From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Jan  1 08:25:59 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 08:25:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, here is another segment of the journal I kept while sailing along the
Italian coast this summer.  This is the last part that will cover southern
Italy. Aafter that is a month of sailing in western Greece, which I'll post
later on.  Not sure when, as I've got to go in for some minor eye surgery
and then we have to get the big boat in the water and over to the Bahamas.
Well, anyway, here is a warm start to the new year.  Just click the link
then download the journal to view.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JSIE8LowC0wMTeUsTBK-iomSIeKLf3kY/view

Chris & Alice Geankoplis
S/V ENOSIS

From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed Jan  1 10:03:03 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2020 15:03:03 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New to Rhodes22
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vru1UywD6gqc1wHOH4gohPHdRC9fOxvxJL64Yq51jwaLDw@mail.gmail.com>
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Robert,
Welcome to the list and congratulations on your purchase. Who did you buy from, if I might ask. rob
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Robert@ Pamaya Red <robert at pamayared.com>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 7:16:44 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New to Rhodes22

Hi, I'm Robert and I recently purchased a 2012 Rhodes 22.
It's presently on trailer and shrink wrapped on Long Beach Island, NJ. In
April it will be set up and ready to sail. I plan on bringing her to
Haverstraw, NY on the Hudson or Manhasset Bay on the LI Sound. Have only
been sailing for a couple of years and will need someone experienced to
bring her North with me so I can learn more about the Rhodes and coastal
sailing.
Hope to move her early May.
Anyone interested in doing this with me or have any suggestions would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Robert Weinberg

From hnw555 at gmail.com  Thu Jan  2 09:55:07 2020
From: hnw555 at gmail.com (Hank)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 09:55:07 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADQNfMAVJV2pTN+64Z7QgNyCD6pGioAu=eLBx0Xm5JsbG+hyuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Very nice, Chris.  As always, I greatly enjoy reading of your adventures.

Happy New Year!

Hank

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:26 AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, here is another segment of the journal I kept while sailing along the
> Italian coast this summer.  This is the last part that will cover southern
> Italy. Aafter that is a month of sailing in western Greece, which I'll post
> later on.  Not sure when, as I've got to go in for some minor eye surgery
> and then we have to get the big boat in the water and over to the Bahamas.
> Well, anyway, here is a warm start to the new year.  Just click the link
> then download the journal to view.
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JSIE8LowC0wMTeUsTBK-iomSIeKLf3kY/view
>
> Chris & Alice Geankoplis
> S/V ENOSIS
>

From allynb at adsne.com  Thu Jan  2 13:59:40 2020
From: allynb at adsne.com (Allyn Baskerville)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 18:59:40 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?
Message-ID: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I have a 2001 Rhodes, and the bottom is mostly sanded at this point. I'll hoist it up this weekend to finish the area I can't reach due to the trailer. I've never done a bottom job before, but someone had mentioned that it might be useful to use a barrier coat if I intend on leaving it in the water year around. Given how mild some winters are in Oklahoma, especially like this one, I'd probably only pull it a few times a year to keep the bottom clean of moss and zebra mussels and put it right back in the water to sail it year around. Would it be worth the time and expense to use the barrier coat? Thanks

Happy New Year.
Allyn

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Jan  2 14:50:34 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:50:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1672705575.3899272.1577994634947@mail.yahoo.com>

I did used a good two part paint like epoxies? do it Wight seal? it form water working into the glass then bottom cote.


-----Original Message-----
From: Allyn Baskerville <allynb at adsne.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 2, 2020 1:59 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?

I have a 2001 Rhodes, and the bottom is mostly sanded at this point. I'll hoist it up this weekend to finish the area I can't reach due to the trailer. I've never done a bottom job before, but someone had mentioned that it might be useful to use a barrier coat if I intend on leaving it in the water year around. Given how mild some winters are in Oklahoma, especially like this one, I'd probably only pull it a few times a year to keep the bottom clean of moss and zebra mussels and put it right back in the water to sail it year around. Would it be worth the time and expense to use the barrier coat? Thanks

Happy New Year.
Allyn

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Jan  2 15:26:41 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:26:41 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <060201d5c1aa$f2994630$d7cbd290$@ca>

I would definitely add multiple barrier coats of epoxy or Interlux 3000
(which is also epoxy). It requires at least 4 coats. If you have any osmosis
fix that first. Do not put epoxy over osmotic blisters. There are losts of
online instructions and YouTube videos on the subject.

Graham
Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Allyn Baskerville
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?

I have a 2001 Rhodes, and the bottom is mostly sanded at this point. I'll
hoist it up this weekend to finish the area I can't reach due to the
trailer. I've never done a bottom job before, but someone had mentioned that
it might be useful to use a barrier coat if I intend on leaving it in the
water year around. Given how mild some winters are in Oklahoma, especially
like this one, I'd probably only pull it a few times a year to keep the
bottom clean of moss and zebra mussels and put it right back in the water to
sail it year around. Would it be worth the time and expense to use the
barrier coat? Thanks

Happy New Year.
Allyn


From allynb at adsne.com  Thu Jan  2 15:49:44 2020
From: allynb at adsne.com (Allyn Baskerville)
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 20:49:44 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?
In-Reply-To: <060201d5c1aa$f2994630$d7cbd290$@ca>
References: <SN6PR19MB238142AE5FC3D7552AD977A1DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
 <060201d5c1aa$f2994630$d7cbd290$@ca>
Message-ID: <SN6PR19MB23814A4F693FBF464BE83AC6DC200@SN6PR19MB2381.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks Graham and Mark. Great info, and I really appreciate this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:27 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?

I would definitely add multiple barrier coats of epoxy or Interlux 3000 (which is also epoxy). It requires at least 4 coats. If you have any osmosis fix that first. Do not put epoxy over osmotic blisters. There are losts of online instructions and YouTube videos on the subject.

Graham
Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario




-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Allyn Baskerville
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Barrier Coat or Not?

I have a 2001 Rhodes, and the bottom is mostly sanded at this point. I'll hoist it up this weekend to finish the area I can't reach due to the trailer. I've never done a bottom job before, but someone had mentioned that it might be useful to use a barrier coat if I intend on leaving it in the water year around. Given how mild some winters are in Oklahoma, especially like this one, I'd probably only pull it a few times a year to keep the bottom clean of moss and zebra mussels and put it right back in the water to sail it year around. Would it be worth the time and expense to use the barrier coat? Thanks

Happy New Year.
Allyn


From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Fri Jan  3 10:30:57 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 15:30:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot
References: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>

There are several brands with several models. I wont be using a navigation system. Want a basic unit , any options? you suggest?? thanks for any input?Mark

From tvpolise at aol.com  Fri Jan  3 17:07:49 2020
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:07:49 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot
In-Reply-To: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>

Raymarine S1000/2000 is a nice unit I installed on my boat. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> There are several brands with several models. I wont be using a navigation system. Want a basic unit , any options  you suggest?  thanks for any input Mark


From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Fri Jan  3 17:33:29 2020
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:33:29 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot
In-Reply-To: <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>
References: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>
 <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CACSd1jJdODgv9_c_km75UC7dAnY7+2VNUFfWDV9=PSYbs_GCXw@mail.gmail.com>

I was thinking about installing one this year also.  For solo sailing I
think it would be very helpful.  Am concerned installation would interfere
with the Captains chairs.
There was a good write up in the old archives about the RayMarine tiller
tamer and the additional parts/extensions needed to install it.  I think
cost is about $400 - $500 for the parts.

Mike Corley
S/V Ranger.
Hampton Roads

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 5:08 PM THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Raymarine S1000/2000 is a nice unit I installed on my boat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > There are several brands with several models. I wont be using a
> navigation system. Want a basic unit , any options  you suggest?  thanks
> for any input Mark
>
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Jan  3 17:36:51 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2020 17:36:51 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot
In-Reply-To: <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>
References: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>
 <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <DF9E0A7F-CFCA-4F20-82AB-D9EBD168772D@sunnybeeches.com>

I also have the Raymarine ST1000.  I depend on it heavily, though I don?t consider it to be all that dependable, so I actually have two of them.

There?s a PDF file in the archives written by Bill Wickman describing the installation of an ST100 on a Rhodes 22 that you can find here: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/10/TillerPilotSetuponRhodes22.pdf <http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/10/TillerPilotSetuponRhodes22.pdf>.

My installation is very similar to Bill?s.  He said that he found the the fiberglass at the mounting point was quite thick.  On my boat I found it to be quite thin, so I backed it up with a 3/4? wooden block epoxied in place underneath.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 5:07 PM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Raymarine S1000/2000 is a nice unit I installed on my boat. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> There are several brands with several models. I wont be using a navigation system. Want a basic unit , any options  you suggest?  thanks for any input Mark
> 


From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Sat Jan  4 08:55:49 2020
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 13:55:49 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot
In-Reply-To: <DF9E0A7F-CFCA-4F20-82AB-D9EBD168772D@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <199730474.4116788.1578065457366.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <199730474.4116788.1578065457366@mail.yahoo.com>
 <3174573C-63B3-4428-A8D0-C416DAB0B0B2@aol.com>
 <DF9E0A7F-CFCA-4F20-82AB-D9EBD168772D@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <MWHPR18MB1616CE6FEB2AC07E2C3C867AD1220@MWHPR18MB1616.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

The tiller pilot is great for single handed sailing and I have used the Raymarine for over ten years without any problems.  The installation does not need to interfere with the captain chairs.

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]



Please consider the environment before printing this email.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 5:37 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tiller Autopilot

I also have the Raymarine ST1000.  I depend on it heavily, though I don?t consider it to be all that dependable, so I actually have two of them.

There?s a PDF file in the archives written by Bill Wickman describing the installation of an ST100 on a Rhodes 22 that you can find here: http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/10/TillerPilotSetuponRhodes22.pdf <http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200610/10/TillerPilotSetuponRhodes22.pdf>.

My installation is very similar to Bill?s.  He said that he found the the fiberglass at the mounting point was quite thick.  On my boat I found it to be quite thin, so I backed it up with a 3/4? wooden block epoxied in place underneath.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On Jan 3, 2020, at 5:07 PM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> Raymarine S1000/2000 is a nice unit I installed on my boat. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> There are several brands with several models. I wont be using a navigation system. Want a basic unit , any options  you suggest?  thanks for any input Mark
> 


From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 10:10:48 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:10:48 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] masthead light - steaming vs. all around
In-Reply-To: <1573609859095-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1573351662108-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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 <1573609859095-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1578237048334-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Update on this project:

I decided to go ahead and replace the masthead light and I used the same
Perko model as before.  I found it on Amazon for $37:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FCI5IW
Like Jerry mentioned on this thread, the new lenses are much clearer on the
new light.  

I also replaced the 4 pin electrical connector at the base of the mast since
that had some bent pins.  I used model #184226 from West Marine ($25) based
on Mike's recommendation on another post:
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Power-connector-at-base-of-mast-tt56281.html
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--four-pin-electrical-connector--184226 

I replaced the bulbs that came with the masthead light with 31mm LEDs found
on Amazon for $10:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07J4CVK86

Wiring:
- when replacing the connector on the deck, I only saw one hot wire and a
ground
- there were 3 wires in the cable that runs inside the mast, but one went
unused
- I connected the hot wire at the top of the mast to the hot wires for both
the front and back LED in the masthead light, and then connected the ground
wire from the light to the ground in the cable at the top of the mast

Strategy for using the lights:
- now I have an all around anchor light at the top of the mast
- If I'm sailing at night without power, I'll just use the running lights
and turn off the mast head light
- If I'm using the engine at night, I'll turn on running lights and masthead
light but cover up the rear white light from running lights so the only
white light is the all around mast head light

In the future I could potentially add another switch and run a separate hot
wire to the connector at the base of the mast and have separate hot wires
controlling the front / rear of the masthead light, though I don't actually
plan on pursuing this.

Thanks for the suggestions from the group on this project.

Finished photos:
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ReplacementLightOff.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ReplacementLightOn.jpg> 




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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 10:13:04 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:13:04 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New to Rhodes22
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vrsZOXCNiwbBOCpdjpFNfn=pTxAVrkUqFSr0G5a3r_09ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJM+vru1UywD6gqc1wHOH4gohPHdRC9fOxvxJL64Yq51jwaLDw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1064877537.3131511.1577714493859@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1578237184814-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Welcome to the group and congrats on your new boat!  This list is full of
helpful people with a lot of knowledge and experience, which makes tackling
new boat projects more approachable.



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 10:21:56 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 08:21:56 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1578237716350-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more enjoyable
to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!



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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 12:54:51 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 12:54:51 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <1578237716350-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiVWNgmhwx=5KzTkUUw4mQOKUnf8BK8Zyh20aMjPgx4=7A@mail.gmail.com>

Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here in
Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina 387
has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
Chris Geankoplis

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> enjoyable
> to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Jan  5 13:57:52 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 13:57:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVWNgmhwx=5KzTkUUw4mQOKUnf8BK8Zyh20aMjPgx4=7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CADNTwiVWNgmhwx=5KzTkUUw4mQOKUnf8BK8Zyh20aMjPgx4=7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06ce01d5c3fa$09eb3ef0$1dc1bcd0$@ca>

Chris:

When it is -10C it takes all the good will I have to feel sorry for someone in the Caribbean sitting on his boat in 60 degree weather. 
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 12:55 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy

Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here in
Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina 387
has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
Chris Geankoplis

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> enjoyable
> to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 14:12:15 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 14:12:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <06ce01d5c3fa$09eb3ef0$1dc1bcd0$@ca>
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Gee Graham,
                   But you guys embrace the cold!  I run away!  (grin).
Well I know you are dreaming of those summer days on the lake, hold on to
those thoughts.
Chris Geankoplis
Enosis


On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:57 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Chris:
>
> When it is -10C it takes all the good will I have to feel sorry for
> someone in the Caribbean sitting on his boat in 60 degree weather.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 12:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
>
> Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here in
> Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina 387
> has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
> weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
> Chris Geankoplis
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> > enjoyable
> > to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
>
>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Jan  5 15:57:16 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:57:16 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiUP3TZ6=jZN38icePQzGUuizHiuWUjDsr+S2z4fNv+3fg@mail.gmail.com>
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Chris:
I am just jealous - very jealous. But knowing that doesn't help.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Chris Geankoplis
Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 2:12 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy

Gee Graham,
                   But you guys embrace the cold!  I run away!  (grin).
Well I know you are dreaming of those summer days on the lake, hold on to
those thoughts.
Chris Geankoplis
Enosis


On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:57 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Chris:
>
> When it is -10C it takes all the good will I have to feel sorry for
> someone in the Caribbean sitting on his boat in 60 degree weather.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 12:55 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
>
> Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here in
> Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina 387
> has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
> weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
> Chris Geankoplis
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> > enjoyable
> > to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
>
>


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 16:11:15 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 16:11:15 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <06cf01d5c40a$b81a3520$284e9f60$@ca>
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Does this help?  They were taken on a small uninhabited island (Raccoon
Cay) in the Jumentos in the Bahamas.  I say you need to take your Rhodes
there.  The boat would be perfect.  Heck I'd help you to sail it over!

