[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten

Fri Jan 7 15:58:01 EST 2022

Brian,

The molds didn't determine if the forward opening ports were installed. In 1980 when I contracted with Stan for delivery of my '81 Rhodes 22, the ports were an option to provide airflow through the cabin. He laid a template over the deck, cut the holes, and set the ports. By the way, the ports were sealed to the deck with clear GE Silicone, which always failed to adhere to the fiberglass over time. The material was designed to be compressed as a gasket, not as filler. The leaks at the ports were complicated by the tendency to hold water when closed which always found its way past the internal screen/seal, no matter the age of the screen or how much the closed port was tightened. Snaps and canvas covers fixed the issue on my 1991 Rhodes.

Stan used two 1-1/2" pieces of 1/2" hose to hold the centerboard pivot in position. I have not seen copper pipes.

The mainsheet arrangement on the St. Maarten craft seems very much like the one that I had on my 1981 Rhodes. Instead of a traveler, the mainsheet was attached to a sheave on a line between the two backstays (see attached images). My 1991 R22 has the newer traveler which is a vast improvement.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY
I’d rather be sailing :~)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Brian Ferguson
Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 3:35 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten

Rob,
Snaps would be great and will probably be the plan going forward. Right now there are two wood "caps" where the PO routed a channel that lined up with the port. I will send a picture later.  Stan told me my hull was contracted
so I wasn't sure if all molds were the same for '76.   My mainsheet
traveler was a frankenstein setup of aluminum angles and such. I posted the setup a year or two ago to Nabble. I'm thinking I will buy the current setup when I replace the rear stays. I'm in the middle of the refit. I just finished securing the sixty bolts holding the CB cover after replacing the line and blocks underneath.  No one should ever do that more than once. Did anyone else ever have two removable copper pipes centering their CB?
Brian

On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 3:24 PM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Brain,
> I believe Stan added the front ports to the design at one time so they 
> are probably original.  My 76 had them.  Early boats did not.  They 
> have always collected water.  Does yours have snaps around them?  
> There used to be some covers that attached using snaps that were 
> supposed to keep the water off of them. - Rob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of 
> Brian Ferguson
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 1:03 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten
>
> My 76 has the higher thru hull that Rob described as well as the two 
> forward-facing opening ports. They must have been added though because 
> the design collects water.  Can someone enlighten me about the 
> mainsheet arrangement? It looks nearly vertical and forward of the transom?
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 9:24 AM Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>
> > Interesting.  My '76 had the single through hull and it was higher 
> > up on the hull. The bilge pumped T'ed into the sink drain. - Rob 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf 
> > of Graham Stewart <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 7:16 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten
> >
> > My 76 has the same through hulls on the side as the one in the photo.
> > One is for the sink and the other is for the bilge pump. My boat 
> > does not have the forward facing ports on the cabin but these could 
> > have been added by the owner.
> >
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
> > Kingston Ontario
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> > Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 10:20 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten
> >
> > What an interesting find!  Thanks for sharing.  I agree with Roger's 
> > assessment.  It's looks similar to the 1976 Continental I originally had.
> > The two through hulls are different though, I've never seen a boat 
> > with two.
> > They are also lower to the waterline than my '76.
> >
> > Rob
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf 
> > of ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 6:33 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > It's too bad you couldn't get a hull number off the transom.  
> > Although the authorities could get an owner's name & address by 
> > running the W/C registration number thru their data base, unless you 
> > have some juice in the St. Maarten police dept., there's not much 
> > info there.  It's interesting there is no expiration year tab stuck 
> > to the hull following the W/C registration number.  Maybe they don't 
> > do that in St. Maarten.  But, then, how do they collect their watercraft use taxes?
> >
> > It's obviously a standard mainsail rig, plus someone has added a 
> > Bimini top and upgraded the roller furler.  It also looks like there 
> > is some sort of folded down dodger on the cabin roof.  That would 
> > make a
> lot of sense for
> > ocean sailing.   As a Great Lakes sailor, I'd love to see more details on
> > that dodger!  It's got the old style cable style mainsail traveler.
> > I'm guessing this is a fairly early Rhodes Continental - mid to late
> 1970's.
> >
> > I bet there is an interesting story behind how that boat came to be 
> > in
> St.
> > Maarten.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from
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> > From: Michael D. Weisner<mailto:mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2022 5:09 PM
> > To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 in St. Maarten
> >
> > My wife and I were kayaking in St. Maarten on December 16, 2021 
> > while on a shore excursion from a Royal Caribbean cruise. We 
> > couldn't believe that our guide took us right past a nicely 
> > maintained Rhodes 22, registration SX2871PC. We stopped for pictures 
> > (attached). We did not have time to circle the Rhodes to see if 
> > there was a name on the transom.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know who she belongs to?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> >
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> > I'd rather be sailing :~)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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