[Rhodes22-list] hatch on foredeck

[Chris Geankoplis]

To all you restorers, I am in awe of all you guys.  Amazing.  I hadn't
realized there were so many....what's the word.......inspired sailors out
there.
Chris Geankoplis
Member:
S.P.C.R..................Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Rhodes
A.V.RA.................. Anti-Vivisection of Rhodes Association


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:12 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Mike:
>
> Your advice is totally rational but, unfortunately, for some of us a
> rational approach to boat restoration just gets ignored. Hence, we do it -
> repeatedly.
>
> My advice is that you should not undertake a rebuild just because you want
> a better boat. If that is your motivation you probably will not finish. It
> takes forever and probably cost far more than simply buying a boat in
> better condition.
>
> There are only two good reasons to undertake a major restoration:
> 1. you actually enjoy the process regardless of how long, expensive and/or
> painful it is, or
> 2, you believe that boats feel pain and are unhappy in their current
> condition.
>
> If both conditions apply, you have no choice. We are more to be pitied
> than scorned.
>
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of mweisner at ebsmed.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 12:28 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hatch on foredeck
>
> Graham & James,
>
> I agree on removing the floatation foam in the bow.  At least you would
> have room to work.
>
> After rebuilding my '81 R22 (replacing the cabin sole, interior structural
> members as well as the cockpit floor due to oil canning and delamination),
> I swore that I would NEVER do that much work on an old boat again ... until
> I purchased my '91 Rhodes.  The '91 had significant storm damage after
> being demasted and partially submerged in salt water for some time.  She
> had rolled to port and was held under by the dock lines.  Yes, I sold the
> '81 and started all over again on the new to me '91.  She sails beautifully
> and was worth the restoration effort.
>
> The Rhodes 22 is virtually indestructible (with proper restoration) and we
> are totally bonkers.  The moral of the story is to buy a Rhodes 22 in
> relatively good condition and GO SAILING ... life is too short to repeat
> such mistakes.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Graham Stewart
> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 11:37 AM
> To: 'James Nichols' <jfn302 at yahoo.com>; 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] hatch on foredeck
>
> James:
>
> Sounds like a good strategy that will have a number of advantages to my
> approach. With adequate core material properly bonded to the deck skin
> there should be no need for the liner. In fact, I found that with my boat
> the core and liner was not bonded anywhere making the liner of little
> structural use anyway.
>
> The hard part is finding a way to work in such a confined area. I had to
> do that to join and fair the liner at the seam and that was a pain even
> though it was where I had the most room. Because I had removed the main
> bulkhead I was able to place a strip of plywood to bridge the space between
> the V-birth and a chair in the main cabin and then use that as a bed to lay
> on. But that would not help you get into the bow. Just getting into the bow
> area to replace deck hardware nuts and to fiberglass the hull-deck joint
> was difficult.
>
> Turning the boat over would make it easier to work with but would not give
> you more headroom. Actually I did that for another boat restoration I did
> so flipping the boat is quite feasible. I built a big crate for the boat
> that held it steady while I then turned the boat using come along winches
> and foam blocks to cushion the fall once the boat passed the balance point.
> I have pictures if you are interested.
>
> I wonder if it wouldn't be more feasible to remove (and later replace) the
> flotation in the bow of the boat? You might then use some plywood for a
> platform to work from. Even a few inches would make a big difference. I
> think this would be the approach I would take if I were to lose my mind and
> do it again.
>
> Good luck. Let us  know how it works out.
>
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
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