[Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds

[Weiss, Robert L]

I've enjoyed seeing my grandson, who is now seven, take to sailing since he was two. Of course, he considers himself the captain anytime he steps on my boat.

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Bob Weiss
Beach Spring


Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 2:28 PM
To: JAY FRIEDLAND; The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds

Hey Jay and everyone else who has passed a love of sailing to the next
generation, or 2, what greater joy?  And as Chris C described, it is a good
time to appreciate those who passed their love of the sea onto us. I know
there are a number of you who one day said “I’m going to learn to sail. You
deserve recognition too. Anyone out there who wants to share?  On a side
note, ENOSIS gets trucked down the mountain and launched on Monday.

Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS
Ischia Italy

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 18:44, JAY FRIEDLAND via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Cane across this from some 27 years ago. Justin’s still as hopped up to
> sail….
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> > On Jun 7, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
> wrote:
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> >
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> > Jay:
>
> > My dad taught me to sail on a Rhodes 19 on the Long Island Sound at an
> age when the little red life jacket seemed bigger than me.  We would sail
> across the sound and overnight in Connecticut.  Lot's of great memories and
> a wonderful introduction to the life of a sailor.  It's great that you have
> passed on the tradition to Justin.
>
> >
>
> > Christopher P. Cowie
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> >
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> > 700 N Fairfax Street
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> > Suite 304
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> > Alexandria, Virginia 22314
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> > 703.717.9103 ex.204 ● 202.270.1470 mobile
>
> > [ccowie at cowieassociates.com]
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> > Please consider the environment before printing this email.
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> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> JAY FRIEDLAND via Rhodes22-list
>
> > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2019 11:31 AM
>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds
>
> >
>
> > My son, Justin, started sailing at 7 on an Optimist in active sail
> racing, now 33, and took the helm of our R22 standing on the seat. At 10 &
> beyond, I brought him to a few of  the Atlantic City Boat Shows when I was
> working Stan’s booth. He, with great enthusiasm, did demos & worked with us
> pulling the IMF out and furling it in, convincing many on-lookers to
> consider it even more. He became a fine-tuned sailor on a championship high
> school sailing team competing nationally in Charleston, SC, and Lake
> Pontchartrain, LA.
>
> >
>
> > Now he’s a half-partner with me, originally earning more sailing time
> proportional to the percent of prep work & maintenance he did each year on
> our first R22 (Just, You & Me), now our 2nd. Wanderlust, a ’97 vintage gets
> a very demanding workout, often 800-1,100 nm clocked each year, and in some
> of the strongest & steadiest winds, on the east coast, even in freezing
> rain, surfing down large rollers as he posted on our final trip last year.
> I get afternoon sailing time, during the week, he gets evenings, sunsets
> and beyond. It is hard to sail together when you have 2 captains, but we
> always work it out and learning from each other. His sail racing experience
> has Justin seeing/feeling and adjusting for the next 3 coming wind shifts,
> which I still can’t fathom.
>
> >
>
> > In any case, a kid and a sailboat is magic wherever it leads.
>
> >
>
> > Chris G., one of my regrets looking back, is the opportunity you offered
> me to help your son’s boat prepped in Greece. If only... “There is nothing-
> absolutely nothing- half so much worth doing as simply messing about in
> boats”, unless, of course, you can get your kid involved at any age.
> Father’s Day is a great time to enjoy it.
>
> >
>
> > Jay Friedland
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> > S/v Wanderlust ‘97
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
> >> On Jun 7, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>
>
> >> And you keep the kids involved. Lots of sailing to look forward to.
>
> >>
>
> >> Chris G
>
> >> ENOSIS
>
> >>
>
> >> On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 15:15, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Thanks Chris!
