[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4136, Issue 1
Richard MacArthur
richard at macarthurlawfirm.com
Fri Aug 16 23:12:28 EDT 2019
Simply install a down haul on the boom from the bottom of the boom to the bottom of the mast and your boom won’t rise up and hit the backstay. Even a simple line will do
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> 1. Re: boom hitting back stays (luis.guzman.ve)
> 2. adjusting forestay tension with GB jib furler (Jesse Shumaker)
> 3. Re: adjusting forestay tension with GB jib furler (Shawn Boles)
> 4. Re: adjusting forestay tension with GB jib furler (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> 5. Re: Motor Lift Cutout Circuit (Gmorganflier)
> 6. Re: adjusting forestay tension with GB jib furler (Jesse Shumaker)
> 7. Re: boom hitting back stays (Jesse Shumaker)
> 8. tiller extension that led to a crack in the fiberglass tiller
> (Jesse Shumaker)
> 9. Re: boom hitting back stays (Chris Cowie)
> 10. Re: tiller extension that led to a crack in the fiberglass
> tiller (mweisner at ebsmed.com)
> 11. Out haul car setup (William Fuller)
> 12. Racing (Rick Lange)
> 13. Re: Out haul car setup (Shawn Boles)
> 14. Re: Out haul car setup (Shawn Boles)
> 15. Re: Racing (Chris Geankoplis)
> 16. Out of the yard and into the water (Keith Gard)
> 17. Re: Out of the yard and into the water (Rocartfe2)
> 18. Re: Out of the yard and into the water (Lowe, Rob)
> 19. Re: Out of the yard and into the water (Chris Geankoplis)
> 20. Vang bail (S/V Lark)
> 21. Re: Racing (S/V Lark)
> 22. Last anchorage of the year (Chris Geankoplis)
> 23. Re: Last anchorage of the year (daysails at aol.com)
> 24. Re: Vang bail (Rick Lange)
> 25. Re: Last anchorage of the year (Chris Geankoplis)
> 26. Re: Vang bail (S/V Lark)
> 27. Re: Vang bail (Richard Stott)
> 28. Re: Vang bail (Shawn Boles)
> 29. Re: Vang bail (Jason Quick)
> 30. Re: Vang bail (Shawn Boles)
> 31. Re: Vang bail (Rick Lange)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2019 15:48:39 -0400
> From: "luis.guzman.ve" <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays
> Message-ID: <5d48881b.1c69fb81.630b5.f2e6 at mx.google.com>
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> How long is the standard boom from the mast to the end including all hardware?Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com> Date: 8/5/19 3:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays The standard mast and boom was provided by Dwyer, the standard Dwyer mast has two pin positions from the bottom of the mast center of pin 8" and 2'-4 3/8", the standard Dwyer boom is 9'-9" long from the front to the back of the boom not including the boom to mast hardware or the outhaul cap.Christopher P. Cowie? ??700 N Fairfax StreetSuite 304Alexandria, Virginia 22314703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]Please consider the environment before printing this email.-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter NybergSent: Monday, August 05, 2019 3:16 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back staysFrom the e
> nd cap on the aft end of my boom (i.e. ignoring the tangs), to the mast is 120.5?.? Just the aluminum extrusion (ignoring the gooseneck hardware and the end cap) is 117 1/16?.This is an IMF rig.? I can?t recall if yours is or not.PeterSent from my iPad> On Aug 4, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:> > A few updates:> - My boom extends 123" from the mast - this is in response to some of > the questions.> - Lowering the boom car so that it rests directly on top of the pop > top cover solved the issue of the boom hitting the backstays.? > Previously, there was ~1" between the boom car and the pop top car.? I > think I will drill another hole in the mast so that the boom pin can > be in the mast at this height as well.? Right now it's all resting on the pop top cover pin.> - I plan to adjust how the topping lift attaches to the boom based on > feedback from the group.> - Since the consensus is that it's fine to leave the topping lift on > an
> d just let it slack when needed, I tied on a couple of blocks and > then ran the topping lift through an unused cleat on the port side at > the front of the cockpit.? Then I can adjust the topping lift without > having to go forward and tie a cleat hitch on the horn cleat.? The new setup is convenient.> - I riveted on a eye strap to the boom in preparation for adding a vang. > I'd like the option to use that to help keep the boom down.? I know > there's been a lot of discussion about that in the past so I'll be > mining the archives for details.> > A few photos are attached.? It is a relief to have this issue resolved. > Thanks for the input!> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/LowerBoom.jpg>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/BlocksForToppingLift> .jpg> > <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ToppingLiftRanToCock> pit.jpg>> > > > --> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 17:35:06 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] adjusting forestay tension with GB jib furler
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> I believe I have the standard GB jib furler. How could I go about adjusting
> forestay tension with the setup shown in the attached photos? Or is that
> fixed and simply controlled by the angle of the mast as a result of the
> backstay tension? Or perhaps an adjustment where the forestay connects to
> the mast?
