[Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay

stan stan at generalboats.com
Sat Feb 1 13:18:37 EST 2020


Mike, thanks for the figures and the photo.  Maybe I can chalk it up to 
old age but I am confused in that normally our jib stay had an eye 
fitting at its top where that fitting went inside a stay adjuster (like 
used at the bottom ends of the two back stays) for a one time adjustment 
to establish mast rake.  And at its bottom the jib stays had a fork 
fitting that directly connected to the bow chain plate.  (Possibly the 
prior owner along the way had the jib stay assembly replaced locally or 
my crew made the changes without telling me.)

Not that it matters in the sense that either approach will work. Two 
physical items do matter in duplicating your current stay:

If the fork end attached directly to the mast head fitting it should be 
able to accept a 1/4"  clevis pin as opposed to the holes in the stay's 
folk fitting end having smaller holes for smaller diameter pins.  Can 
you check this.  And second, I take it that the threaded end of the stay 
on your set up is going into the top end of a turnbuckle.  The issue 
here then becomes the direction of the thread on this threaded fixture 
end.  The only way I feel comfortable with that decision is to have the 
rest of the turnbuckle here since a stay with the wrong threaded end 
becomes useless and has to be throw away or, alternately, the current 
turnbuckle has to be replaced with a new one that matches the thread 
direction on the new stay.

You mention damage to the stay and I would assume that would be at one 
of the ends that goes into an end fitting.  These old eyes are not 
seeing which end is damaged.

Re the 130 genoa, deterioration of its top strap as been a problem that 
we brought up with Doyle but not sure they ever addressed it.  We will 
have to replace the sail and are thinking that maybe the strap area 
should be taped over after it is installed, to block the sun's UV rays.  
After you get a replacement genoa from us we would like the damaged one 
so we can send it to Doyle.

Or, of course, we can give you a good trade in deal on a New Rhodes.

stan

On 1/28/20 6:47 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> I pulled the stay off the boat and measured it 4 times. The length worked
> out to be 26' 4".  I measured it from the tip of each fitting (fork on one
> end and threaded rod for turnbuckle on the other). I've attached a photo
> that shows both fittings on either end of the stay.
>
> The Genoa is a 130.
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
>> Sure, let's try that.
>>
>> Is the genoa a 130 or 175?
>>
>> stan
>>
>> On 1/24/20 1:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
>>> How about if I remove the stay and measure it and send you that
>>> measurement? That would seem to be somewhat accurate and the most
>>> expedient.
>>>
>>> The head of the Genoa is dry rotted (long term sun damage is my guess)
>> and
>>> the strap holding to the top of the mast broke. The result was the sail
>>> slid down the furler tube and jammed up against the furler. I couldn't
>> use
>>> the line to furl it and had to go forward and wrap it by hand. A short
>> term
>>> repair was applied by returning to the marina, lowering the mast,
>> punching
>>> a hole through the thickest part of the head and tying it back to the
>> mast
>>> with a short piece of 1/4" line. This allowed us to finish the trip, but
>>> hasn't held much past that.
>>>
>>> Michael Riter
>>> President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
>>> Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
>>> mike at traildesign.com
>>> 678-410-8021
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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