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Yes i will continue to encourage him.  We are going sailing on fathers
> day.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> I am sharing with him my secret for restoring a boat. “Do one thing
>
> >>> every day to or for the boat”. Doesnt have to be big though those
>
> >>> days are needed, it can be as simple as ordering a part or picking up
>
> >>> a tube of butyl rubber, epoxy or a box of SS screws.  He is intrigued
> for sure.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> He finally figured out which way to twist a screwdriver!  His younger
>
> >>> brother on the other hand can swap an engine. Go figure!
>
> >>>
>
> >>> Exciting times!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
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> >>>
>
> >>> Keep sailing the dream Chris!!!
>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
>
> >>> Bob (Palatka)
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> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> On Jun 6, 2019, at 3:02 AM, Chris Geankoplis
>
> >>>> <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>
> >>> wrote:
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> >>>
>
> >>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>> .....
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Congratulations on your success with passing on your love of sailing
>
> >>>> and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> the Rhodes to the next generation. Encourage him to think big goo. I
>
> >>>> did
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> the same dith my so and he has become a great sailor and
>
> >>>> accomplished
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Rhodie. While a teenager he sailed dith friends on the Rhodes in the
>
> >>>> San
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Juan’s and Mexico. Besides get a kid involved is restoring a boat
>
> >>>> and he
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> will stay ofc drugs and booze ........there won’t be the money for
>
> >>>> those
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> (grin).
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Chris Geankoplis
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> >>>
>
> >>>> ENOSIS
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 01:37, Goodness <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> Out of curiosity who pays the web host fee for Rhodes22.org? They
>
> >>>>> are
>
> >>> the
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> real owner of the list!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> On a side note yesterday my 16 year old finally snapped out of it,
>
> >>>>> put
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> down his cell phone and came out to the Rhodes! He was amazed he
>
> >>>>> could
>
> >>> lie
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> down and stretch out in the berth (He is 6’3”)!  He started looking
>
> >>> around
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> and said “This thing is really cool!”  I cant wait till you go out
>
> >>>>> again
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> cause i want to sail too!!! (He is a decent sunfish sailor) He then
>
> >>> started
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> mentioning that the styling of the R-22 was “sick” (meaning more
>
> >>> awesome)
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> than other boats.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> Then he started walking around my “parts boat” and decided he could
>
> >>>>> “fix
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> it and sail” (i gave him the book by that title!!).
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> So BAM!! A new Rhodie was born yesterday!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>> I predicted last week that the new generation would figure this out
>
> >>>
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> >>>>> eventually,
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> But had no idea it would be my own son!!!
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> 😳🙄😁
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> Ha!
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> So now is the conundrum.  Didn’t Stan say last week my son cant be
>
> >>>>> a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> Rhodie since he cut off the certificate of support? I have one so i
>
> >>> guess i
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> can transfer it?  Thoughts?
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>> 😞
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> Rhodes 22 forever!
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> Bob (Palatka)
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>> On May 28, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Michael Corley
>
> >>>>>> <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>> I am with Stan on this issue.  Been a Rhodes owner and Stan
>
> >>>>>> loyalist
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> since
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>> 1996.  I absolutely trust him and sincerely hope he can find an
>
> >>>>>> active
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>> partner to help with GB.  Seems to me that Chris C. and his
>
> >>>>>> company are
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>> just trying to squeeze Stan out!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>> Great to hear again from MJM; wasn't sure you were still out there.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>> Mike Corley
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>> S/V Ranger
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>> Hampton Roads
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1:49 PM Charles Nieman <
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> >>>
>
> >>>>> blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>> wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> I do not disagree with the premise presented here....and I do not
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> >>>>>>> have
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> >>>
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> >>>>> any
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> real interest....but, it should be noted...
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> This list is not the property of nor supported by General Boats
> ....
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> fro
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> what I have been able to tell over the years of being involved
>
> >>>>>>> with
>
> >>> this
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> list, Stan has never nurtured this list and only occasionally
>
> >>>>>>> will he
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> respond to the list, but I THINK he does "listen" to the postings
>
> >>>>>>> here
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> ... it is my understanding that this list is an open exchange of
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> information between people who own a Rhodes 22, want to own a
>
> >>>>>>> Rhodes
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> 22, or
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> have other interest in a Rhodes 22. I think Chris Cowie qualifies
>
> >>> under
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> a
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> least two of those points.