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler1.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler2.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler3.jpg>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 18:25:54 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] adjusting forestay tension with GB jib
> furler
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> Hi -
>
> I rely on the backstay tensioner.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shawn
>
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 5:33 PM Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I believe I have the standard GB jib furler. How could I go about
>> adjusting
>> forestay tension with the setup shown in the attached photos? Or is that
>> fixed and simply controlled by the angle of the mast as a result of the
>> backstay tension? Or perhaps an adjustment where the forestay connects to
>> the mast?
>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler1.jpg>
>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler2.jpg>
>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler3.jpg>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 01:24:52 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] adjusting forestay tension with GB jib
> furler
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> Jessie,
>
> You use the backstay adjuster to set the tension in the forestay. When trying to point to windward, you tighten the backstay until there is minimal sag in the forestay. When sailing downwind, you want some forestay sag ( think parachute! ). So, you let off on the backstay adjuster.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilbrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 6, 2019, at 8:16 PM, Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I rely on the backstay tensioner.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019, 5:33 PM Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe I have the standard GB jib furler. How could I go about
>>> adjusting
>>> forestay tension with the setup shown in the attached photos? Or is that
>>> fixed and simply controlled by the angle of the mast as a result of the
>>> backstay tension? Or perhaps an adjustment where the forestay connects to
>>> the mast?
>>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler1.jpg>
>>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler2.jpg>
>>> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/Furler3.jpg>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 18:08:33 -0700 (MST)
> From: Gmorganflier <gmorgan.flier at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit
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> Thanks Joe...I?ve finally got some time tomorrow to go check out my mast
> lights.
>
> George
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:07:25 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] adjusting forestay tension with GB jib
> furler
> Message-ID: <1565230045358-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
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> Thanks for the explanation. That make sense and I will use that technique.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:22:57 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays
> Message-ID: <1565230977216-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
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> It appears that my boom is a little over 6" longer than standard. As far as
> I know it came from the factory that way. As you can see from the attached
> photos, there is excess distance between the end of the main and the end of
> the boom. The Doyle sail was a replacement, but cut for a Rhodes 22. I
> suppose some day if I was getting ambitious I could shorten the boom.
> However, since lowering the boom a bit seems to solve the issue then I'll
> probably just leave it as is. After some feedback earlier in this thread,
> I've swapped out the carabiner on the end of the topping lift for a shackle
> that connects directly to the top of the end of the boom. I moved the other
> tang down so the snap shackle for the main sheet connects to both tangs.
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/mainToEndOfBoom.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/endOfBoom.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/gooseneck.jpg>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 19:32:24 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] tiller extension that led to a crack in the
> fiberglass tiller
> Message-ID: <1565231544819-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
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> My boat has a fiberglass tiller. There is a Forespar tiller extension that
> has stripped out of the tiller. There is also a small crack in the tiller
> that originates from the tiller extension.
>
> I'm considering putting in a different tiller extension that may have a more
> secure installation. If the new extension uses a larger hole then I may
> drill out the existing hole. Or I could epoxy the existing hole and drill a
> new hole.
>
> I'm concerned about the crack growing. I had considered putting something
> for extra support around the tiller extension, such as some strong tape or a
> hose clamp. The hose clamp would be strong but it would have a screw which
> could catch on things.
>
> I think the tiller extension would be really helpful to be able to hike out
> when things get lively. I would really prefer to keep the existing tiller
> as long as possible.
>
> Any suggestions before I proceed with repairs?
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tiller1.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tiller2.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tillerExtension.jpg>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:22:01 +0000
> From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays
> Message-ID: <E6AEE551-2C83-409E-A84F-C6130734D251 at cowieassociates.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Yes your boom is longer than The original standard Dwyer boom.
