[Rhodes22-list] Motor lift “bearings”?

Mon Jun 29 14:16:53 EDT 2020

All
Since 2013 I've been asking Stan about sending or selling or otherwise supplying me somehow with a new motor mount.
He finally replied at one point years ago, that I would have to bring the boat to him to have this done.
After my recent  mishap, I asked him again to price all the parts I would need, for my insurance quote - didn’t  hear back.
Turns out the insurance claim was denied anyway- “rot isn’t covered” even though there was no  visible signs whatsoever.
So I bough the most robust  West Marine mount available with the longest vertical travel so the I can use the boat until I have another mount solution. 
I’m also searching for a motor solution, fix a used motor. 
Trying  to get quotes for repairs is hard enough these days, but the time it will take in the shop is just silly. 
Fortunately I have an older 2 stoke motor I can use until I sort all this out. 
BOATS!!!
Ric 
sv Dadventure 
HBNY

Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 

> On Jun 29, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> I use an 8 hp. Yamaha with a 20" shaft.  No problems with this setup on my 2003 Rhodes with Stan's electric motor mount.
> Don  Ithaca, NY
>    On Monday, June 29, 2020, 08:26:37 AM EDT, Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:  
> 
> Does anyone use a 20” long shaft, considered a “Long Shaft” 
> Most, including both my motors are 25” shaft. (extra long) 
> If there are any Rhodes with 20” motor shafts, I would like to see the motor mount for such. 
> Brt to all 
> Be safe 
> Ric 
> sv Dadventure 
> HBNY 
> 
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office    631-283-1777
> Cell        516-965-3164 
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>> On Jun 29, 2020, at 1:33 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Olivier,
>> I'm trying to remember the details of exactly how the mount worked. We didn't pay it much attention though we may have added a stop at the bottom. I know the design kept evolving after we bought the boat in 1998 and as the boat was a 1991, it may have been a design from a previous year.
>> 
>> I wonder how long that plastic had been fatigued and if that had something to do with your difficulties with the mount?  I don't remember a whole lot of difficulty raising and lowering the motor and I'm not the strongest or most athletic sort. In spite of that, I did most of the raising and lowering. it did take moving close to the mount and raising it hand over hand. I guess it would have been more problematic if we were not always sailing with two people but it almost always went quickly. It did sometime take a nudge on the top of the motor to get it going down.
>> 
>> Hope you find a quick fix and glad you are getting out a lot.
>> 
>> Mary Lou
>> 
>> On 6/28/2020 1:16 PM, Olivier Hecht wrote:
>>> Thanks Roger. That is a lot different and looks like an upgrade!  I wish
>>> I’d taken more pictures before leaving the boat at the yard again...I can
>>> do that the next time I’m there. Basically though, there are four round
>>> protrusions on the movable carriage in the mount at the four corners of
>>> that carriage. Those are the parts that fit inside the plastic bearings I’m
>>> trying to replace. BTW, those protrusions themselves look pretty work
>>> themselves so upgrading the carriage might be the best long-term idea.
>>> Raising and lowering the motor has always been very tough with this design.
>>> One of the many reasons I’m so hesitant to use the motor! Olivier
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:05 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Olivier,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve attached a close-up photo of the linear bearing on my GBI motor
>>>> mount.  Note that it doesn’t seem at all like yours.  My linear bearings
>>>> are T-shaped pieces of glass-filled PTFE that ride in 6061 T6 Aluminum
>>>> C-Channels.  This design of linear bearing has a huge bearing surface area,
>>>> so the wear rate is minimal.  The design is self flushing to keep abrasive
>>>> debris out of the bearing.  Plus, the bearings can be easily swapped out
>>>> W/O disassembling the whole motor mount when replacement is required after
>>>> many, many service hours.  I don’t know when GBI changed the design; but,
>>>> it might be helpful if you provided a few more photos of your motor mount.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, it might be helpful if you make a few measurements of the
>>>> ID/OD/Length of your bearings.  They might be standard plastic pipe sizes
>>>> and easily sourced from Grainger, McMaster-Carr, or United States Plastics
>>>> Corp.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> 
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>>>> Windows 10
>>>> 
>>>> From: Olivier Hecht<mailto:oehecht at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 9:01 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Motor lift “bearings”?
>>>> 
>>>> Did 50 miles on Fretless from 3 pm Friday to 6 pm today, with a nice break
>>>> at a marina from 7 pm to 8 am!
>>>> 
>>>> An unpleasant part of the experience was dealing with the motor lift
>>>> getting crooked in the tracks because two of the four plastic “bearings”
>>>> the mount rides on were worn out/missing. See pics. I sent a note to Stan
>>>> but also wanted to ask here if anyone has replaced these. Any tips on
>>>> replacing them without dismounting the motor if that’s possible?  The side
>>>> tracks appear to come off and I was able to retrieve one of the bearings
>>>> that was loose in the track after parking the  it on its trailer. Getting
>>>> new ones in will probably be harder though...
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks. Olivier
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