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 3:57 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Chris:
> I am just jealous - very jealous. But knowing that doesn't help.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of Chris Geankoplis
> Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 2:12 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
>
> Gee Graham,
>                    But you guys embrace the cold!  I run away!  (grin).
> Well I know you are dreaming of those summer days on the lake, hold on to
> those thoughts.
> Chris Geankoplis
> Enosis
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 1:57 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:
>
> > Chris:
> >
> > When it is -10C it takes all the good will I have to feel sorry for
> > someone in the Caribbean sitting on his boat in 60 degree weather.
> > Graham
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Chris Geankoplis
> > Sent: Sunday, January 5, 2020 12:55 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
> >
> > Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here
> in
> > Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina
> 387
> > has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
> > weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <
> > jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> > > enjoyable
> > > to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 17:34:35 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 15:34:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
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Beautiful photos!

I see you kept with the IMF for Enosis II.  Once you get used to that
option, I can see where it would be unappealing to go back.

How do you like living on a sailboat as your permanent home now that you
sold the house and got the bigger boat?  We have dreams of doing the same
eventually.



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Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From koatimundi100 at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 18:51:54 2020
From: koatimundi100 at gmail.com (peter klappert)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 18:51:54 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] NOAA's PLANS TO DISCONTINUE PAPER CHARTS
Message-ID: <CAEZbNGDurZXPK_2c3=7dCyhR8EnxOQ_SZbmpU0VXuKH96maVCQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is from the current issue of PRACTICAL SAILOR. I hope Rhodies will
pipe up and write comments to the NOAA address at the end.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is seeking public
comment on ending production of traditional paper nautical charts. The
transition to Electronic Chart Display and Information System (ECDIS) set
for 2025 is already underway, but this does not mean the end of backup
paper charts, and hopefully not the end of the navigational skills
associated with traditional pilotage. Even if you do not intend to make a
public comment (see link at bottom), here are just a few cautions regarding
digital-only navigation to consider.

*Overreliance:* Digital-only navigation can foster overreliance on
electronics and erode the traditional skills that keep us safe. So long as
the world remains unpredictable, traditional
piloting skills and watchkeeping habits will be essential.

*Garbage in garbage out:* Electronic navigation depends on inputs from
onboard sensors that can have faults. The clearest example is a plotter
that continues to operate in dead reckoning mode, when GPS data drops out.
While most plotters indicate dropped signals with visual or audible alarms,
these alarms can be missed or fail to sound. Navigators need charts and
traditional skills to cross-check their e-charts, sensors and equipment.

*Operator error: *Our coverage of Vestas grounding (see *PS* July 2015
<https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_55/index.html>) incident is the
clearest example of what happens when the navigator misuses the ship?s
navigation system. In that case, the navigator input a route that put the
boat on a well-charted reef. The
error would have been obvious if he had been using the right scale or a
paper chart during route planning.

*Alarm deafness: *If an alarm sounds repeatedly, navigators tend to ignore
them?or simply deactivate them. Choose the alarms appropriate for the
circumstances. Log all alarms and investigate before acknowledging. No
alarm should be deactivated without a very good reason.

*Evolving skill sets:* When you learn to navigate by chart, the skills you
developed can be applied to all charts. Although international standards
for electronic charting equipment exist, not all equipment conforms to
these standards, and there is a wide variation in design. Even skilled
navigators must relearn when using new equipment. This is a particularly
important consideration for sailors looking to upgrade equipment or switch
brands.

*Scale errors: *Every navigator needs to be aware of errors involving
scale. Small hazards can disappear when zoomed out, and looming obstacles
on your route are invisible on small scale views. Every digital chart has a
scale minimum, and using it below this minimum can lead to big trouble.

*Information Overload:* Today?s chartplotters often combine huge array of
data on one screen with overlays, etc. Options such as video inputs that
have nothing to do with navigation further complicate the picture.

For more information on NOAA?s plans, see its Nov. 15, 2019 press release
on its website:  *https://bit.ly/2sPtBEz
<https://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/updates/noaa-seeks-public-comment-on-ending-production-of-traditional-paper-nautical-charts/>.*

The *PS* July 2015 report, ?Operator Error Strands Vestas Wind
<https://www.practical-sailor.com/issues/37_55/features/Operator-Error-Strands-Vestas-Wind_11751-1.html>,?
offers a fuller discussion of risks associated with using electronic charts.

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 19:26:17 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 19:26:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <1578263675983-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Hi Jesse,
               Yes IMF is a must have as far as I am concerned.  Living on
a boat instead of a house is a trade off of many things.  In the end, for
us, this life style is the best way to enjoy our time together.  I used to
have various hobbies and exercise activities that I enjoyed.  We ended up
doing the equivalent things, but they were more real.  No more tread mill.
We walk a long way along a deserted beach, or find a trail through the
bush.  Instead of perhaps doing a little project in the garden it is
changing our  F.W. pump or making a new storage area on board.   Certainly
our time spent together has grown exponentially, but our intolerance or
irritation level with each other has decreased as much.  We know this
because neither of us has gone missing. (grin).  The flexible framework is
6 months on the big boat, 3 months on the little boat, and 3 months
traveling and seeing family and taking care of our own maintenance.
Needless to say neither the boats nor our bodies are under warranty, so we
do spend a bit of time at doctors and dentists or Stan's parts web page
('nuther grin), I think he would make me a really cool prosthesis if I ask
him, though medicare might not cover it.  This life in boats is really
doable, but you give somethings up to get other things.  Keep the dreams!

Chris & Alice
Geankoplis
Enosis II

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 5:34 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Beautiful photos!
>
> I see you kept with the IMF for Enosis II.  Once you get used to that
> option, I can see where it would be unappealing to go back.
>
> How do you like living on a sailboat as your permanent home now that you
> sold the house and got the bigger boat?  We have dreams of doing the same
> eventually.
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From dwbrad at gmail.com  Sun Jan  5 22:35:59 2020
From: dwbrad at gmail.com (David Bradley)
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2020 22:35:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVWNgmhwx=5KzTkUUw4mQOKUnf8BK8Zyh20aMjPgx4=7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiXx3J+W5FMvKuNAquUE=xH4iDB8eFCZGZbnYqv7ez+BqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Chris.  Is Vero Beach, FL where you are based now (when not out world touring)?  We just spent some time there over the holidays and liked it a lot.  Will be back.  The Indian River seems like a great place to stash a boat.

Happy new year to all.

Dave  

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here in
> Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina 387
> has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
> weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
> Chris Geankoplis
> 
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
>> enjoyable
>> to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>> 


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 07:10:25 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 07:10:25 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
In-Reply-To: <9F031F6B-EEB6-4800-8EC4-A65BFE955CC1@gmail.com>
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Hi Dave,
            Yes E2 is at City Marina on a ball. I?ll be commuting to St.
Pete every couple of days for the next 3 weeks. Then a couple of weeks to
prep boat for Bahamas. It is a nice place to be before the jump.
Chris & Alice
Geankoplis

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 22:36, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris.  Is Vero Beach, FL where you are based now (when not out world
> touring)?  We just spent some time there over the holidays and liked it a
> lot.  Will be back.  The Indian River seems like a great place to stash a
> boat.
>
> Happy new year to all.
>
> Dave
>
> > On Jan 5, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Glad I could add a little sunshine to your day. Plenty of sunshine here
> in
> > Vero Beach sitting on Enosis II. But it is cold (60) and this Catalina
> 387
> > has no heat, burr. I know a lot of you guys would love this tropical
> > weather, BOATH (bring on another thermal underwear).
> > Chris Geankoplis
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 10:21, Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for continuing to post your travelogues.  They are even more
> >> enjoyable
> >> to read on a winter day when warm weather seems far away!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >>
>
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Jan  6 22:24:55 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 20:24:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pt. 6 Rhodes in the Med Southern Italy
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Glad to hear it is going well.  It seems like you have a good mix.  Our
adventures will be more modest for now, but we will continue to live
vicariously through your travelogues!



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Jan  7 22:33:51 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:33:51 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I finally got back to this project and finished it.  Here are some notes
others may find helpful when installing a solar vent fan in the 3" hole for
the anchor rode.

Below decks when I screwed on the base of the fan, It didn't mount flush
against the roof of the cabin, so it didn't put enough pressure to
sufficiently compress the silicone gasket that I was using above the deck. 
To address this, I bought a 4" PVC pipe connector and cut off a 3/8" of that
so that I had a 3/8" deep 4" diameter pipe.  I cut this in half so I could
fit it around and between the base of the fan and the roof the cabin.  It
was a two person job: one person to push down on the fan from above and
compress the gasket, and another below to tap in the two pieces of PVC pipe
that served as a giant washer.  Now the fan is on nice and snug.  Thanks
goes to my brother for thinking of using the PVC pipe piece as a washer.   I
put sealant around the gasket which should keep the water out.

On another thread (link below), I had posed the question about keeping the
bow lines and anchor rode off the fan.  The suggestion from Peter and others
was to install chocks.
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/hatch-on-foredeck-tp56302.html

I ended up getting 6" chocks that had 3 holes each, since this would be more
secure than smaller chocks with only two holes.  I decided against
installing them on the toe rail since Graham made the point that the toe
rail is not solid fiberglass (appears to be similar in thickness to the rest
of the deck) and even once I removed the wooden board that covers the edge
of the deck in the forepeak, I couldn't easily access the underside of the
toe rail.

I got a 12"x12"x1/2" HPDE (also known as Starboard) from Amazon.  I cut this
into mounting blocks for the chocks.   I doubled it up so there are two
blocks under each chock (for a total depth of 1").  I went for the 1/2" HPDE
since it was a lot cheaper than the 1" HPDE. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ILJZNY

I sanded the edges of the tops of the blocks to be rounded so that ropes
would not chafe against it.  I also got thin steel plate at Ace Hardware and
cut that into size for backing plates below decks.  I painted those with
Rustoleum before installation.  Finally I used stainless 4" #10 screws with
washers and lock nuts to bolt it all together, and bedded the chock blocks
against the deck and the chock against the mounting blocks with silicone. 
3.5" would have been ideal but I couldn't find that length.  3" was too
short.  I had to get the 4" screws on Amazon since I couldn't find them
locally.  I'll probably add some silicone caps on the end of the screws,
and/or I might use a hacksaw to cut off excess length.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C69MV9S

Side note: since purchasing the screws from Amazon, some other local sailors
recommended a couple of other sources for hard to find hardware:
www.boltdepot.com
www.fastenal.com (there are also local locations Nationwide)

Thanks to Graham and Peter especially for the tips on the installation for
the chocks and block mounting suggestions.  I'm satisfied with how it came
out and it seems quite solid.

Finished photos:
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/FanAndChocks.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/FanUpCloseOnTop.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ChocksUpClose.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ForepeakRoof.jpg> 



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Tue Jan  7 22:35:17 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:35:17 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Tue Jan  7 23:52:55 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 23:52:55 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <076a01d5c5df$7f01a210$7d04e630$@ca>

Jesse: Nice install of the chocks. Why is there the big cleat on the inside
of the foredeck?
I can't quite envision how you ised the pipe as a washer and how it is
attached. Is it shown in the picture?
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2020 10:34 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent

I finally got back to this project and finished it.  Here are some notes
others may find helpful when installing a solar vent fan in the 3" hole for
the anchor rode.

Below decks when I screwed on the base of the fan, It didn't mount flush
against the roof of the cabin, so it didn't put enough pressure to
sufficiently compress the silicone gasket that I was using above the deck. 
To address this, I bought a 4" PVC pipe connector and cut off a 3/8" of that
so that I had a 3/8" deep 4" diameter pipe.  I cut this in half so I could
fit it around and between the base of the fan and the roof the cabin.  It
was a two person job: one person to push down on the fan from above and
compress the gasket, and another below to tap in the two pieces of PVC pipe
that served as a giant washer.  Now the fan is on nice and snug.  Thanks
goes to my brother for thinking of using the PVC pipe piece as a washer.   I
put sealant around the gasket which should keep the water out.

On another thread (link below), I had posed the question about keeping the
bow lines and anchor rode off the fan.  The suggestion from Peter and others
was to install chocks.
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/hatch-on-foredeck-tp56302.html

I ended up getting 6" chocks that had 3 holes each, since this would be more
secure than smaller chocks with only two holes.  I decided against
installing them on the toe rail since Graham made the point that the toe
rail is not solid fiberglass (appears to be similar in thickness to the rest
of the deck) and even once I removed the wooden board that covers the edge
of the deck in the forepeak, I couldn't easily access the underside of the
toe rail.

I got a 12"x12"x1/2" HPDE (also known as Starboard) from Amazon.  I cut this
into mounting blocks for the chocks.   I doubled it up so there are two
blocks under each chock (for a total depth of 1").  I went for the 1/2" HPDE
since it was a lot cheaper than the 1" HPDE. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ILJZNY

I sanded the edges of the tops of the blocks to be rounded so that ropes
would not chafe against it.  I also got thin steel plate at Ace Hardware and
cut that into size for backing plates below decks.  I painted those with
Rustoleum before installation.  Finally I used stainless 4" #10 screws with
washers and lock nuts to bolt it all together, and bedded the chock blocks
against the deck and the chock against the mounting blocks with silicone. 
3.5" would have been ideal but I couldn't find that length.  3" was too
short.  I had to get the 4" screws on Amazon since I couldn't find them
locally.  I'll probably add some silicone caps on the end of the screws,
and/or I might use a hacksaw to cut off excess length.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C69MV9S

Side note: since purchasing the screws from Amazon, some other local sailors
recommended a couple of other sources for hard to find hardware:
www.boltdepot.com
www.fastenal.com (there are also local locations Nationwide)

Thanks to Graham and Peter especially for the tips on the installation for
the chocks and block mounting suggestions.  I'm satisfied with how it came
out and it seems quite solid.

Finished photos:
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/FanAndChocks.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/FanUpCloseOnTop.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ChocksUpClose.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/ForepeakRoof.jpg> 



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 07:33:38 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 05:33:38 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <076a01d5c5df$7f01a210$7d04e630$@ca>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <076a01d5c5df$7f01a210$7d04e630$@ca>
Message-ID: <1578486818318-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi Graham, I think the cleat on the inside of the foredeck would be to tie
off the bitter end of the anchor rode for safety if you were running the
rode through the 3" hole on the foredeck.  I suppose you could tie off again
on the bowcleat on top for the appropriate length if you weren't using all
the rode.  The only use I personally have for the cleat is to grab onto when
trying to shimmy into the forepeak to work on something.  I think the cleat
may have came installed from GB.

Regarding the pipe that I used as a spacer, see the first photo below for a
zoomed in view.  I ran some caulk overtop of it to seal it in place (in
addition to the pressure) so you can't actually see it underneath.  Also
below you can see a photo of a PVC coupling like I used.  I drew in green
around it roughly where I cut off the end to make a 3/8" deep pipe.  There
are also vertical green marks to show where I cut it into two pieces so I
could fit it around the wide lip of the fitting at the base of the fan.  I
tapped in both sides under the deck but on top of the bottom fan fitting so
the PVC pipe fits together again.  I'm probably still not doing a good job
of explaining this but hopefully this helps.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/SolarFanBottom.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/PVCpipe.jpg> 






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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Wed Jan  8 10:39:18 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:39:18 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <1578486818318-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <076a01d5c5df$7f01a210$7d04e630$@ca>
 <1578486818318-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <077701d5c639$cb789310$6269b930$@ca>

Jesse:

Ah ha! The green markings did it for me. I appreciate you taking the time to
walk me through it. 

Actually, that is a very clever and neat solution that I might employ. My
solar vent, which is on my cabin top, leaks occasionally and I have been
unable to see where exactly the leak occurs. I might try your idea to
compress the seal and see if that works. 