>
>
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> On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com<mailto:jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> It appears that my boom is a little over 6" longer than standard. As far as
> I know it came from the factory that way. As you can see from the attached
> photos, there is excess distance between the end of the main and the end of
> the boom. The Doyle sail was a replacement, but cut for a Rhodes 22. I
> suppose some day if I was getting ambitious I could shorten the boom.
> However, since lowering the boom a bit seems to solve the issue then I'll
> probably just leave it as is. After some feedback earlier in this thread,
> I've swapped out the carabiner on the end of the topping lift for a shackle
> that connects directly to the top of the end of the boom. I moved the other
> tang down so the snap shackle for the main sheet connects to both tangs.
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/mainToEndOfBoom.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/endOfBoom.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/gooseneck.jpg>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 12:24:31 -0400
> From: <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tiller extension that led to a crack in
> the fiberglass tiller
> Message-ID: <002601d54e05$c2bbd3b0$48337b10$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Jesse,
>
> The fiberglass tillers were introduced within the last few years. I would
> ask Stan if the warranty is still in effect as long as the crack is due to a
> manufacturing defect.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Jesse
> Shumaker
> Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:32 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] tiller extension that led to a crack in the
> fiberglass tiller
>
> My boat has a fiberglass tiller. There is a Forespar tiller extension that
> has stripped out of the tiller. There is also a small crack in the tiller
> that originates from the tiller extension.
>
> I'm considering putting in a different tiller extension that may have a more
> secure installation. If the new extension uses a larger hole then I may
> drill out the existing hole. Or I could epoxy the existing hole and drill a
> new hole.
>
> I'm concerned about the crack growing. I had considered putting something
> for extra support around the tiller extension, such as some strong tape or a
> hose clamp. The hose clamp would be strong but it would have a screw which
> could catch on things.
>
> I think the tiller extension would be really helpful to be able to hike out
> when things get lively. I would really prefer to keep the existing tiller
> as long as possible.
>
> Any suggestions before I proceed with repairs?
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tiller1.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tiller2.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/tillerExtension.jpg>
>
>
>
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>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:14:29 -0400
> From: William Fuller <wjf at me.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul car setup
> Message-ID: <1F6BBBE1-B65A-4B2F-816E-1CC6B10CAE5F at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Anyone have pics/suggestions about best/correct setup of outhaul car on boom and connection to mainsail clew? Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 13:32:36 -0400
> From: Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Racing
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> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:44:48 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: William Fuller <wjf at me.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul car setup
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> Here are pics from when I broke my outhaul car. Hope they help.
>
> Shawn
>
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 7:14 AM William Fuller via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have pics/suggestions about best/correct setup of outhaul car on
>> boom and connection to mainsail clew? Thanks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:47:33 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: William Fuller <wjf at me.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out haul car setup
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> Two more - Shawn
>
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 10:44 AM Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here are pics from when I broke my outhaul car. Hope they help.
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 7:14 AM William Fuller via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have pics/suggestions about best/correct setup of outhaul car on
>>> boom and connection to mainsail clew? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:03:56 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing
> Message-ID:
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> Beautiful!
> Chris G
> ENOSIS
>
>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 20:33, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> [image: RevSail2019a.jpg]
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>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Lange
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>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 14:19:11 +0200
> From: "Keith Gard" <keithwade at email.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
> Message-ID:
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 06:20:28 -0700 (MST)
> From: Rocartfe2 <Keithwade at email.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
> Message-ID: <1565702428384-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> It would seem I am no better a posting than I am at sailing
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/old_soul_in_the_slip.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----
> Keith G.
> St. Mary's County MD
> S/V Old Soul
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:24:57 +0000
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
> Message-ID:
> <BL0PR05MB539647FDBBAF13807674CD6AC1D20 at BL0PR05MB5396.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> That one worked. - rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Rocartfe2
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:20 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
>
> It would seem I am no better a posting than I am at sailing <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/old_soul_in_the_slip.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----
> Keith G.
> St. Mary's County MD
> S/V Old Soul
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:47:45 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
> Message-ID:
> <CADNTwiU5Tbj_vdzEPGegwJhsacnXgYv+TPSE5Y57R8Mfp19c7A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> It worked and is beautiful.