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>
> >>>>>>> behalf of
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> Bob
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:15 AM
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> My $0.1 from Kent Island, Chesapeake Bay
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> I fell in love with the Rhodes 22 when I stepped onto the vessel
>
> >>>>>>> at
>
> >>> the
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> 2005 Annapolis Boat Show, and test sailed it with Stan during the
>
> >>>>>>> same
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> show.
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> I understand that competition has arrived but I am concerned
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> >>>>>>> about
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> using a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> mailing list that was nurtured by General Boats over 50+ years
>
> >>>>>>> and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> marketed
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> at boat shows around the US, including the first Annapolis
>
> >>>>>>> Sailboat
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> Show in
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> 1970. The cost of marketing can be a significant barrier to entry
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> against
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> an established brand. Using a competitor’s existing customer base
>
> >>>>>>> and
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> mailing list avoids these costs, so I would expect that the
>
> >>>>>>> ‘right
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> thing’
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> to do would be to compensate GB for any Rhodes-related sales and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> services.
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> It’s not clear to me whether that arrangement has been made.
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> As a side note, I’ve sailed around the Chesapeake Bay for the
>
> >>>>>>> last 15
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> years, after moving in 2003 to a neighborhood just up from
>
> >>>>>>> Annapolis
>
> >>> on
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> >>>
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> >>>>> the
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> Severn River. We moved across the Bay to Kent Island in 2018 and
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> >>>>>>> we
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> >>> were
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> very surprised last September when a dozen dolphins played around
>
> >>>>>>> us
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> >>>
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> >>>>> while
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> we tacked across the Chester River. I suspect it was the beauty
>
> >>>>>>> of the
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> Rhodes 22 hull that attracted them. Especially since some of
>
> >>>>>>> these
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> >>>
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> >>>>> dolphins
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> appeared to have stopped over in Edenton on the way to the
> Chesapeake.
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> Regards,
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> Bob, s/v 2000 Sail la Vie
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM Goodness
>
> >>>>>>> <spreadgoodnews at gmail.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>> $ 0.02 from Florida
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> I really think all of this talk is in poor taste.  Stan is very
>
> >>>>>>>> much
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> alive
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>> and still active CEO of a great boat company.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Life constantly reminds me that no one is guaranteed tomorrow.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> My motto is “treat everyone like its your last day and theirs!”
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> I am an active certificate of support member having paid my
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> penalty/membership to Stan who graciously allowed me to give him
>
> >>> money
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> after buying my boat from a sailboat graveyard in Georgia.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> When i needed a replacement hatch i couldnt get one without
>
> >>>>>>>> driving
>
> >>> to
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> the
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
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> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> factory as it was too large to ship.  But as serendpity would
>
> >>>>>>>> have
>
> >>> it,
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> i
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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> >>>>>>>> bought another failing vessel with a functioning hatch before i
>
> >>>>>>>> made
>
> >>>
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> >>>>> the
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> drive.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Now we all wish there was a website where we could order parts
>
> >>>>>>>> to
>
> >>> keep
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> things operational right!!!???
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> ... but Stan being a capitalist in the full sense of the word
>
> >>> (despite
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> claiming to be a socialist lol) decided it best to let the boats
>
> >>>>>>>> age
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> out
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> and be repurchased for recycling.  Its a brilliant idea
>
> >>>>>>>> especially
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> considering GB was only a “one design” company (i know there was
>
> >>>>>>>> a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> prototype).  Also in His defense he does occasionally fill and
>
> >>>>>>>> ship
>
> >>> an
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> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> order for soft and small parts.
