emails about his boats for me, and to Peter Nyberg. His well thought out and edited series of videos have been a big inspiration to me a potential solo sailor. Like Peter, I come from an avid outdoor recreation background. I do wish I had his woodworking skills though!! This is my first sail boat, and I anticipate making lots of newbie errors as I learn the lines. The Emma B will be traveling with me to WI for the summer and I plan to take a sailing course there to help limit those "oh, crap" moments. Looking forward to meeting some of you along the way! Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From daysails at aol.com Tue Mar 20 07:55:49 2018 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:55:49 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie In-Reply-To: <1521502671417-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1624343f01c-c8d-1927@webjas-vae208.srv.aolmail.net> Hi Monte, Welcome to the Georgia Rhodes family. I am in Athens GA and have my boat on lake Hartwell. I am retired from UGA and have had my boat for 8 years. I would enjoy swapping stories and seeing Morning Star. Maybe we could have a meeting of the Georgia Rhode Scholars over some libations. Best wishes on your new adventure! Joe Riley, Athens Ga -----Original Message----- From: Monte To: rhodes22-list Sent: Mon, Mar 19, 2018 7:37 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Newbie Hello Mike, I am also new to the Rhodes family and live in Georgia(Woodstock, GA). I purchased ?Morning Star? (1996/recycled in 2009) inJanuary and just put her into Lake Allatoona this weekend. It would begreat to get together and sail on each other?s boats. Let me know if youwant to go out before you take delivery. I?m stillgetting ?the feel? for her as I?ve only sailed her twice now. It?s nice tofind another Georgia Rhodes owner. Reach out to me and let?s connect.Monte Steen678-571-0672--Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/__________________________________________________To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-listFor the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list__________________________________________________ From michael.4591 at gmail.com Thu Mar 22 12:42:53 2018 From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 12:42:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] best motoring setup? In-Reply-To: <0A152F68-EE5B-492C-958D-EEAFA5B6C7D1@sunnybeeches.com> References: <1521212571832-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <0A152F68-EE5B-492C-958D-EEAFA5B6C7D1@sunnybeeches.com> Message-ID: I also use a Mercury outboard for the reasons Peter stated and last year i got the motor tiller linkage which works great. Agree with everything Peter said. I use a 9.9 hp Merc long shaft. Before adding the tiller linkage my prop has struck my rudder but the rudder was not all the way down. Make sure your rudder and motor are both fully down and motor is centered on mounting bracket. Mike S/V Ranger Hampton Roads On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > I have a 2016 model 8 HP Mercury outboard. The feature about that I most > like is that both throttle and gear selection are integrated in a single > control on the motor?s tiller arm (if that?s the term). Start in neutral > gear. Twisting in one direction puts the motor in forward. Continuing to > twist increases the throttle. Twist the other way to decrease the > throttle, eventually returning to neutral. Continuing to twist puts the > motor in reverse, and again the further you twist the greater the motor > speed. > > I have Stan?s motor tiller link, and I find it really helps when > maneuvering in tight spaces. But when I don?t need that level of control, > I don?t bother to connect it. In this case, I lock the outboard so it > won?t turn, and I steer with the boat?s rudder. I find this works fine. > It has never occurred to me to raise the rudder and try to steer the boat > by turning the outboard. I can see how this might be a useful trick in > very shallow water. Other than that though, I don?t think it would be my > preferred approach since the main tiller is much easier to work with than > the outboard. > > People on the list have often said that if your rudder has been properly > pulled forward (using the line that connects to the forward edge of the > rudder), it will not hit the propeller. I can?t say that I know for sure > that this is universally true, but it definitely true in my case. If the > rudder has been pulled forward, it won?t hit the prop; if it hasn?t, it > will. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > > On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:02 AM, Silver Bay wrote: > > > > I am looking to replace my motor with one that features best steering > control > > and gear change. I do not have or want the extra gadgetry of linkage > between > > rudder and motor. It may be a shaft-length issue, but my prop will hit > the > > rudder if steering is not coordinated. But biggest problem for me is that > > the motor-tiller is almost vertical and difficult to reach when underway. > > Two questions: Are there any recommendations for a "best motor" for > control, > > and are there any recommendations for "best" steering arrangements when > > motoring? In other words, does anyone have experience raising the rudder > > when motoring or locking the motor in fixed position with steering with > > rudder down? Or any other variation? > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From wkhalligan at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 07:47:55 2018 From: wkhalligan at gmail.com (Kevin Halligan) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:47:55 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling Rhodes 22 Message-ID: 1989 Rhodes for sale. Boat was recycled by Stan in 2005. Good condition. Navy hull with red boot stripe, newer sails, 2005 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke, Triad trailer, mast crane, shore power, cockpit cushions, solar panel, and Bimini. Asking $7800.00. Located on trailer in central Virginia. Email wkhalligan at gmail.com. From rlowe at vt.edu Sat Mar 24 10:09:02 2018 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 14:09:02 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling Rhodes 22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Kevin, Nice boat at a nice price. Have any photos? And where are you located? Rob ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Kevin Halligan Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 7:47:55 AM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling Rhodes 22 1989 Rhodes for sale. Boat was recycled by Stan in 2005. Good condition. Navy hull with red boot stripe, newer sails, 2005 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke, Triad trailer, mast crane, shore power, cockpit cushions, solar panel, and Bimini. Asking $7800.00. Located on trailer in central Virginia. Email wkhalligan at gmail.