> Chris G
> ENOSIS
>
>> On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 at 16:25, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>> That one worked. - rob
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Rocartfe2
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:20 AM
>>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Out of the yard and into the water
>>
>>
>>
>> It would seem I am no better a posting than I am at sailing <
>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t908/old_soul_in_the_slip.jpg>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>>
>> Keith G.
>>
>> St. Mary's County MD
>>
>> S/V Old Soul
>>
>> --
>>
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:00:14 -0700 (MST)
> From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID: <1565924414543-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a bail to the
> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on the mast
> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck the
> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired. I
> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and lack the
> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to rig a
> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one of the
> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break. I
> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>
> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just looked
> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does anybody
> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:08:32 -0700 (MST)
> From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Racing
> Message-ID: <1565924912656-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Nice photo.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 09:59:27 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last anchorage of the year
> Message-ID:
> <CADNTwiVc_Gz23_3ub8X3kD6zG2bzcJSZn753X9kQxe2G1Ma3Og at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Well this year?s ride is over. Putting Enosis to bed in Prevesa in Western
> Greece. Mixed feelings. Once I can get back to the states and recover all
> my notes and down loaded pictures off my sick computer I might have a tale
> or two to share.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:25:15 +0000 (UTC)
> From: daysails at aol.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Last anchorage of the year
> Message-ID: <1175892057.168546.1565954715833 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I look forward to your reflective writing as much as your ?as it unfolds? journaling. ?You expand the sailing horizon dreams of this lake sailor by your adventures on ?my? very own boat. ?Keep sailing, keep writing. ?Thanks, ?Joe Riley Hard -a -ground in Arlington MA.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 02:59 AM
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last anchorage of the year
>
>
> Well this year?s ride is over. Putting Enosis to bed in Prevesa in Western
> Greece. Mixed feelings. Once I can get back to the states and recover all
> my notes and down loaded pictures off my sick computer I might have a tale
> or two to share.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:26:03 -0400
> From: Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID:
> <CABkv36b9H1v28j+L+A20Hx+FvHm5dBr1e+jy_h098fQNOL1XCA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I don't know what a vang can add to end-boom sheeting, especially with an
> IMF mainsail and its loose foot.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a bail to
>> the
>> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on the
>> mast
>> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck the
>> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired. I
>> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
>> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and lack the
>> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to rig a
>> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one of the
>> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break. I
>> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>>
>> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just looked
>> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does anybody
>> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Alex Cole
>> S/V Lark
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 19:40:04 +0300
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>,
> daysails at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Last anchorage of the year
> Message-ID:
> <CADNTwiXt8Nt+MH_NcTg8yRBocO=o7QeKerH=T6D7C-g+fHpXDA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Thanks Joe,
> Sharing is such a pleasure with the group and my
> family. Plus if I write it down I won?t forget the details. Couldn?t find
> the truck keys for a week, gave up looking when I remembered I live on
> boats and sold the damn thing. (Grin). I?ll send a near final picture
> shortly.
>
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS
>
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 14:25, Sling via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> I look forward to your reflective writing as much as your ?as it unfolds?
>> journaling. You expand the sailing horizon dreams of this lake sailor by
>> your adventures on ?my? very own boat. Keep sailing, keep writing.
>> Thanks, Joe Riley Hard -a -ground in Arlington MA.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>
>> Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2019 02:59 AM
>>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Last anchorage of the year
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Well this year?s ride is over. Putting Enosis to bed in Prevesa in Western
>>
>> Greece. Mixed feelings. Once I can get back to the states and recover all
>>
>> my notes and down loaded pictures off my sick computer I might have a tale
>>
>> or two to share.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Geankoplis
>>
>> ENOSIS
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 26
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:13:50 -0700 (MST)
> From: S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID: <1565975630362-0.post at n5.nabble.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Rick
>
> My concern is the tendency of the boom to lift on a run. Running the
> traveler all the way to the end and having the boom in the raised position
> so the sheet provides more downward force helps some. I'm sure I would
> pick a course closer to a reach if I was on big water, to gain speed, even
> if it meant jibing to get to my destination. In confined spaces there are
> times where a run is the most practical course. I think the lack of
> significant waves also makes sail shape more relevant on small water. When
> I've been on Erie or Michigan I found the waves would frustratingly keep
> bouncing the sail out of shape if the wind is moderate. You likely have
> far more hours on open water, does this match your observations?