I have a number of leaks that only leak when it rains - sometimes. I can
pour water on it with a garden hose until the cows come home but can't make
it leak. That is very frustrating. I think my boat has a contrariness and
desire to play with my mind. Presumably Stan was able to remove such
personality traits with later models.

Graham

Graham Stewart
Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
Kingston Ontario



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:34 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent

Hi Graham, I think the cleat on the inside of the foredeck would be to tie
off the bitter end of the anchor rode for safety if you were running the
rode through the 3" hole on the foredeck.  I suppose you could tie off again
on the bowcleat on top for the appropriate length if you weren't using all
the rode.  The only use I personally have for the cleat is to grab onto when
trying to shimmy into the forepeak to work on something.  I think the cleat
may have came installed from GB.

Regarding the pipe that I used as a spacer, see the first photo below for a
zoomed in view.  I ran some caulk overtop of it to seal it in place (in
addition to the pressure) so you can't actually see it underneath.  Also
below you can see a photo of a PVC coupling like I used.  I drew in green
around it roughly where I cut off the end to make a 3/8" deep pipe.  There
are also vertical green marks to show where I cut it into two pieces so I
could fit it around the wide lip of the fitting at the base of the fan.  I
tapped in both sides under the deck but on top of the bottom fan fitting so
the PVC pipe fits together again.  I'm probably still not doing a good job
of explaining this but hopefully this helps.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/SolarFanBottom.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/PVCpipe.jpg> 






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From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 11:30:30 2020
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 11:30:30 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <077701d5c639$cb789310$6269b930$@ca>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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I must have been lucky. I bought a " NICRO 3" Day/Night Plus" vent kit.
Just following the instructions in the kit, I was able to install
the vent system. I have never had a leak. (?)  During the season this thing
runs 24/7.  I do remove the face at the start of the season
and clean and spray a little lube on the motor. The little Ni Con Battery
has to be replaced about every 3 -4 seasons.
The only reason for this entry is not to frighten someone who is thinking
about taking on this challenge to improve the cabin comfort in their Rhodes
22. These vents are well worth the money and add so much to the
creature comforts the the cabin. I have had my system for 7 years.
Cary Tolbert
S/V Whisper '86

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:39 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Jesse:
>
> Ah ha! The green markings did it for me. I appreciate you taking the time
> to
> walk me through it.
>
> Actually, that is a very clever and neat solution that I might employ. My
> solar vent, which is on my cabin top, leaks occasionally and I have been
> unable to see where exactly the leak occurs. I might try your idea to
> compress the seal and see if that works.
>
> I have a number of leaks that only leak when it rains - sometimes. I can
> pour water on it with a garden hose until the cows come home but can't make
> it leak. That is very frustrating. I think my boat has a contrariness and
> desire to play with my mind. Presumably Stan was able to remove such
> personality traits with later models.
>
> Graham
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 1976 Rhodes 22
> Kingston Ontario
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Jesse Shumaker
> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:34 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
>
> Hi Graham, I think the cleat on the inside of the foredeck would be to tie
> off the bitter end of the anchor rode for safety if you were running the
> rode through the 3" hole on the foredeck.  I suppose you could tie off
> again
> on the bowcleat on top for the appropriate length if you weren't using all
> the rode.  The only use I personally have for the cleat is to grab onto
> when
> trying to shimmy into the forepeak to work on something.  I think the cleat
> may have came installed from GB.
>
> Regarding the pipe that I used as a spacer, see the first photo below for a
> zoomed in view.  I ran some caulk overtop of it to seal it in place (in
> addition to the pressure) so you can't actually see it underneath.  Also
> below you can see a photo of a PVC coupling like I used.  I drew in green
> around it roughly where I cut off the end to make a 3/8" deep pipe.  There
> are also vertical green marks to show where I cut it into two pieces so I
> could fit it around the wide lip of the fitting at the base of the fan.  I
> tapped in both sides under the deck but on top of the bottom fan fitting so
> the PVC pipe fits together again.  I'm probably still not doing a good job
> of explaining this but hopefully this helps.
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/SolarFanBottom.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/PVCpipe.jpg>
>
>
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From joedempsey at hughes.net  Wed Jan  8 16:52:58 2020
From: joedempsey at hughes.net (Joe Dempsey)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:52:58 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1578520378993-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

If I recall, the Marinco instructions discussed a curved deck situation. The
double gasket should work okay. I installed a solar vent in the sliding
hatch over the companionway. This worked fine for a day only style Marinco
vent. I've been debating another location for my day/night vent. Let us know
how yours works out. 



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Joe Dempsey
s/v Respite 
Rhodes 22 1989/2005
Deltaville,VA
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 22:12:47 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:12:47 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit drain
Message-ID: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

On another thread about Chris's stowage for long term cruising, I mentioned
the minor issue of some water coming back up through the cockpit drain. 
James had suggested installing a check valve.
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Long-term-cruising-stowage-tt56285.html

Since I didn't want to add an external check valve that would require adding
holes in the hull to screw in, I decided to install the inline check valve
that James suggested, which was $10 at Amazon.  It has a flapper that pushes
down when water comes in from the top to allow it to go through, but the
flapper is pushed up to seal and block when water comes from the bottom.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YSTX2SW/

The original connector hose was strongly attached, but was manageable to get
off.  It took a couple of tries to find connecting hoses that fit just
right.  I ended up using a different one for top and bottom:

Top:
Flexible Pvc Coupling with Stainless Steel Clamps 1 inch ($9)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GPXJ4HJ

Bottom: 
1 inch To 1.25 inches Straight Turbo/Intercooler/Intake Piping Coupler
Reducer Silicone Hose ($5).
This is built to withstand working pressure of 80 psi and burst pressure of
245 psi
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GX0AFGA

Steps:
1) Slide on the large side of the 1.25 couple onto the thru hull on the
bottom
2) Slide on the flexible coupler to the drain from the cockpit.  This will
stretch to fit, but it take effort.
*** MAKE SURE THE ARROW IS POINTING DOWN ON THE CHECK VALVE ***
3) Insert the check valve as far as it will go into the coupler on the
bottom hose
4) Somehow wedge the top flexible coupler over the top of the check valve. 
At first this may seem impossible.  A strong grip, some choice words, and
grunting were enough to get this all connected in a straight line.
5) Secure with hose clamps.
6) I added quite a bit of tape over the bottom coupler to add strength since
that is the portion that would be under pressure when the check valve is
pushed shut by water coming up from the bottom.  I used electrical tape and
then I also added some Gorilla Waterproof Patch and Seal tape which is very
adhesive and claims to be quite strong.
7) I added waterproof adhesive between the outside of the check valve and
the inside of the drain pipe coming down from the cockpit so water doesn't
seep down through the cracks.

The check valve actually extends up into the hole coming down from the
cockpit so the top connector isn't under pressure.

Some considerations:
- I'll have to make sure this doesn't get clogged 
- It has less throughput for draining then a straight hose which is a bit
wider.  My sailing locations are tame enough that I don't have to worry
about following seas swamping the cockpit so I think I'll be OK.
- I keep a soft foam cone shaped emergency boat plug in the lazarette in
case I need to plug a thru hull quickly.

I'm keeping the old hose in case I need to revert, but I think this will
work out.  I'll report back in the summer.

In summary, with the right parts this turned out to be a cheap and simple
project, but it requires some muscle to get the pieces in place.  

Here are some photos:
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/01Original.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/02BottomOn.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/03BottomAndTop.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/04WithTape.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/05FromTheTop.jpg> 



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 22:16:43 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:16:43 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] gasket for mounting solar vent
In-Reply-To: <CAPQvPRoMn8RnrAu4uoPYsL+h+YKqLm_NEUWtL85qMQXG8O8M1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1574132928267-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578454431728-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <076a01d5c5df$7f01a210$7d04e630$@ca>
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Message-ID: <1578539803353-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I was wondering if people just left the fan on during the season so thanks
for clarifying.  

In case anyone ends up needing a thicker gasket like I did, here's a link to
the one I used ($18):
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QGC2PR2

Using a pressure cooker gasket was not the route I expected to go down, but
I couldn't find a better option.  I ended up cutting it to size (to make a
smaller circle) and then gluing the ends together with super glue.  Now that
it is under pressure and also sealed in with silicone, it's not going
anywhere.  

This all appears to have worked out well in the end, but I'll report back in
the summer if I have any issues.



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Wed Jan  8 22:18:55 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:18:55 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
	drain
In-Reply-To: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I forgot one photo, a top view of the replacement hoses.  I forgot to get a
photo of the original hose, but the original hose was definitely thicker.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TopViewOfReplacementHoses.jpg> 



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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Jan  9 10:55:26 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 10:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for
	cockpit	drain
In-Reply-To: <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>

Jesse:

First, I appreciate you documenting your work so carefully. Thanks for that.
I am wondering, however, why you have the problem in the first place. My
drain goes straight through as was the case in your "before" photo but I
have never had a problem with water coming up the drain. I don't understand
why that would happen so long as the cockpit drain is below the water level.
Might your boat be heavily weighted down at the stern such that forward
motion is sufficient to allow turbulence to overflow the scabbard? Might the
thru hull be generating excessive turbulence to push water up the tube?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:19 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
drain

I forgot one photo, a top view of the replacement hoses.  I forgot to get a
photo of the original hose, but the original hose was definitely thicker.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TopViewOfReplacementHoses.
jpg> 



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From rweiss at siu.edu  Thu Jan  9 10:58:43 2020
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 15:58:43 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve
	for	cockpit	drain
In-Reply-To: <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com>,<07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>
Message-ID: <DM5PR07MB2860CDAF911866F1983C8379C6390@DM5PR07MB2860.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

If I have 5 or more adults in the cockpit, I start to get some water back up through the drain. But my boat came with a plug which I use to keep the cockpit dry on those days.

Bob


Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 9:55 AM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit drain

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

Jesse:

First, I appreciate you documenting your work so carefully. Thanks for that.
I am wondering, however, why you have the problem in the first place. My
drain goes straight through as was the case in your "before" photo but I
have never had a problem with water coming up the drain. I don't understand
why that would happen so long as the cockpit drain is below the water level.
Might your boat be heavily weighted down at the stern such that forward
motion is sufficient to allow turbulence to overflow the scabbard? Might the
thru hull be generating excessive turbulence to push water up the tube?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 10:19 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
drain

I forgot one photo, a top view of the replacement hoses.  I forgot to get a
photo of the original hose, but the original hose was definitely thicker.
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TopViewOfReplacementHoses.
jpg>



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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan 12 09:45:39 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 07:45:39 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for
	cockpit	drain
In-Reply-To: <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>
Message-ID: <1578840339747-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hi Graham, sorry for the delayed response.  It's been a busy few days. 
Regarding your question, I tend to get a bit of water coming back up through
the cockpit drain whenever I have a couple of crew (or more) in the cockpit
with me, which is a lot of the time.  Maybe I'm waited a bit stern heavy
compared to normal.  I have a 9.8 HP Tohatsu on the stern and the engine is
not light, but it sure runs well.  I've tried using a plug at the top but
that has popped out when I tried it.  Maybe I just didn't get it secured
properly.  

The water isn't a big deal, but the excess mainsheet tends to get wet as it
lays at the aft of the cockpit when I'm running close to the wind.  I liked
the suggestions for the inline check valve so I figured I would give it a
try.  I think I'm going to reinforce the bottom connecting tube (the red one
in the photos) just a bit more to be on the safe side.  I'll report back on
the results this summer.





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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Sun Jan 12 10:18:05 2020
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 10:18:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve
	for	cockpit	drain
In-Reply-To: <1578840339747-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com> <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca>
 <1578840339747-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <08d701d5c95b$7ebcffa0$7c36fee0$@ca>

Jesse: 
Seems to me that you are a bit stern heavy. You could check that against the
waterline. My only concern about either the plug or the check valve is that
in extreme circumstances you will want the cockpit to drain as quickly as
possible. If you were to take a wave over the stern the water from one wave
weighing you down only makes you more vulnerable to the next wave. I have
never had that happen to me but I know of another sailboat in my area,
without flotation, that sank under these circumstances as the second wave
went over the companionway step and filled the interior of the boat. You
might want to test the check valve to see if it reduces flow significantly.
Otherwise I think I would be inclined to live with a bit of water in the
cockpit.

My boat originally had drains in the back of the seats by the lazarette that
were only 3/4" and they would regularly plug up with leaves and dirt. I
replaced then with 1 1/2 hoses and thruhulls and replaced the mushroom
thruhulls in the seats with flush mounted scabbards. I think latter model
boats have the larger drains now.

Just a thought.
Graham

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of
Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:46 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
drain

Hi Graham, sorry for the delayed response.  It's been a busy few days. 
Regarding your question, I tend to get a bit of water coming back up through
the cockpit drain whenever I have a couple of crew (or more) in the cockpit
with me, which is a lot of the time.  Maybe I'm waited a bit stern heavy
compared to normal.  I have a 9.8 HP Tohatsu on the stern and the engine is
not light, but it sure runs well.  I've tried using a plug at the top but
that has popped out when I tried it.  Maybe I just didn't get it secured
properly.  

The water isn't a big deal, but the excess mainsheet tends to get wet as it
lays at the aft of the cockpit when I'm running close to the wind.  I liked
the suggestions for the inline check valve so I figured I would give it a
try.  I think I'm going to reinforce the bottom connecting tube (the red one
in the photos) just a bit more to be on the safe side.  I'll report back on
the results this summer.





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From stan at generalboats.com  Sun Jan 12 18:45:08 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:45:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest
In-Reply-To: <fa176ee4-375b-7292-76f6-5443fe885d6e@generalboats.com>
References: <549c17b4-27ce-87ba-77f8-a80c99a1a4f1@generalboats.com>
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Message-ID: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>


I was just thinking it might be fun if we had a Rhodes photo contest.? 
As usual I'm too late.? We already have a winner. (Or the artist may 
have won since I thought that a photo.)

I know, any Rhodes shot sailing Belize waters is going to be the winner, 
not fair.? Dana says this old Rhodes is his third so he has grown to 
taking the Rhodes photogenic profile for granted.? I think it is one of 
the best I have seen in my 50 years so thought I should pass it on for 
the List's guys and dolls to admire.

stan


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From boendert at me.com  Sun Jan 12 20:00:19 2020
From: boendert at me.com (Theodore Boender)
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 20:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest
In-Reply-To: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>
References: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <451AA314-68AA-4B4F-8B3C-132F5E34C64D@me.com>

Cool picture! Even cooler boat. 

Cheers,
Ted

Jacksonville, FL


> On Jan 12, 2020, at 6:46 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I was just thinking it might be fun if we had a Rhodes photo contest.  As usual I'm too late.  We already have a winner. (Or the artist may have won since I thought that a photo.)
> 
> I know, any Rhodes shot sailing Belize waters is going to be the winner, not fair.  Dana says this old Rhodes is his third so he has grown to taking the Rhodes photogenic profile for granted.  I think it is one of the best I have seen in my 50 years so thought I should pass it on for the List's guys and dolls to admire.
> 
> stan
> 
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 06:35:46 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 05:35:46 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
	drain
In-Reply-To: <08d701d5c95b$7ebcffa0$7c36fee0$@ca>
References: <1578539567926-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <1578539935342-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <07c201d5c705$36e7ea30$a4b7be90$@ca> <1578840339747-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
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Message-ID: <CAMc-3fr1Cy5E72ueqQprgrVuD+MGdikO8VXx3UBhpjcya8A9mA@mail.gmail.com>

Graham, your points are valid.  I performed a brief test of pouring water
down the cockpit drain and it worked well.  If I sailed in big waters then
I probably wouldn't pursue this approach.  However, waves coming into the
cockpit are not part of the hazards I encounter out here in the sailing
boondocks of the midwest.  I'm going to treat this coming season as a test
for the inline check valve and see what I think.  I should have some more
experience under my belt by the time I log some longer road trips to waters
where this would be of more concern.  By then I can see see if I want to
revert to the simple setup of the straight tube as a drain without a check
valve and deal with some water in the cockpit when guests are onboard.  As
always, thanks for your thoughts.  It's good to have these considerations
in the back of my mind for future reference.

