[Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken

Fri Jul 2 12:32:01 EDT 2021

Tom,

Thank you for the generous offer to host the Rhodes22.org site.

In 2016, when I assumed the hosting responsibility for Rhodes22.org & the GNU Mailman email list, I wanted to make sure that we would not need to move from a "borrowed" or "loaned" server again. Each time a member who provided hosting moved on, changed jobs, or retired, we had to scramble for a new home. I also wanted to be sure that we would not lose our content due to a hardware failure or management change (look at our history or just nabble, again).

I chose AWS, a subsidiary of Amazon, to provide the environment, virtually. The hardware is pretty much bullet proof and I do not think that AWS is going anywhere as long as the bill is paid. A big thanks to those who have donated to the cause.

I also wanted the transition to a new hosting member as simple as possible. AWS is a stable and transferrable platform, making it easy for a new hosting member to assume the role. I also have provided a method that manages the transition if I am unable to continue as hosting member. It took quite a bit to construct this safe way to host the rhodes22.org and I do not wish to make changes at this time.

Thanks, again, for the offer.

Mike

s/v Wind Lass ('91)

Nissequogue River, NY

I'd rather be sailing 😊

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom Van Heule
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:35 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken

Mike, et all,

I have a web server, our own hardware, in a  Chicago data center.

If you'd need I can , and happy to, do all the hosting. (I do not run an email server) I much prefer a micro service design, but that's a huge project to retain all the history....

Hope you have a safe and fun weekend.

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 5:08 PM Michael D. Weisner < <mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com> mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:

> It seems that nabble is converting to a simple forum and dropping the 

> email posting ability. In the process, they are losing functionality 

> and now content!

> 

> This is a serious change for them and many of their list clients (like 

> us) are having significant issues such as:

>      1. "Contents Deleted" - entire lists are disappearing!

>            <http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-td7609604.html> http://support.nabble.com/CONTENTS-DELETED-td7609604.html

>      2. Mailing Lists will be update to regular forums ...

> 

>  <http://support.nabble.com/Mailing-Lists-will-be-updated-to-regular-for> http://support.nabble.com/Mailing-Lists-will-be-updated-to-regular-for

> ums-next-week-td7609458.html#a7609600

> 

> From what I can see on the nabble support site, no one is really sure 

> what is happening. I am so happy that the Rhodes22.org list has been 

> independently maintained. We have only lost items that were not cross 

> posted from nabble such as the "old.nabble.com" images. Many of the 

> major nabble lists are in big trouble since they totally rely on 

> nabble and have no other alternative.

> 

> After some prodding from me (I saw the value of nabble but was afraid 

> to trust their leadership with our content again), Peter Nyberg 

> developed a website structure that permits a web based forum for 

> posting to our list. I am in the process of looking to port the 

> capability to our server. It provides all of the convenience of a web 

> based posting forum like nabble while maintaining our security and independence.

> 

> Please be patient as we evolve. We've come a long way in the last 6 to 

> 12 months, much of it the result of Peter's efforts and abilities. 

> Please raise a glass of your favorite libation to Peter Nyberg, virtually.

> 

> Have a safe and happy 4th!

> 

> Let's go sailing!

> 

> Mike

> s/v Wind Lass ('91)

> Website Admin

> Nissequogue River, NY

> I’d rather be sailing :~)

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rhodes22-list < <mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 

> Peter Nyberg

> Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 5:18 PM

> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List < <mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>

> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The Link to Nabble IS broken

> 

> If you don’t use Rhodes 22 forum on Nabble, you can ignore this message.

> 

> In checking recent activity both on the email list, and on the Nabble 

> forum, it has become clear that the connection between the two has broken.

> Posts to the email list are not appearing on Nabble, and messages 

> created in the Nabble forum are not being posted to the list.

> 

> I haven’t been a user of Nabble myself, but clearly some people 

> preferred the web interface Nabble provided over using emails to communicate with the

> list.   I hope we won’t lose the participation of those members.

> 

> Nabble is totally outside of our control, and I think that it’s not 

> being supported anymore, so a fix is probably unlikely.

> 

> I posted a message on the Nabble forum to warn people about this situation.

> 

> For all those using email to interact with the list, nothing has changed.

> 

> —Peter=

> 

> 

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