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> -----
> Alex Cole
> S/V Lark
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:11:24 -0400
> From: Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID:
> <68511B11-A9CE-42C2-B4E2-6517D313F64E at stottarchitecture.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> The vang can be a very important sail control for any point of sail other than close-hauled.
> I love using mine for broad reaching and dead down- wing-n-wing.
> Last year someone mentioned webbing straps with grommets at the mast step.
> I bought some webbing and grommets for a few bucks.
> The boat came with a simple vang that my dad used for a boom preventer.
> Like most Rhodes - there was a bail on the boom but nothing to attach a vang to at the mast.
> It works great.
> Ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office 631-283-1777
> Cell 516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I don't know what a vang can add to end-boom sheeting, especially with an
>> IMF mainsail and its loose foot.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Rick Lange
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a bail to
>>> the
>>> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on the
>>> mast
>>> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck the
>>> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired. I
>>> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
>>> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and lack the
>>> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to rig a
>>> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one of the
>>> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break. I
>>> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>>>
>>> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just looked
>>> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does anybody
>>> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Alex Cole
>>> S/V Lark
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 28
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:38:34 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID:
> <CAMzGxuPg-=11ad5vVW+g+AbTk-Y+u0w2xNuFF-kK8z7UEWQhsA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Ric -
>
> Got any pictures?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:11 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The vang can be a very important sail control for any point of sail
>> other than close-hauled.
>> I love using mine for broad reaching and dead down- wing-n-wing.
>> Last year someone mentioned webbing straps with grommets at the mast step.
>> I bought some webbing and grommets for a few bucks.
>> The boat came with a simple vang that my dad used for a boom preventer.
>> Like most Rhodes - there was a bail on the boom but nothing to attach a
>> vang to at the mast.
>> It works great.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays
>>
>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>> Office 631-283-1777
>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> I don't know what a vang can add to end-boom sheeting, especially with an
>>> IMF mainsail and its loose foot.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Rick Lange
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a bail to
>>>> the
>>>> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on the
>>>> mast
>>>> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck the
>>>> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired. I
>>>> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
>>>> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and lack
>> the
>>>> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to rig a
>>>> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one of
>> the
>>>> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break.
>> I
>>>> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>>>>
>>>> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just
>> looked
>>>> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does
>> anybody
>>>> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Alex Cole
>>>> S/V Lark
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 29
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:41:03 -0400
> From: Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
> Message-ID:
> <CAGe2k8MyALPsPHZ5BxN0jJPEwAVx5FDXz1L-hx7N141peDO19w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I no longer have my Rhodes but you really want a vang on pretty much any
> boat, the R22 is no exception.
>
> In my case I was able to get a bail at the mast foot through the mast bolt
> (which I replaced with a 1" longer one) by slightly enlarging the holes in
> the bail and I attached on the boom side using the usual through-bolting
> method. From a beam reach to a run being able to control sail twist and
> thus either power up or depower the main adds significantly to the range of
> conditions the boat is sailable in. I got my R22 second hand but would be
> surprised to learn that a vang is not a standard feature.
>
> --Jason
> Former owner of S/V Cato
> (presently sailing a C22)
>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:29 PM Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ric -
>>
>> Got any pictures?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Shawn
>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:11 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The vang can be a very important sail control for any point of sail
>>> other than close-hauled.
>>> I love using mine for broad reaching and dead down- wing-n-wing.
>>> Last year someone mentioned webbing straps with grommets at the mast
>> step.
>>> I bought some webbing and grommets for a few bucks.
>>> The boat came with a simple vang that my dad used for a boom preventer.
>>> Like most Rhodes - there was a bail on the boom but nothing to attach a
>>> vang to at the mast.
>>> It works great.
>>> Ric
>>> sv Dadventure
>>> Hampton Bays
>>>
>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what a vang can add to end-boom sheeting, especially with
>> an
>>>> IMF mainsail and its loose foot.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Lange
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a bail
>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on
>> the
>>>>> mast
>>>>> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck the
>>>>> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired.
>> I
>>>>> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
>>>>> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and
>> lack
>>> the
>>>>> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to rig
>> a
>>>>> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one of
>>> the
>>>>> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break.