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 9:18 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote:

> Jesse:
> Seems to me that you are a bit stern heavy. You could check that against
> the
> waterline. My only concern about either the plug or the check valve is that
> in extreme circumstances you will want the cockpit to drain as quickly as
> possible. If you were to take a wave over the stern the water from one wave
> weighing you down only makes you more vulnerable to the next wave. I have
> never had that happen to me but I know of another sailboat in my area,
> without flotation, that sank under these circumstances as the second wave
> went over the companionway step and filled the interior of the boat. You
> might want to test the check valve to see if it reduces flow significantly.
> Otherwise I think I would be inclined to live with a bit of water in the
> cockpit.
>
> My boat originally had drains in the back of the seats by the lazarette
> that
> were only 3/4" and they would regularly plug up with leaves and dirt. I
> replaced then with 1 1/2 hoses and thruhulls and replaced the mushroom
> thruhulls in the seats with flush mounted scabbards. I think latter model
> boats have the larger drains now.
>
> Just a thought.
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Jesse Shumaker
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 9:46 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] installation of inline check valve for cockpit
> drain
>
> Hi Graham, sorry for the delayed response.  It's been a busy few days.
> Regarding your question, I tend to get a bit of water coming back up
> through
> the cockpit drain whenever I have a couple of crew (or more) in the cockpit
> with me, which is a lot of the time.  Maybe I'm waited a bit stern heavy
> compared to normal.  I have a 9.8 HP Tohatsu on the stern and the engine is
> not light, but it sure runs well.  I've tried using a plug at the top but
> that has popped out when I tried it.  Maybe I just didn't get it secured
> properly.
>
> The water isn't a big deal, but the excess mainsheet tends to get wet as it
> lays at the aft of the cockpit when I'm running close to the wind.  I liked
> the suggestions for the inline check valve so I figured I would give it a
> try.  I think I'm going to reinforce the bottom connecting tube (the red
> one
> in the photos) just a bit more to be on the safe side.  I'll report back on
> the results this summer.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 06:45:06 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 05:45:06 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest
In-Reply-To: <451AA314-68AA-4B4F-8B3C-132F5E34C64D@me.com>
References: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>
 <451AA314-68AA-4B4F-8B3C-132F5E34C64D@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc-3fpDHpsfV_okt589TCcQHk0Q+VHzGuxGKzf0tF3gZAxsrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Beautiful boat in a beautiful setting.

Ted, good to see you're still on the list.  Airpower was officially renamed
as Zephyr yesterday.  I had taken off the Airpower name in the summer but
didn't get around to apply Zephyr until yesterday since I wanted to use
some rubbing compound blend out the shadow of the old name which was a bit
darker and shinier.

Side note: it appears there may be an issue with the website since I don't
see recent posts showing up there even though they are coming through via
email.  For example, I don't see this thread on the site:
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 7:00 PM Theodore Boender via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Cool picture! Even cooler boat.
>
> Cheers,
> Ted
>
> Jacksonville, FL
>
>
> > On Jan 12, 2020, at 6:46 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I was just thinking it might be fun if we had a Rhodes photo contest.
> As usual I'm too late.  We already have a winner. (Or the artist may have
> won since I thought that a photo.)
> >
> > I know, any Rhodes shot sailing Belize waters is going to be the winner,
> not fair.  Dana says this old Rhodes is his third so he has grown to taking
> the Rhodes photogenic profile for granted.  I think it is one of the best I
> have seen in my 50 years so thought I should pass it on for the List's guys
> and dolls to admire.
> >
> > stan
> >
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From rbeytagh at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 08:55:50 2020
From: rbeytagh at gmail.com (Richard Beytagh)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 08:55:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest
In-Reply-To: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>
References: <549c17b4-27ce-87ba-77f8-a80c99a1a4f1@generalboats.com>
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Message-ID: <CALbDJ9bc+-_OEfdiXJaJeeW_Z4wPjx3oZWW+NQT+QtnK5sHM3g@mail.gmail.com>