>
> >>>
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> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> This business tactic probably profited the same as a parts store.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Competition has arrived...it is inevitable. Competitors in the
>
> >>>>>>>> same
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> market
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> often dont do well so i cant see that there is much money in
>
> >>>>>>>> this
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> endeavor
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> so be not dismayed.  Another issue is the fate of the abandoned
>
> >>>>>>>> R22’s
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> that
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> have the thick heavy hulls that are not suitable for the
>
> >>>>>>>> recycling
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> program.  I love all boats and hate to see them go to the dump.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> But all of this rambling brings me to my next statement to
>
> >>>>>>>> Stan....if
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> you
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> are still reading.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Stan! Keep eating organic and live to be 120!!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Lets redesign the keel into a ballasted diamond board and put a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> rudderpost
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> in the cockpit drain area and mount a 30-40 hp honda on the
>
> >>>>>>>> midline
>
> >>> and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> show MacGregor that your power sailer is superior to his 26  and
>
> >>> looks
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> much
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> better!  It would sell like hotcakes and sail like an R22!
>
> >>>>>>>> After all
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> that
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> WAS your idea!
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Bob (Palatka)
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> On May 26, 2019, at 4:43 PM, Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> It is probably an opportune time for me to get into the fray.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> I cannot imagine the sale of GB to anyone under any
>
> >>>>>>>>> circumstances,
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> fellow skippers, no discredit to anyone.  I suspect the business
>
> >>>>>>>> will
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> pass
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> to Stan's daughter through his will. My suggestion would be to
>
> >>>>>>>> drive
>
> >>> to
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> B'more and see if you want to be her business partner.  You may
>
> >>>>>>>> find
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> she
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> has little intention of becoming the CEO, therefore creating
>
> >>>>>>>> this
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> option.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Remember that time flies.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Art Czerwonkys/v MaryJane (soon available)
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 8:51 AM, michael meltzer<
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> mjm at michaelmeltzer.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:   Considering my bottom painting just got rained out. What
>
> >>> going
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> on
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> here?
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Anyone have a summary (no axes to grind please), been following
>
> >>>>>>>>> but
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> not
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>> understanding
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 25, 2019, 9:28 PM Todd Tavares
>
> >>>>>>>>>> <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've been on the list probably longer than most. The new
>
> >>>>>>>>>> admins
>
> >>> keep
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> bouncing my emails saying my freebie email must be sent as
>
> >>>>>>>>>> plain
>
> >>> text
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> instead HTML. I hope this email gets through, because I can't
>
> >>>>>>>>>> stand
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Nabble.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm a nice guy most of the time but I can be quite abrasive at
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> times...just ask Roger P (welcome back BTW). And this email
>
> >>>>>>>>>> will
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> probably
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> cost me a few friends here too but I don't care . My 2 cents;
>
> >>>>>>>>>> which
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> is
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> more
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> vinegar than sugar:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I first got on list before we left Sailnet and MJM started
>
> >>>>>>>>>> this
>
> >>> list
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> for
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> us Rhodies, so I've been here since before the beginning.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Early on
>
> >>> I
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> bumped
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> heads with Stan and got grilled by a few of the hardcore
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Rhodies...especially Rummy (may he rest in peace). I went off
>
> >>> because
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> of
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Stan's reluctance to stop the production line to field my
>
> >>>>>>>>>> calls and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> parts
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> requests. Stan made a comment to the effect of 'I'm not in the
>
> >>> parts
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> business so go talk to the guy you bought the boat from. Why
>
> >>> should I
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> stop
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> trying to make money to help out someone who has never put one
>
> >>>>>>>>>> dime
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> in
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> my
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> pocket?' This is partly the genesis for the Certificate of
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Support
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> program.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I had never dealt with a struggling "one-off" organization
>
> >>>>>>>>>> before,
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> but I
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> eventually understood the mindset and now I have to step up
>
> >>>>>>>>>> and
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> defend
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Stan.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure he'd love to sell his business and finally
>
> >>>>>>>>>> retire...before
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> he
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> turns 100 or reaches his "expiration date". I thought about
>
> >>>>>>>>>> making
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> him
