[Rhodes22-list] Silicone sealant used on cabin windows

Thu Jan 10 23:41:18 EST 2019

What is being referred to here "We use a foam as a gasket"? I am interested.
The silicone I used for my windows was Dow Corning 791.

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario

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OK, I can't take it any more.  We use a foam as a gasket under pressure so
it will expand to fill voids.  Never any type of sealants.  If you insist on
a sealant, put on a lot. Screw the window gently in place.  Clean up any
excess.  Come back later when the sealant has set up and formed its own
shaped gasket, and finish installing the port.

On 1/10/19 6:25 PM, mweisner at ebsmed.com<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

The problem with the silicone sealant is that it is meant to used as a
compression gasket material.  The port light plastic tends to pull away from
the complex curves of the fiberglass surface since the materials expand and
contract at different rates.  The plastic fails to compress the silicone
over time and the seal fails.  The silicone material may last 50 years but,
in my experience, the seal fails in 3 to 4 years.

An alternative sealant suggested by Rummy for the hull joint but may work
fine here is as follows (thank you Graham):

For those who want more information on the sealant Rummy used for his deck

hull join now called Master Seal NP-1 (formerly Sonolastic NP 1) the spec

sheet is available here:

http://assets.master-builders-solutions.basf.com/Shared%20Documents/EB%20Con

struction%20Chemcials%20-%20US/Construction%20Systems/Data%20Guides/MasterSe

al/basf-masterseal-np-1-tds.pdf .   (Note: The link is still valid on
1-10-19, copy attached)

The sealant seems to have all of the properties that would be advisable for

such an application such as high flexibility, can be immersed in water,

tenacious, sticks to anything and is available in a range of colours such as

off white. It appears to be available at Home Depot and is much cheaper than

the traditional marine sealants.

It is not clear that Beckson Marine would recommend it but it probably
wouldn't hurt the plastic.

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

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Art, Beckson Marine who makes port lights says to use ONLY 100% silicone
sealant. On my '86, Beckson is the name on the frames. Their think (as
posted) says most sealants will only last 10 years and that silicone should
last over 50 years. This is their business, so my guess would be to follow
their advice.

Cary

S/V Whisper '86

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:41 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
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rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> wrote:

Guys,One of our veteran skippers may know the special sealant which is

used on the windows on our boat. It is unique because of the material

used to make the window frame. Anyone recall?Art

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