>>> I
>>>>> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>>>>>
>>>>> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just
>>> looked
>>>>> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does
>>> anybody
>>>>> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Alex Cole
>>>>> S/V Lark
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 30
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:51:58 -0700
> From: Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
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> Nicely put. I lake sail in 3-16 knot winds. The combination of mainsheet
> tension and Stan's amazing traveler works for me. Your argument for a vane
> makes perfect sense in more stringent conditions.
>
> Cheers ,
>
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:41 AM Jason Quick <jason_q at jasonquick.com> wrote:
>>
>> I no longer have my Rhodes but you really want a vang on pretty much any
>> boat, the R22 is no exception.
>>
>> In my case I was able to get a bail at the mast foot through the mast bolt
>> (which I replaced with a 1" longer one) by slightly enlarging the holes in
>> the bail and I attached on the boom side using the usual through-bolting
>> method. From a beam reach to a run being able to control sail twist and
>> thus either power up or depower the main adds significantly to the range of
>> conditions the boat is sailable in. I got my R22 second hand but would be
>> surprised to learn that a vang is not a standard feature.
>>
>> --Jason
>> Former owner of S/V Cato
>> (presently sailing a C22)
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:29 PM Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ric -
>>>
>>> Got any pictures?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Shawn
>>> s/v Sweet Baboo
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 10:11 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The vang can be a very important sail control for any point of sail
>>>> other than close-hauled.
>>>> I love using mine for broad reaching and dead down- wing-n-wing.
>>>> Last year someone mentioned webbing straps with grommets at the mast
>>> step.
>>>> I bought some webbing and grommets for a few bucks.
>>>> The boat came with a simple vang that my dad used for a boom preventer.
>>>> Like most Rhodes - there was a bail on the boom but nothing to attach a
>>>> vang to at the mast.
>>>> It works great.
>>>> Ric
>>>> sv Dadventure
>>>> Hampton Bays
>>>>
>>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know what a vang can add to end-boom sheeting, especially
>> with
>>> an
>>>>> IMF mainsail and its loose foot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Lange
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:57 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought a Vang this spring on sale. I wanted to through bolt a
>> bail
>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> boom and get a couple short straps with eyes to hook to the bolt on
>>> the
>>>>>> mast
>>>>>> step, so I could mount a vang when the top was down , or just tuck
>> the
>>>>>> straps under the mast and leave the Vang in the drawer as desired.
>>> I
>>>>>> think somebody did something similar in the archives. I have been
>>>>>> hesitant, mostly because I didn?t want to stress the gooseneck and
>>> lack
>>>> the
>>>>>> engineering to know the consequences. I short tack too much to
>> rig
>>> a
>>>>>> preventer style line with a fuse. If nothing else the Vang is one
>> of
>>>> the
>>>>>> few original parts on my alternate boat, therefore overdue to break.
>>>> I
>>>>>> know it wasn?t money wasted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> APS decided nautical fashion is more lucrative then sailing. I just
>>>> looked
>>>>>> at their 25% off everything sale and began to think again. Does
>>>> anybody
>>>>>> have feedback? What is the diameter of the boom extrusion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Alex Cole
>>>>>> S/V Lark
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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> Message: 31
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:57:42 -0400
> From: Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Vang bail
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> Alex,
>
> For wing-on-wing sailing, I rig a preventer by running the main outhaul
> line from the boom forward cleat to the ring for sheeting the genny clew
> inboard. The ring is moved completely forward on the track.
>
> Generally, waves and wind go together. Also, a vang pulled so tight it
> absolutely flattens the sail is not really going to be much help anyway.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM S/V Lark <Colealexander at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> My concern is the tendency of the boom to lift on a run. Running the
>> traveler all the way to the end and having the boom in the raised position
>> so the sheet provides more downward force helps some. I'm sure I would
>> pick a course closer to a reach if I was on big water, to gain speed, even
>> if it meant jibing to get to my destination. In confined spaces there
>> are
>> times where a run is the most practical course. I think the lack of
>> significant waves also makes sail shape more relevant on small water.
>> When
>> I've been on Erie or Michigan I found the waves would frustratingly keep
>> bouncing the sail out of shape if the wind is moderate. You likely have
>> far more hours on open water, does this match your observations?
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Alex Cole
>> S/V Lark
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>
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