[Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
Ric Stott
ric at stottarchitecture.com
Tue Nov 17 10:00:20 EST 2020
Steven
I’m glad my pics came through.
Yours a looks more like Cary’s than mine.
You both have have plastic outside of the U channel.
I think mine rails are screwed to the transom using screws from the laz, that is, the inside of the transom - directly into the plastic strips on the inside of my rails.
I have a 1/2 plastic running vertical on the inside of each U channel.
The StarBoard or whatever that is, decreases the dept of the u channel by 1/2”, so there is only a 1/2” channel to hold the motor on the boat.
The mount and transom was very weak in the area and the whole transom flexed - even in the area the rails attached, which hold have stiffened it vertically at least.
I like your set up better and will move in that direction.
It appears that your Plastic strips are screwed into the transom at like- 3” o.c.
The material looks to be about 3/4’ x 1” - can you confirm that for me?
Are those thru bolts?
What is the backing behind the transom?
How are the U channels fastened to the Plastic strips on each side?
Thanks - that’s alotta questions.
Ric Dadventure
Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office 631-283-1777
Cell 516-965-3164
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steven. It does look similar to my tracks. Less secure than I would
> have thought. Your track looks to be longer than my set up.
> Thanks again for the help.
> Cary
> S/V Whisper
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 8:56 AM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My boat is a 1990 but probably similar vintage motor lift. The stopper is
>> only on the starboard side track with is longer than the port side. It is
>> not through-bolted to the transom and just unscrews. The bolt is covered
>> with a plastic or composite bushing.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 9:11 AM Richard Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nabble is a PITA
>>> Here are some pics.
>>> Westmarine mount is temporary.
>>> The GB 1-1/4" x 1-1/4" rails are 11 7/8” apart - out to out.
>>> My new rails will extend past the useless rub rail.
>>> But -They will not extend past the top of the transom.
>>> It will be manual.
>>> The stops are simple 1/4” aluminum bolts at the bottom of the rails.
>>> More to follow
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2020, at 9:48 AM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Rob
>>>> There is a good reason for asking questions. The more brains the
>> better.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 8:32 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cary,
>>>>> I don't believe grease on the tracks would be a good idea. Any grease
>>>>> would attract and hold dirt, which will just add to the wear. I
>> think a
>>>>> spray lubricant such as Sailcoat would be the most you would want to
>>> use. -
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:07 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Help with motor mount
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ric. You mentioned, from your survey, that we had the same
>> mount.
>>>>> The pictures would be really great. If you could give me the
>>>>> dimensions that would put me in business.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I am at it, I have one more question for those on da List. Does
>>>>> anyone have experience with silicone dielectric grease as lubricant
>> on a
>>>>> track. I am thinking of the rails of the motor lift.
>>>>> Cary
>>>>> Whisper
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cory
>>>>>> The pics I see of the red boat has a motor mount a grade level up
>> from
>>>>>> mine. My aluminum rails are attached directly to the hull. There is
>> a
>>>>>> Delrin (I think) strip that runs on the inside of the channel, bottom
>>> to
>>>>>> top. I took some pics and will send them out on Monday if I can.
>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The minute I get off the waiting list at your marina I'll pull the
>>>>>> trigger
>>>>>>> on getting a recycled one from Stan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Lee. Your boat looks like it was upgraded in its life. That
>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> is much newer and a better thought out system than the one on my
>> 86.
>>>>>>>> Rob's 90 something has something similar for his 9.9 hp with all
>>>>>> electrical
>>>>>>>> controls.
>>>>>>>> Any luck on tracking down your Rhodes 22 to be?
>>>>>>>> Cary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 11:18 AM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't know if any of the attached of my former 1986 AT EASE will
>>>>> help.
>>>>>>>>> Might need to enlarge. Seems like a variety of stops might work.
>>>>> Good
>>>>>>>>> luck!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lee
>>>>>>>>> No Boat Yet
>>>>>>>>> Claytor Lake, VA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:16 AM Cary Tolbert <
>>> retiredtoby at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am asking for help with photos for an 86 Rhodes. My boat was
>>>>>>>>>> apparently hit
>>>>>>>>>> in the marina and I have a damaged motor mount. I was able to
>>>>> salvage
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>> of the damaged parts and replicate them from existing patterns of
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>> parts.
>>>>>>>>>> However, the LOWER STOPS were missing. So at this point I have no
>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> I need to do to replicate these parts. Photos will be very
>> helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> Measurement would also be greatly appreciated. I am guessing any
>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> an 82 to an 89 may have a very similar set up. Ric I am glad you
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> send pictures with your computer. You mentioned that we have the
>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>> up. What type of material did Stan use for the stops? Stan said,
>>> he
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> longer makes this type of mount and cannot furnish parts. So I
>> must
>>>>>>>> rely
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> your help and my modest skills to be able to sail next season.
>>>>>>>>>> It must have been a lot of force on the collision as I found
>> three
>>>>>>>> 1/4
>>>>>>>>>> inch stainless steel bolts bent to 90 degrees and one bolt was
>>>>> sheared
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> two pieces.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>> Cary Tolbert
>>>>>>>>>> S/V Whisper "86
>>>>>>>>>> Radford, VA
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