From boendert at me.com Mon Jul 1 15:05:20 2019 From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Instagram Pictures In-Reply-To: <1561906600803-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1561820014556-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1561906600803-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I have hashtaged many pictures on Instagram/FB over the years. It?s a great way to see pictures from all over. I?m not a big social media guy, but I enjoy Instagram/FB platforms for exchanging pictures and information about my boat much better than searching through an email list. Cheers, Ted S/V AIRPOWER 1991/2013 R22 Jacksonville, FL > On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:56 AM, S/V Lark wrote: > > There is also a slide show we put together for the Annapolis party a couple > years ago, plus all that Chris Geankoplis?s Enosis has done since. It > would be good to compile fun and repair photos in an easy format owners and > casual browsers could find. > > To back up the need DJ identified, I?m inland in powerboat territory and > used to be even more so in Indiana. I had identified the limitations of my > Bucc18, and found I was sailing less due to ramp lines and weather concerns. > Visiting marinas on vacation was biased toward big boats that need lifts. > I visited a now defunct sailboat shop when traveling to another state and > found boats that sort of met most of my goals. I had never seen a R22 in > the fiberglass when it made my short list. Ted?s AirPower videos > introduced me to the design. I memorized Stan?s aging website and the > ancient photos in the owners? site. Then Jerry invited me for a sail on > Country Rhodes. I was primed when I visited Stan, even though that trip > didn?t go swimmingly (no wind, heat and uptight transplanted New York racers > had dibs to the marina, their snob wives especially annoying my GF). > Modern photos and video clips, as well as preserved old ones, would help > promote the class and benefit owners that are considering selling for > whatever reason. I?ll leave it to others to devise the format but would > be proud to include what I have of the Lark. > > Alex > > > > ----- > Alex Cole > S/V Lark > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From retiredtoby at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 15:26:36 2019 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:26:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Instagram WHO CARES Message-ID: The reason auto companies run pictured ads ,is not to sell you a car, but to make you satisfied about your purchase decision. To each his/her own. Go sail and enjoy your Rhodes 22. From steven.w.bauman at nasa.gov Mon Jul 1 16:47:55 2019 From: steven.w.bauman at nasa.gov (Bauman, Steven W. (GRC-LMT0)) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:47:55 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis Sailboat Show Message-ID: I'm thinking of attending the Annapolis show for a day, for the first time. Can anyone give me a bit of advice about how to plan for this? In particular, should I make a hotel reservation now? And where would be best? Thanks. Steve "Misty Anne" of Sandusky Bay, Marblehead, Ohio From rca02536 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 17:43:38 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 17:43:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib Message-ID: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic sections connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an est). The screws are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the track. I am going to replace the screws. For anyone with experience with this, would it be best to replace existing screws with like new screws, replace the screws with the same size, but 1? long, or replace screws with the next larger size and he same 7/8? length. Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line out of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) tries to wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling the jib virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and manually unwrap the line and fork. Any ideas? Bob Allen S/V air force Falmouth, MA From djbaines05 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 20:18:50 2019 From: djbaines05 at gmail.com (David Baines) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 20:18:50 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Instagram WHO CARES In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cary, I guess that explains why you haven?t accepted my follow request ;) I had a blast out yesterday afternoon. In short order, I?ve perfected the tiller between my legs, beer in my left hand, and right hand free to snap an occasional photo to post later or waive to bikini clad ladies who are undoubtedly impressed by my floppy hat and seamanship. I?ll send ya the pics! DJ On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:26 PM Cary Tolbert wrote: > The reason auto companies run pictured ads ,is not to sell you a car, but > to make you satisfied about your purchase decision. > To each his/her own. Go sail and enjoy your Rhodes 22. > From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 22:44:41 2019 From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 22:44:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> Message-ID: Buy a new furling system While the original is very creative it is a pain to dissemble and reassemble and hard to repair On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Robert Allen wrote: > I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. > > Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic sections > connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an est). The screws > are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the track. I am going to > replace the screws. For anyone with experience with this, would it be best > to replace existing screws with like new screws, replace the screws with > the same size, but 1? long, or replace screws with the next larger size and > he same 7/8? length. > > Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line out > of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) tries to > wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling the jib > virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and manually unwrap the > line and fork. Any ideas? > > Bob Allen > > S/V air force > Falmouth, MA > > > From retiredtoby at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 08:24:19 2019 From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 08:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Instagram WHO CARES In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No thanks! On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:19 PM David Baines wrote: > Cary, I guess that explains why you haven?t accepted my follow request ;) I > had a blast out yesterday afternoon. In short order, I?ve perfected the > tiller between my legs, beer in my left hand, and right hand free to snap > an occasional photo to post later or waive to bikini clad ladies who are > undoubtedly impressed by my floppy hat and seamanship. I?ll send ya the > pics! > > DJ > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:26 PM Cary Tolbert wrote: > > > The reason auto companies run pictured ads ,is not to sell you a car, but > > to make you satisfied about your purchase decision. > > To each his/her own. Go sail and enjoy your Rhodes 22. > > > From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Tue Jul 2 14:00:36 2019 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 14:00:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> Message-ID: <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> For what it is worth I replaces my ancient Cruising Design furling system with the Schafer Snap Furl. While I am quite satisfied with this system I have no experience with any of the others to draw comparisons with. Graham Graham Stewart Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 Kingston Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Talbot Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:45 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib Buy a new furling system While the original is very creative it is a pain to dissemble and reassemble and hard to repair On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Robert Allen wrote: > I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. > > Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic sections > connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an est). The screws > are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the track. I am going to > replace the screws. For anyone with experience with this, would it be best > to replace existing screws with like new screws, replace the screws with > the same size, but 1? long, or replace screws with the next larger size and > he same 7/8? length. > > Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line out > of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) tries to > wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling the jib > virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and manually unwrap the > line and fork. Any ideas? > > Bob Allen > > S/V air force > Falmouth, MA > > > From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Tue Jul 2 14:03:21 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:03:21 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> Message-ID: I suggest you consider replacing with a standard CDI furler http://www.sailcdi.com/flexible-furlers Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:01 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib For what it is worth I replaces my ancient Cruising Design furling system with the Schafer Snap Furl. While I am quite satisfied with this system I have no experience with any of the others to draw comparisons with. Graham Graham Stewart Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 Kingston Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Talbot Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:45 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib Buy a new furling system While the original is very creative it is a pain to dissemble and reassemble and hard to repair On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Robert Allen wrote: > I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. > > Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic > sections connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an > est). The screws are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the > track. I am going to replace the screws. For anyone with experience > with this, would it be best to replace existing screws with like new > screws, replace the screws with the same size, but 1? long, or replace > screws with the next larger size and he same 7/8? length. > > Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line > out of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) > tries to wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling > the jib virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and > manually unwrap the line and fork. Any ideas? > > Bob Allen > > S/V air force > Falmouth, MA > > > From rlowe at vt.edu Tue Jul 2 14:16:03 2019 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:16:03 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> Message-ID: Mine has got the CDI furler on it. I believe it's the FF2?? - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Chris Cowie Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:03 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib I suggest you consider replacing with a standard CDI furler http://www.sailcdi.com/flexible-furlers Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Graham Stewart Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:01 PM To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib For what it is worth I replaces my ancient Cruising Design furling system with the Schafer Snap Furl. While I am quite satisfied with this system I have no experience with any of the others to draw comparisons with. Graham Graham Stewart Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 Kingston Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Talbot Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:45 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib Buy a new furling system While the original is very creative it is a pain to dissemble and reassemble and hard to repair On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Robert Allen wrote: > I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. > > Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic > sections connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an > est). The screws are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the > track. I am going to replace the screws. For anyone with experience > with this, would it be best to replace existing screws with like new > screws, replace the screws with the same size, but 1? long, or replace > screws with the next larger size and he same 7/8? length. > > Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line > out of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) > tries to wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling > the jib virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and > manually unwrap the line and fork. Any ideas? > > Bob Allen > > S/V air force > Falmouth, MA > > > From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Tue Jul 2 15:21:27 2019 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 19:21:27 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> , Message-ID: I have a Harken Unit 0 roller furler. I?ve had it ~25 years with zero issues. It has upper and lower swivels and I had a 150% Genoa made with a foam luff pad to take advantage of the swivels. I?m pretty happy with my Harken. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > Mine has got the CDI furler on it. I believe it's the FF2?? - rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Chris Cowie > Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 2:03 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib > > I suggest you consider replacing with a standard CDI furler > > http://www.sailcdi.com/flexible-furlers > > > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Graham Stewart > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 2:01 PM > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib > > For what it is worth I replaces my ancient Cruising Design furling system with the Schafer Snap Furl. While I am quite satisfied with this system I have no experience with any of the others to draw comparisons with. > Graham > > Graham Stewart > Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 > Kingston Ontario > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David Talbot > Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 10:45 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib > > Buy a new furling system > While the original is very creative it is a pain to dissemble and reassemble and hard to repair > > >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Robert Allen wrote: >> >> I have a GB roller furling jib system that has issues. >> >> Issue 1: The furling tube is attached to the forestay by plastic >> sections connected by #8 x7/8? stainless steel screws. (#8 is an >> est). The screws are backing out, allowing the jib to slip out of the >> track. I am going to replace the screws. For anyone with experience >> with this, would it be best to replace existing screws with like new >> screws, replace the screws with the same size, but 1? long, or replace >> screws with the next larger size and he same 7/8? length. >> >> Issue 2: When setting the jib, the fork which guides the furling line >> out of the line guard (lower cylinder around which the line wraps) >> tries to wrap around the line guard thereby making setting or furling >> the jib virtually impossible unless you head up to the bow and >> manually unwrap the line and fork. Any ideas? >> >> Bob Allen >> >> S/V air force >> Falmouth, MA >> >> >> > From dunaske at hotmail.com Tue Jul 2 22:39:44 2019 From: dunaske at hotmail.com (Bill1972) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 19:39:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? Message-ID: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Is there anyone near Fort Lauderdale with a Rhodes 22? My wife and I want to see one before we start traveling too far to look for boats that are for sale. I?ll buy you lunch if we can see your boat ? -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From keywestseccorp at verizon.net Wed Jul 3 08:15:27 2019 From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 12:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <613976115.1512155.1562156127291@mail.yahoo.com> were in Hertford Nc about 8 miles from the Rhodes plant if Stan doesn't have a demo boat ready? you can look at his inventory and? we can take you out on our R22 ? Mark? -----Original Message----- From: Bill1972 To: rhodes22-list Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2019 10:39 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? Is there anyone near Fort Lauderdale with a Rhodes 22? My wife and I want to see one before we start traveling too far to look for boats that are for sale. I?ll buy you lunch if we can see your boat ? -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From gjnovotny at comcast.net Wed Jul 3 10:30:05 2019 From: gjnovotny at comcast.net (gjnovotny at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:30:05 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <014901d531ab$cf99f600$6ecde200$@comcast.net> Bill, I have a Rhodes 22 sitting on a trailer in my back yard. I live about 100 miles from you in Fort Pierce. I bought a bigger boat two years ago and I haven?t used the Rhodes since then. My wife is nagging me to sell it but I've been procrastinating. My boat is an older 1978, but most of the typical issues have already been repaired such as compression post, centerboard trunk and centerboard, electrical system totally redone, all delamination issues repaired with biaxial and epoxy resin. Main sail replaced in 2016. Jib is old but serviceable. Roller furling system replaced in 2015. Engine is a 2013 9.8 tohatsu long shaft, bouth in 2014. Trailer was replaced in 2016, purchased as a refurb from general boats. Regards, Gary Gary J. Novotny Delo Medical Associates 514 SE Port Saint Lucie Blvd Port Saint Lucie Florida, 34984 772-971-5753 -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Bill1972 Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:40 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? Is there anyone near Fort Lauderdale with a Rhodes 22? My wife and I want to see one before we start traveling too far to look for boats that are for sale. I?ll buy you lunch if we can see your boat ? -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ews1esq at yahoo.com Wed Jul 3 13:52:30 2019 From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (ews1esq at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:52:30 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1562176350704-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Bill, I have a 1995 Rhodes 22 which has been renovated twice by General Boats, once in 2004 when I bought it, and again in 2016. She is in her slip on Causeway Island (Hutchinson Island) in Fort Pierce. If you want to make the trip up [100 miles?], let me know. Eric Smith 973 978 7994 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From dunaske at hotmail.com Wed Jul 3 21:48:44 2019 From: dunaske at hotmail.com (Bill1972) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:48:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <014901d531ab$cf99f600$6ecde200$@comcast.net> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <014901d531ab$cf99f600$6ecde200$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1562204924282-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I?m interested if you sell. Could I bother you for some recent pictures? You can send them to dunaske at hotmail.com or WhatsApp at (239) 601-3367. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From dunaske at hotmail.com Wed Jul 3 21:49:23 2019 From: dunaske at hotmail.com (Bill1972) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 18:49:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <613976115.1512155.1562156127291@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <613976115.1512155.1562156127291@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1562204963198-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thank you. I?ll look you up if I?m over that way. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 4 01:14:35 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 22:14:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Message-ID: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi, We just purchased a Rhodes 22 (1988, refurbed in 2008). Unfortunately, the previous owner lost some of the General Boat furler parts while replacing the broken stay and having a smaller Genoa made. All we have is the long metal pole with the open rope drum on the bottom of it (picture attached below). I sent a some emails to GB a couple of weeks ago but understandably they have not been returned. I designed a part for the top of the pole that I think will work well but it makes sense to see what the design is supposed to be plus how the furler is rigged with a sail. Does anyone have pictures they could send me showing the parts and how the GB furler is rigged? Even better if someone has upgraded their furler and wants to sell some parts. Thanks and thanks for all of the useful information posted on this site. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 4 14:56:55 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:56:55 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Perhaps this is an older GB furler or a very early CDI design. Attached is the top of the pole showing the channel for the sail luff. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 17:47:27 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 23:47:27 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med Message-ID: July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together and I have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the document I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip and covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come along....sometime. Link to 1969 Vayu Story https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing Chris Geankoplis ENOSIS I -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1034434 bytes Desc: not available URL: From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 18:17:11 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 22:17:11 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: [Image] [Image] [Image] Ken, The first picture you sent looks to me like a headsail furler, but the second picture looks like the mainsail furler (or pole - whatever it?s called). I am attaching pictures of my mainsail furler for reference. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 2:56 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Perhaps this is an older GB furler or a very early CDI design. Attached is the top of the pole showing the channel for the sail luff. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-28.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1356284 bytes Desc: Image-28.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-29.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1370711 bytes Desc: Image-29.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-30.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1573174 bytes Desc: Image-30.png URL: From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 4 21:08:42 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 18:08:42 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Alexis, The second picture is just the top of the pole that is in the first picture. Your pole looks the same as mine. Pretty simple how the top of your sail is attached. The bottom looks different - does that block portion remain stationary while the rest spins? What brand is yours? Thanks, Ken Alexis Seigneurin wrote > Ken, > > The first picture you sent looks to me like a headsail furler, but the > second picture looks like the mainsail furler (or pole - whatever it?s > called). > > I am attaching pictures of my mainsail furler for reference. > > Alexis ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 22:40:03 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 02:40:03 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi Ken, I don?t know what brand mine is. I believe this is what General Boats has been using at least in the past 10-15 years (my boat was refurbished in 2007). The black block is what attaches to the cabin top to allow it to be raised. Peter has a video about replacing the furling line, and it gives a good view over the furling system: https://youtu.be/MH7hYJnoNpM The furler from your picture really keeps me curious. It looks much bigger than what would fit inside the mast, but it might just be an optical illusion! Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:08 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Hi Alexis, The second picture is just the top of the pole that is in the first picture. Your pole looks the same as mine. Pretty simple how the top of your sail is attached. The bottom looks different - does that block portion remain stationary while the rest spins? What brand is yours? Thanks, Ken Alexis Seigneurin wrote > Ken, > > The first picture you sent looks to me like a headsail furler, but the > second picture looks like the mainsail furler (or pole - whatever it?s > called). > > I am attaching pictures of my mainsail furler for reference. > > Alexis ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 4 23:49:10 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 20:49:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Alexis, Sorry, I am confusing you. I am talking about the Jib Furler, not the In Mast Furler for the main sail. I edited my first post (title and content) to clarify. My apologies. Your pictures make more sense to me now. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 07:38:05 2019 From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 07:38:05 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Anyone in South Florida? In-Reply-To: <1562204963198-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <613976115.1512155.1562156127291@mail.yahoo.com> <1562204963198-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <3EF0E2EF-7703-44FB-A5EB-73BBF4DED38C@gmail.com> Bill, I?ll be back this weekend, and I?ll take some pics for you. Luis A. Guzm?n II http://www.TropicalMinds.com 941 580-1577 > On Jul 3, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Bill1972 wrote: > > Thank you. I?ll look you up if I?m over that way. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 09:26:33 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:26:33 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: [Image] Ah, ok, this makes a lot more sense for the drum! I am still surprised the pole/tube is metal though. Mine is plastic and flexible. You can see it in the middle of the picture I?m attaching here. I don?t have close-ups though, sorry. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Hi Alexis, Sorry, I am confusing you. I am talking about the Jib Furler, not the In Mast Furler for the main sail. I edited my first post (title and content) to clarify. My apologies. Your pictures make more sense to me now. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-31.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1089010 bytes Desc: Image-31.png URL: From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Fri Jul 5 09:35:46 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:35:46 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: The cdi furler has flexible foil that includes a slot for the sail and a slot for the halyard. The GB furler has a metal tube. https://www.sailrite.com/PDF/FF2_Manual.pdf Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Alexis Seigneurin Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:27 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts [Image] Ah, ok, this makes a lot more sense for the drum! I am still surprised the pole/tube is metal though. Mine is plastic and flexible. You can see it in the middle of the picture I?m attaching here. I don?t have close-ups though, sorry. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Hi Alexis, Sorry, I am confusing you. I am talking about the Jib Furler, not the In Mast Furler for the main sail. I edited my first post (title and content) to clarify. My apologies. Your pictures make more sense to me now. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-31.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1089010 bytes Desc: Image-31.png URL: From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 09:40:30 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:40:30 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , Message-ID: I see. I didn?t know that. It all makes sense to me now. So, yes, I have a CDI furler. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Chris Cowie Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:35 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts The cdi furler has flexible foil that includes a slot for the sail and a slot for the halyard. The GB furler has a metal tube. https://www.sailrite.com/PDF/FF2_Manual.pdf Christopher P. Cowie 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Alexis Seigneurin Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:27 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts [Image] Ah, ok, this makes a lot more sense for the drum! I am still surprised the pole/tube is metal though. Mine is plastic and flexible. You can see it in the middle of the picture I?m attaching here. I don?t have close-ups though, sorry. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Hi Alexis, Sorry, I am confusing you. I am talking about the Jib Furler, not the In Mast Furler for the main sail. I edited my first post (title and content) to clarify. My apologies. Your pictures make more sense to me now. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-31.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1089010 bytes Desc: Image-31.png URL: From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Fri Jul 5 09:42:12 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:42:12 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562266615354-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1562288922908-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1562298550589-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , Message-ID: Just to be clear, the CDI furler and GBI furler is for the jib. The Main has a custom GB furler. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Alexis Seigneurin Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:41 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts I see. I didn?t know that. It all makes sense to me now. So, yes, I have a CDI furler. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Chris Cowie Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:35 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts The cdi furler has flexible foil that includes a slot for the sail and a slot for the halyard. The GB furler has a metal tube. https://www.sailrite.com/PDF/FF2_Manual.pdf Christopher P. Cowie 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Alexis Seigneurin Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 9:27 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts [Image] Ah, ok, this makes a lot more sense for the drum! I am still surprised the pole/tube is metal though. Mine is plastic and flexible. You can see it in the middle of the picture I?m attaching here. I don?t have close-ups though, sorry. Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of SpringHollow Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 11:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB Furler Picturers and Parts Hi Alexis, Sorry, I am confusing you. I am talking about the Jib Furler, not the In Mast Furler for the main sail. I edited my first post (title and content) to clarify. My apologies. Your pictures make more sense to me now. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <3EF0E2EF-7703-44FB-A5EB-73BBF4DED38C@gmail.com> References: <1562121584635-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <613976115.1512155.1562156127291@mail.yahoo.com> <1562204963198-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <3EF0E2EF-7703-44FB-A5EB-73BBF4DED38C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1562334508591-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thank you sir. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rca02536 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 10:08:42 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:08:42 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> Message-ID: Hi all, went out this morning intending to remove the jib in order to replace some screws in the GB furling tube and realized I wasn?t sure how to completely remove the headsail, never having done it. the halyard does not appear long enough to lower the entire sail. What am I missing? Bob Allen S/V air force From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Fri Jul 5 10:12:02 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:12:02 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> , Message-ID: <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> You need to attach a temporary line to extend the halyard Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Robert Allen > wrote: Hi all, went out this morning intending to remove the jib in order to replace some screws in the GB furling tube and realized I wasn?t sure how to completely remove the headsail, never having done it. the halyard does not appear long enough to lower the entire sail. What am I missing? Bob Allen S/V air force From rca02536 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 10:20:04 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:20:04 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> Will adding a temp line with a knot allow the line to extend through the device at the top of the headsail. Also, does the CDI furler require any modification to the headstay? > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > You need to attach a temporary line to extend the halyard > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Robert Allen > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > went out this morning intending to remove the jib in order to replace some screws in the GB furling tube and realized I wasn?t sure how to completely remove the headsail, never having done it. the halyard does not appear long enough to lower the entire sail. What am I missing? > > Bob Allen > S/V air force From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 5 10:28:04 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 07:28:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1562336884820-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Bob, Do you have pictures of both ends of your furler? Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Fri Jul 5 10:31:25 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:31:25 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> Message-ID: The CDI furler flexible foil should be cut to size so you should be able to use the forestay. Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Robert Allen Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 10:20 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib Will adding a temp line with a knot allow the line to extend through the device at the top of the headsail. Also, does the CDI furler require any modification to the headstay? > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Chris Cowie wrote: > > You need to attach a temporary line to extend the halyard > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia > 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Robert Allen > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > went out this morning intending to remove the jib in order to replace some screws in the GB furling tube and realized I wasn?t sure how to completely remove the headsail, never having done it. the halyard does not appear long enough to lower the entire sail. What am I missing? > > Bob Allen > S/V air force From rca02536 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 10:37:57 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:37:57 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <1562336884820-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> <1562336884820-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <0E09ADC8-12FA-4794-A4F3-E94C0C293F33@gmail.com> Pix attached. This is a self contained system, with the halyard attached to the furling drum and running up to a block at the top of the headsail then back down to the drum. Never had one like this my others had the halyard going thru the top of the mast and securing lower on the mast. > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, SpringHollow wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > Do you have pictures of both ends of your furler? > > Ken > > > > ----- > 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rlowe at vt.edu Fri Jul 5 10:40:09 2019 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 14:40:09 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Chris Geankoplis Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together and I have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the document I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip and covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come along....sometime. Link to 1969 Vayu Story https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing Chris Geankoplis ENOSIS I -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1034434 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rca02536 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 10:41:35 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:41:35 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <1562336884820-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> <408DB0C5-DE97-4252-8E53-4CB10963F1DC@cowieassociates.com> <08F307EF-94E6-4733-97AB-310D8E09FF48@gmail.com> <1562336884820-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <7AF492D0-0232-4100-9110-8FEA4FBA28FD@gmail.com> Pix attached. The GB system is set contained. The halyard is secured to the furling drum, runs up to a block at the top of the headsail and back down. Other boats i?ve had, the halyard runs thru the top of the mast securing lower on the mast. > On Jul 5, 2019, at 10:28 AM, SpringHollow wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > Do you have pictures of both ends of your furler? > > Ken > > > > ----- > 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jul 5 10:59:24 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:59:24 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <006f01d53100$0fd73220$2f859660$@ca> Message-ID: There are manuals for the CDI Furler here. http://www.sailcdi.com/manuals Mary Lou On 7/5/2019 10:08 AM, Robert Allen wrote: > Hi all, > > went out this morning intending to remove the jib in order to replace some screws in the GB furling tube and realized I wasn?t sure how to completely remove the headsail, never having done it. the halyard does not appear long enough to lower the entire sail. What am I missing? > > Bob Allen > S/V air force --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jul 5 11:42:08 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:42:08 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> Hi Ken (and everyone), Attached are some photos of the top and the bottom of the GBI furler from our R22 which was recycled by GB in 1998. We have since sold the boat with a Schaefer furler and this GBI furler is available free to anyone who wants to come to the Eastern Shore of Maryland and pick it up - all 26+ feet of it. It's a bit grubby but the extrusion is in good condition as are the starboard parts. We tried to give it to Stan but could never arrange transportation. There are 6 pictures here. Don't know if the email server will handle them all. Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246 Rock Hall, MD On 7/4/2019 1:14 AM, SpringHollow wrote: > Hi, We just purchased a Rhodes 22 (1988, refurbed in 2008). Unfortunately, > the previous owner lost some of the General Boat furler parts while > replacing the broken stay and having a smaller Genoa made. All we have is > the long metal pole with the open rope drum on the bottom of it (picture > attached below). I sent a some emails to GB a couple of weeks ago but > understandably they have not been returned. I designed a part for the top > of the pole that I think will work well but it makes sense to see what the > design is supposed to be plus how the furler is rigged with a sail. Does > anyone have pictures they could send me showing the parts and how the GB > furler is rigged? 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There were several variations of the furler before GB went to the CDI furler. The GB furler was bulletproof. I expect the only reason a switch was made was either difficulty getting the extrusion or because of customer demand for a furler that would allow you to remove the headsail without lowering the mast. Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246 Rock Hall, MD On 7/5/2019 11:42 AM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > Hi Ken (and everyone), > Attached are some photos of the top and the bottom of the GBI furler > from our R22 which was recycled by GB in 1998. > > We have since sold the boat with a Schaefer furler and this GBI furler > is available free to anyone who wants to come to the Eastern Shore of > Maryland and pick it up - all 26+ feet of it. It's a bit grubby but > the extrusion is in good condition as are the starboard parts. > > We tried to give it to Stan but could never arrange transportation. > > There are 6 pictures here. Don't know if the email server will handle > them all. > > Mary Lou > ex R22 > now Rosborough RF-246 > Rock Hall, MD > > On 7/4/2019 1:14 AM, SpringHollow wrote: >> Hi, We just purchased a Rhodes 22 (1988, refurbed in 2008).? >> Unfortunately, >> the previous owner lost some of the General Boat furler parts while >> replacing the broken stay and having a smaller Genoa made.? All we >> have is >> the long metal pole with the open rope drum on the bottom of it (picture >> attached below).? I sent a some emails to GB a couple of weeks ago but >> understandably they have not been returned.? I designed a part for >> the top >> of the pole that I think will work well but it makes sense to see >> what the >> design is supposed to be plus how the furler is rigged with a sail.? >> Does >> anyone have pictures they could send me showing the parts and how the GB >> furler is rigged?? Even better if someone has upgraded their furler and >> wants to sell some parts. >> >> >> >> Thanks and thanks for all of the useful information posted on this site. >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ >> > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler drum 1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 247424 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler drum 2.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 254273 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler drum 3.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 221608 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler from bottom.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 236744 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler top 1.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 251398 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: GBI furler top 2.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 272674 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > From CKLang at aol.com Fri Jul 5 12:02:42 2019 From: CKLang at aol.com (CKLang at aol.com) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 12:02:42 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? Message-ID: We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone From sloopblueheron at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 12:27:16 2019 From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 12:27:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Get one from Stan. Best fit and attachment. Regards, Rick Lange On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:02 PM CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini > dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE > smartphone From peter at sunnybeeches.com Fri Jul 5 13:10:04 2019 From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:10:04 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Biminis seem to be sold based on the length and width of the covered area, and the vertical height of the top above the attachment point. Mine is 69? long by 82? wide by 38? high at the side. the height at the center would be a few inches more. Peter Nyberg Coventry, CT s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:02 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Fri Jul 5 13:14:29 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 17:14:29 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: https://www.voilieryachts.com/product-page/brimini Christopher P. Cowie? ?? 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] Please consider the environment before printing this email. -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:03 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 5 13:39:38 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:39:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Mary, Your furler looks exactly like mine I think except the bottom of the rope drum is disconnected on yours and I am missing the top piece. Was the top of the sail just screwed to the pole using a metal loop or like on another design where they just used a screw (with washer) going through the sail grommet into the pole? Mine has a D-Ring installed above the rope drum. I see screw holes above yours as well. I am assuming the bottom of the sail is attached to the d-ring on mine with rope or hardware. Depending upon the length of the sail, I could see using these to set the tension. Does this sound correct? I assume the width of the disk is to limit the height the tube can rise and to have a soft surface if it hits against the mast. Yours is 2 piece. I am not sure what the advantage of that is since hardware can not pass through the lower rope drum. Though it would allow one to more easily replace the bushing with a split bushing when it is worn down. When I make it, I might drill large holes through mine to reduce weight up there. That would be stronger and easier than trying to hollow it out. With the pole 1" diameter, it looks like your disk is 3" diameter. Definitely making progress. Thank you Mary and everyone else! Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 5 13:53:56 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:53:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1562349236422-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi Bob, I did not see any pictures attached so it is hard for me to tell what is going on. Without seeing it, I can not say if a longer screw will start getting too close to the wire. If it looks like that might be an issue, I would try for the next larger size. Be careful if you have to drill the hole larger - go in small steps in drill size doing a test fit each time so as to not end up having a loose screw again. Are you keeping tension on the sheet as you furl the jib and visa versa as you unfurl? Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From talbotdavid50 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 13:54:15 2019 From: talbotdavid50 at gmail.com (David Talbot) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you live in eastern North Carolina I have a Rhodes Bimini in good condition On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:14 PM, Chris Cowie wrote: > https://www.voilieryachts.com/product-page/brimini > > > > Christopher P. Cowie > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of > CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:03 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? > > We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini > dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE > smartphone > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 14:07:22 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 20:07:22 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. Chris G ENOSIS On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them > coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob > > ________________________________ > > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Chris Geankoplis > > Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > > > July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to > > slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together and I > > have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of > > readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the document > > I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip and > > covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, > > I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I > > made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me > > started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come > > along....sometime. > > > > Link to 1969 Vayu Story > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > ENOSIS I > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf > > Type: application/pdf > > Size: 1034434 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf > > > > From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jul 5 15:42:02 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:42:02 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <4083976b-4fe9-2015-3e2e-fda1a94321e7@atlanticbb.net> Hi Ken, Comments and answers embedded in the text. On 7/5/2019 1:39 PM, SpringHollow wrote: > Hi Mary, > > Your furler looks exactly like mine I think except the bottom of the rope > drum is disconnected on yours and I am missing the top piece. Yes the bottom of the drum is disconnected. I don't recall if there were screws holding the bottom on or not. The tube seated in the depression and the furling line went through a hole in the base and was knotted to hold the line there. > Was the top of the sail just screwed to the pole using a metal loop or like > on another design where they just used a screw (with washer) going through > the sail grommet into the pole? I was thinking there was just a screw going through a webbing tab sewn to the sail and then screwed into the tube but? there are two holes in the tube top and bottom so there may have been a u-shaped tang or small padeye threaded through and webbing strap and the padeye screwed to the tube. It was about 15 years ago that we last used it and I'm just not sure. > Mine has a D-Ring installed above the rope drum. I see screw holes above > yours as well. I am assuming the bottom of the sail is attached to the > d-ring on mine with rope or hardware. Depending upon the length of the > sail, I could see using these to set the tension. Does this sound correct? Noting the amount of time that has passed, yes it sounds correct. > I assume the width of the disk is to limit the height the tube can rise and > to have a soft surface if it hits against the mast. Yours is 2 piece. I am > not sure what the advantage of that is since hardware can not pass through > the lower rope drum. Though it would allow one to more easily replace the > bushing with a split bushing when it is worn down. I don't recall the the furler being able to rise on the headstay but I don't recall why it couldn't > When I make it, I > might drill large holes through mine to reduce weight up there. That would > be stronger and easier than trying to hollow it out. With the pole 1" > diameter, it looks like your disk is 3" diameter. The upper piece is in two parts and is not quite round more like a square rounded off unevenly. It is 3 1/8 across one way and 3 1/4 the other . The diagonals are about 3 1/2 but one is less than the other. Glad this was of some help Mary Lou --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jul 5 15:51:16 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:51:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really enjoying it. Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246 Rock Hall, MD On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna > Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. > Chris G > ENOSIS > > On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > >> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them >> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of >> Chris Geankoplis >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM >> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med >> >> >> >> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to >> >> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together and I >> >> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of >> >> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the document >> >> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip and >> >> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, >> >> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I >> >> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me >> >> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come >> >> along....sometime. >> >> >> >> Link to 1969 Vayu Story >> >> >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Chris Geankoplis >> >> ENOSIS I >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf >> >> Type: application/pdf >> >> Size: 1034434 bytes >> >> Desc: not available >> >> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf >> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 5 16:09:16 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:09:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <4083976b-4fe9-2015-3e2e-fda1a94321e7@atlanticbb.net> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4083976b-4fe9-2015-3e2e-fda1a94321e7@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: <1562357356985-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Mary, I am impressed - you even have dimensions!!! I was just talking to the sailmaker. His English is orders of magnitude better than any Italian I could ever try to do but the communication was difficult. I wanted to talk to him about adding luff foam and UV protection. He could not understand my explaining the luff foam to improve shape when partially furled. So I will wait to see how we like it without it and get it added over here if necessary. However, he did understand my discussion that the light weight insignia material might be better than sunbrella. But he needs to know which side of the sail to put it on. I do not know which way the sail furls. I think the furling sheet went to the starboard side of the boat - does that sound correct? If so, then the sail should be protected on that side. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ksimolo at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 5 16:13:11 2019 From: ksimolo at frontiernet.net (SpringHollow) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:13:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562357356985-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4083976b-4fe9-2015-3e2e-fda1a94321e7@atlanticbb.net> <1562357356985-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1562357591447-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Yikes, I got that reversed, I think (I am incapable of visualizing things). It will furl clockwise so the port side needs to be protected. Ken ----- 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Fri Jul 5 16:16:44 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:16:44 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GBI Furler available and photos Re: GB Furler Picturers and Parts In-Reply-To: <1562357356985-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1562217275258-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4f4592b2-8842-50ce-5d18-641d4e34e48b@atlanticbb.net> <1c72fcf1-9cd1-6a32-4014-f1c135f93fe0@atlanticbb.net> <1562348378080-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <4083976b-4fe9-2015-3e2e-fda1a94321e7@atlanticbb.net> <1562357356985-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Yes ours went to starboard. The eyes for the furling line are there and it went to cam cleat on the cabin top. ML On 7/5/2019 4:09 PM, SpringHollow wrote: > Mary, I am impressed - you even have dimensions!!! > > I was just talking to the sailmaker. His English is orders of magnitude > better than any Italian I could ever try to do but the communication was > difficult. I wanted to talk to him about adding luff foam and UV > protection. He could not understand my explaining the luff foam to improve > shape when partially furled. So I will wait to see how we like it without > it and get it added over here if necessary. However, he did understand my > discussion that the light weight insignia material might be better than > sunbrella. But he needs to know which side of the sail to put it on. I do > not know which way the sail furls. I think the furling sheet went to the > starboard side of the boat - does that sound correct? If so, then the sail > should be protected on that side. > > Ken > > > > ----- > 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ews1esq at yahoo.com Fri Jul 5 16:28:16 2019 From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (Eric Smith) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:28:16 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What color? Where in NC? How much? Eric Smith Little Red Mistress Fort Pierce, FL Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:54 PM, David Talbot wrote: > > If you live in eastern North Carolina I have a Rhodes Bimini in good > condition > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:14 PM, Chris Cowie > wrote: > >> https://www.voilieryachts.com/product-page/brimini >> >> >> >> Christopher P. Cowie >> >> 700 N Fairfax Street >> Suite 304 >> Alexandria, Virginia 22314 >> 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile >> [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] >> >> >> >> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of >> CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list >> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2019 12:03 PM >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? >> >> We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini >> dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE >> smartphone >> From boendert at me.com Fri Jul 5 19:27:54 2019 From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 19:27:54 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Bimini? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They are commercially available. I?ll send a picture of the tag on mine tomorrow from the boat. Cheers, Ted S/V AIRPOWER 1991/2013 R22 Jacksonville, FL > On Jul 5, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Rick Lange wrote: > > Get one from Stan. Best fit and attachment. > > Regards, > > Rick Lange > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:02 PM CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list < > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > >> We bought a 1990 Rhodes this year. No bimini. Anyone have bimini >> dimensions to share?Thanks,CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE >> smartphone From rca02536 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 20:35:55 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 20:35:55 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <1562349236422-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <1562349236422-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8712FBCE-E94C-4582-BFC2-4DA501A15278@gmail.com> thanks, let me try again wit pics. And yes I?m keeping some tension, should th fork rotate 360 around the drum? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_4940.heic Type: image/heic Size: 21682 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_9150.heic Type: image/heic Size: 18438 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_7546.heic Type: image/heic Size: 11379 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- > On Jul 5, 2019, at 1:53 PM, SpringHollow wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > I did not see any pictures attached so it is hard for me to tell what is > going on. Without seeing it, I can not say if a longer screw will start > getting too close to the wire. If it looks like that might be an issue, I > would try for the next larger size. Be careful if you have to drill the > hole larger - go in small steps in drill size doing a test fit each time so > as to not end up having a loose screw again. > > Are you keeping tension on the sheet as you furl the jib and visa versa as > you unfurl? > > Ken > > > > > > > > ----- > 1988 Rhodes 22 refurbed in 2008 > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 06:32:05 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 12:32:05 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Mary Lou, It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s as a hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of the awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel like you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the boat a short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier > > journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really > > enjoying it. > > > > Mary Lou > > ex R22 > > now Rosborough RF-246 > > Rock Hall, MD > > > > On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > > Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna > > > Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. > > > Chris G > > > ENOSIS > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > > > > >> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them > > >> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob > > >> > > >> ________________________________ > > >> > > >> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > > >> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM > > >> > > >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > >> > > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to > > >> > > >> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together > and I > > >> > > >> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of > > >> > > >> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the > document > > >> > > >> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip > and > > >> > > >> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, > > >> > > >> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I > > >> > > >> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me > > >> > > >> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come > > >> > > >> along....sometime. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Link to 1969 Vayu Story > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >> ENOSIS I > > >> > > >> -------------- next part -------------- > > >> > > >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >> > > >> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf > > >> > > >> Type: application/pdf > > >> > > >> Size: 1034434 bytes > > >> > > >> Desc: not available > > >> > > >> URL: < > > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf > > >> > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5679.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2525361 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mweisner at ebsmed.com Sat Jul 6 08:49:28 2019 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 08:49:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib In-Reply-To: <8712FBCE-E94C-4582-BFC2-4DA501A15278@gmail.com> References: <917E7212-776A-4B29-B5FB-983C8D8E5199@gmail.com> <1562349236422-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <8712FBCE-E94C-4582-BFC2-4DA501A15278@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701d533f9$40e9e000$c2bda000$@ebsmed.com> Images should be in the jpg format since heic is not supported. I have converted the images and reposted (see below). Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Robert Allen Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 8:36 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] GB roller furling jib thanks, let me try again wit pics. 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Name: img_4940.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 13016 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Sat Jul 6 10:39:36 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 10:39:36 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris Love the photo. I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I will read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up a map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely lacking. You were a good writer then and now. Thanks Mary Lou On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Thanks Mary Lou, > It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s as a > hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just > transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of the > awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more > authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel like > you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the boat a > short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft > Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? > > > On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > >> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier >> >> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really >> >> enjoying it. >> >> >> >> Mary Lou >> >> ex R22 >> >> now Rosborough RF-246 >> >> Rock Hall, MD >> >> >> >> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: >> >>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna >>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. >>> Chris G >>> ENOSIS >>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: >>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them >>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med >>>> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to >>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together >> and I >> >>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot of >>>> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the >> document >> >>>> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip >> and >> >>>> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years ago, >>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip that I >>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me >>>> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come >>>> along....sometime. >>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing >> >>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>> ENOSIS I >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf >>>> Type: application/pdf >>>> Size: 1034434 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_5679.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2525361 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 16:35:16 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 22:35:16 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks again. Yes, don?t know about good, but I do like writing. On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > Chris > > Love the photo. > > > > I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I will > > read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up a > > map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely lacking. You > > were a good writer then and now. > > > > Thanks > > Mary Lou > > > > On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > > Thanks Mary Lou, > > > It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s as > a > > > hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just > > > transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of the > > > awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more > > > authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel > like > > > you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the boat a > > > short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft > > > Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier > > >> > > >> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really > > >> > > >> enjoying it. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Mary Lou > > >> > > >> ex R22 > > >> > > >> now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> > > >> Rock Hall, MD > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > >> > > >>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna > > >>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. > > >>> Chris G > > >>> ENOSIS > > >>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > >>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them > > >>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob > > >>>> ________________________________ > > >>>> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > > >>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM > > >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > >>>> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to > > >>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together > > >> and I > > >> > > >>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot > of > > >>>> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the > > >> document > > >> > > >>>> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip > > >> and > > >> > > >>>> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years > ago, > > >>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip > that I > > >>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me > > >>>> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come > > >>>> along....sometime. > > >>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story > > >> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing > > >> > > >>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >>>> ENOSIS I > > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- > > >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf > > >>>> Type: application/pdf > > >>>> Size: 1034434 bytes > > >>>> Desc: not available > > >>>> URL: < > > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- > > >> > > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > >> > > >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > Name: IMG_5679.JPG > > > Type: image/jpeg > > > Size: 2525361 bytes > > > Desc: not available > > > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190706/1936a22d/attachment.jpe > > > > > > From marcelsophia at aol.com Sat Jul 6 20:29:34 2019 From: marcelsophia at aol.com (MARCEL SANSO) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 20:29:34 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46AC20E1-3BF2-4435-A7B1-0276D7560826@aol.com> I loved it. Sophia > On Jul 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Thanks again. Yes, don?t know about good, but I do like writing. > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Mary Lou Troy wrote: >> >> Chris >> >> Love the photo. >> >> >> >> I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I will >> >> read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up a >> >> map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely lacking. You >> >> were a good writer then and now. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Mary Lou >> >> >> >>> On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Mary Lou, >> >>> It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s as >> a >> >>> hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just >> >>> transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of the >> >>> awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more >> >>> authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel >> like >> >>> you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the boat a >> >>> short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft >> >>> Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy wrote: >>> >>> >> >>>> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier >> >>>> >> >>>> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really >> >>>> >> >>>> enjoying it. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Mary Lou >> >>>> >> >>>> ex R22 >> >>>> >> >>>> now Rosborough RF-246 >> >>>> >> >>>> Rock Hall, MD >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna >> >>>>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. >> >>>>> Chris G >> >>>>> ENOSIS >> >>>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: >> >>>>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them >> >>>>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob >> >>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of >> >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM >> >>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med >> >>>>>> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to >> >>>>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came together >> >>>> and I >> >>>> >> >>>>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot >> of >> >>>>>> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the >> >>>> document >> >>>> >> >>>>>> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip >> >>>> and >> >>>> >> >>>>>> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years >> ago, >> >>>>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip >> that I >> >>>>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me >> >>>>>> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come >> >>>>>> along....sometime. >> >>>>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story >> >>>> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis >> >>>>>> ENOSIS I >> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >> >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >>>>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf >> >>>>>> Type: application/pdf >> >>>>>> Size: 1034434 bytes >> >>>>>> Desc: not available >> >>>>>> URL: < >> >>>> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --- >> >>>> >> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >>> Name: IMG_5679.JPG >> >>> Type: image/jpeg >> >>> Size: 2525361 bytes >> >>> Desc: not available >> >>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190706/1936a22d/attachment.jpe >>> >> >> >> >> From asnooch at aol.com Sat Jul 6 21:24:38 2019 From: asnooch at aol.com (asnooch at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 01:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] scam artist family In-Reply-To: <46AC20E1-3BF2-4435-A7B1-0276D7560826@aol.com> References: <46AC20E1-3BF2-4435-A7B1-0276D7560826@aol.com> Message-ID: <187178104.3783759.1562462678442@mail.yahoo.com> List members Alert ..... Rummy and I knew this family to be scam artists.... stole my gps from my Rhodes. -----Original Message----- From: MARCEL SANSO via Rhodes22-list To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Sent: Sat, Jul 6, 2019 8:30 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med I loved it. Sophia > On Jul 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Thanks again. Yes, don?t know about good, but I do like writing. > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Mary Lou Troy wrote: >> >> Chris >> >> Love the photo. >> >> >> >> I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I will >> >> read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up a >> >> map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely lacking. You >> >> were a good writer then and now. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Mary Lou >> >> >> >>> On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Mary Lou, >> >>> It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s as >> a >> >>> hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just >> >>> transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of the >> >>> awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more >> >>> authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel >> like >> >>> you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy!? Here is a view from the boat a >> >>> short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft >> >>> Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy wrote: >>> >>> >> >>>> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier >> >>>> >> >>>> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really >> >>>> >> >>>> enjoying it. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Mary Lou >> >>>> >> >>>> ex R22 >> >>>> >> >>>> now Rosborough RF-246 >> >>>> >> >>>> Rock Hall, MD >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna >> >>>>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in them. >> >>>>> Chris G >> >>>>> ENOSIS >> >>>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: >> >>>>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them >> >>>>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob >> >>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of >> >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis >> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM >> >>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med >> >>>>>> July 4th? Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine to >> >>>>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box.? So things came together >> >>>> and I >> >>>> >> >>>>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a lot >> of >> >>>>>> readers.? Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the >> >>>> document >> >>>> >> >>>>>> I think.? Thanks Mike.? Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole trip >> >>>> and >> >>>> >> >>>>>> covers the first few days.? Though I posted this a couple of years >> ago, >> >>>>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip >> that I >> >>>>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago.? It really was what got me >> >>>>>> started sailing.? So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come >> >>>>>> along....sometime. >> >>>>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story >> >>>> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis >> >>>>>> ENOSIS I >> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >> >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >>>>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf >> >>>>>> Type: application/pdf >> >>>>>> Size: 1034434 bytes >> >>>>>> Desc: not available >> >>>>>> URL: < >> >>>> >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --- >> >>>> >> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> >>>> >> >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >>> Name: IMG_5679.JPG >> >>> Type: image/jpeg >> >>> Size: 2525361 bytes >> >>> Desc: not available >> >>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190706/1936a22d/attachment.jpe >>> >> >> >> >> From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 01:16:48 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 07:16:48 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: <46AC20E1-3BF2-4435-A7B1-0276D7560826@aol.com> References: <46AC20E1-3BF2-4435-A7B1-0276D7560826@aol.com> Message-ID: Aww thanks On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 02:30, MARCEL SANSO via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > I loved it. > > > > Sophia > > > > > On Jul 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks again. Yes, don?t know about good, but I do like writing. > > > > > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Mary Lou Troy > wrote: > > >> > > >> Chris > > >> > > >> Love the photo. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I will > > >> > > >> read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up a > > >> > > >> map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely lacking. You > > >> > > >> were a good writer then and now. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Mary Lou > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Thanks Mary Lou, > > >> > > >>> It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late mother?s > as > > >> a > > >> > > >>> hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just > > >> > > >>> transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot of > the > > >> > > >>> awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was more > > >> > > >>> authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t feel > > >> like > > >> > > >>> you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the boat > a > > >> > > >>> short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of 11,000 ft > > >> > > >>> Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but really > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> enjoying it. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Mary Lou > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> ex R22 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Rock Hall, MD > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt Etna > > >> > > >>>>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing in > them. > > >> > > >>>>> Chris G > > >> > > >>>>> ENOSIS > > >> > > >>>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > >> > > >>>>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep them > > >> > > >>>>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob > > >> > > >>>>>> ________________________________ > > >> > > >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list on behalf > of > > >> > > >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM > > >> > > >>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > >> > > >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > >> > > >>>>>> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice machine > to > > >> > > >>>>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came > together > > >> > > >>>> and I > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for a > lot > > >> of > > >> > > >>>>>> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of the > > >> > > >>>> document > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the whole > trip > > >> > > >>>> and > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of years > > >> ago, > > >> > > >>>>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original trip > > >> that I > > >> > > >>>>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what got me > > >> > > >>>>>> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come > > >> > > >>>>>> along....sometime. > > >> > > >>>>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA/view?usp=sharing > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >>>>>> ENOSIS I > > >> > > >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- > > >> > > >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >> > > >>>>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf > > >> > > >>>>>> Type: application/pdf > > >> > > >>>>>> Size: 1034434 bytes > > >> > > >>>>>> Desc: not available > > >> > > >>>>>> URL: < > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190704/4490a8da/attachment.pdf > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> --- > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > >> > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >> > > >>> Name: IMG_5679.JPG > > >> > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > >> > > >>> Size: 2525361 bytes > > >> > > >>> Desc: not available > > >> > > >>> URL: < > > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190706/1936a22d/attachment.jpe > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > From C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu Mon Jul 8 16:02:34 2019 From: C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu (C. Robert Lester) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 20:02:34 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 | Chichester, NH? Message-ID: Greetings, Is the owner of this Red R22 on this discussion list? No one was home to ask. Bob Sunapee, NH '84 R22 -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 1:17 AM To: MARCEL SANSO ; The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med Aww thanks On Sun, 7 Jul 2019 at 02:30, MARCEL SANSO via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > I loved it. > > > > Sophia > > > > > On Jul 6, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Chris Geankoplis > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks again. Yes, don?t know about good, but I do like writing. > > > > > >> On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Mary Lou Troy > wrote: > > >> > > >> Chris > > >> > > >> Love the photo. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I'm very glad you found the earlier account and transcribed it. I > >> will > > >> > > >> read the whole thing as I am thoroughly enjoying it. Even pulled up > >> a > > >> > > >> map of Italy as my knowledge of Italian geography is sorely > >> lacking. You > > >> > > >> were a good writer then and now. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Mary Lou > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> On 7/6/2019 6:32 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Thanks Mary Lou, > > >> > > >>> It was written long ago and ?lost?. It discovered in my late > >>> mother?s > as > > >> a > > >> > > >>> hand written, typed journal and an envelope of negatives. I just > > >> > > >>> transcribed the info but did very little editing. I left in a lot > >>> of > the > > >> > > >>> awkward grammar and some of the misspellings. I thought it was > >>> more > > >> > > >>> authentic that way. I think we found it about 16 years ago. Don?t > >>> feel > > >> like > > >> > > >>> you have to read the whole thing. Enjoy! Here is a view from the > >>> boat > a > > >> > > >>> short time ago. The cloud is from a minor eruption/venting of > >>> 11,000 ft > > >> > > >>> Etna. Life on a boat rocks, doesent? > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 21:51, Mary Lou Troy > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >>>> Thanks once again for the reports and the account of your earlier > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> journey which I had somehow missed. I'm only up to page 22 but > >>>> really > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> enjoying it. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Mary Lou > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> ex R22 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> Rock Hall, MD > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> On 7/5/2019 2:07 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>> Thanks Rob. Yeah, loads of fun. Made it down to the base of Mt > >>>>> Etna > > >> > > >>>>> Today, Impressive volcan. The reports should have more sailing > >>>>> in > them. > > >> > > >>>>> Chris G > > >> > > >>>>> ENOSIS > > >> > > >>>>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 at 16:40, Lowe, Rob wrote: > > >> > > >>>>>> Oh my, Chris. Great story. About brought tears to my eyes. Keep > >>>>>> them > > >> > > >>>>>> coming! Loved the videos of the boat on the truck! rob > > >> > > >>>>>> ________________________________ > > >> > > >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list on > >>>>>> behalf > of > > >> > > >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 5:47:27 PM > > >> > > >>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > >> > > >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 1st Part 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > >> > > >>>>>> July 4th Sitting here in Messina waiting for the bar's ice > >>>>>> machine > to > > >> > > >>>>>> slowly make another kilo of ice for the box. So things came > together > > >> > > >>>> and I > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> have attached (I hope) a PDF which should be easier to open for > >>>>>> a > lot > > >> of > > >> > > >>>>>> readers. Mike M. will have to clear it because of the size of > >>>>>> the > > >> > > >>>> document > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> I think. Thanks Mike. Anyway, part 1 is the intro to the > >>>>>> whole > trip > > >> > > >>>> and > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> covers the first few days. Though I posted this a couple of > >>>>>> years > > >> ago, > > >> > > >>>>>> I've also put a link here for anyone interested the original > >>>>>> trip > > >> that I > > >> > > >>>>>> made down the Italian coast 50 years ago. It really was what > >>>>>> got me > > >> > > >>>>>> started sailing. So enjoy part 1, I promise part 2 will come > > >> > > >>>>>> along....sometime. > > >> > > >>>>>> Link to 1969 Vayu Story > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdriv > e.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F0B6TNygHUITxNWURLUXZQanlhQjA%2Fview%3Fusp%3D > sharing&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7C4b8279c7b > 018437aa56408d7029a54c8%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C1%7C6 > 36980734190843835&sdata=%2B1NAz%2FIKdbkGrV7ylwIcQXi0ur57bb63uLvtlL > dfUT0%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>>>> Chris Geankoplis > > >> > > >>>>>> ENOSIS I > > >> > > >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- > > >> > > >>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >> > > >>>>>> Name: pt. 1 2019 Rhodes in the Med.pdf > > >> > > >>>>>> Type: application/pdf > > >> > > >>>>>> Size: 1034434 bytes > > >> > > >>>>>> Desc: not available > > >> > > >>>>>> URL: < > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhode > s22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20190704%2F4490a8d > a%2Fattachment.pdf&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu% > 7C4b8279c7b018437aa56408d7029a54c8%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f% > 7C0%7C1%7C636980734190853839&sdata=OXbNnTmD1OIkdH25A9EZpDWDt%2F9Tp > G9akRl1Kddyjw4%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> --- > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2 > >>>> Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirus&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40d > >>>> artmouth.edu%7C4b8279c7b018437aa56408d7029a54c8%7C995b093648d640e > >>>> 5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636980734190853839&sdata=Ef%2Fwrf > >>>> NfeSnrG3ig8nWB0PF5j%2FBPtDl99tZ4Qqb9%2FoU%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>>> > > >> > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > >> > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > >> > > >>> Name: IMG_5679.JPG > > >> > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > >> > > >>> Size: 2525361 bytes > > >> > > >>> Desc: not available > > >> > > >>> URL: < > > >> > https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhode > s22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20190706%2F1936a22 > d%2Fattachment.jpe&data=02%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu% > 7C4b8279c7b018437aa56408d7029a54c8%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f% > 7C0%7C1%7C636980734190853839&sdata=wAS%2F0GNaaJZz%2FpC5VjWwhNSDrL2 > 54KcCmkjVwc0f8LE%3D&reserved=0 > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 17:30:11 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2019 23:30:11 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med Message-ID: Here is Part 2 hope you enjoy it. Just click on the link below it should (I hope) work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DOsHihV8gr08mMpXGARZG_2ghZ5xcCbw/view?usp=sharing Chris & Alice Geankoplis S/V ENOSIS From rlowe at vt.edu Thu Jul 11 09:20:57 2019 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:20:57 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris, Loaded for me, thanks. Can't wait to read. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2019 5:30 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; Nick Geankoplis ; Nicolaj Imhof ; Nikki ; pennygean ; Brad Geankoplis ; Greta Geankoplis Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med Here is Part 2 hope you enjoy it. Just click on the link below it should (I hope) work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DOsHihV8gr08mMpXGARZG_2ghZ5xcCbw/view?usp=sharing Chris & Alice Geankoplis S/V ENOSIS From melrothbard at yahoo.com Fri Jul 12 11:16:50 2019 From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 15:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any Rhodes 22 Owners in the Wilmington NC Area In-Reply-To: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> References: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1963050041.957058.1562944610306@mail.yahoo.com> Best person to speak with would be the builder, Stan Spitzer at the factory in Edenton, NC.? Contact stan at rhodes22.com? ? Melvyn H. Rothbard Attorney at Law Suite 3C 23 South 23rd Street Philadelphia, PA 19103 215 901 2258 Fax: 215 656 0993 melrothbard at yahoo.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information and/or documents included in or accompanying this transmission contain(s) confidential information belonging to the sender which is legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it was sent as indicated above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e mail in error, please delete this message and immediately notify us by replying to this e mail or telephoning us at 215 901 2258. On Friday, July 12, 2019, 11:00:10 AM EDT, George Morgan wrote: Hello, I?m interested in buying a Rhodes 22, but cannot find one closer than Illinois for sale. Is there anyone in the Wilmington area with a R22 who could let me see one in person and maybe talk to you about sailing and launching one from a ramp? Thanks, George Morgan Southport, NC 336-430-7823 From rodellner at mac.com Fri Jul 12 11:35:18 2019 From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 10:35:18 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med prequel 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <664BC553-EFBB-4E17-8B21-E48C99FB2BD4@mac.com> Chris WOW!! ?..and one of those dot is Enosis? Rod & Mary WI St Croix River > On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > So worked half the day on the boat then decided to hike up the volcano, Mt. > Epomeo. 1st pic is NW slope. Fortunately I drove around to a breach on the > south side and picked up a 1200? elevation gain. Hey I?ve hiked up most of > the towering peaks of the Bahamian Alps last winter. Uh, maybe 100? or so. > So the climb up the last 1800? was a killer. The 2nd attachment shows it > was worth it. Not exactly sailing news but the Rhodes got me to the > island. Not sure what order the attachments will show up. > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_5068.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 3914588 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_5070.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2847796 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Fri Jul 12 13:01:17 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:01:17 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailing the Med prequel 2 In-Reply-To: <664BC553-EFBB-4E17-8B21-E48C99FB2BD4@mac.com> References: <664BC553-EFBB-4E17-8B21-E48C99FB2BD4@mac.com> Message-ID: Yeah Rod, It is the little white one, can't miss it. Chris G Enosis On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:35 PM Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Chris > > WOW!! > > ?..and one of those dot is Enosis? > > Rod & Mary > WI > St Croix River > > > On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:14 PM, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > > So worked half the day on the boat then decided to hike up the volcano, > Mt. > > Epomeo. 1st pic is NW slope. Fortunately I drove around to a breach on > the > > south side and picked up a 1200? elevation gain. Hey I?ve hiked up most > of > > the towering peaks of the Bahamian Alps last winter. Uh, maybe 100? or > so. > > So the climb up the last 1800? was a killer. The 2nd attachment shows it > > was worth it. Not exactly sailing news but the Rhodes got me to the > > island. Not sure what order the attachments will show up. > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG_5068.JPG > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 3914588 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190609/6d4a1338/attachment.jpe > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: IMG_5070.JPG > > Type: image/jpeg > > Size: 2847796 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190609/6d4a1338/attachment-0001.jpe > > > > > From keywestseccorp at verizon.net Fri Jul 12 15:18:18 2019 From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any Rhodes 22 Owners in the Wilmington NC Area In-Reply-To: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> References: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1102874851.278231.1562959098320@mail.yahoo.com> Hertford NC I have one in water can see? if want also? the factory is 8 miles away Makk -----Original Message----- From: George Morgan To: rhodes22 Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2019 11:00 am Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any Rhodes 22 Owners in the Wilmington NC Area Hello, I?m interested in buying a Rhodes 22, but cannot find one closer than Illinois for sale. Is there anyone in the Wilmington area with a R22 who could let me see one in person and maybe talk to you about sailing and launching one from a ramp? Thanks, George Morgan Southport, NC 336-430-7823 From mike at traildesign.com Fri Jul 12 18:23:28 2019 From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 18:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any Rhodes 22 Owners in the Wilmington NC Area In-Reply-To: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> References: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Hi George. My R22 lives on the trailer and I sail at least a few times a month, usually at some new and unfamiliar ramp. I?m not in the Wilmington area, but I?d be happy to answer any questions you might have about rigging at a ramp as well as launching and recovering. Mike Riter SV Emma B Mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:00 AM George Morgan wrote: > Hello, > > I?m interested in buying a Rhodes 22, but cannot find one closer than > Illinois for sale. Is there anyone in the Wilmington area with a R22 who > could let me see one in person and maybe talk to you about sailing and > launching one from a ramp? > > Thanks, > George Morgan > Southport, NC > 336-430-7823 > -- Michael Riter President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc. Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training mike at traildesign.com 678-410-8021 From rbeytagh at gmail.com Sat Jul 13 10:06:21 2019 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 10:06:21 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Prequel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Chris...I hope you are safely tucked in somewhere along the southern Italian coast. Pretty nasty weather forecast for your area over the week end. https://www.this-is-italy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Italy-Hurricane.jpg ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:08 PM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Attached is (hopefully) the first part of the journal of our trip along the > Italian coast and on over to Greece (hopefully). I will try to bundle the > days and send them out about every week or two. It depends on whether I > have the time and the WiFi connections to do the postings at the same > time. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the journal and sail along with Alice and > me on another grand adventure on our Rhodes. And to Stan; I am getting > closer to sending you a picture of the Rhodes in Rhodes on a rode in Rhodes > road. Click on the attachment, or download it. > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KIopDLT-lUZmKKLBsHekj0zz97OBZuPH/view?usp=sharing > > Vibo Valentia, Calabria, Italy > June 27, 2019 > Chris Geankoplis > ENOSIS I > From canusmajor54 at gmail.com Sat Jul 13 12:00:51 2019 From: canusmajor54 at gmail.com (Jeff Kantor) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:00:51 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveller tube mount on backstays Message-ID: I am retrofitting LaRousette, a non General Boats R22 build, with a used R22 Traveller . The backstays currently don't support the main sheet block assembly. That assembly ties in to the backstay connectors and consists of the main sheet block rolling along a stainless wire. The tubular unit I hope to install has tube end fittings which terminate in a ring. From photos I glean that typical Traveller tube has a notch cut out being supported by a crimped ferrule on each backstay. If that's the right way, how is chafing of the backstay strands eliminated. This is sharp metal againt stainless strands. Would love some list advice on this one please. From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Sat Jul 13 21:59:04 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 01:59:04 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler Message-ID: Hi there, I don?t understand how my traveler is supposed to work / be used. Can someone help me? I am attaching a picture. I feel like it?s twister or upside-down. Thanks, Alexis [Image] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Image-33.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 1771606 bytes Desc: Image-33.png URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 00:00:15 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 06:00:15 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Prequel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes a bit of wind on the crossing frommarina Ciro to Gallipoli. Should be Ok. Unless the forecast changes we will go. It is only 55nm. Today we have a long day, 75 nm. A 45 nm from Sicily to Capo spartavento then an additional 30 to a safe harbor at Rocelle Ionica. I think I?ll include a picture a day for a more current feel. Today, is crossing to Calabria, 5:30 am. Alice making On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 16:06, Richard Beytagh wrote: > Hey Chris...I hope you are safely tucked in somewhere along the southern > > Italian coast. Pretty nasty weather forecast for your area over the week > > end. > > > > > https://www.this-is-italy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Italy-Hurricane.jpg > > > > > > ~~~ _/) ~~~ > > > > Richard Beytagh > > Phone: 828 337 0180 > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:08 PM Chris Geankoplis < > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Attached is (hopefully) the first part of the journal of our trip along > the > > > Italian coast and on over to Greece (hopefully). I will try to bundle > the > > > days and send them out about every week or two. It depends on whether I > > > have the time and the WiFi connections to do the postings at the same > > > time. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the journal and sail along with Alice and > > > me on another grand adventure on our Rhodes. And to Stan; I am getting > > > closer to sending you a picture of the Rhodes in Rhodes on a rode in > Rhodes > > > road. Click on the attachment, or download it. > > > > > > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KIopDLT-lUZmKKLBsHekj0zz97OBZuPH/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Vibo Valentia, Calabria, Italy > > > June 27, 2019 > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > ENOSIS I > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5801.JPG Type: image/jpg Size: 1585625 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 00:02:45 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 06:02:45 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Prequel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You dog Richard. Just saw your attachment. Very funny! On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 06:00, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > Yes a bit of wind on the crossing frommarina Ciro to Gallipoli. Should be > Ok. Unless the forecast changes we will go. It is only 55nm. Today we have > a long day, 75 nm. A 45 nm from Sicily to Capo spartavento then an > additional 30 to a safe harbor at Rocelle Ionica. I think I?ll include a > picture a day for a more current feel. Today, is crossing to Calabria, 5:30 > am. Alice making > > On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 16:06, Richard Beytagh wrote: > >> Hey Chris...I hope you are safely tucked in somewhere along the southern >> >> Italian coast. Pretty nasty weather forecast for your area over the week >> >> end. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.this-is-italy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Italy-Hurricane.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> ~~~ _/) ~~~ >> >> >> >> Richard Beytagh >> >> Phone: 828 337 0180 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:08 PM Chris Geankoplis < >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Attached is (hopefully) the first part of the journal of our trip along >> the >> >> > Italian coast and on over to Greece (hopefully). I will try to bundle >> the >> >> > days and send them out about every week or two. It depends on whether I >> >> > have the time and the WiFi connections to do the postings at the same >> >> > time. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the journal and sail along with Alice >> and >> >> > me on another grand adventure on our Rhodes. And to Stan; I am getting >> >> > closer to sending you a picture of the Rhodes in Rhodes on a rode in >> Rhodes >> >> > road. Click on the attachment, or download it. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KIopDLT-lUZmKKLBsHekj0zz97OBZuPH/view?usp=sharing >> >> > >> >> > Vibo Valentia, Calabria, Italy >> >> > June 27, 2019 >> >> > Chris Geankoplis >> >> > ENOSIS I >> >> > >> >> > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5801.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1585625 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 03:09:26 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 00:09:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Any Rhodes 22 Owners in the Wilmington NC Area In-Reply-To: <1102874851.278231.1562959098320@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b982f09-24dc-4a82-83b2-928db55e7934@googlegroups.com> <1102874851.278231.1562959098320@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1563088166916-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks to those who responded to my post. I actually visited Stan at the plant a couple of weeks ago, but he didn?t have any boats within my budget. Since then I?ve found a great boat fairly close to Wilmington which I plan to purchase. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From daysails at aol.com Sun Jul 14 09:58:19 2019 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 13:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <867742388.588016.1563112699357@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Chris and Alice, I enjoyed your write up, the maps, and the pictures comparing now and fifty years ago.? I agree about the people comments as the most important part of the voyage.? But oh is it hard not to want to have the flare of my hull parting Mediterranean?waters and listening for the Sirens call.? I did heed the call of the Sirens Pub in Port Townsend.? Safe journey.? How is Alice's eye?? Joe Riley, Second Wind, Athens GA -----Original Message----- From: Chris Geankoplis To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; Nick Geankoplis ; Nicolaj Imhof ; Nikki ; pennygean ; Brad Geankoplis ; Greta Geankoplis Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2019 5:30 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med Here is Part 2 hope you enjoy it.? Just click on the link below it should (I hope) work. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DOsHihV8gr08mMpXGARZG_2ghZ5xcCbw/view?usp=sharing Chris & Alice Geankoplis S/V ENOSIS From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Sun Jul 14 10:27:52 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 10:27:52 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Best way to understand it is to play with it and see what it does to the mainsail shape and how the boat responds. From the FAQ on the Rhodes22.org site (it was a paraphrase of a Sail Magazine article): * Light air - traveler car to windward, mainsheet eased to allow twist * Medium air - traveler slightly above centerline * Heavy air - traveler car eased, mainsheet tight Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246 On 7/13/2019 9:59 PM, Alexis Seigneurin wrote: > Hi there, > > I don?t understand how my traveler is supposed to work / be used. Can someone help me? > > I am attaching a picture. I feel like it?s twister or upside-down. > > Thanks, > Alexis [Image] > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Image-33.png > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1771606 bytes > Desc: Image-33.png > URL: > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From morrisix at comcast.net Sun Jul 14 10:57:31 2019 From: morrisix at comcast.net (Bill) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 07:57:31 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1563116251411-0.post@n5.nabble.com> -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From snstaum at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 11:05:04 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 11:05:04 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don?t know if the pic will come through but this is my traveller rig. Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 Overnighting @ Nantasket, MA (Hull) On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 9:59 PM Alexis Seigneurin < alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there, > > I don?t understand how my traveler is supposed to work / be used. Can > someone help me? > > I am attaching a picture. I feel like it?s twister or upside-down. > > Thanks, > Alexis [Image] > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Image-33.png > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1771606 bytes > Desc: Image-33.png > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20190714/f9dec1ab/attachment.jpe > > > -- Stephen Staum Pariser Industries, Inc. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > > Best way to understand it is to play with it and see what it does to the mainsail shape and how the boat responds. > From the FAQ on the Rhodes22.org site (it was a paraphrase of a Sail Magazine article): > > * Light air - traveler car to windward, mainsheet eased to allow twist > * Medium air - traveler slightly above centerline > * Heavy air - traveler car eased, mainsheet tight > > Mary Lou > ex R22 > now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> On 7/13/2019 9:59 PM, Alexis Seigneurin wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I don?t understand how my traveler is supposed to work / be used. Can someone help me? >> >> I am attaching a picture. I feel like it?s twister or upside-down. >> >> Thanks, >> Alexis [Image] >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Image-33.png >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1771606 bytes >> Desc: Image-33.png >> URL: >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 14:01:36 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:01:36 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: , , Message-ID: Thanks all for your help! Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of ROGER PIHLAJA Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:26 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler Alex, Your traveler is not upside down; but, the control lines have some twists in them. Each part of the tackle should run fairly to the next block or the clam cleat. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 14, 2019, at 10:28 AM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > > Best way to understand it is to play with it and see what it does to the mainsail shape and how the boat responds. > From the FAQ on the Rhodes22.org site (it was a paraphrase of a Sail Magazine article): > > * Light air - traveler car to windward, mainsheet eased to allow twist > * Medium air - traveler slightly above centerline > * Heavy air - traveler car eased, mainsheet tight > > Mary Lou > ex R22 > now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> On 7/13/2019 9:59 PM, Alexis Seigneurin wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I don?t understand how my traveler is supposed to work / be used. Can someone help me? >> >> I am attaching a picture. I feel like it?s twister or upside-down. >> >> Thanks, >> Alexis [Image] >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: Image-33.png >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1771606 bytes >> Desc: Image-33.png >> URL: >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 06:45:45 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 12:45:45 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med In-Reply-To: <867742388.588016.1563112699357@mail.yahoo.com> References: <867742388.588016.1563112699357@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Joe, Nice to read your comments. Another philosophy of cruising gem is is always heed the call of the Sirens Pub....or any pub! As for sailing the Med, Like every anchorage you enter, one should have an exit plan. Ours is in 2 or 3 years we will offer Enosis up for sale for around 7K with a couple of weeks of ?cruising in the Med? instruction aboard on that last September ( or sooner). This would be to any Rhodie or group of Rhodies interested in their own Odyssey. On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 15:58, Sling via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Hi Chris and Alice, > > I enjoyed your write up, the maps, and the pictures comparing now and > fifty years ago. I agree about the people comments as the most important > part of the voyage. But oh is it hard not to want to have the flare of my > hull parting Mediterranean waters and listening for the Sirens call. I did > heed the call of the Sirens Pub in Port Townsend. Safe journey. How is > Alice's eye? Joe Riley, Second Wind, Athens GA > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Geankoplis > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List ; Nick > Geankoplis ; Nicolaj Imhof < > nicolajimhof at yahoo.com>; Nikki ; pennygean < > pennygean at yahoo.com>; Brad Geankoplis ; Greta > Geankoplis > > Sent: Wed, Jul 10, 2019 5:30 pm > > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 2 2019 Rhodes in the Med > > > > Here is Part 2 hope you enjoy it. Just click on the link below it should > > (I hope) work. > > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DOsHihV8gr08mMpXGARZG_2ghZ5xcCbw/view?usp=sharing > > > > > > Chris & Alice Geankoplis > > S/V ENOSIS > > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 16:23:23 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 22:23:23 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 3rd Med pic of the day Message-ID: Thought I?d post a pic of the day so I can take a bit more time on the journaling. Sat out big t-storms. In Ionica Marina Calabria. Checked out old castle above the town one of the castle and one of the marina from the castle. Chris Geankoplis Enosis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5814.JPG Type: image/jpg Size: 1435921 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_5817.JPG Type: image/jpg Size: 1057164 bytes Desc: not available URL: From CKLang at aol.com Mon Jul 15 17:25:05 2019 From: CKLang at aol.com (CKLang at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:25:05 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? Message-ID: I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone From mweisner at ebsmed.com Mon Jul 15 18:06:45 2019 From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (mweisner at ebsmed.com) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:06:45 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008101d53b59$98b1e0a0$ca15a1e0$@ebsmed.com> Rhodes 22 History (http://www.rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html) says that the IMF was introduced in the early 80's. Page 9 of the sales literature from my original 1981 R22 purchase (http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20070918/b278663f/attachment.pdf) shows the option for the "Inner Mast Furling with the R-22 Sally-Sail Main" at $1,995. I do not think that it was a "deliverable item" when I purchased my '81. My 1991 R22 included IMF with a 2nd generation main and outhaul car. Mike s/v Wind Lass ('91) Nissequogue River, NY -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list Sent: Monday, July 15, 2019 5:25 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Mon Jul 15 18:17:32 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 18:17:32 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? Mary Lou ex- Rhodes 22 now Rosborough RF-246 On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From snstaum at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 21:57:53 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 21:57:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: My ?87 had IMF, my ?83 did not. Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mary Lou Troy wrote: > There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time > someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. > http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html > > Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several > years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? > > Mary Lou > ex- Rhodes 22 > now Rosborough RF-246 > > > On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from > my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > -- Stephen Staum Pariser Industries, Inc. From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Mon Jul 15 22:14:12 2019 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 19:14:12 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: I have a refurbished 86 with IMF. Cheers Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 6:58 PM Stephen Staum wrote: > My ?87 had IMF, my ?83 did not. > > Stephen Staum > s/v Carol Lee 2 > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mary Lou Troy > wrote: > > > There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time > > someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. > > http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html > > > > Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several > > years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? > > > > Mary Lou > > ex- Rhodes 22 > > now Rosborough RF-246 > > > > > > On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > > I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from > > my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone > > > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > -- > Stephen Staum > Pariser Industries, Inc. > From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Tue Jul 16 00:33:47 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 06:33:47 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: My 83 not refurbished has imf. Replaced all the plastic parts 10 years ago , still going strong. Chris Geankoplis ENOSIS On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 04:14, Shawn Boles wrote: > I have a refurbished 86 with IMF. > > > > Cheers > > Shawn > > s/v Sweet Baboo > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 6:58 PM Stephen Staum wrote: > > > > > My ?87 had IMF, my ?83 did not. > > > > > > Stephen Staum > > > s/v Carol Lee 2 > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mary Lou Troy > > > wrote: > > > > > > > There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time > > > > someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. > > > > http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html > > > > > > > > Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several > > > > years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? > > > > > > > > Mary Lou > > > > ex- Rhodes 22 > > > > now Rosborough RF-246 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > > > > I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent > from > > > > my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > > > -- > > > Stephen Staum > > > Pariser Industries, Inc. > > > > > From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Tue Jul 16 07:51:10 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 07:51:10 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: <80f1337f-0466-8e1a-b772-0d540a08a05a@atlanticbb.net> Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner - or at least a well narrowed down time frame. To summarize: 1981 advertised but not quite available yet at least not when Mike purchased his 1981. 1983 Chris Geankopolis purchased ENOSIS with IMF Note that not all boats had IMF once it was introduced - it was always an option. I believe some recycled boats may have started life with standard and then when recycled became IMF and possibly vice versa. Mary Lou ex R22 now Rosborough RF-246 On 7/16/2019 12:33 AM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > My 83 not refurbished has imf. Replaced all the plastic parts 10 years ago > , still going strong. > Chris Geankoplis > ENOSIS > > On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 at 04:14, Shawn Boles wrote: > >> I have a refurbished 86 with IMF. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Shawn >> >> s/v Sweet Baboo >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 6:58 PM Stephen Staum wrote: >> >> >> >>> My ?87 had IMF, my ?83 did not. >>> Stephen Staum >>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 6:18 PM Mary Lou Troy >>> wrote: >>>> There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time >>>> someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. >>>> http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html >>>> Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several >>>> years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? >>>> Mary Lou >>>> ex- Rhodes 22 >>>> now Rosborough RF-246 >>>> On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >>>>> I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent >> from >> >>>> my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone >>>> --- >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>> -- >>> Stephen Staum >>> Pariser Industries, Inc. >> From ric at stottarchitecture.com Tue Jul 16 09:07:22 2019 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 09:07:22 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: The roller reef mainsail advertised in the early ?80s brochure pertains to a boom roller. It came on our 1984 continental. It never worked very well. I use the reef points and tie it down- old school. Ric sv Dadventure Hampton Bays. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > > There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. > http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html > > Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? > > Mary Lou > ex- Rhodes 22 > now Rosborough RF-246 > > >> On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >> I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > From joedempsey at hughes.net Tue Jul 16 16:54:38 2019 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:54:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1563310478191-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Alex, It's somewhat of a Rubik's Cube. I'd suggest unpinning the ends and remove the Main Sheet blocks from the traveler. Twist and rotate the traveler bar until the lines are not twisted around the bar. They should all hang free. The jam cleats will be on top when you re-attach to the main sheet and boom. ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005 Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Tue Jul 16 18:29:39 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: When he refers to the Sally-Sail that's the in-Mast furling. Mike said his in-mast boat was 1983. ML On 7/16/2019 9:07 AM, Ric Stott wrote: > The roller reef mainsail advertised in the early ?80s brochure pertains to a boom roller. It came on our 1984 continental. It never worked very well. I use the reef points and tie it down- old school. > Ric > sv Dadventure > Hampton Bays. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: >> >> There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. >> http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html >> >> Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by several years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? >> >> Mary Lou >> ex- Rhodes 22 >> now Rosborough RF-246 >> >> >>> On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >>> I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Tue Jul 16 18:32:53 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:32:53 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What year was IMF introduced? In-Reply-To: References: <808f51b5-5820-5511-b321-fcf87008456f@atlanticbb.net> Message-ID: Correction it was Chris who said Enosis, his 83 boat was IMF ML On 7/16/2019 6:29 PM, Mary Lou Troy wrote: > When he refers to the Sally-Sail that's the in-Mast furling. Mike said > his in-mast boat was 1983. > > ML > > On 7/16/2019 9:07 AM, Ric Stott wrote: >> The roller reef mainsail advertised in the early ?80s brochure >> pertains to a boom roller. It came on our 1984 continental. It never >> worked very well. I use the reef points and tie it down- old school. >> Ric >> sv Dadventure >> Hampton Bays. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Mary Lou Troy >>> wrote: >>> >>> There is a brief history in the FAQ on the owner's site. At the time >>> someone speculated that IMF was introduced in the 1980s. >>> http://rhodes22.org/blew_skies/history.html >>> >>> Our boat was a 1991 and I always thought IMF predated her. by >>> several years, so maybe mid-to late 80s? >>> >>> Mary Lou >>> ex- Rhodes 22 >>> now Rosborough RF-246 >>> >>> >>>> On 7/15/2019 5:25 PM, CKLang--- via Rhodes22-list wrote: >>>> I looked on the website, but couldn't find the answer.CynthiaSent >>>> from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> > > From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Tue Jul 16 21:24:29 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 18:24:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes Message-ID: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday and I loved it. I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface looking through all the different threads. I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get to know my boat. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Tue Jul 16 21:32:39 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 01:32:39 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <8293691F-C350-4A39-8974-90D2BD814D9C@cowieassociates.com> Welcome Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Gmorganflier > wrote: Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday and I loved it. I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface looking through all the different threads. I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get to know my boat. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com Tue Jul 16 21:39:10 2019 From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 01:39:10 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: <1563310478191-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: , <1563310478191-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I don?t know about the Rubik?s cube, but I think I got this thanks to all the advice (and pic) I received! Thanks. Speaking of traveler (traveller?), I noticed the boat points quite well to the wind with the main sheeted in / traveler to windward. Actually, the main looks good but the jib (115, I believe) is luffing earlier than the main. Do you have the same experience? Alexis ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of JP Dempsey Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 4:54 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler Alex, It's somewhat of a Rubik's Cube. I'd suggest unpinning the ends and remove the Main Sheet blocks from the traveler. Twist and rotate the traveler bar until the lines are not twisted around the bar. They should all hang free. The jam cleats will be on top when you re-attach to the main sheet and boom. ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005 Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca Tue Jul 16 22:41:38 2019 From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 22:41:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <015501d53c49$2b3fd360$81bf7a20$@ca> Congratulations and welcome to the Rhodes group. Graham Stewart Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 Kingston Ontario (another 73 year old) -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Gmorganflier Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:24 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday and I loved it. I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface looking through all the different threads. I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get to know my boat. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From daysails at aol.com Tue Jul 16 23:27:31 2019 From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 03:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <015501d53c49$2b3fd360$81bf7a20$@ca> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <015501d53c49$2b3fd360$81bf7a20$@ca> Message-ID: <839676759.1394564.1563334051778@mail.yahoo.com> Welcome aboard George! Your IQ goes up and your age comes down when you own a Rhodes 22!? I think it? great that you met Stan and enrolled in the C of S.? ?You have the makings of a great sailor!? Welcome to da list!? Joe Riley s/v Second Wind? Lake Hartwell SC -----Or iginal Message----- From: Graham Stewart ! To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2019 10:41 pm Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes rea Congratulations and welcome to the Rhodes group. Graham Stewart Agile 1976 Rhodes 22 Kingston Ontario (another 73 year old) -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Gmorganflier Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 9:24 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday and I loved it. I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface looking through all the different threads. I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get to know my boat. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Tue Jul 16 23:38:36 2019 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:38:36 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Welcome! At the age of 76 I have found that the Rhodes is a perfect boat for those of us who like to sail as gentlemen. That said, she she is also lively as can be if you are so inclined. Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Tue, Jul 16, 2019, 6:24 PM Gmorganflier wrote: > Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. > > Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy > whom > I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday > and I loved it. > > I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in > Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate > of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner > of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do > even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. > > I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up > across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. > > The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back > it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. > > My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 > names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully > there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. > > The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface > looking through all the different threads. > > I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get > to know my boat. > > George Morgan > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > From snstaum at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 06:25:56 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 06:25:56 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Congratulations George and welcome to 'da list. I am sure you will have many hours and days of great sailing. Consider a mooring or slip in the future as it will add a lot more use to your schedule. I am on a mooring and often go out after work for either a short sail or just read, nap and relax on the boat. Beats having to launch and retrieve all the time. *Stephen Staum* *s/v Carol Lee 2* *Needham, MA* On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 9:24 PM Gmorganflier wrote: > Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. > > Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy > whom > I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday > and I loved it. > > I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in > Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate > of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner > of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do > even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. > > I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up > across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. > > The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back > it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. > > My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 > names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully > there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. > > The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface > looking through all the different threads. > > I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get > to know my boat. > > George Morgan > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > From ric at stottarchitecture.com Wed Jul 17 07:18:50 2019 From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 07:18:50 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <2BA6DC65-C7CB-4145-BE5A-FD87B16F2460@stottarchitecture.com> Welcome to the club George. It?s never to late to learn new things and sailing is one of the best skills to know. Enjoy your new floating university. Ric sv Dadventure HamptonBays Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Gmorganflier wrote: > > Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. > > Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom > I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday > and I loved it. > > I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in > Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate > of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner > of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do > even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. > > I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up > across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. > > The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back > it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. > > My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 > names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully > there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. > > The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface > looking through all the different threads. > > I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get > to know my boat. > > George Morgan > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com Wed Jul 17 14:22:54 2019 From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:22:54 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <89CFEBE5-0EA0-4FEB-B2CE-30B04A050D44@gmail.com> Great name George! I hope she is enjoyable for you. A very comfortable boat to sit it. Best cockpit design in the industry. Fair winds! Bob (Palatka Fl) > On Jul 16, 2019, at 9:24 PM, Gmorganflier wrote: > > Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. > > Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom > I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday > and I loved it. > > I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in > Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate > of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner > of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do > even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. > > I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up > across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. > > The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back > it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. > > My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 > names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully > there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. > > The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface > looking through all the different threads. > > I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get > to know my boat. > > George Morgan > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From keywestseccorp at verizon.net Wed Jul 17 16:40:56 2019 From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2019 20:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <96945198.1659633.1563396056868@mail.yahoo.com> hope you have a much fun with your R22 as we a having?Mark & Connie ?? S/v Fairwind II -----Original Message----- From: Gmorganflier To: rhodes22-list Sent: Tue, Jul 16, 2019 9:24 pm Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes Well...at 73 I?m taking on a new challenge...I?m going to learn to sail. Yesterday I bought a 1986 R22 refurbished in 2010. My new sailing buddy whom I bought the boat from took me out for a couple of hours sailing yesterday and I loved it. I know some may think it strange, but I met with Stan this morning in Edenton asking many questions and I handed him a check for the Certificate of Support. I?ve spent many hours researching the Rhodes list on all manner of subjects including the C of S. It just seemed like the right thing to do even though the future of General Boats is maybe uncertain. I?ll be keeping the boat in a boatyard on its trailer with the mast up across from the launching ramps at Southport Marina in Southport NC. The boat doesn?t have a name on the side although I believe two owners back it was called Nautisuarus based out of Chesapeake Bay. My name for the boat will be ?Knotty Lady?. I looked at a list of 27,000 names for actual boats and my choice of name didn?t show up...hopefully there aren?t hundreds of other boats out there with the same name. The list is a great resource and I?m sure I?ve just scratched the surface looking through all the different threads. I?m sure I will have many questions for the list as I learn to sail and get to know my boat. George Morgan -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From Colealexander at hotmail.com Thu Jul 18 21:03:32 2019 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:03:32 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1563498212955-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Welcome to sailing, and the Rhodes 22, George. Be warned, once the sailing bug is caught escape is all but impossible. Fortunately you will have no desire to cure this disease. Until we get past the worst of the summer heat you might consider a Bimini (if not so equipped). Once you get comfortable with the boat you may add evening / night sailing to dodge the worst of it. I share Stephen?s thought that you will use the boat more the easier it is. You made a good start by figuring out dry storage, mast up. at the ramp. It sounds like you have the prior owner for lessons? Part of the thrill of sailing to me is the ongoing growth. I just picked up a solo docking trick in a crosswind after a night sail with another boat. After decades I finally taught myself to splice a chain into a three strand anchor line this spring. There is always a new skill to learn. There are always people that know more to share them. I hang out in another more hardcore forum because the hardcore sailors take stuff for granted I didn?t know existed, and I chose to live in a sailing backwater. I?d improve little and make many expensive mistakes if left to my own devices. Alex Cole SV Lark ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 20:50:28 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 17:50:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] I Just Bought a Rhodes In-Reply-To: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563326669917-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1563670228215-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks to everyone for the kind words and encouragement. I?m looking forward to this new adventure. Geoege -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 17:35:42 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:35:42 +0300 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes in the Med Prequel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By the way Richard, I am beginning to think the attachment of the low pressure-Medicane system you sent me wasn't a joke. We actually did have some nasty thunderstorms for the next two days. You jinxed us or I totally missed the weather reports, or at least the right ones. Chris G Enosis On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 7:02 AM Chris Geankoplis wrote: > You dog Richard. Just saw your attachment. Very funny! > > On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 at 06:00, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > >> Yes a bit of wind on the crossing frommarina Ciro to Gallipoli. Should be >> Ok. Unless the forecast changes we will go. It is only 55nm. Today we have >> a long day, 75 nm. A 45 nm from Sicily to Capo spartavento then an >> additional 30 to a safe harbor at Rocelle Ionica. I think I?ll include a >> picture a day for a more current feel. Today, is crossing to Calabria, 5:30 >> am. Alice making >> >> On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 16:06, Richard Beytagh wrote: >> >>> Hey Chris...I hope you are safely tucked in somewhere along the southern >>> >>> Italian coast. Pretty nasty weather forecast for your area over the week >>> >>> end. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.this-is-italy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Italy-Hurricane.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~ _/) ~~~ >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard Beytagh >>> >>> Phone: 828 337 0180 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 4:08 PM Chris Geankoplis < >>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> > Attached is (hopefully) the first part of the journal of our trip >>> along the >>> >>> > Italian coast and on over to Greece (hopefully). I will try to bundle >>> the >>> >>> > days and send them out about every week or two. It depends on whether >>> I >>> >>> > have the time and the WiFi connections to do the postings at the same >>> >>> > time. