[Rhodes22-list] Estimated Cost Of A Harken Traveler System

Fri Apr 2 21:25:35 EDT 2021

I recently installed the Lewmar Size 1 mainsheet traveler kit for about $450.00.  I am getting ready to mount on backstays when I raise mast and I am already sorry I didn’t go with Stans system due to length of sheets, I didn’t trust the friction system.  Will let you all know how it works out but I’m already kicking myself. 

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 7:34 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The only other system I’m aware of that sort of matches the GB 29 Traveler is the Harken Windward Sheeting Traveler System.  For the sake of discussion, I have priced out the pieces/parts to build such a Harken system.  Note: This estimate assumes you have the old 2nd generation traveler so you can mount the Harken track onto the bar, have the mounting sockets on the backstays, and you have the necessary tools and skills to do the assembly yourself.
> 
> Part No    # Reqd  Units   Description                                                                            Price/Unit    Total Price
> 2745             1        Each    Small Boat Windward Sheeting Car, 22 mm                     $575.75         $575.75
> 2740             1        Pair      Single Sheave Track End Controls, 22 mm                        $264.25         $264.25
> 2720.1.5M   1        Each    22 mm X 1.5 m Low-Beam Track                                          $97.60           $97.60
> 446                1       Pair      22 mm Low-Beam Line Sheading End Stop                         $13.20          $13.20
> 2722              1       Pair      22 mm Low Beam Track Trim Caps                                      $17.20           $17.20
> Hardware    15      Each     #10-24UNC X 1.25 316 SS, Flat Head Machine Screws       $0.54             $8.10
> Hardware    15      Each     #10-24UNC Barrel Nuts                                                            $1.40           $21.00
> Rope             20      Feet     5/16 Inch OD X 20 Ft Sta-Set Polyester Yacht Braid            $1.21           $24.20
>                                                                                  Total Not Including Tax, S&H, Or Assembly       $1021.30
> 
> All of a sudden, Stan’s price of $495.00, fully assembled, for a GB 29 Traveler, starts to look pretty attractive!
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
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> 
> From: stan<mailto:stan at generalboats.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] GB Notice re the latest traveler system
> 
> 
> *Please note.  Re the new Rhodes traveler, which is a holistic designed
> operational system that functions in conjunction with the new outhaul
> car configuration and the proprietary cut IMF mainsail:**
> **
> **1.    Per attachment:  No knots.  No Cleats.  One simple continuous
> control line whose force needed to move it, is controllable with one
> simple adjustment.**
> **
> **2.    That the **_part number_**on the ROC parts site
> <www.rhodes22parts.com<http://www.rhodes22parts.com>>  is  GB29  (there is no number or letter after
> the 'GB'.**
> **
> **If you purchased this version traveler from General Boats and have any
> questions, please contact me direct at <stan at generalboats.com>**  If you
> purchased your boat from another source that has had its traveler system
> "improved" by a prior owner, we are not in a position to be of help. If
> you have found another system, (i.e. Harken) that is*/less costly/*for
> its total needed parts and */simpler to install /and/handle/*, we would
> very much appreciate its part number and hearing your take on what makes
> it the better way to go, with an eye to using it with new and recycled
> Rhodes in place of our current system.
> **
> **thanks,
> 
> stan
> 
> ***
>> On 3/29/21 9:10 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA wrote:
>> Rick,
>> 
>> It’s hard to tell for sure from this photo.  But, I don’t think this is a GBI 29 Traveler.  My control lines don’t have any knots in them.  Do you have a close up picture of the traveler car?
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Roger,
>>> 
>>> Here's some of it.  You can see a cleat and the knot of the control line
>>> ends tied together.
>>> [image: ATT00010.jpg]
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Lange
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 9:00 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Rick,
>>>> 
>>>> In all the dozens of posts in this thread, someone said they were busting
>>>> their knuckles on their traveler.  I don’t remember who.  I remember asking
>>>> what they were hitting their knuckles on.  I don’t think I ever got a
>>>> response.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you post a picture of your traveler?  From your last post, it sounds
>>>> like you don’t have a GBI 29 Traveler.  Rather, you have a 2nd generation
>>>> traveler modified with cam cleats replacing the OEM standard jam cleats.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> 
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>>>> Windows 10
>>>> 
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