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> this
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> offer--- I wouldn't buy his business or infuse any cash. But I
>
> >>> could
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> drive
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> down to Edenton bimonthly or so and tell him how to run the
>
> >>> business
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> better, in exchange for him giving me the business and
>
> >>>>>>>>>> property in
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> his
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Will
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> or something like that. Unfortunately though...somebody had
>
> >>>>>>>>>> already
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> made
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> him that offer.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> CC's endeavor is his own and I wish him luck. But Charles's
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> supportive
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> email and choice of phrases are ironic. I'm at a loss to
>
> >>>>>>>>>> understand
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> how
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> directly competing business, especially one advertising HERE,
>
> >>>>>>>>>> is
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> supposed
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> to put one dime in Stan's pocket?  Is that how you perpetuate
>
> >>>>>>>>>> a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> brand? b
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Competing and taking business by soliciting to the list
>
> >>>>>>>>>> members
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> who've
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> supported Stan for so long? I'll stop just short of saying
>
> >>>>>>>>>> this is
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Stan's
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> list, but we started it to drive interest in the Rhodes 22 and
>
> >>> we've
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> promoted General Boats with some success.  CC's business may
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> certainly
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> propel OUR interests in (your) Stan's invention" but it is
>
> >>> certainly
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> not a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> faithful "continuation of the brand"?
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry if this offends anyone, and I don't want to make
>
> >>>>>>>>>> enemy of
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> or Charles, but this is not the place to be asking for or
>
> >>>>>>>>>> looking
>
> >>> for
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> support to cripple the struggling business of the aged Admiral
>
> >>>>>>>>>> of
>
> >>> our
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> fleet.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Todd Tavares (Todd T.)
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:17 PM
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> From: "Charles Nieman" <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowie/GB storm clouds
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Stan;
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I would normally not make any public comment in a situation
>
> >>>>>>>>>> such as
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> this,
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> but you have asked. I support what CC is doing and think it
>
> >>> actually
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> helps
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> to propel our interests in your invention. You have not
>
> >>>>>>>>>> provided
>
> >>> any
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> evidence of any solid plan for the continuation of the brand.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> And
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> while
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> your longevity is amazing (but I’m pretty certain you do have
>
> >>>>>>>>>> an
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> expiration
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> date as the rest of us do, if I’m wrong here I applaud you but
>
> >>> could
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> you
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> please share some insight and some evidence) there needs to be
>
> >>>>>>>>>> some
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> plan
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> for the future. It appears to me that CC is attempting to
>
> >>>>>>>>>> provide
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> such.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> He
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> therefore will receive the same support from me that you have.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> I
>
> >>> wish
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> both
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> endeavors all possible success.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Charles
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> 98 R 22
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> s/v DayDreams
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Joe Pool Lake, DFW Texas
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2019, at 4:24 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> For 50 years Rhodes owners have been our sales force and our
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> board
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> of
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> directors. So before we submit a book size White Paper
>
> >>>>>>>>>> response to
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cowie's "new" business, made clear by the following two
>
> >>>>>>>>>> emails, we
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> feel
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>> we
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> should give voice to the cooler collective heads of the List,
>
> >>> before
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>> a
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> declaration of war:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "/Hi Chris, /
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> /Rumor (Ted) has it that you may know of used Rhodes 22s for
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> sale
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> especially in the Mid Atlantic region. My wife Emily and I are
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> seriously
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> hot to trot! Jeff: Contact me//**//via email - we//**//have
>
> >>>>>>>>>> several
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> refurbished Rhodes 22 ready to sail."/
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you own, or are thinking of buying a Rhodes, what is
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> happening
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>> here
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> truly affect your interests. Any and all input from the List
>
> >>>>>>>>>> will
>
> >>> be
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>> thoughtfully responded to.
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks for hearing,
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> stan
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >
>
>
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