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the journal and sail along with Alice >>> and >>> >>> > me on another grand adventure on our Rhodes. And to Stan; I am getting >>> >>> > closer to sending you a picture of the Rhodes in Rhodes on a rode in >>> Rhodes >>> >>> > road. Click on the attachment, or download it. >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KIopDLT-lUZmKKLBsHekj0zz97OBZuPH/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> > >>> >>> > Vibo Valentia, Calabria, Italy >>> >>> > June 27, 2019 >>> >>> > Chris Geankoplis >>> >>> > ENOSIS I >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, it hasn't been converted to electric but it has the fiberglass tiller, the 130 genoa (still in it's bag) pop top enclosure, cockpit cushions, blue bimini top, 2013 Tohatsu 6hp sailpro motor with tiller control and with only about 20 hrs of use. Oh, and I have both the new traveler and the genoa furling system that allows you to switch from the 170 to the 130 and back again. (never installed) All this gloriousness sits on a 2013 Triad trailer with no more than 1,100 miles on it. Picked up Baby Steps in Edenton and drove it 650 miles directly to East Greenwich RI. The trailer then made 5 trips of 88 miles back and forth to and from our home. The trailer was never used to launch the boat - the marina handled launching and recovery with their crane. If someone has $28,000 I would reluctantly part with it at a great loss, both financially and emotionally. Serious inquiries & questions can be sent to Mrbabins AT Gmail.com before I change my mind. P.S. There is a tear on the sunbrella fabric on the main sail caused by the sail trying to beat itself to death after breaking free from the IMF carriage shackle. There is also a small ding (quarter size) on the edge of a seat. ----- Marc B. s/v Baby Steps Westminster MA Sailing Narragansett Bay -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From jerry.keybl at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 11:23:56 2019 From: jerry.keybl at gmail.com (Jerry Keybl) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:23:56 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up Message-ID: Hi all, I'm a new (to me) Rhodes owner - I picked up my boat "Blue Beyond" from Stan at the end of June. After doing a few projects on land, I launched the boat about a week ago. After sailing a few times, I noticed that the sail doesn't fully furl into the mast - i think it is about a turn short. The furling line is fully extended. I think another wrap or two around the furler would fix the problem. I am now on a mooring and would really rather not drop the mast to correct. Has anyone been able to / have thoughts on adding a wrap with the mast up? Thanks! Jerry S/V Blue Beyond Salem MA From snstaum at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 11:38:11 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:38:11 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Welcome to ?da list Jerry. There should be the uv triangle sticking out of the mast. This is normal. If there is more than that I think you need the mast down & slide the assembly out of the mast to get additional wraps around the hub. I replaced my boom mount this year & made sure to wrap enough line when assembling. Where do you keep your boat? I was at Squantum Yacht Club in Quincy for 14 years & am now at Hingham Shipyard Marina. Good to have another Rhodes in MA. Stephen Staum s/v Carol Lee 2 Needham, MA On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM Jerry Keybl wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm a new (to me) Rhodes owner - I picked up my boat "Blue Beyond" from > Stan at the end of June. After doing a few projects on land, I launched > the boat about a week ago. > > After sailing a few times, I noticed that the sail doesn't fully furl into > the mast - i think it is about a turn short. The furling line is fully > extended. I think another wrap or two around the furler would fix the > problem. > > I am now on a mooring and would really rather not drop the mast to > correct. Has anyone been able to / have thoughts on adding a wrap with the > mast up? > > Thanks! > Jerry > S/V Blue Beyond > Salem MA > -- Stephen Staum Pariser Industries, Inc. From jerry.keybl at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 11:42:01 2019 From: jerry.keybl at gmail.com (jerry.keybl) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 08:42:01 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks Stephen. Yes, i have the sunbrella triangle out as well as a few inches of the canvas sails. I was hoping I wouldn't have to drop the sail. I have the boat on a mooring at the Hawthorne Cove marina in Salem. Thanks, Jerry Stephen Staum-2 wrote > Welcome to ?da list Jerry. There should be the uv triangle sticking out > of > the mast. This is normal. If there is more than that I think you need the > mast down & slide the assembly out of the mast to get additional wraps > around the hub. I replaced my boom mount this year & made sure to wrap > enough line when assembling. > > Where do you keep your boat? I was at Squantum Yacht Club in Quincy for > 14 > years & am now at Hingham Shipyard Marina. Good to have another Rhodes in > MA. > > Stephen Staum > s/v Carol Lee 2 > Needham, MA > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM Jerry Keybl < > jerry.keybl@ > > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm a new (to me) Rhodes owner - I picked up my boat "Blue Beyond" from >> Stan at the end of June. After doing a few projects on land, I launched >> the boat about a week ago. >> >> After sailing a few times, I noticed that the sail doesn't fully furl >> into >> the mast - i think it is about a turn short. The furling line is fully >> extended. I think another wrap or two around the furler would fix the >> problem. >> >> I am now on a mooring and would really rather not drop the mast to >> correct. Has anyone been able to / have thoughts on adding a wrap with >> the >> mast up? >> >> Thanks! >> Jerry >> S/V Blue Beyond >> Salem MA >> > -- > Stephen Staum > Pariser Industries, Inc. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From borderfolle at yahoo.com Tue Jul 23 12:05:33 2019 From: borderfolle at yahoo.com (Donald Simons) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> Jerry, I have dealt with this before.? If you need another wrap or two on the furling drum, I found that it can be done with the mast up. I taped a string to the end of the furling line and pulled it out of the boom through the hole in the forward end of the boom.? Disconnect the string.? It will be used for pulling the furling line back thru the boom.? I used a bendable piece of wire to fish the tail of the furling line around the drum a turn or two.? A pair of needle-nose pliers can help too.? Then re-attach the string and pull it out the aft hole in the boom.? A piece of wire that will hold a bend and some patience are the keys to doing this. I hope this helps. Don,? Ithaca, NY On Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 11:42:07 AM EDT, jerry.keybl wrote: Thanks Stephen.? Yes, i have the sunbrella triangle out as well as a few inches of the canvas sails.? I was hoping I wouldn't have to drop the sail. I have the boat on a mooring at the Hawthorne Cove marina in Salem. Thanks, Jerry Stephen Staum-2 wrote > Welcome to ?da list Jerry.? There should be the uv triangle sticking out > of > the mast. This is normal. If there is more than that I think you need the > mast down & slide the assembly out of the mast to get additional wraps > around the hub.? I replaced my boom mount this year & made sure to wrap > enough line when assembling. > > Where do you keep your boat?? I was at Squantum Yacht Club in Quincy for > 14 > years & am now at Hingham Shipyard Marina.? Good to have another Rhodes in > MA. > > Stephen Staum > s/v Carol Lee 2 > Needham, MA > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM Jerry Keybl < > jerry.keybl@ > > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm a new (to me) Rhodes owner - I picked up my boat "Blue Beyond" from >> Stan at the end of June.? After doing a few projects on land, I launched >> the boat about a week ago. >> >> After sailing a few times, I noticed that the sail doesn't fully furl >> into >> the mast - i think it is about a turn short.? The furling line is fully >> extended.? I think another wrap or two around the furler would fix the >> problem. >> >> I am now on a mooring and would really rather not drop the mast to >> correct.? Has anyone been able to / have thoughts on adding a wrap with >> the >> mast up? >> >> Thanks! >> Jerry >> S/V Blue Beyond >> Salem MA >> > -- > Stephen Staum > Pariser Industries, Inc. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From cknell at vt.edu Tue Jul 23 12:07:59 2019 From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:07:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1563898079149-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Jerry, I had the same problem a month ago. I put a new mainsail on the IMF at the beginning of the season. Furling the sail in the first heavy wind caused it to wrap tighter than I was able to wrap it by hand so I did not have enough turns of the furling line on the IMF barrel. I was able to add turns without dropping the mast. With the sail furled as far as the furling line would allow, I passed a small wire through the slot in the block that connects the goose neck to the mast. This slot on my boat is right at the furling barrel of the IMF. I used this wire as a messenger line to pull the furling line an additional turn around the barrel. I had to do this twice to furl the main to the sunbrella triangle. Hope this helps. Chris on LBI ----- Long Beach Island -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From blue66corvette at hotmail.com Tue Jul 23 14:29:26 2019 From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:29:26 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have done what Don is describing; it?s really pretty easy. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone Charles Nieman > On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:05 AM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > Jerry, > I have dealt with this before. If you need another wrap or two on the furling drum, I found that it can be done with the mast up. > I taped a string to the end of the furling line and pulled it out of the boom through the hole in the forward end of the boom. Disconnect the string. It will be used for pulling the furling line back thru the boom. I used a bendable piece of wire to fish the tail of the furling line around the drum a turn or two. A pair of needle-nose pliers can help too. Then re-attach the string and pull it out the aft hole in the boom. A piece of wire that will hold a bend and some patience are the keys to doing this. > I hope this helps. > Don, Ithaca, NY > On Tuesday, July 23, 2019, 11:42:07 AM EDT, jerry.keybl wrote: > > Thanks Stephen. Yes, i have the sunbrella triangle out as well as a few > inches of the canvas sails. I was hoping I wouldn't have to drop the sail. > > I have the boat on a mooring at the Hawthorne Cove marina in Salem. > > Thanks, > Jerry > > > Stephen Staum-2 wrote >> Welcome to ?da list Jerry. There should be the uv triangle sticking out >> of >> the mast. This is normal. If there is more than that I think you need the >> mast down & slide the assembly out of the mast to get additional wraps >> around the hub. I replaced my boom mount this year & made sure to wrap >> enough line when assembling. >> >> Where do you keep your boat? I was at Squantum Yacht Club in Quincy for >> 14 >> years & am now at Hingham Shipyard Marina. Good to have another Rhodes in >> MA. >> >> Stephen Staum >> s/v Carol Lee 2 >> Needham, MA >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM Jerry Keybl < > >> jerry.keybl@ > >> > wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm a new (to me) Rhodes owner - I picked up my boat "Blue Beyond" from >>> Stan at the end of June. After doing a few projects on land, I launched >>> the boat about a week ago. >>> >>> After sailing a few times, I noticed that the sail doesn't fully furl >>> into >>> the mast - i think it is about a turn short. The furling line is fully >>> extended. I think another wrap or two around the furler would fix the >>> problem. >>> >>> I am now on a mooring and would really rather not drop the mast to >>> correct. Has anyone been able to / have thoughts on adding a wrap with >>> the >>> mast up? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Jerry >>> S/V Blue Beyond >>> Salem MA >>> >> -- >> Stephen Staum >> Pariser Industries, Inc. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From jerry.keybl at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 15:42:09 2019 From: jerry.keybl at gmail.com (jerry.keybl) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:42:09 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1563910929232-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks all! I'll give it a try this weekend. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From snstaum at gmail.com Tue Jul 23 18:25:29 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:25:29 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: <1563910929232-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> <1563910929232-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jerry, You will love this list as it is full of creative people with good solutions to everyday problems. *Stephen Staum* *s/v Carol Lee 2* *Needham, MA* On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 3:42 PM jerry.keybl wrote: > Thanks all! I'll give it a try this weekend. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > From Keithwade at email.com Tue Jul 23 19:34:48 2019 From: Keithwade at email.com (Rocartfe2) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:34:48 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> <1563910929232-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1563924888323-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I just got my main sail delivered today from Stan. This thread has made me think to make a few wraps of the furling line before I even start rolling up the sail. Hope to have my first sailing adventure on the 3rd of August. K. Gard S/V Old Soul ----- Keith G. St. Mary's County MD -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From snstaum at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 06:26:38 2019 From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 06:26:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Adding wraps to IMF with mast up In-Reply-To: <1563924888323-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1563896521225-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <740236431.3329103.1563897933624@mail.yahoo.com> <1563910929232-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1563924888323-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Good luck Keith! *Stephen Staum* *s/v Carol Lee 2* *Needham, MA* On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:34 PM Rocartfe2 wrote: > I just got my main sail delivered today from Stan. This thread has made me > think to make a few wraps of the furling line before I even start rolling > up > the sail. Hope to have my first sailing adventure on the 3rd of August. > > K. Gard > S/V Old Soul > > > > ----- > Keith G. > St. Mary's County MD > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > From jschroll at msn.com Thu Jul 25 21:03:36 2019 From: jschroll at msn.com (Jim Schroll) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 01:03:36 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Crack in Transom - Part Two Message-ID: Several weeks ago, I posted a message about a crack that had developed in the transom immediately adjacent to the track that the engine elevator guide wheel runs along. In the meantime, I?ve gotten some estimates which convinced me to try the repair myself and spent as much time as three knowledgable folks were willing to spend with me developing a plan of action. At that point, the heat and humidity kicked in. 50 years after developing diabetes and 18 years after sextuple bypass surgery, I don?t do heat and humidity, so I?m just now getting to start the work. The plan was to cup out the outside so that I can lay several sheets of fiberglass on it and then sand it to a smooth finish. I don?t want to have a high point from extra layers as that may just create a new stress point. On the inside, the plan was to place several layers of fiberglass back by a piece of marine plywood, filling the space between the two piece of wood backing the engine elevator side rails. Attached below (I hope) are pictures of the current state of affairs. On the outside I have started sanding out the cup. I still need to go farther up and to the right so as to have enough overlap of the cloth. As you can see just above and to the right of the center of the sanded area, it appears as thought there was some sort of circular through hull opening at one time which was plugged. The crack goes around half of the plug, and I suspect the relative weakness the repair contributed to the formation of the crack. You can also see a series of holes in a vertical line left of center. The top one in the sanded area and one above it (Half visible) were where the elevator motor mounting bolts went through. The bottom hole in the vertical line was where the bolt on the bottom of the guide track went through. The others, including one which is still plugged were, presumably, left over from an earlier engine mount or something else. [cid:6E6286FF-25EB-46EA-B655-7DA5F7A63525 at fios-router.home] On the inside, I had to chisel away the 1/4? plywood onto which the elevator was mounted You will see that a little bit of the plywood remains to be sanded away; I didn?t want to risk chiseling a new hole through the transom. I will do more sanding on the inside as well, but I don?t know that I will be able to get it perfectly smooth and flat without risking opening up the cracked area more. My current thinking, pending another visit to one of my experts and/or comments from this group, is to try to put a wedge of epoxy with filler material on the inside, creating a flat surface. I?d use a plastic scraper cut to fir between the two elevator rail boards. When that is dried and sanded, I?ll apply three or four layers of glass, then epoxy a new piece of 1/2 or 3/4 inch marine plywood to that. If there is still room to maneuver, I?ll try to put at least one layer of glass over than to tie the wood into the transom an bottom of the hull. [cid:4B395ADE-1341-45BD-8135-F41C8DCFF822 at fios-router.home] Comments and suggestions would be most welcomed. Jim Schroll -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedGraphic-1.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 613196 bytes Desc: PastedGraphic-1.tiff URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PastedGraphic-2.tiff Type: image/tiff Size: 565284 bytes Desc: PastedGraphic-2.tiff URL: From Colealexander at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 00:07:11 2019 From: Colealexander at hotmail.com (S/V Lark) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:07:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Crack in Transom - Part Two In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1564114031266-0.post@n5.nabble.com> It definitely looks like a hole was plugged. I assume this is inboard of the factory through hull for the cockpit seat drain? I suspect it was a plug for damage from a prior non factory motor mount that pulled out of and damaged the transom. Or maybe a motor was run with a bad prop and vibrated the back of your boat to bits? If the plug is solid I don?t know if you should remove it or trust it. If it was added by Stan?s shop it was probably done right. If it was done by some bass boat or corvette guy, maybe not. I bet the crack was a tiny hairline only at that time but spread like a damaged windshield. You need to drill another hole in the bottom of the crack, to stop its spread. I would also widen the crack to a couple mm with a jigsaw. Cover one side with tape and inject the defect with epoxy. Dry it with acetone first. I think you also need to sand more, to get past the original blue gellcoat and the inside to raw fiberglass as well. Others can better advise on the best epoxy, I made mistakes which affected painting on my 1976 first boat, from ignorance and limited local supply. Order three times as much of the right stuff as you think you need. When the crack is filled you can add new structure with woven tape and more epoxy, then fair it. Wear a mask and ventilate. This should be easy (flat surface and accessible) with enough power tools. Alex Cole SV Lark ----- Alex Cole S/V Lark -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 23:56:10 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 20:56:10 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit Message-ID: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> As I posted a few days ago, I?ve just bought a beautiful 1986 Rhodes refurbed in 2010. I?ve spent very little time on the boat and don?t pick it up until this Monday. The boat has many neat features including the electric motor lift. I may be unnecessarily worrying about this, but I worry about a 2500 lb pull winch not stopping when it should while raising the motor, either through a malfunction or some stupid mistake I or someone else might make. I?ve been playing with an idea I?d like to post and get some feedback from others who may have thought about this and anyone who knows more about diodes than the very limited knowledge I have. I hope my PDF will show up on this post. Since I didn?t have the boat in front of me when I started designing this, I have no idea if it is feasible. Basically I envision the motor coming up and when it is the proper height, some part of the motor or lift system pushes a lever when extends through the transom into the lazarette. (a small hole would need to be drilled through the transom, perhaps with some sort of rubber boot to semi seal the opening) This lever pushes on a spring loaded rod and breaks the circuit for the up current stopping the lift motor. The diode would prevent any current flowing to the up side when the circuit is broken, but would allow the reverse current to lower the motor. The diode and contacts would be enclosed in some sort of plastic electrical box. One question I have for those with electrical knowledge is what diode would I use for a 12V 30 amp circuit? Thanks for looking at this crazy idea, George Morgan Lift_cutout.pdf -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 07:12:39 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 04:12:39 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit In-Reply-To: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564312359691-0.post@n5.nabble.com> I forgot to add that I actually tried tried to think of some way to use a solenoid and microswitch to stop the motor, but with my limited electrical knowledge, I could not come up with a system which wasn't drawing a small current when in either the down or up position. I decided if I wanted to attempt this, I would need some mechanical way to break the circuit . George -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rca02536 at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 13:45:07 2019 From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 13:45:07 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sail rips Message-ID: <2C1BABF3-02A2-4589-BA68-2C4EFF593A31@gmail.com> Hi all, Discovered some tears in the mainsail high on the leach. any ideas on how to reach it without removing the IMF? Bob Allen s/v air force From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 23:16:58 2019 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:16:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Message-ID: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hi everyone, I'm now a Rhodes 22 owner. My boat arrived to Council Bluffs, Iowa from Florida on Thursday night, a friend and I put the mast up on Friday night after work, and I took it sailing on Saturday and Sunday. For the first couple of sails I went with some experienced people at our club. The Rhodes 22 isn't quite like anything else around here so it really sticks out from the usual boats around this size. It is quite popular! On the first trip out, I had yet to do a formal tuning. Wind was 12-14 knots. I was having issues with the boom getting stuck on the back stay, which led to some exciting moments when I wanted to de-power by letting out the sheet but it was stuck. Simply pushing on the back stay let the boom go out but I obviously have something incorrect. With the help of a friend who had a Loo's guage, this morning we tuned the rigging according to the IMF instructions posted by Roger Pihlaja at the link below. http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/Rhodes22-RigTuning.doc The upper sidestays are at 300 lb and the lower sidestays are at 200 lb. While under sail I have the backstay tensioner cleated off, though I neglected to measure the tension with the guage. I'm still having issues with the boom hitting the backstay. There are a couple of work arounds: 1. Lower the main (requires the pop top to be down) and lowers boom clearance for everyone in the cockpit 2. Pull the traveler bar slightly towards the rear rail with a load strap. This isn't ideal since it puts some bend in the back stays where it is not intended. I forgot to take a photo of the whole stern to show entire setup, but I attached a couple of photos that provide some perspective. One shows how I used a load strap to pull the traveler bar slightly towards the rear rail. The second is me (starboard side in blue life jacket where you can see the traveler bar, backstays, and the backstay tensioner. The third shows how much clearance there is for the boom against the backstay when there is low wind and I have the traveler bar pulled back some as I mentioned earlier. -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Sun Jul 28 23:20:35 2019 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 20:20:35 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. I'm only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly questions. Thanks! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Sun Jul 28 23:53:56 2019 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 03:53:56 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jessie, My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from less weather helm after you make this adjustment. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: > > > > I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. I'm > only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly > questions. Thanks! > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From shawn.sustain at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 02:27:18 2019 From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2019 23:27:18 -0700 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Hi: The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on port/starboard. Stan is quite clear about this. Put your gauge away... Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > Jessie, > > My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be > shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The > upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your > owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. > Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from > less weather helm after you make this adjustment. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilbrium > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: > > > > > > > > I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. > I'm > > only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly > > questions. Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > From stan at generalboats.com Mon Jul 29 03:39:38 2019 From: stan at generalboats.com (stan) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 03:39:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Thanks Shawn.? The windward shrouds *automatically* tighten to exactly what is needed to make the boat heel match the mast heel.? You can tell if a Rhodes shrouds have been tightened by a pro by noticing how the hull shape has been distorted. Jessie, two issues:? If you have an early boat you may have a short mast top fitting.? The other: The boom should be naturally relatively horizontal when sailing.? If you have an alien sail that raises the aft end of the boom in order to be able to be attached to the boom, the boom will not manage the shortening space between mast and back stay (the hypotenuse of the triangle that the boom, back stays and mast form). I have a nice recycled Rhodes with new boat guarantee for you, if all else fails.? Or alternately having a GB Certificate of Support that gets you into that community of Rhodies wanting their boat to keep being a "boat in production" would help you. stan On 7/29/19 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles wrote: > Hi: > > The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The > fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on > port/starboard. > > Stan is quite clear about this. > > > Put your gauge away... > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > > From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Jul 29 07:35:02 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:35:02 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , Message-ID: Jesse I don?t see the topping lift connected to the boom in your photo, I also don?t see the back stay adjusters. Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles > wrote: Hi: The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on port/starboard. Stan is quite clear about this. Put your gauge away... Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA > wrote: Jessie, My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from less weather helm after you make this adjustment. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. I'm only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly questions. Thanks! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From ccowie at cowieassociates.com Mon Jul 29 07:39:33 2019 From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 11:39:33 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , , Message-ID: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> Jesse Look at the 360 images of my boat at the link below to see the back stay adjusters, that might be the problem you are having. https://www.voilieryachts.com/boat-a909 Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: Jesse I don?t see the topping lift connected to the boom in your photo, I also don?t see the back stay adjusters. Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles > wrote: Hi: The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on port/starboard. Stan is quite clear about this. Put your gauge away... Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA > wrote: Jessie, My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from less weather helm after you make this adjustment. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. I'm only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly questions. Thanks! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com Mon Jul 29 08:19:32 2019 From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:19:32 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , , , <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: Jessie, I took another look at your photos. It does appear that you have no boom topping lift. But, this would not cause the end of the boom to hit the backstays. The topping lift supports the aft end of the boom when the mainsail is not in use or when the wind is so light that you want to take the weight of the boom off the mainsail for the purpose of achieving better light air sail shape. If the topping lift is adjusted too high; then, you could have an issue with the end of the boom hitting the backstays. But, since your topping lift isn?t even hooked up, you don?t have that issue. Your backstays appear to be tight and I see what looks like the backstay adjuster rigged down to the port side of the transom. I presume the backstay adjuster tackle is simply too high & out of view the picture. Chris is correct. If the backstays are too loose; then, you could have an issue with the boom hitting the backstays. But, that does not appear to be the case. I am assuming the boom is at the standard height? If the boom is too high on the mast for some reason; then, that could cause the end of the boom to hit the backstays. But, the inner mast furling mechanism pretty much sets the boom height. So, unless you have something else, it?s hard to understand how the gooseneck could be too high on the mast. Once again, I come back to the hypothesis that your mast is reclined too far aft. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Chris Cowie Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39:33 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Jesse Look at the 360 images of my boat at the link below to see the back stay adjusters, that might be the problem you are having. https://www.voilieryachts.com/boat-a909 Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: Jesse I don?t see the topping lift connected to the boom in your photo, I also don?t see the back stay adjusters. Please note our new office address and phone number Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] 700 N Fairfax Street Suite 304 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles > wrote: Hi: The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on port/starboard. Stan is quite clear about this. Put your gauge away... Cheers, Shawn s/v Sweet Baboo On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA > wrote: Jessie, My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from less weather helm after you make this adjustment. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. I'm only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly questions. Thanks! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rbeytagh at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 09:41:15 2019 From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 09:41:15 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: You don't appear to have the back-stay tensioner on correctly. Make sure you have a double-purchase on the back-stay block and tackle. The 2 back-stays should be quite loose before tensioning and close together when tensioned. It's difficult to explain so I am attaching a crude diagram ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:19 AM ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > Jessie, > > > > I took another look at your photos. It does appear that you have no boom > topping lift. But, this would not cause the end of the boom to hit the > backstays. The topping lift supports the aft end of the boom when the > mainsail is not in use or when the wind is so light that you want to take > the weight of the boom off the mainsail for the purpose of achieving better > light air sail shape. If the topping lift is adjusted too high; then, you > could have an issue with the end of the boom hitting the backstays. But, > since your topping lift isn?t even hooked up, you don?t have that issue. > > > > Your backstays appear to be tight and I see what looks like the backstay > adjuster rigged down to the port side of the transom. I presume the > backstay adjuster tackle is simply too high & out of view the picture. > Chris is correct. If the backstays are too loose; then, you could have an > issue with the boom hitting the backstays. But, that does not appear to be > the case. > > > > I am assuming the boom is at the standard height? If the boom is too high > on the mast for some reason; then, that could cause the end of the boom to > hit the backstays. But, the inner mast furling mechanism pretty much sets > the boom height. So, unless you have something else, it?s hard to > understand how the gooseneck could be too high on the mast. > > > > Once again, I come back to the hypothesis that your mast is reclined too > far aft. > > > > Roger Pihlaja > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Chris Cowie > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39:33 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays > > Jesse > Look at the 360 images of my boat at the link below to see the back stay > adjusters, that might be the problem you are having. > https://www.voilieryachts.com/boat-a909 > > > > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: > > Jesse > I don?t see the topping lift connected to the boom in your photo, I also > don?t see the back stay adjusters. > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles shawn.sustain at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi: > > The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The > fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on > port/starboard. > > Stan is quite clear about this. > > > Put your gauge away... > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote: > > Jessie, > > My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be > shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The > upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your > owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. > Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from > less weather helm after you make this adjustment. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilbrium > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: > > > > I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. > I'm > only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly > questions. Thanks! > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: backstay.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 103570 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com Mon Jul 29 10:00:14 2019 From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:00:14 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> , Message-ID: Jessie, This is ridiculous! Please take 2 photos. The 1st photo needs to show the entire backstay adjuster. The 2nd photo should be from the side of the boat from far enough away to show the entire side elevation and the entire mast. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Richard Beytagh Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 9:41:15 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays You don't appear to have the back-stay tensioner on correctly. Make sure you have a double-purchase on the back-stay block and tackle. The 2 back-stays should be quite loose before tensioning and close together when tensioned. It's difficult to explain so I am attaching a crude diagram ~~~ _/) ~~~ Richard Beytagh Phone: 828 337 0180 Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 8:19 AM ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > Jessie, > > > > I took another look at your photos. It does appear that you have no boom > topping lift. But, this would not cause the end of the boom to hit the > backstays. The topping lift supports the aft end of the boom when the > mainsail is not in use or when the wind is so light that you want to take > the weight of the boom off the mainsail for the purpose of achieving better > light air sail shape. If the topping lift is adjusted too high; then, you > could have an issue with the end of the boom hitting the backstays. But, > since your topping lift isn?t even hooked up, you don?t have that issue. > > > > Your backstays appear to be tight and I see what looks like the backstay > adjuster rigged down to the port side of the transom. I presume the > backstay adjuster tackle is simply too high & out of view the picture. > Chris is correct. If the backstays are too loose; then, you could have an > issue with the boom hitting the backstays. But, that does not appear to be > the case. > > > > I am assuming the boom is at the standard height? If the boom is too high > on the mast for some reason; then, that could cause the end of the boom to > hit the backstays. But, the inner mast furling mechanism pretty much sets > the boom height. So, unless you have something else, it?s hard to > understand how the gooseneck could be too high on the mast. > > > > Once again, I come back to the hypothesis that your mast is reclined too > far aft. > > > > Roger Pihlaja > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Chris Cowie > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 7:39:33 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays > > Jesse > Look at the 360 images of my boat at the link below to see the back stay > adjusters, that might be the problem you are having. > https://www.voilieryachts.com/boat-a909 > > > > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Chris Cowie > wrote: > > Jesse > I don?t see the topping lift connected to the boom in your photo, I also > don?t see the back stay adjusters. > > > Please note our new office address and phone number > > Christopher P. Cowie [cid:image001.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > [cid:image002.png at 01CA3AD3.5BD581F0] > > 700 N Fairfax Street > Suite 304 > Alexandria, Virginia 22314 > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 > mobile > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com] > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01D24014.7A2D04E0] > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > On Jul 29, 2019, at 2:27 AM, Shawn Boles shawn.sustain at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi: > > The rig is w/ fore stay and back stays adjusted so mast is vertical. The > fore/center/aft shrouds should be equally ***hand-tight*** on > port/starboard. > > Stan is quite clear about this. > > > Put your gauge away... > > Cheers, > Shawn > s/v Sweet Baboo > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 8:54 PM ROGER PIHLAJA roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> wrote: > > Jessie, > > My guess is your mast is reclined too far aft. The forestay needs to be > shorter. There should be a turnbuckle under the roller furling drum. The > upper and lower sidestays will need to be adjusted as well. Check your > owner?s manual for instructions on setting up the standing rigging. > Besides not having the boom hit the backstays, you will also benefit from > less weather helm after you make this adjustment. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilbrium > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 28, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jesse Shumaker < > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sorry, accidentally submitted before adding the additional photos: > > > > I must have something setup wrong so any advice would be appreciated. > I'm > only a year into sailing so I apologize in advance for asking silly > questions. Thanks! > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > > Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: backstay.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 103570 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stan at generalboats.com Mon Jul 29 12:53:40 2019 From: stan at generalboats.com (stan) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 12:53:40 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Refurbished Rhodes Message-ID: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> To all those considering a refurbished Rhodes22, we would like to point out again that the Rhodes value is, to a major degree, due to the fact that it remains a boat in production. In order to be fair to those who support General Boats efforts in keeping the Rhodes 22 a boat in production for its second 50 years, refurbished Rhodes purchased from an unauthorized source, will have a boat that is no longer recognized by General Boats, as a Rhodes built by General Boats and therefore such owners will not be able to turn to General Boats for any proprietary Rhodes parts or services. The business plan of such a rogue company is to cash in on all General Boats investments in innovating and promoting the Rhodes sailboat to maintain its historic longevity position as the leading trailing still in production sailboat.? The rogue business plan is based on their being a hitch hiking company, not needing to contribute a single dollar to maintaining the high name recognition value of the Rhodes boats they seek to recycle. It is important Rhodes buyers understand that the purchase of a recycled Rhodes from a company like Voilier is akin to shooting ones self in the foot. stan From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Mon Jul 29 22:49:50 2019 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 19:49:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> Message-ID: <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be able to get it in the water is Sunday. Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was installed by the prior owner a few years ago. 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on during light wind. 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before tightening the forestay. 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height which allows for sailing with the pop top up. 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks in advance for your help! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Tue Jul 30 01:59:45 2019 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 05:59:45 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> , <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jessie, OK, one quick remark regarding the way your backstay adjuster is rigged ... The lines between the blocks should not crisscross like they are in the photo. The lines should run fairly thru the blocks without crossing over each other. But, even with the way the tackle is rigged, you have the backstays under sufficient tension. So, loose backstays are not the problem. Similarly, the side elevation shots show the angle of the mast rake is ~ correct. So, this is not what is causing the boom to hit the backstays. Therefore, you do not need to shorten the forestay. To my eye, your boom looks like it is riding too high on the mast. If you could lower the boom by a couple of inches, that would eliminate the boom/backstay interference. Other than that, I don?t have any other suggestions. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs > last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the > boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I > wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat > regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as > it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The > photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be > able to get it in the water is Sunday. > > Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: > 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in > 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the > country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. > 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was > installed by the prior owner a few years ago. > 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just > before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on > during light wind. > 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take > out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need > to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the > line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit > late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I > assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before > tightening the forestay. > 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for > the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it > took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? > 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height > which allows for sailing with the pop top up. > 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing > the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set > appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From boendert at me.com Tue Jul 30 03:01:16 2019 From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:01:16 +0200 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <53E22028-AECF-48D5-8849-33C8946B7C45@me.com> Jesse, It?s always been an issue. Not really sure the best way to address. Just be sure you?re not tightening the rigging more than hand tight. No tools with the IMF. Cheers, Ted S/V AIRPOWER 1991/2013 R22 Jacksonville, FL > On Jul 30, 2019, at 7:59 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > > Jessie, > > OK, one quick remark regarding the way your backstay adjuster is rigged ... The lines between the blocks should not crisscross like they are in the photo. The lines should run fairly thru the blocks without crossing over each other. But, even with the way the tackle is rigged, you have the backstays under sufficient tension. So, loose backstays are not the problem. > > Similarly, the side elevation shots show the angle of the mast rake is ~ correct. So, this is not what is causing the boom to hit the backstays. Therefore, you do not need to shorten the forestay. > > To my eye, your boom looks like it is riding too high on the mast. If you could lower the boom by a couple of inches, that would eliminate the boom/backstay interference. > > Other than that, I don?t have any other suggestions. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilbrium > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: >> >> Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs >> last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the >> boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I >> wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat >> regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as >> it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The >> photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be >> able to get it in the water is Sunday. >> >> Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: >> 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in >> 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the >> country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. >> 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was >> installed by the prior owner a few years ago. >> 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just >> before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on >> during light wind. >> 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take >> out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need >> to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the >> line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit >> late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I >> assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before >> tightening the forestay. >> 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for >> the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it >> took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? >> 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height >> which allows for sailing with the pop top up. >> 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing >> the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set >> appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. >> >> Thanks in advance for your help! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From talmorin at hotmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:07:51 2019 From: talmorin at hotmail.com (Thomas s) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:07:51 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> , <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com>, Message-ID: I have to agree with Roger. The boom looks high, but it is tough to be sure. Maybe next time you are at the boat you can take a measurement from the bottom of the mast to the bottom of the car or goose-neck. That way it could be compared to another Rhodie's. It wouldn't take much to make a difference. Tom S/V Just Bent ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of ROGER PIHLAJA Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:59 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Jessie, OK, one quick remark regarding the way your backstay adjuster is rigged ... The lines between the blocks should not crisscross like they are in the photo. The lines should run fairly thru the blocks without crossing over each other. But, even with the way the tackle is rigged, you have the backstays under sufficient tension. So, loose backstays are not the problem. Similarly, the side elevation shots show the angle of the mast rake is ~ correct. So, this is not what is causing the boom to hit the backstays. Therefore, you do not need to shorten the forestay. To my eye, your boom looks like it is riding too high on the mast. If you could lower the boom by a couple of inches, that would eliminate the boom/backstay interference. Other than that, I don?t have any other suggestions. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs > last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the > boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I > wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat > regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as > it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The > photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be > able to get it in the water is Sunday. > > Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: > 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in > 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the > country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. > 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was > installed by the prior owner a few years ago. > 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just > before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on > during light wind. > 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take > out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need > to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the > line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit > late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I > assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before > tightening the forestay. > 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for > the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it > took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? > 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height > which allows for sailing with the pop top up. > 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing > the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set > appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From spreadgoodnews at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:28:31 2019 From: spreadgoodnews at gmail.com (Goodness) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 09:28:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jesse: To my eye it looks like an easy fix. First of all only hand tighten your rig. No tension measurements. Overtightening rigs is always a bad idea and causes equipment failure. The tangs on the back of the boom seem to be the problem. Use the bent one for the topping lift and find a tiny shackle and get rid of the large carabiner. Also i would only use 1/4? line (or even paracord) for a topping lift. You may need to bend that tang a little more. Also make sure the bolt is tight in the end of the boom with just enough space to let the tangs swivel. Tolerances on this part of the rig are very tight and small adjustments should make the boom swing without restriction. Bob (palatka) > On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs > last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the > boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I > wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat > regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as > it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The > photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be > able to get it in the water is Sunday. > > Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: > 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in > 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the > country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. > 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was > installed by the prior owner a few years ago. > 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just > before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on > during light wind. > 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take > out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need > to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the > line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit > late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I > assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before > tightening the forestay. > 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for > the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it > took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? > 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height > which allows for sailing with the pop top up. > 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing > the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set > appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rlowe at vt.edu Tue Jul 30 10:03:56 2019 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:03:56 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> , <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: I'm leaning towards the boom being too high too. With the pop top up, how much clearance is there between the boom and the pop top? Should be very little. The boom can be raised and lowered. Is there a pin at the gooseneck that can be pulled and the boom lowered? There should be a couple of holes where the pin and reside in as the boom moves up and down. Maybe drop it down and see if the boom clears the backstays. - rob -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:00 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Jessie, OK, one quick remark regarding the way your backstay adjuster is rigged ... The lines between the blocks should not crisscross like they are in the photo. The lines should run fairly thru the blocks without crossing over each other. But, even with the way the tackle is rigged, you have the backstays under sufficient tension. So, loose backstays are not the problem. Similarly, the side elevation shots show the angle of the mast rake is ~ correct. So, this is not what is causing the boom to hit the backstays. Therefore, you do not need to shorten the forestay. To my eye, your boom looks like it is riding too high on the mast. If you could lower the boom by a couple of inches, that would eliminate the boom/backstay interference. Other than that, I don?t have any other suggestions. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilbrium Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Jesse Shumaker wrote: > > Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better > photographs last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first > weekend with the boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos > from tonight, but I wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before > sunset. A caveat regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat > is not perfectly level as it is parked on the trailer since the > pavement is on a slight incline. The photos of the boat in the water > are from the weekend. The next time I'll be able to get it in the water is Sunday. > > Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: > 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished > in 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of > the country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. > 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that > was installed by the prior owner a few years ago. > 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just > before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it > on during light wind. > 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take > out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need > to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move > the line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was > a bit late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this > yet. Also I assume that I may need to release tension on the lower > aft stays before tightening the forestay. > 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb > for the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand > though it took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? > 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the > height which allows for sailing with the pop top up. > 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos > showing the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine > is set appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. > > Thanks in advance for your help! > > jpg> > ck.jpg> > > WithBoom.jpg> > WithBoomZoom1.jpg> > pg> > pg> > w.