At the risk of being inappropriate, a Chick magnet.!


~~~ _/) ~~~

Richard Beytagh
Phone: 828 337 0180


On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 6:46 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> I was just thinking it might be fun if we had a Rhodes photo contest.
> As usual I'm too late.  We already have a winner. (Or the artist may
> have won since I thought that a photo.)
>
> I know, any Rhodes shot sailing Belize waters is going to be the winner,
> not fair.  Dana says this old Rhodes is his third so he has grown to
> taking the Rhodes photogenic profile for granted.  I think it is one of
> the best I have seen in my 50 years so thought I should pass it on for
> the List's guys and dolls to admire.
>
> stan
>
>
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From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Mon Jan 13 09:19:03 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 14:19:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] photo contest
References: <1040111747.7037220.1578925143761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1040111747.7037220.1578925143761@mail.yahoo.com>

the day I sailed my !st R22 we took the hole front office, engineering department,and sales staff?good day
Mark and Connie West??
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From stan at generalboats.com  Mon Jan 13 10:05:25 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:05:25 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] photo contest
In-Reply-To: <1040111747.7037220.1578925143761@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1040111747.7037220.1578925143761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Connie and Mark Claus,

Thanks for the food care Xmas drop off, lots of good stuff.

Re exposing my gams, now I can see where Rose got her 97 year old 
beauties from.? Of course I was only 91 when you risked your camera on 
mine.

On 1/13/20 9:19 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> the day I sailed my !st R22 we took the hole front office, engineering department,and sales staff?good day
> Mark and Connie West
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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Mon Jan 13 10:41:42 2020
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3fpDHpsfV_okt589TCcQHk0Q+VHzGuxGKzf0tF3gZAxsrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f13003c-3f2b-3fa7-170e-1b13de93cbfb@generalboats.com>
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Message-ID: <003d01d5ca27$f4b42680$de1c7380$@ebsmed.com>

It appears that http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/ hasn't updated since 01/09/20 10:58 am.

That's why I encourage everyone to use "da list" which we own and control.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Jesse Shumaker
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 6:45 AM
To: Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] the too late photo contest

Side note: it appears there may be an issue with the website since I don't see recent posts showing up there even though they are coming through via email.  For example, I don't see this thread on the site:
http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/



From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Jan 13 11:19:50 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] photo contest
In-Reply-To: <1ddc3a3a-4f0d-1151-2181-dd01034e7ca9@generalboats.com>
References: <1040111747.7037220.1578925143761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CADNTwiUdFtEwf3O9YO6T3gJGK-+c2NG7-Git-2frGYz6Wnup1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like Mark and Connie also took the entire bevy of GB  Models in their
skimpy outfits with them too!

Chris G
Enosis

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:05 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Connie and Mark Claus,
>
> Thanks for the food care Xmas drop off, lots of good stuff.
>
> Re exposing my gams, now I can see where Rose got her 97 year old
> beauties from.  Of course I was only 91 when you risked your camera on
> mine.
>
> On 1/13/20 9:19 AM, Mark West via Rhodes22-list wrote:
> > the day I sailed my !st R22 we took the hole front office, engineering
> department,and sales staff good day
> > Mark and Connie West
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>

From robert at pamayared.com  Wed Jan 15 14:20:12 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (robert51)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:20:12 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
Message-ID: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
means anything but would like to find one by April



--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Wed Jan 15 16:53:02 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 16:53:02 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>

Robert,

Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.

I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.

Good luck on your quest.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
> 
> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
> means anything but would like to find one by April
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/


From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 09:26:17 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:26:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
Message-ID: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
one
So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton

--Reuben

Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
Cell: 410-499-8922

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Jan 16 10:41:02 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 15:41:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <112847174.8301452.1579189262294@mail.yahoo.com>

Reuben,? We love our R22 sailing shallow rivers and sound here in NC were about 30 min from Stans plant . We would be happy to let you sail ours if you like. There are a couple of members in Florida hopefully they will help you?
?Mark and Connie? West?S/V FairwindHertford NC

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 16, 2020 9:26 am
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area

Hi
i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
one
So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton

--Reuben

Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
Cell: 410-499-8922

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 10:44:59 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 10:44:59 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHrO9mtvLV291mLWTu6DvQWMEqw42jyzm3E-pVdq7+2miiipiA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ruben,
             Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  The
big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the Med.  So I
can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great the R22 is.  We
spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our
Rhodes.  I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great
Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat that
has been improved over the many years of production.  I know of several
Rhodes  owners on the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.
Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a cornucopia
of information that is freely given.

Chris Geankoplis
ENOSIS  I

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
> one
> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>
> --Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
> Cell: 410-499-8922
>

From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 13:37:45 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 13:37:45 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>

Mark, Connie, and Chris
Thank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22
One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see that

Reuben

Reuben Mezrich
Cell: 410-499-8922

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Ruben,
>             Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  The
> big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the Med.  So I
> can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great the R22 is.  We
> spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
> And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our
> Rhodes.  I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great
> Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat that
> has been improved over the many years of production.  I know of several
> Rhodes  owners on the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.
> Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a cornucopia
> of information that is freely given.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS  I
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
>> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
>> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
>> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
>> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
>> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
>> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
>> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
>> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
>> one
>> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
>> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
>> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>> 
>> --Reuben
>> 
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
>> Cell: 410-499-8922
>> 

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 14:22:48 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:22:48 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUSVaBGP2Wufsvej6SOu2DtqJxrqBCZJn0OLxD6YF5zOg@mail.gmail.com>

I like the 125% which I had for many years, I currently have a 135% but
then there is often very light air where I sail.  Handling is no problem at
all.

Chris G.
Enosis I

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mark, Connie, and Chris
> Thank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22
> One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a
> self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m
> misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy
> enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see that
>
> Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Cell: 410-499-8922
>
> > On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi Ruben,
> >             Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  The
> > big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the Med.  So
> I
> > can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great the R22 is.  We
> > spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
> > And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our
> > Rhodes.  I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great
> > Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat
> that
> > has been improved over the many years of production.  I know of several
> > Rhodes  owners on the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.
> > Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a
> cornucopia
> > of information that is freely given.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > ENOSIS  I
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <
> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
> >> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
> >> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
> >> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I
> could
> >> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
> >> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
> >> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
> >> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
> >> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
> >> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never
> sailed
> >> one
> >> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
> >> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I
> could
> >> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
> >>
> >> --Reuben
> >>
> >> Reuben Mezrich
> >> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
> >> Cell: 410-499-8922
> >>
>

From keywestseccorp at verizon.net  Thu Jan 16 14:37:01 2020
From: keywestseccorp at verizon.net (Mark West)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:37:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <404537038.8399883.1579203421963@mail.yahoo.com>

Reuben,? yes very sailable single handed . We have the 170 Genoa stronger winds no problem light winds some times the sail doesn't pass over when tacking have to help it second person be helpful when that happens. I'm going to go to the 135 Genoa to stop that issue, I hope. We also Have Doyle (UPS) sail that's 150 +or- for lighter winds . The self tacking jib? system I haven't seen yet but I have thought about one, very interested in Stans? design. will try to see Stan this Week end? Maybe he? has info on it for release .Mark?

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thu, Jan 16, 2020 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area

Mark, Connie, and Chris
Thank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22
One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs? are easy enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see that

Reuben

Reuben Mezrich
Cell: 410-499-8922

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Ruben,
>? ? ? ? ? ? Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.? The
> big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the Med.? So I
> can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great the R22 is.? We
> spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
> And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our
> Rhodes.? I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great
> Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.? Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat that
> has been improved over the many years of production.? I know of several
> Rhodes? owners on the west coast of? FL . who will probably contact you.
> Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a cornucopia
> of information that is freely given.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS? I
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
>> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
>> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
>> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I could
>> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
>> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
>> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
>> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
>> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never sailed
>> one
>> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
>> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I could
>> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
>> 
>> --Reuben
>> 
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
>> Cell: 410-499-8922
>> 

From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Thu Jan 16 14:59:06 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 14:59:06 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <404537038.8399883.1579203421963@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
 <404537038.8399883.1579203421963@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAHrO9muTHfvfiNuAvFTiVcDHYVxOOTcrVKBUS-L03o35UaDEDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Mark
If Stan has info, perhaps you could ask him to send me a copy
Thanks
--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:37 PM Mark West via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Reuben,  yes very sailable single handed . We have the 170 Genoa stronger
> winds no problem light winds some times the sail doesn't pass over when
> tacking have to help it second person be helpful when that happens. I'm
> going to go to the 135 Genoa to stop that issue, I hope. We also Have Doyle
> (UPS) sail that's 150 +or- for lighter winds . The self tacking jib  system
> I haven't seen yet but I have thought about one, very interested in Stans
> design. will try to see Stan this Week end  Maybe he  has info on it for
> release .Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 16, 2020 1:37 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
>
> Mark, Connie, and Chris
> Thank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22
> One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a
> self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m
> misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy
> enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see that
>
> Reuben
>
> Reuben Mezrich
> Cell: 410-499-8922
>
> > On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hi Ruben,
> >            Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  The
> > big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the Med.  So
> I
> > can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great the R22 is.  We
> > spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
> > And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our
> > Rhodes.  I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great
> > Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat
> that
> > has been improved over the many years of production.  I know of several
> > Rhodes  owners on the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.
> > Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a
> cornucopia
> > of information that is freely given.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > ENOSIS  I
> >
> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich <
> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have an
> >> Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but I've
> >> come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big to sail
> >> around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even sure I
> could
> >> get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, Sarasota,
> >> So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking around and
> >> especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer I"m pretty sure
> >> that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
> >> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several
> >> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never
> sailed
> >> one
> >> So, the point of this email is to find out if there are other Rhodes 22
> >> sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to Tampa) that I
> could
> >> talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up to Edonton
> >>
> >> --Reuben
> >>
> >> Reuben Mezrich
> >> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
> >> Cell: 410-499-8922
> >>
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Thu Jan 16 17:58:38 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 17:58:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <bc9a50c6-9272-c34e-4e48-a92aeed93bbe@generalboats.com>


Thanks Peter,

We are out of used and new ones so could not help Robert in a timely 
manner. While not an in-house product they are best installed by the 
plant since up pop top positioning is affected by items as innocent as 
mast rake.

stan


On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> Robert,
>
> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>
> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>
> Good luck on your quest.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>


From stan at generalboats.com  Thu Jan 16 18:28:35 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 18:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>


I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a 
different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other 
industries.? No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter, 
literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.? 
I'll see if Robert is still looking.

Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.? I know 
most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.

stan

On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> Robert,
>
> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>
> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>
> Good luck on your quest.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
>
>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>
>


From ews1esq at yahoo.com  Thu Jan 16 19:57:25 2020
From: ews1esq at yahoo.com (Eric Smith)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:57:25 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure/ Bimini top
In-Reply-To: <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
References: <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <C8FFA7C8-CE96-4484-A304-183092CF50CF@yahoo.com>

Stan, glad that pop top strolled into GB. I have trying to get info from GB about purchasing a Bimini top from GB for the last 8 months. Any response?  Eric Smith

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other industries.  No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter, literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.  I'll see if Robert is still looking.
> 
> Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.  I know most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.
> 
> stan
> 
>> On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>> Robert,
>> 
>> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>> 
>> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>> 
>> Good luck on your quest.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>> 
>> 
> 


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Jan 16 21:29:51 2020
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 21:29:51 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
 <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <DFA5BD34-E38F-4FAC-9230-BEC920D20E21@sunnybeeches.com>

This is perhaps good news for Robert, but it leaves open the question of why the General Boats parts website would prominently mention the availability of parts that aren?t actually available (absent a last minute miracle).  It seems to me that this kind of undermines the credibility of the whole effort.

?Peter

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other industries.  No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter, literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.  I'll see if Robert is still looking.
> 
> Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.  I know most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.
> 
> stan
> 
> On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>> Robert,
>> 
>> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>> 
>> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>> 
>> Good luck on your quest.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>> 
>> 
> 


From robert at pamayared.com  Thu Jan 16 23:14:42 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert)
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:14:42 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <DFA5BD34-E38F-4FAC-9230-BEC920D20E21@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
 <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
 <DFA5BD34-E38F-4FAC-9230-BEC920D20E21@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <5e2134b1.1c69fb81.f94ad.d6d7@mx.google.com>

Hey Stan,
I?ll take it.
Thank you
Robert
PS sorry about my Brooklyn coming out in last email

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Peter Nyberg
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:30 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure

This is perhaps good news for Robert, but it leaves open the question of why the General Boats parts website would prominently mention the availability of parts that aren?t actually available (absent a last minute miracle).  It seems to me that this kind of undermines the credibility of the whole effort.

?Peter

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other industries.  No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter, literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.  I'll see if Robert is still looking.
> 
> Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.  I know most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.
> 
> stan
> 
> On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>> Robert,
>> 
>> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>> 
>> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>> 
>> Good luck on your quest.
>> 
>> Peter Nyberg
>> Coventry, CT
>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>> 
>> 
> 



From snstaum at gmail.com  Fri Jan 17 06:27:01 2020
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 06:27:01 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>

I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
some time to dig through my debris.


*Stephen Staum*
*s/v Carol Lee 2*

*Needham, MA*


On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:

> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
> means anything but would like to find one by April
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Fri Jan 17 07:19:46 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 07:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36b-+fLx5P4pnctsw+kSEBStZpPtA3dMzY7wgNVpp3R8KA@mail.gmail.com>

Stan,

How can I get a tiller with holes for the rudder and extension?

Rick Lange

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
> some time to dig through my debris.
>
>
> *Stephen Staum*
> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>
> *Needham, MA*
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if
> year
> > means anything but would like to find one by April
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
>

From robert at pamayared.com  Fri Jan 17 08:11:57 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert@ Pamaya Red)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 08:11:57 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJM+vruSJLusesUgg5i8KHMRsoC5WXrpDoy9VW6oTKyPwyo=aw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Stephen. That would be great.
Robert

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
> some time to dig through my debris.
>
>
> *Stephen Staum*
> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>
> *Needham, MA*
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if
> year
> > means anything but would like to find one by April
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Fri Jan 17 09:39:52 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 09:39:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <5e2134b1.1c69fb81.f94ad.d6d7@mx.google.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
 <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
 <DFA5BD34-E38F-4FAC-9230-BEC920D20E21@sunnybeeches.com>
 <5e2134b1.1c69fb81.f94ad.d6d7@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <cec429c1-77f4-028b-9dd4-ce53c8266a86@generalboats.com>


Robert, if I knew you were from Brooklyn I would not have charged for 
any enclosures I did not have.? What part?? (me: Sheepshead Bay, then 
