[Rhodes22-list] hatch on foredeck

[Mark Whipple]

I've completely renovated a 28' Person Triton and done substantial work on
numerous other boats. I think in most cases it's true that it's cheaper to
buy someone else's renovations than to do them yourself, even if you don't
consider the value of your time. The same is usually true of a house: if
you redo your kitchen, it will probably increase the value of your house by
not as much as you spent on your kitchen. An individual boat owner usually
doesn't do renovations to make a profit, you do them because they provide
some sort of value to you. Hey, if you look at it from a strictly economic
perspective, owning a boat is never going to provide a monetary return on
your investment.

General Boats is in a very different position than an individual boat
owner. GB has much more experience and some economies of scale, so it make
more sense for Stan to renovate boats for resale. It would not surprise me
if the profit margins were modest in any case. GB creates their own market
for their unique product whereas an individual boat owner is just one of
many selling a used boat. Many folks would rather have a business that will
stand behind their product than a random individual.

All boats need work. My dentist recently bought a new 42' sailboat and had
a long list of items that need fixing. The calculation for me comes down to
this: am I willing to do the work that the boat needs to bring it up to the
condition you feel it should be in? When I asked myself this question
regarding my 30' Nimble yawl, the answer was "no" so I put her up for sale
and bought an R22 that I was willing to maintain. That calculation is
different for everyone.

Mark Whipple
Boston, MA

2000 R22
1986 Nimble 30 yawl (for sale)
1987 Hutchins Compac 16

On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 10:59 AM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> For some, the greatest pleasure of a trip is the journey.  For others, the
> greatest pleasure is reaching the destination.  For the journey types, the
> process of rehabilitating an old boat can be its own reward.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 11:40 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > MJM gave me sound advice early on. I'm paraphrasing here (I saved the
> email
> > but hsve time to look for it)
> > He said.... If you consider the time, money and aggravation involved with
> > rebuilding and restoring an older boat; especially a Rhodes 22 with all
> of
> > its one-of-a-kind and one-off parts, your time and money would be better
> > spent buying a new boat or at least, one that needs less work.
> >
> > I have taken two Rhodes 22s to the dump. I have videos saved somewhere of
> > the guys on the big earth movers racing to see who could crush them
> first.
> >
> >
> > tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 8:53 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > The rebuild skills of this group of skippers bodes well for the future
> of
> > > our fleet when GB may eventually not have the capability.  The business
> > > model has thrived well under Stan's excellent leadership and business
> > > acumen. Think about it, just building one fixture, the boom room and
> > covers
> > > has been totally satisfying for me, especially having such satisfaction
> > of
> > > client skippers.
> > > Best,Art
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
> > >   On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 8:37 PM, Jesse Shumaker<
> > > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:   Restorers, thanks for sharing
> > > all the hard won experience on the topic of
> > > overhauling the foredeck.  Very impressive work on formidable projects!
> > >
> > > I echo Chris's sentiments.  Count me in as another member of of the
> > > S.P.C.R.
> > > and A.V.R.A.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
>