[Rhodes22-list] Photos and gmail v Mac mail

[Ric Stott]

This is great news. 
I am writing from my Mac mail, where I know how to change the subject column, which I don’t know how to do yet in the gmail program.
I learned few new things today - have a long way to go before I actually know anything.  
The pic was taken three years ago. 
Is there a size limit for photos? 
Ric 
Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
www.stottarchitecture.com
Office	631-283-1777
Cell		516-965-3164 





> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:18 PM, Cary Tolbert <retiredtoby at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Got it Ric
> Very nice, wish I were there.
> Cary
> S/V Whisper "86
> 
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:14 PM Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I see a beautiful sunset, Ric.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 1:05 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> [image: IMG_1943.jpeg]
>>> This is an experiment.
>>> I have not been able to send attachments using my mac mail - ever.
>>> I have logged on to gmail and I'm replying from gmail.
>>> I'm attaching a photo to see if it goes through.
>>> LMK
>>> Ric
>>> Dadventure
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> www.stottarchitecture.com
>>> Office 631-283-1777
>>> Cell 516-965-3164
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Jesse Shumaker <
>>> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all the quick responses, links to articles and details of your
>>> experiences removing "the devil's glue."  It really helps to have the
>>> collective knowledge and research of the group!
>>> 
>>> I ordered some Marine Formula DeBond and a razor blade scraper knife.  I
>>> also made a wooden wedge and have a rubber mallet ready for some *very
>>> *gentle
>>> taps after patiently waiting for the adhesive remover to go to work.  The
>>> DeBond should get here on Friday so this will be a weekend project.
>> Until
>>> then, I have other boat projects underway to keep me busy when I'm not at
>>> work.
>>> 
>>> I'll be sure to follow up this weekend and let you know the (hopefully
>> not
>>> gripping) conclusion.
>>> 
>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>> S/V Zephyr
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:42 PM David Talbot <talbotdavid50 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK I am adding to this as I JUST got through managing a 5200-attached
>> hatch
>>> on forward deck
>>> STRONGLY recommend you not use mallet  or cutting as this can damage the
>>> deck.
>>> DEBOND (can get via Amazon)works well and is safer
>>> Spray a good layer of the debond under one side of the tabernacle and
>> wait
>>> a few minutes, then lightly tap wooden wedges into the gap. patience
>>> essential here. Spray more in and advance a little bit at a time. It will
>>> work, just do not force it or you will split the fiberglass. Will need a
>>> sharp chisel to clean off the gel coat
>>> Agree that Practical Sailor article very helpful as well
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder how 3M 5200 compares to adult barnacle attachment secretion
>>> 
>>> which
>>> 
>>> is nearly impossible to break.
>>> 
>>> Maybe Debond would work on barnacles!
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:07 PM
>>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
>>> 
>>> Mark: I wouldn't even use it for the hull-deck joint. In fact I had to
>>> break the seal to remove the foredeck on my boat. I may be the only
>>> 
>>> person
>>> 
>>> to ever do that but still I don't think anything is permanent. 5200 and
>>> similar are incredible adhesives but if you are primarily interested in a
>>> sealant where high adhesive qualities are not the highest priority and if
>>> there is any possibility that you might want to break the bond in the
>>> future, I would always seek an alternative. 3M 4200 is a very strong
>>> adhesive but is easier to remove.
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> 
>>> Behalf
>>> 
>>> Of Mark Whipple
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:28 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
>>> 
>>> I've read that if you take a strong, thin wire like piano wire you can
>>> slowly cut through the 5200 (AKA Devil's Glue). Don't know if heating it
>>> would help. I've never needed to try this so if you do let us know how it
>>> goes.
>>> 
>>> About the only legit use I've heard of for 5200 is a hull-to-deck joint.
>>> That's something that you hope you'll never have to disassemble.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> Boston, MA
>>> 
>>> 2000 R22 *Luna Mia*
>>> 1987 Nimble 30 *For Sale*
>>> 1982 Com-Pac 16 *For Sale*
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:03 AM Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where something is adhering to fiberglass with 5200 I think a
>>> sufficient whack to break the bond is likely to remove the gel coat
>>> before the bond breaks. A whack might work for a metal to metal bond
>>> but I would still be very careful especially for something like cast
>>> 
>>> aluminum.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
>>> Kingston Ontario
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Ric Stott
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 8:09 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] removing tabernacle
>>> 
>>> Careful wack with Rubber mallet!!
>>> Ric
>>> Dadventure
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:43 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>>> 
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey Jesse,
>>> Sounds like PL5200. Strongest stuff in the world. Just about
>>> impossible
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> remove. You might make a hack saw frame but with the blade at 90
>>> degrees
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> a normal one. Slowly cut between the cabin roof and tabernacle. At
>>> some point you can apply a rotational motion and should get it off.
>>> You will Have an ugly scarred area. Research to see if they have
>>> come up with a solvent for 5200. If so, use that rather than the
>>> butchery method. Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>> Enosis.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 at 21:51, Jesse Shumaker <
>>> 
>>> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I'm attempting to remove the mast tabernacle in order to
>>> install the Dwyer Halyard Organizer plate (part DH288).  The three
>>> screws came out easily, but the tabernacle is still attached very
>>> strongly with an adhesive.  I don't know what adhesive was used.
>>> The adhesive is colored white.  I tried heating up the plate with a
>>> soldering iron and tried to squeeze in a razor but have been unable
>>> 
>>> to break the seal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate any tips from the group on how to free the
>>> tabernacle from the cabin top.  Thanks in advance for any advice!
>>> 
>>> Jesse Shumaker
>>> S/V Zephyr
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