[Rhodes22-list] Saildrive Weight Effect On Fore/Aft Trim & Boat Speed

[Tom Van Heule]

Thanks Rodger.  This is very true and noticeable with the right (meaning
wrong) sail plant too.

I am not good enough to not have the outboard, but I certainly don't like
the weight. Especially with the trailering balance. And travelling waves of
lake michigan.

As we all have different outfittings, I like the idea of placing batteries
most efficiently to balance, just not 10k worth of an issue to fix.  She
sails really well still IMHO.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 11:51 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> When some of you start talking about heavy batteries and then have to add
> dead weight to balance out the port/starboard trim, I just cringe!  The
> Rhodes 22 is also sensitive to fore/aft trim.  Adding a lot of weight in
> the stern is the best way to cause the fore/aft trim to be down by the
> stern.  Not only does this use up some of the boat’s reserve buoyancy; but,
> down by the stern trim is SLOW!  The area of the hull aft of the shoal
> draft keel needs to slope upwards in order to speed the flow of water off
> the transom W/O turbulence.  Down by the stern trim effectively turns that
> surface area into a huge trim plate with a massive increase in drag.  The
> fore/aft trim is best if the boat is level at the gunnel.  In smooth water,
> the boat is actually slightly faster with a slight down by the bow trim.
> But, this is not advisable if there are waves > 1-2 ft because the boat
> needs the buoyancy in the bow to punch thru waves and ride up over them.
> Please rethink where you locate all that weight.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
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> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Shawn Boles <shawn.sustain at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:48:09 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Saildrive
>
> I have had a Torqueedo 1003 long for 10 years. It is fine for lake sailing
> and can be recharged from the house battery using a 12 volt cable from the
> manufacturer. This setup recharges while you sail and I often come back w/
> full charge.
>
>
> You do not need the remote control as the tiller can tilt up when motor is
> down.
>
> Cheers
> Shawn
> s/v Sweet Baboo
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2020, 5:27 AM Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You have to have the seperate control box. The tiller control won’t work
> > when the motor in lowered to be in the water. Otherwise it’s pretty cool
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Charles Nieman
> >
> >
> > > On Aug 31, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah okay, long shaft - thank you!  Can the tiller handle rotate upwards
> > to some extent while operating? I find that necessary for my Merc 3.5
> > >
> > >> On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:03 PM, CPBoyce <cp.boyce at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Travel 1003 long shaft as our backup. Will try to send photos
> tomorrow.
> > >>
> > >> Celia
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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