[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Continental Sails

Jesse Shumaker jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com
Tue Mar 2 10:34:59 EST 2021


That's great to hear Ric.  It sounds like a lot of fun!  The guys who just
keep on sailing give us something to aspire to.  The biggest boats for
racing on our small lake are 22'.  We have a match racing league on Santana
20s with a 3 person crew.  I'll be the bow man for some experienced racers
on their Capri 22' this year.  I don't have much spinnaker experience and
figured this is a great opportunity to learn from experienced racers.
Fortunately, I get the opportunity to sail on a variety of boats
which keeps things interesting.  I find that racing is a good way to
improve sailing skills and I have a lot to learn.  Good luck with your
racing this season!

Jesse

On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:24 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> Amazing right? Racing a Snipe is not for old men, so your local hero, like
> mine,  is an anomaly.
> My Captain, George Martin, bought his C&C in 1972 and started racing right
> away.
> He upgraded the keel and rig in ’89, a year before I found my way onto the
> boat.
> George martin was the Senior Master Lazer Champ about 10 years ago - he
> beat Rodney Johnstone (the same age) to do it, and also raced JY 15s very
> successfully.
> He stopped polishing the bottom of ‘Osprey’ for Wednesday night racing a
> couple of years ago because he couldn’t haul himself out of the water and
> into the dingy anymore and the scuba gear got to be too much. He gets
> younger crew to do it now, but he’s there with them every minute.
> We sail with 8, &  10 if its windy - - -  the youngest crew is 51.
> We have had quite a run and the new main sail George just ordered means
> he’s still got his mojo for the  2021 season.
>
> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> www.stottarchitecture.com
> Office  631-283-1777
> Cell            516-965-3164
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Jesse Shumaker <
> jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ric, your C&C 35 captain reminds me of a guy at our local sailing club.
> > George will be 85 this year and still regularly wins races on a
> > Snipe, which is a 14' racing dinghy which makes for athletic sailing.  He
> > was commodore at our sailing club for over 20 years and is a bit of a
> hero
> > to the local sailors.  I picked up a Snipe for next to nothing last year
> > since we have a fleet that we're trying to rebuild and it is fun one
> design
> > racing.  My wife took one look at the Snipe and said "That's your boat,
> > I'll never go on that tippy thing.  I'll stick with the Rhodes and your
> > friends can crew on the Snipe."
> >
> > Jesse Shumaker
> > S/V Zephyr
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 2:59 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Stan et al
> >> This is a difficult subject but since you brought it up.
> >> Rhodies -
> >> If you plan to use your boat as the coffin - it will not work!
> >> I shouldn’t have to remind you that the Rhodes  22 does not sink.
> >> I know Stan’s sense of humor is talking and so is mine.
> >> But we have joked about how to send off our race captain on the C&C 35
> >> I’ve been sailing on for 30 years.
> >> He’s 85, bought his boat new and is still racing, but hey, ya never
> know.
> >>
> >> Far off-shore and out-of-sight, a thru-hull fitting comes loose - - -
> >> The C&C disappears, the Rhodes becomes part of the Plastic waste island
> >> floating forever mid ocean.
> >> Long live Stan and the Rhodes 22 - may we float forever.
> >> Ric
> >> sv Dadventure
> >> Hampton Bays, NY
> >>
> >> Richard Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> >> www.stottarchitecture.com
> >> Office  631-283-1777
> >> Cell            516-965-3164
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 3:32 PM, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It is a good thing one of us has a good memory.  No motor and we made
> it
> >> all the way to the dead end of that long narrow canal?  If I knew the
> boats
> >> were that good I would have kept them all.  What did you say your name
> was.
> >>>
> >>> Roger, this guy knows more about the boat than I do.  Ask Him. He has
> >> owned two; I never could afford one.  But lately been considering it
> since
> >> they now come with a great surprise benefit: Free burial at sea for a
> neat
> >> net savings.
> >>>
> >>> stan
> >>>
> >>> Mike, thanks for those wonderful memories.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3/1/21 2:45 PM, Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> >>>> I bought my first Rhodes 22, an RC - that's what they were called back
> >> then (1980) from Stan in Rose's kitchen, after our test sail. I
> attached 2
> >> pdf files of the sales materials distributed to potential buyers in
> 1980 at
> >> shows, including the price list and a narrative on the Rhodes
> Continental.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sheryl and I loved the RC, first seen at the Stamford in the Water
> Boat
> >> Show in the autumn of 1980. Stan had promised a test sail when I gave
> him
> >> the $25 REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT. Unfortunately, he was too busy taking
> orders at
> >> the show so we met him one very cold late October day at the house in
> >> Amityville. The wind was howling at a good 15-20 knots and we had a
> heck of
> >> a sail. Stan just sat on the cockpit seat with his back up against the
> >> cabin bulkhead facing the stern. He zipped his parka up and smiled as I
> >> sailed her hard. He didn't care what I tried because he had faith in the
> >> design. We came about and even jibed with all the cloth flying (150
> Genoa).
> >> I asked him if we needed to reef the main (roller reefing) and he just
> >> shrugged, so we didn't. With a crew of 4 twenty somethings and the
> master,
> >> we were invincible. When we finally go back to the canal behind the
> house,
> >> Stan took the helm, showing me how to propel the RC with just the
> rudder.
> >> It was then that I realized, we didn't have an engine on the mount. Who
> >> needed a stinking motor?
> >>>>
> >>>> Stan wanted us to be among the first to try out his IMF design but he
> >> was unable to give us a firm delivery date so we took delivery of the
> RC in
> >> March 1981. Stan set it up with us and we sailed for about an hour. He
> only
> >> told me how to retrieve her, no practice attempt. I dropped him at our
> dock
> >> and we went out for more sailing. The two of us were finally able to
> get on
> >> the trailer and dropped the mast in the dark. What a day! What a boat!
> >>>>
> >>>> In those days, we sailed from March 1st through Thanksgiving, as
> >> trailer sailors! Now, we are on a mooring and I am happy to sail May
> 15th
> >> to October 15, but, we do sail a '91 Rhodes 22 w/IMF and lots of
> creature
> >> comforts. One thing hasn’t changed: I still love to sail my Rhodes 22
> fully
> >> rigged in lots of wind. But, I must confess, I do furl the main and the
> >> huge Genoa well before we hit 15-20 kts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> >>>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>>> I’d rather be sailing :~)
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Roger Pihlaja Home
> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:51 PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Continental Sails
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe,
> >>>>
> >>>> It is my understanding that Stan changed the name from Rhodes
> >> Continental 22 to Rhodes 22 around the time he took over production of
> the
> >> boat.  Other than the in house production line, I think all the hull
> lines
> >> and sail plan were unchanged.  The hull molds were literally the same.
> The
> >> Rhodes Continental 22 was not offered with the inner mast furling
> >> mainsail.  That came later.  Stan, if I’ve gotten something wrong here,
> >> please jump into this discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Joe Dempsey <joedempsey at hughes.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then I'm confused. It is my understanding that the Continental was
> >>>>> only built for a few years. My question, therefore is what is the
> >>>>> difference in sail plan from a Continental and any other Rhodes 22?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----
> >>>>> Joe Dempsey
> >>>>> s/v Respite
> >>>>> Rhodes 22 1989/2005
> >>>>> Deltaville,VA
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Sent from: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/
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