[Rhodes22-list] Swinging at anchor?

Ric Stott ric at stottarchitecture.com
Sun May 3 10:11:07 EDT 2020


Did not intend to diminish the quality perceptions of General Boats or especially its captain. Mistakes and mishaps are always around us in life. 
It’s understandable that once in awhile, steel and stainless steel parts get mixed  up and the mistake is missed by the installer.  It’s Even possible that a guy like me who has owned and repaired boats since I was 4 years old could screw up so bad that I sunk my boat right on its own trailer and caused a catastrophic condition that would have ended the useful life of some Rhodes 22s. 
But thanks to Stan, I was able to purchase a newly molded CB cap. I had to perform surgery on it as well because it did not include the rigging block and Stainless Steel turning post needed to rig the  centerboard control line. Stan offered an easier solution, but I didn’t like its simplicity and insisted on rebuilding the original control system design which was much more difficult. 
Covid 19 actually gave me the spare time I needed to fix the cap the floor boards and console base that were destroyed in the haul. 
Repairs are nearly completed as well as a new wiring and switch panel. I will be painting the bottom today and ready for launch In a few days. My 1984 Rhodes will launch this year in better shape than ever thanks to Stan‘s dedication, perseverance and long life.  
I’ll add to the story with some pics in a few days. Right now I have some bottom painting to do- which always makes me Ahem - a little Blue. 
Ric
Dadventure
Hampton Bays. 

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> On May 3, 2020, at 9:13 AM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
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> 
> I spot a little damage control work needed here:
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> It is true, I told Ric we do not use steel anywhere on our boats, because we do not.  There is no steel, other than stainless steel anywhere in the plant boat parts inventory with the exception of maybe anchors or trailers.
> 
> Rhodes bow and stern eyes are, and always have been stainless steel.  If you have a steel nut or any steel parts on your boat, it is from an installation of prior owners or a misstep by a supplier who sold that item as being marine grade stainless steel.  I have heard that story before about how the centerboard cap was put on with stainless machine screws and stainless fender washers but with steel nuts.  That is Nuts.  (Actually we use ss aircraft lock nuts.)   We don't have steel nuts in our plant.  If we used steel anywhere on our boats, after 50 years in production there would never be so many Rhodes out there sailing.  The plant is open for anyone who wants to drop in unannounced, with a magnet.
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> stan
> 
>> On 5/3/20 8:33 AM, Ric Stott wrote:
>> I use my Bow eye for mooring and I can still reach it by kneeling on the bow and reaching under the pulpit. Hauling the boat last fall, I noticed the bow eye was loose and had about 3/4” of play. I crawled into the forepeak and found that the two nuts on the Stainless D ring were rusted  steel. The wood book had rotted at the washer and compressed 3/4”. I didn’t want to cut the eye off because I was unsure I could find the exact size replacement and did not want to epoxy the holes shut and re-drill them. So I crawled back into the bow with a Dremmel tool, surgically cut the nuts off and salvaged the Bow Eye. Stan told me his shop would never do use regular steel nuts, but obviously they did it more than once.
>> And that’s just the beginning of my “Bad Haul Leads to  Centerboard Cap Rebuild” story.  If anyone is interested, I’ll take the time to document what not to do when hauling or launching a Rhodes 22 with an old style centerboard.
>> Ric
>> sv Dadventure
>> Hampton Bays.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On May 2, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Carl Geisser <cgeisser12345 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have used the bow eye for anchoring if the weather is bad or strong tides
>>> in the area we are in, although mine pulled out, not because of original
>>> construction,  but somebody put regular steel nuts on the inside, and they
>>> rusted through. I plan on replacing it this year.
>>> I like the painter idea, as hanging upside down to thread rode through eye
>>> is no fun, even less if choppy.
>>> We have used many different configurations to anchor, once even tried 3
>>> different anchors, trying to hold straight into th he waves, which were
>>> broadside to the wind, something weird about the lagoon or tide, not sure .
>>> It didn't work though, because the waves changed direction 2 hours later,
>>> one of the rolliest nights spent at anchor.
>>> Once used 3 anchors to hold in strong tide with 20-30 knot winds going with
>>> the tides, was very nervous and got up to look at lines every 2 hours. Only
>>> one anchor dragged (small dingy anchor) and we did not get blown out into
>>> the gulf stream, so was all good.
>>> We used the storm jib a couple times for a staysail, a little big, but it
>>> worked.(we always called it the anchor sail, not knowing the proper term)
>>> If the weather is calm, we mostly use the bow cleat, just easier and
>>> quicker.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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