Brighton Beach, then Manhattan Beach.? PS 98, PS 225 then Lincoln High - 
great school with kids like Arthur Miller, Mel Brooks, Joseph Heller, 
running through the halls).

Oops, I am packing the enclosure and by chance noticing you have found 
one.? Not a problem since Peter advertised the under construction Parts 
site for me.

Peter, thanks for the management consulting.? I was just trying to be 
professional and do what the big guys do.? Walmart's site says they have 
organic grass fed yogurt but when you get to the store they are all 
out.? ITC has Led lights on their professional web site and when I find 
the one I want they are all out of them.? I can get you a long list you 
can help.

Eric, I am very old.? I need documentation.? Who at GB have you been 
contacting re a Bimini.? I am not recalling 8 months of any bimini 
ordering.? Generally when I get a bimini inquiry, I point out that they 
are too costly to properly package and ship so should be picked up at 
the plant or, alternately, purchase an assemble it yourself type.? If we 
send our style by freight, it will arrive as a do it yourself type.

stan




On 1/16/20 11:14 PM, Robert wrote:
> Hey Stan,
> I?ll take it.
> Thank you
> Robert
> PS sorry about my Brooklyn coming out in last email
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Peter Nyberg
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:30 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
>
> This is perhaps good news for Robert, but it leaves open the question of why the General Boats parts website would prominently mention the availability of parts that aren?t actually available (absent a last minute miracle).  It seems to me that this kind of undermines the credibility of the whole effort.
>
> ?Peter
>
>> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other industries.  No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter, literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.  I'll see if Robert is still looking.
>>
>> Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.  I know most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.
>>
>> stan
>>
>> On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
>>>
>>> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
>>>
>>> Good luck on your quest.
>>>
>>> Peter Nyberg
>>> Coventry, CT
>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if year
>>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>
>
>
>


From stan at generalboats.com  Fri Jan 17 11:38:17 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 11:38:17 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36b-+fLx5P4pnctsw+kSEBStZpPtA3dMzY7wgNVpp3R8KA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36b-+fLx5P4pnctsw+kSEBStZpPtA3dMzY7wgNVpp3R8KA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e3910354-da01-2deb-6d9c-d95b35a373fe@generalboats.com>


Rick,

First:? Wood or Glass?

We do not inventory wood tillers any longer but have some used in wood.? 
If Glass, there is a color choice:? White, Green, Navy and Red.? Red 
being my favorite since it has the connection of wood about it.

We can supply glass tillers with the drilled hole for the hiking stick 
bolt and an underside recess for the washer and lock nut. Or supply the 
tiller with a new installed hiking stick.? What we can't do to my 
satisfaction is drill the 3/8" hole for the rudder head pivot bolt since 
this hole is critical in having the at rest tiller being parallel to the 
gunnels.? You could send us your current tiller and we could duplicate 
that hole location or we could tell you how to locate that hole location 
for you to do.

stan




On 1/17/20 7:19 AM, Rick Lange wrote:
> Stan,
>
> How can I get a tiller with holes for the rudder and extension?
>
> Rick Lange
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 6:27 AM Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I should have an extra pop top cover as I got one with each R22.  Give me
>> some time to dig through my debris.
>>
>>
>> *Stephen Staum*
>> *s/v Carol Lee 2*
>>
>> *Needham, MA*
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:18 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure if
>> year
>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>>>
>


From robert at pamayared.com  Fri Jan 17 12:43:50 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (Robert@ Pamaya Red)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:43:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <cec429c1-77f4-028b-9dd4-ce53c8266a86@generalboats.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <C459741F-8C17-450E-B70A-810F8AECC871@sunnybeeches.com>
 <3d96b8a6-c022-b09f-a1ea-073ba2731ee3@generalboats.com>
 <DFA5BD34-E38F-4FAC-9230-BEC920D20E21@sunnybeeches.com>
 <5e2134b1.1c69fb81.f94ad.d6d7@mx.google.com>
 <cec429c1-77f4-028b-9dd4-ce53c8266a86@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <CAJM+vrtg2BJRVKVyq+RG0XoH6k2wtvJsDoF4Se5NNmqhL5L_Rw@mail.gmail.com>

Stan
Haha. Born in East New York( Pitkin Ave., Than Manhattan Beach. Left after
Junior high( Shell Bank). My uncle taught Physics at Lincoln. And I have an
Uncle a drop younger than you named Mel Brooks.
Not the famous one, but always great for getting reservations at restaurants
Robert

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Robert, if I knew you were from Brooklyn I would not have charged for
> any enclosures I did not have.  What part?  (me: Sheepshead Bay, then
> Brighton Beach, then Manhattan Beach.  PS 98, PS 225 then Lincoln High -
> great school with kids like Arthur Miller, Mel Brooks, Joseph Heller,
> running through the halls).
>
> Oops, I am packing the enclosure and by chance noticing you have found
> one.  Not a problem since Peter advertised the under construction Parts
> site for me.
>
> Peter, thanks for the management consulting.  I was just trying to be
> professional and do what the big guys do.  Walmart's site says they have
> organic grass fed yogurt but when you get to the store they are all
> out.  ITC has Led lights on their professional web site and when I find
> the one I want they are all out of them.  I can get you a long list you
> can help.
>
> Eric, I am very old.  I need documentation.  Who at GB have you been
> contacting re a Bimini.  I am not recalling 8 months of any bimini
> ordering.  Generally when I get a bimini inquiry, I point out that they
> are too costly to properly package and ship so should be picked up at
> the plant or, alternately, purchase an assemble it yourself type.  If we
> send our style by freight, it will arrive as a do it yourself type.
>
> stan
>
>
>
>
> On 1/16/20 11:14 PM, Robert wrote:
> > Hey Stan,
> > I?ll take it.
> > Thank you
> > Robert
> > PS sorry about my Brooklyn coming out in last email
> >
> > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> >
> > From: Peter Nyberg
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:30 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
> >
> > This is perhaps good news for Robert, but it leaves open the question of
> why the General Boats parts website would prominently mention the
> availability of parts that aren?t actually available (absent a last minute
> miracle).  It seems to me that this kind of undermines the credibility of
> the whole effort.
> >
> > ?Peter
> >
> >> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:28 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I keep telling anyone who will listen, that the sailboat industry is a
> different animal (particularly its Rhodes 22 division) than all other
> industries.  No sooner had I hung up my email thank you note to Peter,
> literally, in walks what looks like a gently used pop top enclosure.  I'll
> see if Robert is still looking.
> >>
> >> Sorry, that is the last one for the next 2 minutes or 2 years.  I know
> most everything about the boat proper but nothing about its software.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >> On 1/15/20 4:53 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> >>> Robert,
> >>>
> >>> Stan may be your man.  The new Rhodes 22 parts site (
> www.rhodes22parts.com <http://www.rhodes22parts.com/>) mentions the
> Pop-Top Enclosure in the second paragraph of the main page, so it would
> seem likely that General Boats has at least one of these on hand.  The
> ?parts? page shows the Pop-Top Enclosure as item # GB73 with a price of
> $1,495, so I assume that would be new.
> >>>
> >>> I?m pretty sure that production year shouldn?t matter.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck on your quest.
> >>>
> >>> Peter Nyberg
> >>> Coventry, CT
> >>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 15, 2020, at 2:20 PM, robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking for new or used pop top enclosure for 2012 Rhodes. Not sure
> if year
> >>>> means anything but would like to find one by April
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

From ccowie at cowieassociates.com  Fri Jan 17 15:40:07 2020
From: ccowie at cowieassociates.com (Chris Cowie)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:40:07 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
In-Reply-To: <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWTapPEKUW+HdYMoZUHac6na2mQtWqSzcMG301LastGGQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <EB1FE3B3-D3D0-41AE-9372-D9E0A713533E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DM5PR18MB1610FA91035E14FD1C400D09D1310@DM5PR18MB1610.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Reuben:

The smaller jib, 130, is easy to handle and seems more controllable simpler than a self-tacking jib.

Christopher P. Cowie? ??

700 N Fairfax Street
Suite 304
Alexandria, Virginia 22314
703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile
[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]



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-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Reuben Mezrich
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:38 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area

Mark, Connie, and Chris
Thank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22 One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see that

Reuben

Reuben Mezrich
Cell: 410-499-8922

> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hi Ruben,
>             Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  
> The big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the 
> Med.  So I can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great 
> the R22 is.  We spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.
> And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our 
> Rhodes.  I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great 
> Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat 
> that has been improved over the many years of production.  I know of 
> several Rhodes  owners on the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.
> Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a 
> cornucopia of information that is freely given.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> ENOSIS  I
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich 
>> <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have 
>> an Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but 
>> I've come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big 
>> to sail around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even 
>> sure I could get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, 
>> Sarasota, So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking 
>> around and especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer 
>> I"m pretty sure that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.
>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several 
>> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never 
>> sailed one So, the point of this email is to find out if there are 
>> other Rhodes 22 sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to 
>> Tampa) that I could talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up 
>> to Edonton
>> 
>> --Reuben
>> 
>> Reuben Mezrich
>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)
>> Cell: 410-499-8922
>> 

From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Fri Jan 17 22:46:37 2020
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (luis.guzman.ve)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:46:37 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
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I'm in Bradenton, and I do have a 1983 Rhodes 22. Though, it is currently out of the water. I usually keep it at the Bayshore Gardens Marina.Luis GuzmanS/V AquetxaliSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com> Date: 1/17/20  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area Reuben:The smaller jib, 130, is easy to handle and seems more controllable simpler than a self-tacking jib.Christopher P. Cowie? ??700 N Fairfax StreetSuite 304Alexandria, Virginia 22314703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile[ccowie at cowieassociates.com]Please consider the environment before printing this email.-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Reuben MezrichSent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:38 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida areaMark, Connie, and ChrisThank you for reinforcing my already high opinion of the Rhodes 22 One question I have regards sail choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs? are easy enough to tend that self tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see thatReubenReuben MezrichCell: 410-499-8922> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:> > ?Hi Ruben,>???????????? Like you I am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.? > The big boat is down here in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the > Med.? So I can't give you a demo sail but I can inform you how great > the R22 is.? We spend 6 months on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.> And I can tell you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our > Rhodes.? I have sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great > Florida/Keys/Bahamas boat.? Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat > that has been improved over the many years of production.? I know of > several Rhodes? owners on the west coast of? FL . who will probably contact you.> Feel free to contact me if you have questions, and the list is a > cornucopia of information that is freely given.> > Chris Geankoplis> ENOSIS? I> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich >> <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>>> wrote:>> >> Hi>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore, MD. I have >> an Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of Baltimore but >> I've come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380 is too big >> to sail around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm not even >> sure I could get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican Cove, >> Sarasota, So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after looking >> around and especially after several conversations with Stan Spitzer >> I"m pretty sure that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several >> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never >> sailed one So, the point of this email is to find out if there are >> other Rhodes 22 sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to >> Tampa) that I could talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up >> to Edonton>> >> --Reuben>> >> Reuben Mezrich>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)>> Cell: 410-499-8922>> 

From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 09:05:19 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:05:19 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
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Luis
If you do put it back in the water and thinking of going for a sail, please
let me know and I'll drive right up
That goes for anyone else in this part of Florida
--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now wintering in Sarasota, but soon to be a
permanent resident)
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:56 PM luis.guzman.ve <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm in Bradenton, and I do have a 1983 Rhodes 22. Though, it is currently
> out of the water. I usually keep it at the Bayshore Gardens Marina.Luis
> GuzmanS/V AquetxaliSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> -------- Original message --------From: Chris Cowie <
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com> Date: 1/17/20  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:
> [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area Reuben:The smaller
> jib, 130, is easy to handle and seems more controllable simpler than a
> self-tacking jib.Christopher P. Cowie    700 N Fairfax StreetSuite
> 304Alexandria, Virginia 22314703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile[
> ccowie at cowieassociates.com]Please consider the environment before
> printing this email.-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Reuben MezrichSent:
> Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:38 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the
> Sarasota Florida areaMark, Connie, and ChrisThank you for reinforcing my
> already high opinion of the Rhodes 22 One question I have regards sail
> choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t
> seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then
> I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy enough to tend that self
> tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see thatReubenReuben MezrichCell:
> 410-499-8922> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:> > ?Hi Ruben,>             Like you I
> am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  > The big boat is down here
> in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the > Med.  So I can't give you a
> demo sail but I can inform you how great > the R22 is.  We spend 6 months
> on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.> And I can tell
> you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our > Rhodes.  I have
> sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great > Florida/Keys/Bahamas
> boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat > that has been improved
> over the many years of production.  I know of > several Rhodes  owners on
> the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.> Feel free to
> contact me if you have questions, and the list is a > cornucopia of
> information that is freely given.> > Chris Geankoplis> ENOSIS  I> >> On
> Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich >> <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>>>
> wrote:>> >> Hi>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore,
> MD. I have >> an Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of
> Baltimore but >> I've come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380
> is too big >> to sail around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm
> not even >> sure I could get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican
> Cove, >> Sarasota, So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after
> looking >> around and especially after several conversations with Stan
> Spitzer >> I"m pretty sure that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.>>
> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several >>
> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never >>
> sailed one So, the point of this email is to find out if there are >> other
> Rhodes 22 sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to >> Tampa)
> that I could talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up >> to
> Edonton>> >> --Reuben>> >> Reuben Mezrich>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon
> to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)>> Cell: 410-499-8922>>

From luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com  Sat Jan 18 09:27:38 2020
From: luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com (Luis Guzman)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:27:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
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Reuben,

It is going to be a little while?like a month or so.  I need to paint the hull including the centerboard trunk, and get a fuller as the old one is damaged  and it is not worth repairing.

I?m working on other projects and have too much going on right now. I have a 1983 Mercedes 240D that I have apart, and right now I?m starting to put the engine back together.

I?ll let you know as soon as I have it ready.

Regards,



Luis A. Guzm?n
S/V Aquetxali

> On Jan 18, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Luis
> If you do put it back in the water and thinking of going for a sail, please
> let me know and I'll drive right up
> That goes for anyone else in this part of Florida
> --Reuben
> Reuben Mezrich
> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now wintering in Sarasota, but soon to be a
> permanent resident)
> Cell: 410-499-8922
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:56 PM luis.guzman.ve <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm in Bradenton, and I do have a 1983 Rhodes 22. Though, it is currently
>> out of the water. I usually keep it at the Bayshore Gardens Marina.Luis
>> GuzmanS/V AquetxaliSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>> -------- Original message --------From: Chris Cowie <
>> ccowie at cowieassociates.com> Date: 1/17/20  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
>> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:
>> [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area Reuben:The smaller
>> jib, 130, is easy to handle and seems more controllable simpler than a
>> self-tacking jib.Christopher P. Cowie    700 N Fairfax StreetSuite
>> 304Alexandria, Virginia 22314703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile[
>> ccowie at cowieassociates.com]Please consider the environment before
>> printing this email.-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Reuben MezrichSent:
>> Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:38 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the
>> Sarasota Florida areaMark, Connie, and ChrisThank you for reinforcing my
>> already high opinion of the Rhodes 22 One question I have regards sail
>> choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t
>> seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then
>> I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy enough to tend that self
>> tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see thatReubenReuben MezrichCell:
>> 410-499-8922> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:> > ?Hi Ruben,>             Like you I
>> am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  > The big boat is down here
>> in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the > Med.  So I can't give you a
>> demo sail but I can inform you how great > the R22 is.  We spend 6 months
>> on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.> And I can tell
>> you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our > Rhodes.  I have
>> sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great > Florida/Keys/Bahamas
>> boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat > that has been improved
>> over the many years of production.  I know of > several Rhodes  owners on
>> the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.> Feel free to
>> contact me if you have questions, and the list is a > cornucopia of
>> information that is freely given.> > Chris Geankoplis> ENOSIS  I> >> On
>> Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich >> <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:>> >> Hi>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from Baltimore,
>> MD. I have >> an Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of
>> Baltimore but >> I've come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the IP380
>> is too big >> to sail around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay. I'm
>> not even >> sure I could get it into what will be my new marina at Pelican
>> Cove, >> Sarasota, So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after
>> looking >> around and especially after several conversations with Stan
>> Spitzer >> I"m pretty sure that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.>>
>> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several >>
>> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never >>
>> sailed one So, the point of this email is to find out if there are >> other
>> Rhodes 22 sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to >> Tampa)
>> that I could talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up >> to
>> Edonton>> >> --Reuben>> >> Reuben Mezrich>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor (soon
>> to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)>> Cell: 410-499-8922>>


From reuben.mezrich at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 07:06:08 2020
From: reuben.mezrich at gmail.com (Reuben Mezrich)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 07:06:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area
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You have your plate full
Good luck
See you when you're done
--Reuben
Reuben Mezrich
Baltimore, Inner Harbor
Cell: 410-499-8922


On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:27 AM Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Reuben,
>
> It is going to be a little while?like a month or so.  I need to paint the
> hull including the centerboard trunk, and get a fuller as the old one is
> damaged  and it is not worth repairing.
>
> I?m working on other projects and have too much going on right now. I have
> a 1983 Mercedes 240D that I have apart, and right now I?m starting to put
> the engine back together.
>
> I?ll let you know as soon as I have it ready.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Luis A. Guzm?n
> S/V Aquetxali
>
> > On Jan 18, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Luis
> > If you do put it back in the water and thinking of going for a sail,
> please
> > let me know and I'll drive right up
> > That goes for anyone else in this part of Florida
> > --Reuben
> > Reuben Mezrich
> > Baltimore, Inner Harbor (now wintering in Sarasota, but soon to be a
> > permanent resident)
> > Cell: 410-499-8922
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:56 PM luis.guzman.ve <
> luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm in Bradenton, and I do have a 1983 Rhodes 22. Though, it is
> currently
> >> out of the water. I usually keep it at the Bayshore Gardens Marina.Luis
> >> GuzmanS/V AquetxaliSent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Chris Cowie <
> >> ccowie at cowieassociates.com> Date: 1/17/20  3:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
> >> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re:
> >> [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in the Sarasota Florida area Reuben:The
> smaller
> >> jib, 130, is easy to handle and seems more controllable simpler than a