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ From wkhalligan at gmail.com Sat Mar 24 14:22:45 2018 From: wkhalligan at gmail.com (Kevin Halligan) Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:22:45 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling Rhodes 22 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rob I am in powhatan va about 1 hour west of Richmond. I have some pictures of the boat in the water on my iPhone that I can text if you provide your number. Kevin On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 10:09 AM Lowe, Rob wrote: > Kevin, > Nice boat at a nice price. Have any photos? And where are you located? Rob > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Kevin Halligan > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 7:47:55 AM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Selling Rhodes 22 > > 1989 Rhodes for sale. Boat was recycled by Stan in 2005. Good condition. > Navy hull with red boot stripe, newer sails, 2005 9.9 Yamaha 4 stroke, > Triad trailer, mast crane, shore power, cockpit cushions, solar panel, and > Bimini. Asking $7800.00. Located on trailer in central Virginia. 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Name: IMG_0092.jpg Type: image/jpg Size: 222204 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michael.4591 at gmail.com Tue Mar 27 12:43:33 2018 From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 12:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Virginian interested in a Rhodes 22 Message-ID: I keep mine at Fort Monroe in Hampton Virginia. Will have it back in water by May. Currently it is at Edenton getting bottom paint and some other minor work done. The plant still does great work! Mike Corley S/V Ranger 99 Rhodes On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:09 PM, S/V Lark wrote: > Hopefully somebody will pipe up soon. If not road trip south to the > Abermarle and Stan will teach you to refit one, or north to Annapolis. > > Alex > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5. > nabble.com/Virginian-interested-in-a-Rhodes-22-tp53710p53730.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/ > mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > From steverayj at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 14:55:07 2018 From: steverayj at hotmail.com (redneckyc) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 11:55:07 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( Message-ID: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I haven't posted here in a while but my boat has been waiting for me in storage to get it ready for the water again. My first project is to fix the spongy cockpit sole. (This boat is from early 70's). So I cut out the raised portion not really knowing what I'd find but expecting waterlogged plywood. Anyway turns out I was sure wrong. It is solid fiberglass with a box-like bulkhead structure underneath with a 2x4 going laterally. And full of pieces of foam!! So now I am going to make new bulkheads and redo and install the same piece of glass back over the new box. So the reason it was spongy was not waterlogged core as it had no core. It was delamination between the sole and the bulkheads/box. It also looks like some of the tabbing for the bulkheads has come loose. Anyway just thought I'd share how my boat was put together like 45 years ago. ----- Fair winds and following seas ..... Steve Raye -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From peter at sunnybeeches.com Sat Mar 31 15:26:21 2018 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( In-Reply-To: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Certainly not what I would expect to find. Fortunately, my cockpit sole feels quite solid, so I hope to never have a reason to take it up and find out what?s underneath. Thanks for sharing. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Mar 31, 2018, at 2:55 PM, redneckyc wrote: > > I haven't posted here in a while but my boat has been waiting for me in > storage to get it ready for the water again. My first project is to fix the > spongy cockpit sole. (This boat is from early 70's). So I cut out the raised > portion not really knowing what I'd find but expecting waterlogged plywood. > Anyway turns out I was sure wrong. It is solid fiberglass with a box-like > bulkhead structure underneath with a 2x4 going laterally. And full of pieces > of foam!! So now I am going to make new bulkheads and redo and install the > same piece of glass back over the new box. So the reason it was spongy was > not waterlogged core as it had no core. It was delamination between the sole > and the bulkheads/box. It also looks like some of the tabbing for the > bulkheads has come loose. Anyway just thought I'd share how my boat was put > together like 45 years ago. > > > > > ----- > Fair winds and following seas ..... Steve Raye > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From ric at stottarchitecture.com Sat Mar 31 16:18:20 2018 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:18:20 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( In-Reply-To: References: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <5835C5B6-E5AA-4E9B-BBB7-AEC9203F6528@stottarchitecture.com> An aye for an eye A soul for a sole Got a hand full now with that great big hole. Good luck with that. Ric sv Dadventure hampton Bays Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP www.stottarchitecture.com Office 631-283-1777 Cell 516-965-3164 > On Mar 31, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote: > > Certainly not what I would expect to find. Fortunately, my cockpit sole feels quite solid, so I hope to never have a reason to take