[Rhodes22-list] Spring Lines

[Jay Friedland]

Sean, Best thing I can recommend is gradually add on to the basics (bow & stern), once you’ve seen how on the forces you’re dealing with pull your boat. I’ve seen powerboats criss-cross their stern lines if it clears your outboard, then snubbers on the spring lines keep the boat centered with needed forward and back movement. For me, I would prevent any side slip, especially with 6 pilings. Also, I’ve always used heavier lines on bow & stern where the greater forces are, with the spring lines as supplemental to your primary control.



> On Apr 22, 2020, at 5:01 PM, Sean Allen <seanallen1206 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jay (and all) as this has been really helpful.
> 
> I've got 6 pilings in my slip. I was thinking of using two 3/8" bow lines
> around each piling with snubbers both connected to the bow cleat, then two
> 3/8" stern lines with snubbers each connected from the piling to each stern
> cleat, and I think i might put spring cleats in approximately mid-ship by
> the windows and run a 1/2" spring line with snubbers on each side (using
> the grab rails temporarily).
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:15 PM Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sean,
>> I should also add that the Tide-minders prevent any side movement in my
>> relatively narrow slip. On the spring lines, I use heavy-duty snubbers (for
>> up to 5/8” line) to give the boat some forward movement beyond the stretch
>> of the lines. With the occasional excessive tides, I use the midship cleat
>> adjustment along with the snubbers to keep the boat centered with tension,
>> not just the extreme stretch of the spring lines.
>> Jay
>> 
>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Jay Friedland <JayF401 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sean,
>>> It all depends on the exposure to the elements. Mel & I are on the same
>> island but completely different factors to deal with. Mel is fairly
>> protected in a lagoon, so his lines are fine for that location. Wanderlust
>> is in a  narrow slip in a marina with a sea wall surrounding the boats. It
>> has 11’ of clearance, and exposed to high winds, some wave action and up to
>> 2-1/2’ of tidal change. While it’s not all visible in the attached photo
>> (if it’s not stripped away), is the following, using all 1/2” lines-
>>> 
>>> 1) bow lines to pilings at a 90°
>>> 2) spring lines to adjustable midship cleats on 1” T-tracks, 30” of
>> movement
>>> 3) Tide-minders on each stern line
>>> 
>>> I’ve been through over 12 seasons of squalls, glancing hurricanes,
>> excessive tides and only have to worry about other people’s boats. The
>> other advantage of midship cleats is the versatility of docking in many
>> situations. I hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Jay Friedland
>>> S/v Wanderlust, ‘97
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Apr 22, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Sean Allen <seanallen1206 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:seanallen1206 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm launching my boat in to a new slip in a few weeks and I'm curious if
>>>> and how other Rhodes owners use spring lines? Mine only has one bow
>> cleat
>>>> and two on the stern.
>>>> 
>>>> I've heard of others using the grab rail on the bulk head mentioned.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone installed additional cleats? Is that advisable?
>>>> 
>>>> The marina is in tidal waters (Barnegat Bay) with quite a bit of wake
>> on a
>>>> daily basis.
>>>> 
>>>> Sean
>>> 
>> 
>>