[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Boom Room
Art Czerwonky
a_czerwonky at yahoo.com
Tue Nov 5 22:32:10 EST 2019
Roger,
Thanks for the photos. Your design is entirely different from what I've made since 2006. I can imagine the time you spent with fabrication, also in assembly and disassembly for a trip. I salute your efforts towards a true cruising R22.
My first whack at a boomroom had a similar shape with squared edges. I opted against the design and a BR utilizing the traditional Bimini - just too lumpy. The BR Slim used was smoother but bulbous instead of streamlined. My ultimate shape was made to be slim yet roomy, conforming to the boat lines. The streamlined shape gave it greater strength and durability. The conformity with the boat lines gave it stablity, even is stormy conditions. At night the wind would point the bow at anchor into the wind consistently and without constant "searching" and rocking, important as the retracted centerboard will otherwise make much noise banging against the cb trunk all night long.
I could go on and on and on....
The demand might justify a business model, but DIYers may first sew their hearts our from the need for necessary experience. Once used, a proven "system" is invaluable and necessary. Problem is that you don't really have a system after one try. I got it together with many generations of my BR. While this may sound like some kind of self promotion, it proved in time after time. I created the current BR after about five generations, each an improvement on the former. I got so many skippers pleased, and that is the only important 'bottom line'
I expect to make the BR top for DIYers to come, ang give them the ability to do the rest and realize a significant savings. One of them may choose to carry on when I stop doing this. You would not want to make another of your BR config, but someone will enjoy putting mine together, just like I have over and over and over again. Again, Roger, I send my greatest respect for what you have done for this fleet and hope we can stay connected on the list.
Best to you,Art
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Art,
If you look on the photo website, you will see two photos of my boom room. I think there is also a photo of my boat tied up to a dock at Kelly’s Island in Lake Erie, OH with just the boom room roof deployed. I made the boom room myself by adding roof extensions and side curtains to my Bimini top. When not in use, the front and rear roof extensions roll up under the Bimini top and are secured there with straps and snaps. My boom room is designed to be used in conjunction with the GBI OEM pop top enclosure, which came with my boat. The front roof extension goes all the way forward to the mast and covers the entire width of the deck all the way to the rail, port & starboard, alongside of the pop top enclosure. This enables the front roof extension to function as an awning over the sides of the pop top enclosure. Having an awning allows the side windows to be left open for ventilation in all but the most driving rain. The downside of this design is that to go forward to the bow, you must go outside the rail and shuffle sideways along the toe rail until you are forward of the mast. However, the boom room is normally only used at anchor or a dock, so going outside the rail is not usually a big deal.
This was, by far, the most difficult canvas fabrication project I have ever attempted! It took me several months of sewing over a whole winter with lots of visits to the boat to check fit. I’d never do it again! However, you may be a more skilled canvas worker than I. I wish you good luck!
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:08:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water tanks Bravo Roger !
Anyone following your advice on how to get the best advantages of this excellent craft will be well advised.
I am getting inquiries on the boomroom from would-be DIY makers. The design looks simple, the difficulties enormous. Overall the R22 lends itself well to mods into cruising plus.
Best to you,
Art
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 9:07 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA<roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: Todd,
Go to the Defender Marine website (www.defender.com<http://www.defender.com>) (800-628-8225) and take a look at the todd M/N 94-1627WH, Defender C/N 503130 water tank. This tank has a capacity of 15 gal and the dimensions are 25” L X 11” W X 15” D. The MOC is FDA & USCG certified polyethylene. The plumbing and vent connections are molded in and are all female NPT. The same vender can supply the various plumbing fittings, hose, clamps, and valves to complete the job.
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium came with water tank mounting beds molded into the interior of the hull. On your boat, look behind (i.e. aft of) the floatation foam under the V-berth and in front of the V-berth bulkhead. You should see an empty space sized to fit the above specified tank. The molded in mounting beds will provide good support for the tank up in the deep V part of the bow . My water tank mounting beds have slots in them. These slots allow a nylon outboard gas tank strap to be rigged around the water tank. The water tank is held in place by the floatation foam in front, the V-berth bulkhead behind, and the mounting beds + strap prevent side-to-side and upward movement. But, this mount still allows the water tank to be removed if necessary.
Easy peasy! I don’t know why anyone would want to go to all the trouble and expense of a permanently mounted water tank when this option is available.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:09:28 AM
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Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Water tanks
Has anyone built, or considered building a permanent integral water tank?
(Peter?)
I have been watching several YouTube videos by atomvoyager and he always
builds integral tanks and coats the inside of the tank with food grade
epoxy. It may be a worthy project as my R 22 does not have a water tank at
all. But the epoxy is quite expensive.
https://youtu.be/bUiV90sPMbU
http://www.sscoatings.net/brewcoat.htm
Todd T.
tavares0947 at gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 8:31 PM Kathy Leone <kathy.leone at qltcls.com> wrote:
> Hello Rhodies,
>
> After many years of sailing on Rhodes 22 sailboats, we are selling our
> 2012. She is in excellent condition with the following items worth
> mentioning:
> (1) Navy blue hull
> (2) 175 Genoa
> (3) 9.9 Yahama engine with tiller hookup. This engine is from the 2004
> boat we purchased. We have been utilizing it on our 2012 and love how it
> works. Our mechanic at the marina recently gave the engine an overhaul and
> she is purring. This included a brand new lower unit.
> (4) Galvanized trailer
> (5) Safety rails
>
> We are located on Long Beach Island in New Jersey. We are asking $29,500
> per a discussion with Stan and will consider any reasonable offer.
>
> Thank you and Happy Sailing,
>
> Kathy
> S/V REVERIE
> 2012 R22
> Long Beach Township, NJ
>
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