> >> self-tacking jib.Christopher P. Cowie    700 N Fairfax StreetSuite
> >> 304Alexandria, Virginia 22314703.717.9103 ex.204 ? 202.270.1470 mobile[
> >> ccowie at cowieassociates.com]Please consider the environment before
> >> printing this email.-----Original Message-----From: Rhodes22-list <
> >> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Reuben MezrichSent:
> >> Thursday, January 16, 2020 1:38 PMTo: The Rhodes 22 Email List <
> >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in
> the
> >> Sarasota Florida areaMark, Connie, and ChrisThank you for reinforcing my
> >> already high opinion of the Rhodes 22 One question I have regards sail
> >> choices for single handing. Stan offers a self tacking jib, but doesn?t
> >> seem to enthusiastic about it (or perhaps I?m misinterpreting). But then
> >> I?ve read that the 110 or 125% jibs  are easy enough to tend that self
> >> tacking isn?t needed. I?d love to see thatReubenReuben MezrichCell:
> >> 410-499-8922> On Jan 16, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Chris Geankoplis <
> >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:> > ?Hi Ruben,>             Like you I
> >> am a 2 boat owner, an R22 and a 38' Catalina.  > The big boat is down
> here
> >> in Fl., Vero Beach, the little one in the > Med.  So I can't give you a
> >> demo sail but I can inform you how great > the R22 is.  We spend 6
> months
> >> on the Catalina in the Bahamas and 3 months on the Rhodes.> And I can
> tell
> >> you that by April we are looking forward to sailing our > Rhodes.  I
> have
> >> sailed the R22 in the Bahamas too and it is a great >
> Florida/Keys/Bahamas
> >> boat.  Like the IP, the Rhodes is a quality boat > that has been
> improved
> >> over the many years of production.  I know of > several Rhodes  owners
> on
> >> the west coast of  FL . who will probably contact you.> Feel free to
> >> contact me if you have questions, and the list is a > cornucopia of
> >> information that is freely given.> > Chris Geankoplis> ENOSIS  I> >> On
> >> Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:26 AM Reuben Mezrich >> <
> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>>>
> >> wrote:>> >> Hi>> i'm in the process of moving to Sarasota from
> Baltimore,
> >> MD. I have >> an Island Packet 380 that I keep in the Inner Harbor of
> >> Baltimore but >> I've come to find that even with a draft of 4'6" the
> IP380
> >> is too big >> to sail around here, especially in Little Sarasota Bay.
> I'm
> >> not even >> sure I could get it into what will be my new marina at
> Pelican
> >> Cove, >> Sarasota, So.....I've been looking at smaller boats and after
> >> looking >> around and especially after several conversations with Stan
> >> Spitzer >> I"m pretty sure that a Rhodes 22 is the boat in my future.>>
> >> While I"ve seen the Rhodes 22 at the Annapolis boat show on several >>
> >> occasions, I"ve never actually been on her and of course have never >>
> >> sailed one So, the point of this email is to find out if there are >>
> other
> >> Rhodes 22 sailors in the Sarasota area (i.e. from Fort Myers to >>
> Tampa)
> >> that I could talk to and perhaps take a sail before I drive up >> to
> >> Edonton>> >> --Reuben>> >> Reuben Mezrich>> Baltimore, Inner Harbor
> (soon
> >> to be Pelican Cove in Sarasota)>> Cell: 410-499-8922>>
>
>

From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:03:50 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:03:50 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] mid mast support for trailering and winter storage
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I'm wrapping up my projects in the warehouse space and getting ready to put
the boat under a cover outside until April.  I wanted to provide some extra
support at the middle of the mast since it is quite a ways between the
supports at the bow and stern.  As I was pondering how to do this, another
sailor suggested making a support that extends up from the mast step.  I
liked that idea and I think it turned out well.  Some spare 2x4 pieces put
together and some foam pipe insulation for padding made this a cheap
project.  The mast step is a sturdy place to mount it.  Passing this on in
case others may find this helpful.  Side note: the photo of the entire boat
might be the sparkly it will ever be after a thorough clean, buff, and wax
job.

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/LookingBack.jpg> 







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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:09:23 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:09:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] mid mast support for trailering and winter
	storage
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Accidentally hit the post message instead of inserting another image.  Here
are another couple of photos:

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/LookingForward.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/MastSupport.jpg> 
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:31:10 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:31:10 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment
Message-ID: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

I was curious what (if any) type of care people use for the wood in the
cabin.  On my boat, the cabin wood was dry, faded, and chipping in places so
I used a combination of Howard Orange Oil, Howard Resto-a-Finish (Walnut),
and Howard Feed-N-Wax that I saw recommended online.  You can see the before
and after photos below.  The improvement to the table top was dramatic. 
Looking back on this, I think it may been better to use a poly instead of
the wax for the last step.  I think I may try a wipe on poly at the end of
next season for more permanent protection.   

Some of the wood was delaminating underneath on the edges, so I cut some
thin oak to fit underneath on the edges and bolted that on.  I also used an
epoxy mix to coat the edge where it was chipping on top.  Not a fancy
solution but I think it will stop the damage.   While I was at it, I
reinforced some of the parts that take a lot of weight by screwing on some
thin boards underneath.  It seems a bit sturdier now.

Are there any recommendations from the group on how you treat the wood in
the cabin to keep it in good condition?

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TableBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinAftBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinForewardBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/WoodTreatmentProducts.jpg> 




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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:40:55 2020
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment
In-Reply-To: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUjmmJi+W9i3OXAX1T9Z1HjRnBXqRu9PA8NzDArwsJtOw@mail.gmail.com>

That looks great!  Think I?ll try it on Enosis. The boat prefers olive and
Retsina finish but it will have to get used to ?Howard?s?.
Chris
ENOSIS

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 21:29, Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I was curious what (if any) type of care people use for the wood in the
> cabin.  On my boat, the cabin wood was dry, faded, and chipping in places
> so
> I used a combination of Howard Orange Oil, Howard Resto-a-Finish (Walnut),
> and Howard Feed-N-Wax that I saw recommended online.  You can see the
> before
> and after photos below.  The improvement to the table top was dramatic.
> Looking back on this, I think it may been better to use a poly instead of
> the wax for the last step.  I think I may try a wipe on poly at the end of
> next season for more permanent protection.
>
> Some of the wood was delaminating underneath on the edges, so I cut some
> thin oak to fit underneath on the edges and bolted that on.  I also used an
> epoxy mix to coat the edge where it was chipping on top.  Not a fancy
> solution but I think it will stop the damage.   While I was at it, I
> reinforced some of the parts that take a lot of weight by screwing on some
> thin boards underneath.  It seems a bit sturdier now.
>
> Are there any recommendations from the group on how you treat the wood in
> the cabin to keep it in good condition?
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TableBeforeAfter.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinAftBeforeAfter.jpg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinForewardBeforeAfter.jpg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/WoodTreatmentProducts.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
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From alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:49:47 2020
From: alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com (Alexis Seigneurin)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:49:47 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment
In-Reply-To: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3XNYjgeyHpYcL0wYu2s51FffcDtZZosmgM=TEJA-no3OFsdA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jesse,

That looks very nice!

I bought my boat about a year before you did, and I did something similar.
I used Varathane Spar Urethane. This is an oil-based varnish that is
UV-resistant. I used it on the table, cabin sole, and settee.

I was a bit worried about the cabin sole being slippery but it?s not. It
actually has a good grip.

I also had some delamination underneath the settee. I removed parts that
were too bad to be restored, used wood glue to glue other parts, and
varnished everything.

All in all, I am very happy with the result.

Attaching pics as well.

Alexis
[image: 1.jpg]
[image: 2.jpg]
[image: 3.jpg]
[image: 4.jpg]
[image: 5.jpg]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 9:29 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was curious what (if any) type of care people use for the wood in the
> cabin.  On my boat, the cabin wood was dry, faded, and chipping in places
> so
> I used a combination of Howard Orange Oil, Howard Resto-a-Finish (Walnut),
> and Howard Feed-N-Wax that I saw recommended online.  You can see the
> before
> and after photos below.  The improvement to the table top was dramatic.
> Looking back on this, I think it may been better to use a poly instead of
> the wax for the last step.  I think I may try a wipe on poly at the end of
> next season for more permanent protection.
>
> Some of the wood was delaminating underneath on the edges, so I cut some
> thin oak to fit underneath on the edges and bolted that on.  I also used an
> epoxy mix to coat the edge where it was chipping on top.  Not a fancy
> solution but I think it will stop the damage.   While I was at it, I
> reinforced some of the parts that take a lot of weight by screwing on some
> thin boards underneath.  It seems a bit sturdier now.
>
> Are there any recommendations from the group on how you treat the wood in
> the cabin to keep it in good condition?
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TableBeforeAfter.jpg>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinAftBeforeAfter.jpg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinForewardBeforeAfter.jpg>
>
> <
> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/WoodTreatmentProducts.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
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From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Sun Jan 19 21:57:00 2020
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:57:00 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment
In-Reply-To: <CAB3XNYjgeyHpYcL0wYu2s51FffcDtZZosmgM=TEJA-no3OFsdA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAB3XNYjgeyHpYcL0wYu2s51FffcDtZZosmgM=TEJA-no3OFsdA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579489020296-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Nice job Alexis!  Your solution looks great and should be quite durable. 
Thanks for sharing!



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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Mon Jan 20 12:21:53 2020
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 12:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] mid mast support for trailering and winter
	storage
In-Reply-To: <1579485830684-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579485830684-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAPi3tBAcD3saHJ_i60s4++fz--b-kT8eQ8i0zDreE5ZjEpgx0w@mail.gmail.com>

Wow! That looks great and very simple. I was trying to figure out a mid
mast support but I?m sure I would have made it way too complicated. Thanks
for sharing this.
Bob Garrant
s/v Sail la Vie 2000 on the Chester River, Kent Island, MD

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 9:02 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm wrapping up my projects in the warehouse space and getting ready to put
> the boat under a cover outside until April.  I wanted to provide some extra
> support at the middle of the mast since it is quite a ways between the
> supports at the bow and stern.  As I was pondering how to do this, another
> sailor suggested making a support that extends up from the mast step.  I
> liked that idea and I think it turned out well.  Some spare 2x4 pieces put
> together and some foam pipe insulation for padding made this a cheap
> project.  The mast step is a sturdy place to mount it.  Passing this on in
> case others may find this helpful.  Side note: the photo of the entire boat
> might be the sparkly it will ever be after a thorough clean, buff, and wax
> job.
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/LookingBack.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Mon Jan 20 16:13:16 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 16:13:16 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] mid mast support for trailering and winter
	storage
In-Reply-To: <1579485830684-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579485830684-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36bfkt0yQXHCNxnM9fZaf0NEbM11XSfVoxCMdjNyU81yOg@mail.gmail.com>

Physics doesn't require supporting the IMF mast in the middle.  But I have
found a msst stub will allow partly raising the pop top while doing winter
projects.  Stan can provide the stub.

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 9:02 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm wrapping up my projects in the warehouse space and getting ready to put
> the boat under a cover outside until April.  I wanted to provide some extra
> support at the middle of the mast since it is quite a ways between the
> supports at the bow and stern.  As I was pondering how to do this, another
> sailor suggested making a support that extends up from the mast step.  I
> liked that idea and I think it turned out well.  Some spare 2x4 pieces put
> together and some foam pipe insulation for padding made this a cheap
> project.  The mast step is a sturdy place to mount it.  Passing this on in
> case others may find this helpful.  Side note: the photo of the entire boat
> might be the sparkly it will ever be after a thorough clean, buff, and wax
> job.
>
> <http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/LookingBack.jpg>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>

From robert at pamayared.com  Mon Jan 20 20:47:57 2020
From: robert at pamayared.com (robert51)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 18:47:57 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <CAJM+vruSJLusesUgg5i8KHMRsoC5WXrpDoy9VW6oTKyPwyo=aw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJM+vruSJLusesUgg5i8KHMRsoC5WXrpDoy9VW6oTKyPwyo=aw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1579571277261-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Hey Stephen
Let me know if you find it and how much you want for it
Thanks
Robert



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From snstaum at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 06:13:05 2020
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 06:13:05 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Pop top enclosure
In-Reply-To: <1579571277261-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579116012732-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <CAOo_FjebVLA39K+R-h6B=C_EiUaF=iTPUnw27cjphj+Y5KiFBA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAJM+vruSJLusesUgg5i8KHMRsoC5WXrpDoy9VW6oTKyPwyo=aw@mail.gmail.com>
 <1579571277261-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <CAOo_FjfWN6-8m8Jz2rf=JJ8LOyfgwrRRYjChF7p+u8EO=OH0Sg@mail.gmail.com>

will do

*Stephen Staum*

*s/v Carol Lee 2*


On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 8:46 PM robert51 <robert at pamayared.com> wrote:

> Hey Stephen
> Let me know if you find it and how much you want for it
> Thanks
> Robert
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
>

From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Jan 21 11:21:58 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 11:21:58 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>

I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
retriever have had some great adventures in it.

The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to jury
rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only one
or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they would
take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know I
would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
response.

Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
issues resolved.

Looking forward to getting back on the water!

Michael Riter
SV EmmaB
Danielsville, GA
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 21 12:06:23 2020
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:06:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <68070036.9915241.1579626383757@mail.yahoo.com>

Mike,Follow-up on my voicemail..Art Czerwonkys/v MaryJaneAtlanta

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM, Mike Riter<mike at traildesign.com> wrote:   I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
retriever have had some great adventures in it.

The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to jury
rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only one
or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they would
take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know I
would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
response.

Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
issues resolved.

Looking forward to getting back on the water!

Michael Riter
SV EmmaB
Danielsville, GA
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021
  

From sloopblueheron at gmail.com  Tue Jan 21 13:21:50 2020
From: sloopblueheron at gmail.com (Rick Lange)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:21:50 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

Contact Stan at:

stan at generalboats.com

Regards,

Rick Lange


On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:

> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>
> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to jury
> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only one
> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they would
> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know I
> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> response.
>
> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> issues resolved.
>
> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> Danielsville, GA
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>

From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Jan 21 13:23:44 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:23:44 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <68070036.9915241.1579626383757@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <68070036.9915241.1579626383757@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo8+StT7ZMo4ixEjx29auoDchiKCXRk7BKwLZ+koWAbvRA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Art. Photos are always helpful. I attached 3 of them. The close up
of the head sail shows where the strap holding it to the top of the mast
broke. If you look close you can see the whole area is sun/salt damaged or
rotted. The stay is the outer one on the starboard side.

Michael Riter
SV EmmaB



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 12:06 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Mike,Follow-up on my voicemail..Art Czerwonkys/v MaryJaneAtlanta
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM, Mike Riter<mike at traildesign.com>
> wrote:   I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's
> a great
> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>
> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to jury
> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only one
> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they would
> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know I
> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> response.
>
> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> issues resolved.
>
> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> Danielsville, GA
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>
>
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From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Jan 21 13:25:41 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 13:25:41 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Rick. That's the address I've mailed many times with no response.

Michael Riter
SV EmmaB



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Contact Stan at:
>
> stan at generalboats.com
>
> Regards,
>
> Rick Lange
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
> > boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
> > retriever have had some great adventures in it.
> >
> > The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
> jury
> > rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
> > later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
> one
> > or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
> would
> > take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know
> I
> > would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> > contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> > response.
> >
> > Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
> > your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> > issues resolved.
> >
> > Looking forward to getting back on the water!
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > SV EmmaB
> > Danielsville, GA
> > mike at traildesign.com
> > 678-410-8021
> >
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Tue Jan 21 14:48:24 2020
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Richard Stott)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 14:48:24 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>

With all due respect to Stan and his team.
You can purchase a new shroud from Defender 
https://www.defender.com <https://www.defender.com/>
If you remove and send them your old one, they will reproduce it with new turnbuckles to exactly the right length for a reasonable price.
Check their website and give them a call. 
They?re very friendly and helpful  
Now?s the time 
ric 
sv Dadventure 
Hampton Bays 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Jan 21, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick. That's the address I've mailed many times with no response.
> 
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Contact Stan at:
>> 
>> stan at generalboats.com
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
>>> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
>>> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>>> 
>>> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
>> jury
>>> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
>>> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
>> one
>>> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
>> would
>>> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know
>> I
>>> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
>>> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
>>> response.
>>> 
>>> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
>>> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
>>> issues resolved.
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>>> 
>>> Michael Riter
>>> SV EmmaB
>>> Danielsville, GA
>>> mike at traildesign.com
>>> 678-410-8021
>>> 
>> 


From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Tue Jan 21 15:14:38 2020
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 20:14:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <1080859380.10007952.1579637678796@mail.yahoo.com>

Mike,
Do you have a warranty that would make GB responsible for replacement of the stay?? I suspect that the crimp at the end of the stay was defective when you received the boat at delivery.? Big potential safety issue if the stay failed in a strong wind.
Art

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM, Richard Stott<ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:   With all due respect to Stan and his team.
You can purchase a new shroud from Defender 
https://www.defender.com <https://www.defender.com/>
If you remove and send them your old one, they will reproduce it with new turnbuckles to exactly the right length for a reasonable price.
Check their website and give them a call. 
They?re very friendly and helpful? 
Now?s the time 
ric 
sv Dadventure 
Hampton Bays 

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office??? 631-283-1777
Cell??? ??? 516-965-3164 





> On Jan 21, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick. That's the address I've mailed many times with no response.
> 
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Contact Stan at:
>> 
>> stan at generalboats.com
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
>>> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
>>> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>>> 
>>> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
>> jury
>>> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
>>> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
>> one
>>> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
>> would
>>> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know
>> I
>>> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
>>> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
>>> response.
>>> 
>>> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
>>> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
>>> issues resolved.
>>> 
>>> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>>> 
>>> Michael Riter
>>> SV EmmaB
>>> Danielsville, GA
>>> mike at traildesign.com
>>> 678-410-8021
>>> 
>> 
  

From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Jan 21 15:32:33 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 15:32:33 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <1080859380.10007952.1579637678796@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
 <1080859380.10007952.1579637678796@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo-7m7o9PshN1LDXbVrfk1+AhwBuVj8aZ-ATMHkGs4-=rg@mail.gmail.com>

The boat was/is still under warranty when the problems happened. Art is
right on the money, the stay separated right where the cable meets the