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From lscott02 at roadrunner.com Tue Jul 30 10:48:21 2019 From: lscott02 at roadrunner.com (Linda Scott) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:48:21 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564370218455-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564370435862-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <001b01d546e5$d6982d10$83c88730$@com> Jesse- As a VERY casual observer (wife of the sailor), I indeed think that Bob is on to something. What I see in your picture is a big carabiner holding the topping lift line, ours is a much smaller shackle. The other thing that may be contributing is the line you are using for the backstay tension. We use a 1/4 line there, too. Bob is correct, the clearance is very small, but those two things together will likely do the trick by making just enough room for the boom to get by. Good luck- you will LOVE your new boat! Linda -----Original Message----- From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Shumaker Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 10:50 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Thanks for the quick feedback! I should have posted with better photographs last night, but I was worn out after an eventful first weekend with the boat. Sorry the light isn't the best in the photos from tonight, but I wasn't able to get to the boat until a bit before sunset. A caveat regarding the photos from tonight is that the boat is not perfectly level as it is parked on the trailer since the pavement is on a slight incline. The photos of the boat in the water are from the weekend. The next time I'll be able to get it in the water is Sunday. Here are some notes in reply to the feedback in posts from the group: 1) Background about the boat: it is a 1991 model that was refurbished in 2013. The prior owner is very helpful, but he is traveling out of the country at the moment so I turned to the list for advice instead. 2) The main is a Doyle sail, apparently made for the Rhodes 22, that was installed by the prior owner a few years ago. 3) I took off the topping lift while under sail and reattached it just before furling the main. I didn't realize that it is best to leave it on during light wind. 3) Some photos of the roller furling drum are attached. Should I simply take out the pin and turn clockwise to shorten the forestay? Also, do I need to unscrew the black plastic guide for the furling line or simply move the line out the way and the guide would rotate as well. Since it was a bit late when I got to the boat today I didn't experiment with this yet. Also I assume that I may need to release tension on the lower aft stays before tightening the forestay. 4) To get to the tension of 300 lb for the upper side stays and 200 lb for the lower side stays, I simply tightened the turn buckles by hand though it took some effort to reach that tension. Is this too much tension? 5) The boom is at the standard height with the gooseneck set at the height which allows for sailing with the pop top up. 6) If I'm reading the diagram from Richard and the example photos showing the back stay tensioner on other Rhodes, it appears that mine is set appropriately with the double purchase. Please correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks in advance for your help! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From joedempsey at hughes.net Tue Jul 30 11:48:36 2019 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 08:48:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit In-Reply-To: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564501716486-0.post@n5.nabble.com> George, Welcome to the Rhodes22 club! I'm in my third year of ownership and have learned volumes on this List! Regarding the motor lift switch, it is a DPDT switch that requires continuous holding in the direction (up or down). I don't know the description of this type of switch. I don't see the need for the cutout you are contemplating. If the switch on your Rhodes does not "release", then it would be easier to replace it with one that I have described. There are a lot more things you will want to be doing other than that. Just a thought. Joe Dempsey S/V Respite Deltaville, VA ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005 Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From bgreenwald at optonline.net Tue Jul 30 13:29:41 2019 From: bgreenwald at optonline.net (Bruce Greenwald) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 13:29:41 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom/traveler connection Message-ID: During a series of unnecessarily dramatic events involving a dead motor, flogging sail and attempt t connect t a tow, the connection between my boom and traveler blew with some parts apparently gone overboard. I have (attempted to) attach photos of what I have. I think i am missing the lower part of the fiddle block (not sure if that is the correct name) and a clevis pin that runs thru the small u block on the traveler. Does anyone have a photo of what this all lookalike properly put together? And any specs on the missing parts? Thanks much. Bruce Greenwald S/V Ruach Shelter Island N From gmorgan.flier at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 13:55:56 2019 From: gmorgan.flier at gmail.com (Gmorganflier) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 10:55:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit In-Reply-To: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564509356901-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Thanks Joe... You?re probably right about spending my time on other things...learning to sail for one. Stan emailed me and said no one had ever had problems with the electric lift not stopping. I got delayed pickng up my boat. I?m now picking her up tomorrow. We?ll be taking the mast down and loading her on my trailer. When I get her home I need to find out why the mast lights dont work and then she?s off for some minor fiberglass repair. Hopefuuly, in the water soon. George -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 16:56:48 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 23:56:48 +0300 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Refurbished Rhodes In-Reply-To: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> References: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> Message-ID: Stan, Take comfort in the fact that it is your authentic Rhodes and not some ersatz Rhodes that has compleated another 1000 miles plus trip along the coasts of Italy and Greece. Maybe not as catchy as ?I like Ike? but I?m proud to be a ?Stan Fan? for the last 43 years. Chris Geankoplis S/V ENOSIS Meganisi Island, Ionia, Greece On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 19:53, stan wrote: > > > To all those considering a refurbished Rhodes22, we would like to point > > out again that the Rhodes value is, to a major degree, due to the fact > > that it remains a boat in production. > > > > In order to be fair to those who support General Boats efforts in > > keeping the Rhodes 22 a boat in production for its second 50 years, > > refurbished Rhodes purchased from an unauthorized source, will have a > > boat that is no longer recognized by General Boats, as a Rhodes built by > > General Boats and therefore such owners will not be able to turn to > > General Boats for any proprietary Rhodes parts or services. > > > > The business plan of such a rogue company is to cash in on all General > > Boats investments in innovating and promoting the Rhodes sailboat to > > maintain its historic longevity position as the leading trailing still > > in production sailboat. The rogue business plan is based on their being > > a hitch hiking company, not needing to contribute a single dollar to > > maintaining the high name recognition value of the Rhodes boats they > > seek to recycle. > > > > It is important Rhodes buyers understand that the purchase of a recycled > > Rhodes from a company like Voilier is akin to shooting ones self in the > > foot. > > > > stan > > From rodellner at mac.com Tue Jul 30 19:09:48 2019 From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Refurbished Rhodes In-Reply-To: References: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> Message-ID: Still following your trip, Chris??Love the ?Stan Fan? ??.me > On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: > > Stan, > Take comfort in the fact that it is your authentic Rhodes and not some > ersatz Rhodes that has compleated another 1000 miles plus trip along the > coasts of Italy and Greece. Maybe not as catchy as ?I like Ike? but I?m > proud to be a ?Stan Fan? for the last 43 years. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V ENOSIS > Meganisi Island, Ionia, Greece > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 19:53, stan wrote: > >> >> >> To all those considering a refurbished Rhodes22, we would like to point >> >> out again that the Rhodes value is, to a major degree, due to the fact >> >> that it remains a boat in production. >> >> >> >> In order to be fair to those who support General Boats efforts in >> >> keeping the Rhodes 22 a boat in production for its second 50 years, >> >> refurbished Rhodes purchased from an unauthorized source, will have a >> >> boat that is no longer recognized by General Boats, as a Rhodes built by >> >> General Boats and therefore such owners will not be able to turn to >> >> General Boats for any proprietary Rhodes parts or services. >> >> >> >> The business plan of such a rogue company is to cash in on all General >> >> Boats investments in innovating and promoting the Rhodes sailboat to >> >> maintain its historic longevity position as the leading trailing still >> >> in production sailboat. The rogue business plan is based on their being >> >> a hitch hiking company, not needing to contribute a single dollar to >> >> maintaining the high name recognition value of the Rhodes boats they >> >> seek to recycle. >> >> >> >> It is important Rhodes buyers understand that the purchase of a recycled >> >> Rhodes from a company like Voilier is akin to shooting ones self in the >> >> foot. >> >> >> >> stan >> >> From joedempsey at hughes.net Tue Jul 30 20:55:50 2019 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:55:50 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor Lift Cutout Circuit In-Reply-To: <1564509356901-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <1564199770230-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564509356901-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564534550508-0.post@n5.nabble.com> George, The masthead (steaming) light on my Rhodes (1989) is a Perko model and uses a festoon type bulb. I replaced incandescent with an LED. They have a tendency to slip out of the brass mounting clip. Testing can be difficult. Using a couple of test wires with alligator clips and a 9 volt battery, I disconnected the deck mount connector and attached the alligator clips to pins in the plug. If light works, you've got a circuit problem inside the boat. If it doesn't, lower mast to cradle. You should be able to access lamp without removing tabernacle pin. This is a good time to convert to LED. I purchased LEDs for all my nav lights from superbrightleds.com. They're a fraction of the cost of the Marine dealers. You'll need bulb measurement. I can provide part no. If you need it, let me know. Note: may not be USCG approved. Hope this helps. ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005 Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From joedempsey at hughes.net Tue Jul 30 21:29:58 2019 From: joedempsey at hughes.net (JP Dempsey) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:29:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler In-Reply-To: References: <1563310478191-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564536598563-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Hey Alex, In all honesty I'm still learning the Rhodes rig. Yes I think you need the traveler to windward to get a better point. I find it annoying from what I'm used to because u need to adjust traveler after each Tack. I have the 175 Genoa and I pull it in as tight and close as I can get it then adjust the main as needed. Hope to see you around Stingray! ----- JP Dempsey s/v Respite Rhodes 22 1989/2005 Marshall,VA -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com Tue Jul 30 21:40:49 2019 From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 18:40:49 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Here are some additional measurements (see photographs below): - 3.5" between the bottom of the boom and the top of the pop top - 33" from the top of the deck to the bottom of the boom - 29.25 from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the higher boom setting - 27 3/8" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the pop top car - 9.25" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the lower boom setting - 1" between the bottom of the black plastic gooseneck block and the top of the car that attaches to the pop top (when the pop top is raised) - around 73" from the floor of the cockpit (not the drain) to the bottom of the boom when the boom is roughly horizontal. I would need to re-measure that using a level for verification when the boat is flat on the water. I am curious if other R22s have the same measurements. I agree that lowering the boom a bit would address the issue. It seem like I could add another hole in the mast for the pin from the boom car about an inch lower (I'm nervous about drilling into the mast). Now that I am writing this, it occurrs to me that I could do a low risk test of that theory by raising the pop top, pulling the pin from the upper setting and lowering the boom car to be right on top of the pop top car (even though the boom car would not have clicked in). I wouldn't sail without the boom car pin set, but I could try it at the dock to see how much difference that makes. Regarding the topping lift, it sounds like I could go with some lighter line and adjust the attachment to use a small snap shackle to make it protrude less than the carabiner. However, that only addresses the light wind scenario or when the topping lift is still on. When under medium to heavy wind, it is my understanding that a topping lift is not needed, but the power in the main keeps the boom up in that case. Side note: I'll rerun the backstay tensioner lines so they are not crossed. It was a bit of sloppy work on my part for the initial rigging. Thanks for the continued feedback! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com Wed Jul 31 08:31:23 2019 From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 12:31:23 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Jessie, I don?t have the inner mast furling option on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium. So, the height adjusting mechanism for my boom is different than yours. But, can?t you pull the pin on the boom gooseneck car and drop the boom a couple of inches for sailing? That should make your boom/backstay interference issue go away. Then, as part of your pop top raising procedure, raise the boom 1st, then raise the aft end of the pop top into position, and then lift the pop top car into position. When my boom is in the upper position, I have ~1? of clearance between the pop top and the bottom of the boom at the closest point. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Jesse Shumaker Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:40:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Here are some additional measurements (see photographs below): - 3.5" between the bottom of the boom and the top of the pop top - 33" from the top of the deck to the bottom of the boom - 29.25 from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the higher boom setting - 27 3/8" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the pop top car - 9.25" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the lower boom setting - 1" between the bottom of the black plastic gooseneck block and the top of the car that attaches to the pop top (when the pop top is raised) - around 73" from the floor of the cockpit (not the drain) to the bottom of the boom when the boom is roughly horizontal. I would need to re-measure that using a level for verification when the boat is flat on the water. I am curious if other R22s have the same measurements. I agree that lowering the boom a bit would address the issue. It seem like I could add another hole in the mast for the pin from the boom car about an inch lower (I'm nervous about drilling into the mast). Now that I am writing this, it occurrs to me that I could do a low risk test of that theory by raising the pop top, pulling the pin from the upper setting and lowering the boom car to be right on top of the pop top car (even though the boom car would not have clicked in). I wouldn't sail without the boom car pin set, but I could try it at the dock to see how much difference that makes. Regarding the topping lift, it sounds like I could go with some lighter line and adjust the attachment to use a small snap shackle to make it protrude less than the carabiner. However, that only addresses the light wind scenario or when the topping lift is still on. When under medium to heavy wind, it is my understanding that a topping lift is not needed, but the power in the main keeps the boom up in that case. Side note: I'll rerun the backstay tensioner lines so they are not crossed. It was a bit of sloppy work on my part for the initial rigging. Thanks for the continued feedback! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From rlowe at vt.edu Wed Jul 31 09:07:01 2019 From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 13:07:01 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> References: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> , <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: Don?t have my boat in front of me, but is Jesse?s boom upside down? Rob ________________________________ From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Jesse Shumaker Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:40:49 PM To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays Here are some additional measurements (see photographs below): - 3.5" between the bottom of the boom and the top of the pop top - 33" from the top of the deck to the bottom of the boom - 29.25 from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the higher boom setting - 27 3/8" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the pop top car - 9.25" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast for the lower boom setting - 1" between the bottom of the black plastic gooseneck block and the top of the car that attaches to the pop top (when the pop top is raised) - around 73" from the floor of the cockpit (not the drain) to the bottom of the boom when the boom is roughly horizontal. I would need to re-measure that using a level for verification when the boat is flat on the water. I am curious if other R22s have the same measurements. I agree that lowering the boom a bit would address the issue. It seem like I could add another hole in the mast for the pin from the boom car about an inch lower (I'm nervous about drilling into the mast). Now that I am writing this, it occurrs to me that I could do a low risk test of that theory by raising the pop top, pulling the pin from the upper setting and lowering the boom car to be right on top of the pop top car (even though the boom car would not have clicked in). I wouldn't sail without the boom car pin set, but I could try it at the dock to see how much difference that makes. Regarding the topping lift, it sounds like I could go with some lighter line and adjust the attachment to use a small snap shackle to make it protrude less than the carabiner. However, that only addresses the light wind scenario or when the topping lift is still on. When under medium to heavy wind, it is my understanding that a topping lift is not needed, but the power in the main keeps the boom up in that case. Side note: I'll rerun the backstay tensioner lines so they are not crossed. It was a bit of sloppy work on my part for the initial rigging. Thanks for the continued feedback! -- Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ From mtroy at atlanticbb.net Wed Jul 31 09:49:38 2019 From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 09:49:38 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays In-Reply-To: References: <2F2E435D-CD4E-4D5C-87CA-B3665A0FC9D3@cowieassociates.com> <1564454990617-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <1564537249517-0.post@n5.nabble.com> Message-ID: <29aeec73-7579-711d-0b97-94811ab6dee5@atlanticbb.net> Looking at old pics of Fretless, I would say Jesse's boom is right side up. The aft fittings are the same. However, I would agree with what Linda said earlier to start with losing the big carabiner and perhaps bending the tang on the aft end a bit. It may also be that the tang itself is upside down. Our topping lift was always just knotted to the tang and we just loosened it and let it flop when sailing. Never had a problem with it hitting the stays unless we let the boom rise or forgot to loosen the topping lift. Mary Lou ex-R22 now Rosborough RF-246 On 7/31/2019 9:07 AM, Lowe, Rob wrote: > Don?t have my boat in front of me, but is Jesse?s boom upside down? Rob > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of Jesse Shumaker > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:40:49 PM > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] boom hitting back stays > > Here are some additional measurements (see photographs below): > - 3.5" between the bottom of the boom and the top of the pop top > - 33" from the top of the deck to the bottom of the boom > - 29.25 from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast > for the higher boom setting > - 27 3/8" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast > for the pop top car > - 9.25" from the top of the deck to the center of the pin hole on the mast > for the lower boom setting > - 1" between the bottom of the black plastic gooseneck block and the top of > the car that attaches to the pop top (when the pop top is raised) > - around 73" from the floor of the cockpit (not the drain) to the bottom of > the boom when the boom is roughly horizontal. I would need to re-measure > that using a level for verification when the boat is flat on the water. > > > > > > > > > > > I am curious if other R22s have the same measurements. > > I agree that lowering the boom a bit would address the issue. It seem like > I could add another hole in the mast for the pin from the boom car about an > inch lower (I'm nervous about drilling into the mast). Now that I am > writing this, it occurrs to me that I could do a low risk test of that > theory by raising the pop top, pulling the pin from the upper setting and > lowering the boom car to be right on top of the pop top car (even though the > boom car would not have clicked in). I wouldn't sail without the boom car > pin set, but I could try it at the dock to see how much difference that > makes. > > Regarding the topping lift, it sounds like I could go with some lighter line > and adjust the attachment to use a small snap shackle to make it protrude > less than the carabiner. However, that only addresses the light wind > scenario or when the topping lift is still on. When under medium to heavy > wind, it is my understanding that a topping lift is not needed, but the > power in the main keeps the boom up in that case. > > Side note: I'll rerun the backstay tensioner lines so they are not crossed. > It was a bit of sloppy work on my part for the initial rigging. > > Thanks for the continued feedback! > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com Wed Jul 31 15:18:18 2019 From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 22:18:18 +0300 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Refurbished Rhodes In-Reply-To: References: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> Message-ID: Stan has truly earned my respect and loyalty. Oh if only I could get the chapters out on time. The computer will only work when on the power sucking inverter. Getting close to the next installment. In the mean time here is a photo from yesterday. Looks like sending a pic won?t work this way. I?ll try another. Chris Geankoplis ENOSIS Nisos Thilia On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 02:09, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list < rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > Still following your trip, Chris??Love the ?Stan Fan? ??.me > > > On Jul 30, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Chris Geankoplis > wrote: > > > > > > Stan, > > > Take comfort in the fact that it is your authentic Rhodes and not some > > > ersatz Rhodes that has compleated another 1000 miles plus trip along the > > > coasts of Italy and Greece. Maybe not as catchy as ?I like Ike? but I?m > > > proud to be a ?Stan Fan? for the last 43 years. > > > > > > Chris Geankoplis > > > S/V ENOSIS > > > Meganisi Island, Ionia, Greece > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 19:53, stan wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> To all those considering a refurbished Rhodes22, we would like to point > > >> > > >> out again that the Rhodes value is, to a major degree, due to the fact > > >> > > >> that it remains a boat in production. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> In order to be fair to those who support General Boats efforts in > > >> > > >> keeping the Rhodes 22 a boat in production for its second 50 years, > > >> > > >> refurbished Rhodes purchased from an unauthorized source, will have a > > >> > > >> boat that is no longer recognized by General Boats, as a Rhodes built by > > >> > > >> General Boats and therefore such owners will not be able to turn to > > >> > > >> General Boats for any proprietary Rhodes parts or services. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The business plan of such a rogue company is to cash in on all General > > >> > > >> Boats investments in innovating and promoting the Rhodes sailboat to > > >> > > >> maintain its historic longevity position as the leading trailing still > > >> > > >> in production sailboat. The rogue business plan is based on their being > > >> > > >> a hitch hiking company, not needing to contribute a single dollar to > > >> > > >> maintaining the high name recognition value of the Rhodes boats they > > >> > > >> seek to recycle. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> It is important Rhodes buyers understand that the purchase of a recycled > > >> > > >> Rhodes from a company like Voilier is akin to shooting ones self in the > > >> > > >> foot. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> stan > > >> > > >> > > > > > > From stan at generalboats.com Wed Jul 31 15:53:31 2019 From: stan at generalboats.com (stan) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 15:53:31 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Refurbished Rhodes In-Reply-To: References: <55a8fbb4-1b96-8733-6142-ffce320caf5a@generalboats.com> Message-ID: I am still sorry that when you guys stopped by the plant (seems like a hundred years ago) enroute to OR, you could not stay.? By Now you could have had his and her Rhodes and been sailing the Med with a little more space, or racing to see who touches Greece first.? I know getting there for you is all the fund and being "home" will be the other 100% of the fun. On 7/30/19 4:56 PM, Chris Geankoplis wrote: Enjoy.? After your episode with the trunk attack, you earned it. stan > Stan, > Take comfort in the fact that it is your authentic Rhodes and not some > ersatz Rhodes that has compleated another 1000 miles plus trip along the > coasts of Italy and Greece. Maybe not as catchy as ?I like Ike? but I?m > proud to be a ?Stan Fan? for the last 43 years. > > Chris Geankoplis > S/V ENOSIS > Meganisi Island, Ionia, Greece > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 19:53, stan wrote: > >> >> To all those considering a refurbished Rhodes22, we would like to point >> >> out again that the Rhodes value is, to a major degree, due to the fact >> >> that it remains a boat in production. >> >> >> >> In order to be fair to those who support General Boats efforts in >> >> keeping the Rhodes 22 a boat in production for its second 50 years, >> >> refurbished Rhodes purchased from an unauthorized source, will have a >> >> boat that is no longer recognized by General Boats, as a Rhodes built by >> >> General Boats and therefore such owners will not be able to turn to >> >> General Boats for any proprietary Rhodes parts or services. >> >> >> >> The business plan of such a rogue company is to cash in on all General >> >> Boats investments in innovating and promoting the Rhodes sailboat to >> >> maintain its historic longevity position as the leading trailing still >> >> in production sailboat. The rogue business plan is based on their being >> >> a hitch hiking company, not needing to contribute a single dollar to >> >> maintaining the high name recognition value of the Rhodes boats they >> >> seek to recycle. >> >> >> >> It is important Rhodes buyers understand that the purchase of a recycled >> >> Rhodes from a company like Voilier is akin to shooting ones self in the >> >> foot. >> >> >> >> stan >> >> >