it up and find out what?s underneath. > > Thanks for sharing. > > Peter Nyberg > Coventry, CT > s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > >> On Mar 31, 2018, at 2:55 PM, redneckyc wrote: >> >> I haven't posted here in a while but my boat has been waiting for me in >> storage to get it ready for the water again. My first project is to fix the >> spongy cockpit sole. (This boat is from early 70's). So I cut out the raised >> portion not really knowing what I'd find but expecting waterlogged plywood. >> Anyway turns out I was sure wrong. It is solid fiberglass with a box-like >> bulkhead structure underneath with a 2x4 going laterally. And full of pieces >> of foam!! So now I am going to make new bulkheads and redo and install the >> same piece of glass back over the new box. So the reason it was spongy was >> not waterlogged core as it had no core. It was delamination between the sole >> and the bulkheads/box. It also looks like some of the tabbing for the >> bulkheads has come loose. Anyway just thought I'd share how my boat was put >> together like 45 years ago. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Fair winds and following seas ..... Steve Raye >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sat Mar 31 18:06:33 2018 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 18:06:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( In-Reply-To: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <000501d3c93c$89d36670$9d7a3350$@ebsmed.com> Hi Steve, I am sailing my second Rhodes 22, a 1991 with IMF, a much better constructed version than my original Rhodes 22 (pre-IMF delivered by Stan in the spring of 1981). Both have provided many hours of pleasure and frustration. The following is from a post that I made in February 2009, before I owned the '91 R22 on a cockpit sole repair solution: Several years ago I faced a similar problem with the cockpit floor of my '81 R22. The floor had two additional major problems, both responsible for the admission of water. When the boat was new, we witnessed the development of "star burst" patterns of damage in the cockpit floor gelcoat. They were circular with radial lines extending 3 to 4 inches from the center. Over the years, water must have entered the glass layers in the floor through these defects to cause the second and more serious problem: the separation or delamination of the floor components. The freeze and thaw cycles of the NY winter increased the damage to floor, using the trapped water as a wedge. This became evident when the floor "oil canned" as a large bubble formed beneath the upper layers. This was compounded by the destruction of the foam below as water continued to pass through the floor, destroying the support system for the cockpit floor. Eventually, the top layer of the floor cracked and I was able to see into the separated layers directly. I concentrated my efforts on rebuilding the cockpit floor to take the punishment that it gets in normal use. After drilling holes in the floor to access the internal layers, I spent several months drying out the floor using acetone and fans while keeping water out of the cockpit using tarps. I added structural wood supports and plywood to the foam below the cockpit. I removed all damaged foam and replaced it. When the structure below was solid and the floor was dry, I used penetrating epoxy from West Marine to reattach the layers of glass injected through 1/8" holes, compressing the floor down using bricks on wax paper. Once that the epoxy had cured, I filled the holes and any remaining voids using 105/206/407, finishing flush with the gel coat. Because I am not skilled enough with gel coat repairs and wish to prevent a similar failure in the future, I finished the cockpit floor with "Treadmaster Original Smooth Pattern" anti-slip deck covering. It is about $150 per 3' x 4' sheet, is 1/8" thick and is secured with water proof adhesive. I used two sheets, one white and another blue, cut into each other. This restored the cockpit floor, providing a really comfortable (on the feet) polymer surface that absorbs shock well and prevent water from entering the floor. After an entire season of use, I can honestly say that it is the most comfortable cockpit floor that I have ever felt. The upkeep is easy. The surface is non-skid and soft under foot. I should have put it in years ago. A photo of the floor may be viewed in the original message at: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20090203/b248046 5/attachment.jpg Good luck restoring the cockpit sole and support. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY From steverayj at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 18:08:44 2018 From: steverayj at hotmail.com (redneckyc) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 15:08:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( In-Reply-To: <5835C5B6-E5AA-4E9B-BBB7-AEC9203F6528@stottarchitecture.com> References: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <5835C5B6-E5AA-4E9B-BBB7-AEC9203F6528@stottarchitecture.com> Message-ID: <1522534124540-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Yeah, it looks big but won't be bad to do. In my case I would have been better off not to worry about it and have some squishyness. But while I have it in a covered shed might as well get her done. ----- Fair winds and following seas ..... Steve Raye -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From steverayj at hotmail.com Sat Mar 31 19:09:34 2018 From: steverayj at hotmail.com (redneckyc) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 16:09:34 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Old R22 cockpit sole pic - I cut it out :( In-Reply-To: <1522534124540-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1522522507752-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <5835C5B6-E5AA-4E9B-BBB7-AEC9203F6528@stottarchitecture.com> <1522534124540-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1522537774052-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks for the detail on your floor project. I'm sure the freeze/thaw cycle affected mine too but for this old of boat it held together pretty well. Curious what kind of foam you used and you put it in. ----- Fair winds and following seas ..... Steve Raye -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/