swagged end of the fitting.
Thanks for the info Richard.

Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 3:14 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Mike,
> Do you have a warranty that would make GB responsible for replacement of
> the stay?  I suspect that the crimp at the end of the stay was defective
> when you received the boat at delivery.  Big potential safety issue if the
> stay failed in a strong wind.
> Art
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM, Richard Stott<ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:   With all due respect to Stan and his team.
> You can purchase a new shroud from Defender
> https://www.defender.com <https://www.defender.com/>
> If you remove and send them your old one, they will reproduce it with new
> turnbuckles to exactly the right length for a reasonable price.
> Check their website and give them a call.
> They?re very friendly and helpful
> Now?s the time
> ric
> sv Dadventure
> Hampton Bays
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office    631-283-1777
> Cell        516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rick. That's the address I've mailed many times with no response.
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > SV EmmaB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 1:22 PM Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> Contact Stan at:
> >>
> >> stan at generalboats.com
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick Lange
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 11:22 AM Mike Riter <mike at traildesign.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a
> great
> >>> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our
> golden
> >>> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
> >>>
> >>> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
> >> jury
> >>> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short
> time
> >>> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
> >> one
> >>> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
> >> would
> >>> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him
> know
> >> I
> >>> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> >>> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> >>> response.
> >>>
> >>> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems
> with
> >>> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> >>> issues resolved.
> >>>
> >>> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
> >>>
> >>> Michael Riter
> >>> SV EmmaB
> >>> Danielsville, GA
> >>> mike at traildesign.com
> >>> 678-410-8021
> >>>
> >>
>
>

From chcarreon at cox.net  Tue Jan 21 16:18:01 2020
From: chcarreon at cox.net (chuy carreon)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 16:18:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] solid HDPE, true NACA 0012 airfoil design
In-Reply-To: <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <532265786.12976.1579641482071@myemail.cox.net>

Hi All,
   My rudder has holes and needs to be rebuild but was wondering if anyone had the new Solid HDPE rudder from GB?  If so, is it a NACA 0012 design? And cost? Just want the rudder!

Thanks,
Chuy Carreon
AfterMath  Tempe, Arizona

From rlowe at vt.edu  Tue Jan 21 16:24:39 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 21:24:39 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] solid HDPE, true NACA 0012 airfoil design
In-Reply-To: <532265786.12976.1579641482071@myemail.cox.net>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABkv36YY+NwAMEB-V7Qa=HHRwzUyAJVWnGp33eQ6FpBoFSU4Qw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAAY+qo-dHaJZWhmeFX+CtzvaGk6=T2r6ddeWry-G=AafR61U5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <1278632A-C771-4274-9B95-120C6B3A8247@stottarchitecture.com>
 <532265786.12976.1579641482071@myemail.cox.net>
Message-ID: <DM6PR05MB6938568969AE0ECFB912F6F2C10D0@DM6PR05MB6938.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Chuy,
I'm not aware of Stan making rudders out of HDPE.  If he is, that's news to me.  My rudder blade also needed replacing and I believe they gave me a new fiberglass one.  - rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of chuy carreon
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 4:18 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] solid HDPE, true NACA 0012 airfoil design

Hi All,
   My rudder has holes and needs to be rebuild but was wondering if anyone had the new Solid HDPE rudder from GB?  If so, is it a NACA 0012 design? And cost? Just want the rudder!

Thanks,
Chuy Carreon
AfterMath  Tempe, Arizona

From stan at generalboats.com  Tue Jan 21 17:04:40 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 17:04:40 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>


Mike,

Thanks for liking your Rhodes.

I have not seen the several emails you refer to.? Were they sent to:
 ??? stan at generalboats.com? (stan at rhodes22.com is long since not received.)

I do recall getting an early email from you re some non-pressing issue 
which I responded to asking you to stop by the plant on your way back 
from WI to GA but I do not recall ever getting your response to that 
suggestion.? If you are now back in GA we can ship you a new stay with 
guidance on installation should you need that.? As a default member of 
our new Rhodes Owners Cooperative (ROC) the stay is a free replacement.? 
Since our emails have been running afoul, in case you missed it, we have 
a third web site dedicated to Rhodes Parts and Services?? 
www.rhodes22parts.com Since, by its very nature, this site will never 
cease being under construction, it is kept published for whatever value 
it can provide to the ROC community while under perpetual building.? 
When you get a chance, visit it and join the Rhodies criticisms, 
productive or otherwise.

There are a few additional sites coming, covering other ROC members' 
future benefits.? Will keep you posted.? In the meantime, should you run 
across any he, she or they, that you may think may have an interest, I 
am still looking for partnering for GB's second 60 years, now that we 
have all this experience.

stan

On 1/21/20 11:21 AM, Mike Riter wrote:
> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>
> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to jury
> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only one
> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they would
> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know I
> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> response.
>
> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> issues resolved.
>
> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>
> Michael Riter
> SV EmmaB
> Danielsville, GA
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>


From daysails at aol.com  Wed Jan 22 08:25:09 2020
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 13:25:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment
In-Reply-To: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
References: <1579487470480-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <2051142201.10244355.1579699509297@mail.yahoo.com>

Wow!? Nice job.? Thanks for sharing.? Joe Riley s/v Second Wind, Athens Ga


-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Shumaker <jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
To: rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sun, Jan 19, 2020 9:29 pm
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cabin wood treatment

I was curious what (if any) type of care people use for the wood in the
cabin.? On my boat, the cabin wood was dry, faded, and chipping in places so
I used a combination of Howard Orange Oil, Howard Resto-a-Finish (Walnut),
and Howard Feed-N-Wax that I saw recommended online.? You can see the before
and after photos below.? The improvement to the table top was dramatic. 
Looking back on this, I think it may been better to use a poly instead of
the wax for the last step.? I think I may try a wipe on poly at the end of
next season for more permanent protection.? 

Some of the wood was delaminating underneath on the edges, so I cut some
thin oak to fit underneath on the edges and bolted that on.? I also used an
epoxy mix to coat the edge where it was chipping on top.? Not a fancy
solution but I think it will stop the damage.? While I was at it, I
reinforced some of the parts that take a lot of weight by screwing on some
thin boards underneath.? It seems a bit sturdier now.

Are there any recommendations from the group on how you treat the wood in
the cabin to keep it in good condition?

<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/TableBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinAftBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/CabinForewardBeforeAfter.jpg> 
<http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/file/t907/WoodTreatmentProducts.jpg> 




--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From mike at traildesign.com  Wed Jan 22 12:20:21 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2020 12:20:21 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the reply Stan. I am back in the sunny (and cold!) south. If you
would be so kind as to send the new stay to me at the shop. The address
there is 800 Homestead Rd, Danielsville, GA 30633. The broken stay is the
on the starboard side and runs through the shroud to the top of the mast.

If you could let me know when it ships I would appreciate it. That way I
can be sure that someone here is looking for it.

What did you want to do about the head sail?

Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021



On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:04 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for liking your Rhodes.
>
> I have not seen the several emails you refer to.  Were they sent to:
>      stan at generalboats.com  (stan at rhodes22.com is long since not
> received.)
>
> I do recall getting an early email from you re some non-pressing issue
> which I responded to asking you to stop by the plant on your way back
> from WI to GA but I do not recall ever getting your response to that
> suggestion.  If you are now back in GA we can ship you a new stay with
> guidance on installation should you need that.  As a default member of
> our new Rhodes Owners Cooperative (ROC) the stay is a free replacement.
> Since our emails have been running afoul, in case you missed it, we have
> a third web site dedicated to Rhodes Parts and Services
> www.rhodes22parts.com Since, by its very nature, this site will never
> cease being under construction, it is kept published for whatever value
> it can provide to the ROC community while under perpetual building.
> When you get a chance, visit it and join the Rhodies criticisms,
> productive or otherwise.
>
> There are a few additional sites coming, covering other ROC members'
> future benefits.  Will keep you posted.  In the meantime, should you run
> across any he, she or they, that you may think may have an interest, I
> am still looking for partnering for GB's second 60 years, now that we
> have all this experience.
>
> stan
>
> On 1/21/20 11:21 AM, Mike Riter wrote:
> > I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
> > boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
> > retriever have had some great adventures in it.
> >
> > The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
> jury
> > rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
> > later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
> one
> > or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
> would
> > take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know
> I
> > would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> > contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> > response.
> >
> > Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
> > your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> > issues resolved.
> >
> > Looking forward to getting back on the water!
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > SV EmmaB
> > Danielsville, GA
> > mike at traildesign.com
> > 678-410-8021
> >
>
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Thu Jan 23 10:19:34 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:19:34 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2d362e08-c7da-d152-b538-e6c434f7bbed@generalboats.com>


Mike, sorry you didn't make it here.? Sending the stay is no problem, 
sizing it close enough could be.? Two suggestions: We send one and if it 
is beyond the leeway provided by the top adjusting fitting we do another 
per your telling us it should be plus or minus X inches.? Or ship us 
your damaged one to duplicate.? I am good with either way.

Tell or retell me about the sail,

Half my problem is everyone thinks I am still 92 instead or 94. The 
other half is that with my brother gone and now my bride of 70 years, 
for the moment this is now a one manager operation.

stan


On 1/22/20 12:20 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> Thanks for the reply Stan. I am back in the sunny (and cold!) south. If you
> would be so kind as to send the new stay to me at the shop. The address
> there is 800 Homestead Rd, Danielsville, GA 30633. The broken stay is the
> on the starboard side and runs through the shroud to the top of the mast.
>
> If you could let me know when it ships I would appreciate it. That way I
> can be sure that someone here is looking for it.
>
> What did you want to do about the head sail?
>
> Michael Riter
> President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
> Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:04 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Thanks for liking your Rhodes.
>>
>> I have not seen the several emails you refer to.  Were they sent to:
>>       stan at generalboats.com  (stan at rhodes22.com is long since not
>> received.)
>>
>> I do recall getting an early email from you re some non-pressing issue
>> which I responded to asking you to stop by the plant on your way back
>> from WI to GA but I do not recall ever getting your response to that
>> suggestion.  If you are now back in GA we can ship you a new stay with
>> guidance on installation should you need that.  As a default member of
>> our new Rhodes Owners Cooperative (ROC) the stay is a free replacement.
>> Since our emails have been running afoul, in case you missed it, we have
>> a third web site dedicated to Rhodes Parts and Services
>> www.rhodes22parts.com Since, by its very nature, this site will never
>> cease being under construction, it is kept published for whatever value
>> it can provide to the ROC community while under perpetual building.
>> When you get a chance, visit it and join the Rhodies criticisms,
>> productive or otherwise.
>>
>> There are a few additional sites coming, covering other ROC members'
>> future benefits.  Will keep you posted.  In the meantime, should you run
>> across any he, she or they, that you may think may have an interest, I
>> am still looking for partnering for GB's second 60 years, now that we
>> have all this experience.
>>
>> stan
>>
>> On 1/21/20 11:21 AM, Mike Riter wrote:
>>> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a great
>>> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our golden
>>> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
>>>
>>> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
>> jury
>>> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short time
>>> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
>> one
>>> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
>> would
>>> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him know
>> I
>>> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
>>> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
>>> response.
>>>
>>> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems with
>>> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
>>> issues resolved.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
>>>
>>> Michael Riter
>>> SV EmmaB
>>> Danielsville, GA
>>> mike at traildesign.com
>>> 678-410-8021
>>>
>>


From mike at traildesign.com  Fri Jan 24 13:45:31 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 13:45:31 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <2d362e08-c7da-d152-b538-e6c434f7bbed@generalboats.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>
 <2d362e08-c7da-d152-b538-e6c434f7bbed@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo_JXA0TtvofFBh=XQFd=FAtX6czcec2p7tOmjVLaeqmSg@mail.gmail.com>

How about if I remove the stay and measure it and send you that
measurement? That would seem to be somewhat accurate and the most
expedient.

The head of the Genoa is dry rotted (long term sun damage is my guess) and
the strap holding to the top of the mast broke. The result was the sail
slid down the furler tube and jammed up against the furler. I couldn't use
the line to furl it and had to go forward and wrap it by hand. A short term
repair was applied by returning to the marina, lowering the mast, punching
a hole through the thickest part of the head and tying it back to the mast
with a short piece of 1/4" line. This allowed us to finish the trip, but
hasn't held much past that.

Michael Riter
President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021



On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 10:19 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Mike, sorry you didn't make it here.  Sending the stay is no problem,
> sizing it close enough could be.  Two suggestions: We send one and if it
> is beyond the leeway provided by the top adjusting fitting we do another
> per your telling us it should be plus or minus X inches.  Or ship us
> your damaged one to duplicate.  I am good with either way.
>
> Tell or retell me about the sail,
>
> Half my problem is everyone thinks I am still 92 instead or 94. The
> other half is that with my brother gone and now my bride of 70 years,
> for the moment this is now a one manager operation.
>
> stan
>
>
> On 1/22/20 12:20 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply Stan. I am back in the sunny (and cold!) south. If
> you
> > would be so kind as to send the new stay to me at the shop. The address
> > there is 800 Homestead Rd, Danielsville, GA 30633. The broken stay is the
> > on the starboard side and runs through the shroud to the top of the mast.
> >
> > If you could let me know when it ships I would appreciate it. That way I
> > can be sure that someone here is looking for it.
> >
> > What did you want to do about the head sail?
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
> > Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
> > mike at traildesign.com
> > 678-410-8021
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:04 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> Thanks for liking your Rhodes.
> >>
> >> I have not seen the several emails you refer to.  Were they sent to:
> >>       stan at generalboats.com  (stan at rhodes22.com is long since not
> >> received.)
> >>
> >> I do recall getting an early email from you re some non-pressing issue
> >> which I responded to asking you to stop by the plant on your way back
> >> from WI to GA but I do not recall ever getting your response to that
> >> suggestion.  If you are now back in GA we can ship you a new stay with
> >> guidance on installation should you need that.  As a default member of
> >> our new Rhodes Owners Cooperative (ROC) the stay is a free replacement.
> >> Since our emails have been running afoul, in case you missed it, we have
> >> a third web site dedicated to Rhodes Parts and Services
> >> www.rhodes22parts.com Since, by its very nature, this site will never
> >> cease being under construction, it is kept published for whatever value
> >> it can provide to the ROC community while under perpetual building.
> >> When you get a chance, visit it and join the Rhodies criticisms,
> >> productive or otherwise.
> >>
> >> There are a few additional sites coming, covering other ROC members'
> >> future benefits.  Will keep you posted.  In the meantime, should you run
> >> across any he, she or they, that you may think may have an interest, I
> >> am still looking for partnering for GB's second 60 years, now that we
> >> have all this experience.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >> On 1/21/20 11:21 AM, Mike Riter wrote:
> >>> I have a recycled R22 that I bought from GB in July of 2018. It's a
> great
> >>> boat and I'm super excited to own it. My wife and I along with our
> golden
> >>> retriever have had some great adventures in it.
> >>>
> >>> The head sail (genoa) failed last April while on a sail. I was able to
> >> jury
> >>> rig it and get back but it turned out to be a temporary fix. A short
> time
> >>> later one of the stays popped several strands and is hanging on by only
> >> one
> >>> or two. I contacted Stan about the problems and he replied that they
> >> would
> >>> take care of it. I was out of town for work at the time and let him
> know
> >> I
> >>> would get in touch as soon as I was back. Well, I've now been trying to
> >>> contact him frequently for a few months now and am not getting any
> >>> response.
> >>>
> >>> Stan I see you post on here regularly and knowing you have problems
> with
> >>> your email sometimes, I'm hoping you will see this and we can get the
> >>> issues resolved.
> >>>
> >>> Looking forward to getting back on the water!
> >>>
> >>> Michael Riter
> >>> SV EmmaB
> >>> Danielsville, GA
> >>> mike at traildesign.com
> >>> 678-410-8021
> >>>
> >>
>
>

From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Jan 25 08:30:42 2020
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 08:30:42 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <CAAY+qo_JXA0TtvofFBh=XQFd=FAtX6czcec2p7tOmjVLaeqmSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>
 <2d362e08-c7da-d152-b538-e6c434f7bbed@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo_JXA0TtvofFBh=XQFd=FAtX6czcec2p7tOmjVLaeqmSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0dbc1fb4-b7c8-bd48-4785-25658f1390c0@generalboats.com>


Sure, let's try that.

Is the genoa a 130 or 175?

stan

On 1/24/20 1:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> How about if I remove the stay and measure it and send you that
> measurement? That would seem to be somewhat accurate and the most
> expedient.
>
> The head of the Genoa is dry rotted (long term sun damage is my guess) and
> the strap holding to the top of the mast broke. The result was the sail
> slid down the furler tube and jammed up against the furler. I couldn't use
> the line to furl it and had to go forward and wrap it by hand. A short term
> repair was applied by returning to the marina, lowering the mast, punching
> a hole through the thickest part of the head and tying it back to the mast
> with a short piece of 1/4" line. This allowed us to finish the trip, but
> hasn't held much past that.
>
> Michael Riter
> President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
> Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
> mike at traildesign.com
> 678-410-8021
>
>
>
>


From mike at traildesign.com  Tue Jan 28 18:47:44 2020
From: mike at traildesign.com (Mike Riter)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:47:44 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Head sail repair and broken stay
In-Reply-To: <0dbc1fb4-b7c8-bd48-4785-25658f1390c0@generalboats.com>
References: <CAAY+qo-v5zqGcqKeRzFkYSt-rjM=8gcx2Zi9sF-zAOsKUkw4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <28877683-5d45-2831-d597-093f879f95d2@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo88DDmT+Raz1AM++D5vMLgAAu6Ank9Hevz4yydedQnweA@mail.gmail.com>
 <2d362e08-c7da-d152-b538-e6c434f7bbed@generalboats.com>
 <CAAY+qo_JXA0TtvofFBh=XQFd=FAtX6czcec2p7tOmjVLaeqmSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <0dbc1fb4-b7c8-bd48-4785-25658f1390c0@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <CAAY+qo8UA8342ju8ezSya1KDzdoPkp7=J_pbxgvJ-_CAhLT8jg@mail.gmail.com>

I pulled the stay off the boat and measured it 4 times. The length worked
out to be 26' 4".  I measured it from the tip of each fitting (fork on one
end and threaded rod for turnbuckle on the other). I've attached a photo
that shows both fittings on either end of the stay.

The Genoa is a 130.

Michael Riter
SV EmmaB
mike at traildesign.com
678-410-8021



On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

>
> Sure, let's try that.
>
> Is the genoa a 130 or 175?
>
> stan
>
> On 1/24/20 1:45 PM, Mike Riter wrote:
> > How about if I remove the stay and measure it and send you that
> > measurement? That would seem to be somewhat accurate and the most
> > expedient.
> >
> > The head of the Genoa is dry rotted (long term sun damage is my guess)
> and
> > the strap holding to the top of the mast broke. The result was the sail
> > slid down the furler tube and jammed up against the furler. I couldn't
> use
> > the line to furl it and had to go forward and wrap it by hand. A short
> term
> > repair was applied by returning to the marina, lowering the mast,
> punching
> > a hole through the thickest part of the head and tying it back to the
> mast
> > with a short piece of 1/4" line. This allowed us to finish the trip, but
> > hasn't held much past that.
> >
> > Michael Riter
> > President, Trail Design Specialists, Inc.
> > Lead Instructor, Trail Master and mechanized training
> > mike at traildesign.com
> > 678-410-8021
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Tue Jan 28 21:30:31 2020
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn)
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 19:30:31 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Main Removal
In-Reply-To: <7D0F4024-DD11-41B3-9A13-73EBEA7AE6D7@sunnybeeches.com>
References: <1509393378287-0.post@n5.nabble.com>
 <7D0F4024-DD11-41B3-9A13-73EBEA7AE6D7@sunnybeeches.com>
Message-ID: <1580265031362-0.post@n5.nabble.com>

Peter- found this in the archives. Thank you so much! You contribute a lot to
this list and it is much appreciated.



-----
Cheers,

Shawn
s/v Sweet Baboo (Recycled 86)
--
Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/

From rca02536 at gmail.com  Wed Jan 29 09:21:19 2020
From: rca02536 at gmail.com (Robert Allen)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:21:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] parts website
Message-ID: <3CB5D4BD-E147-4AA0-BFAB-B2A32D6726C2@gmail.com>

Hi all,

     what is the link to the parts website thought i had it but can?t readily find it.  Thanks

Bob Allen
S/V air force


From rlowe at vt.edu  Wed Jan 29 09:29:27 2020
From: rlowe at vt.edu (Lowe, Rob)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 14:29:27 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] parts website
In-Reply-To: <3CB5D4BD-E147-4AA0-BFAB-B2A32D6726C2@gmail.com>
References: <3CB5D4BD-E147-4AA0-BFAB-B2A32D6726C2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR05MB6941087C97766B06045E4734C1050@MN2PR05MB6941.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Bob,

http://www.rhodes22parts.com/

Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Robert Allen
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:21 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] parts website

Hi all,

     what is the link to the parts website thought i had it but can?t readily find it.  Thanks

Bob Allen
S/V air force