[Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

Tue May 12 11:01:54 EDT 2020

Alexis,
Cool, those tires look adequate.  The reason I ask is I had never paid any attention to my trailer tires, I just assumed they were adequate.  One day I'm in the midst of taking my boat to the lake and I'm in a parking lot.  I happened to look in my side mirror at the boat and noticed the trailer tire was split right now the middle of the tread and what looked like an inner tube was visible!  Upon further inspection I discovered the tires were standard automotive tires and not adequate for a trailer.  I didn't have a spare tire with me.  I ended up leaving the boat where it was and came back with a jack and stands.  I took both tires off and took them to be replace with trailer tires.  So now I pay attention to trailer tires. - rob

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Alexis Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

Thanks, Rob.

The previous owner had done a good job keeping the boat in good shape. It’s all on my shoulders now...

The tires I used are Carlisle Sport Trail ST 225/75D15 LRD. I believe this is what was originally used on the trailer, and the load range (D) should be adequate.

And you’re right, I don’t have the mast crutch and raising system on the boat. I use wood supports to hold the mast in place when trailering, and I keep the other accessories inside the cabin. I feel like the mast is more solidly held in place this way.

Good to know about welding brackets on the trailer. I don’t think I am going to have to do that this time but I will keep that in mind for the future.
Alexis

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 8:51:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

Alexis,
Nice looking boat.  Hope you get her repaired and splashed soon.

I had similar problems with my bunks and ended up replacing all of them.  I also had to have a couple of the metal support pieces re welded.  If you need to go that route, make sure they are welded vertically.  They welded mine on perpendicular to the frame which made them too close together.  This was for the keel guide boards and I could not get the boat loaded as the keel would not slide it.  I ended up replacing the 2X guide boards with 1X which gave me sufficient room.

What type of tires did you put on the trailer?  I hope trailer tires, automobile tires do not have the weight capacity you will need.  Good time to take a look.

I notice you do not have the mast crutch.  How about the mast raising system?  A word from experience, when you raise the mast you'll want to get the aft end of it much higher up in the air before you raise.  Good luck! - rob

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Alexis Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 4:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

My trailer is a single-axle Triad trailer. All the galvanized steel is in good shape. It’s just the wood that was probably too old, and the screws came off.

I am attaching a picture of the bracket that ended up sticking out. It’s the little one, on the inside bunk, not the outside one.

And yes, you can see I had a flat tire. I am not being very lucky this year... I did replace both tires as they were from 2007, which - I also learned the hard way - is past age.

Regarding the rollers, I think my trailer only has one at the aft end. I think it supports the centerboard but nothing else.

Alexis

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:26:47 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

I actually carry a roll of Flex Tape (as seen on TV holding a boat together)
purchased from Home Depot:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/FLEX-SEAL-FAMILY-OF-PRODUCTS-Flex-Tape-Black-4-i
n-x-5-ft-Strong-Rubberized-Waterproof-Tape-TFSBLKR0405/302634866

The commercial also shows the tape's waterproof property by patching a hole
in an aquarium FROM THE INSIDE, not really useful for a hole in a boat, I
would think.

I found an investigative report that seems to validate the commercial claim
at:
https://www.insideedition.com/investigative/25621-are-the-commercials-hyped-
up-investigation-tests-whether-flex-tape-can-hold-a-boat-together

Hopefully, I will never need to use it.  According to my "friend", Mr.
Murphy, in the unlikely event that I will need the tape, the adhesive will
probably be dried out!

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I'd rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe,
Rob
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

Not that I'm planning on holing my boat, but I wonder if any boaters carry
tape that could be applied to a hole like this underwater? - rob

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Intertape-Polymer-Group-3-in-x-5-yds-VersaTape-U
nderwater-Tape-99688/206300616

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Seigneurin <alexis.seigneurin at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

I am quite impressed most of you are recommending for me to do the repair
myself! I have watched countless hours of Boatworks Today and Sail Life
videos, so I kind of know the steps for this repair, but I wasn't feeling
like it was a good first project for a fiberglass repair. It's structural
and under the water line, so definitely needs to be done right. I will think
about it and we'll see what I decide!

Thanks all,
Alexis

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Hank
<hnw555 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:29:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Launch... and the story of an epic failure

I also didn't have the benefit of all of the youtube videos now available to
show folks how to do things when I did my first fiberglass repair.  Much
easier to be a DIYer these days.

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 10:00 AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com>
wrote:

> I agree that fiberglass work is not difficult, but I would also
> suggest that repairing a hole below the waterline may not be the best
> first-time project. It would be great, though, if you could find
> someone to give you a hand like Hank was able to that would be idea.
> FWIW I would recommend Allan H. Vaites Fiberglass Repair Manual <
> https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0071569146?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag
> =1ba00-01000-org00-mac00-other-smile-us000-pcomp-feature-scomp-wm-5&re
> f=aa_scomp
> >
> .
>
> Mark Whipple
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:14 AM Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is definitely true. I had some fiberglass issues on another
> > boat
> that
> > I used to own and was gonna have the yard do it.Instead one of the
> > other guys in the marina showed me that it wasn't that hard to do
> > and I did it myself.  Very satisfying and glad I was a able to learn
> > these skills.  If you are at all handy you can probly do this yourself
as well.
> >
> > On Sun, May 10, 2020, 05:39 JeffSmith <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Fiberglass work is fairly easy, if you have the time and access to
> > > the boat.
> > > Check out some YouTube videos and figure out whether you have the
> skills
> > > and
> > > patience.  You probably do.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Jeff Smith
> > > 2009 R22 #101 RADIANT
> > > Atlantic Highlands Municpal Harbor Atlantic Highlands, NJ
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> 2000 R22 *Tiny Dancer*
> 1986 Nimble 30 (For Sale)
> 1982 Com-Pac 15 (For Sale)
> Boston, MA
>

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