From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 12:52:57 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 12:52:57 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
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I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.  I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.  I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.  Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.  

I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.  It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.  Can you share what price you paid?  

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM
To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...

I went straight through the Barbados loft.  A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.  They already have the dimensions for the sails.  You can email Jo, the sales manager.  You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.  They will give you a discount during the winter months.
https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/


Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...

Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.
Scott A

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...
> 
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects
> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3
> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7
> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714
> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%
> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> 
>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < 
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure 
>> about how to proceed.  Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order 
>> manufacturer?  Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.
>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony 
>> Jonaitis
>> 



From sea20 at verizon.net  Fri Sep  2 13:37:52 2022
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 13:37:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
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That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.  I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.  I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.  Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.  
> 
> I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.  It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.  Can you share what price you paid?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM
> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
> 
> I went straight through the Barbados loft.  A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.  They already have the dimensions for the sails.  You can email Jo, the sales manager.  You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.  They will give you a discount during the winter months.
> https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/
> 
> 
> Rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
> 
> Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.
> Scott A
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...
>> 
>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects
>> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3
>> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7
>> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714
>> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%
>> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < 
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure 
>>> about how to proceed.  Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order 
>>> manufacturer?  Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.
>>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony 
>>> Jonaitis
>>> 
> 
> 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Fri Sep  2 13:48:39 2022
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 13:48:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
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I never ordered new sails for my ?84 Rhodes 22, but I?ve ordered plenty of sails for the C&C 35 I?ve been racing for 32 years. 
You are probably not racing the R 22, but I can tell you that the sails delivered from the Doyle loft were not always what were ordered and had to be returned. I can?t imagine how difficult that would have been without using a local agent. 
We have been using the same guy the whole time so he knows the boat and has templates from past orders and they still screw it up once in awhile. 
I was order from the local loft.
My 2?
Ric 
Dadventure 
HBNY 

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:37 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.  I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.  I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.  Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.  
>> 
>> I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.  It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.  Can you share what price you paid?  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM
>> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
>> 
>> I went straight through the Barbados loft.  A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.  They already have the dimensions for the sails.  You can email Jo, the sales manager.  You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.  They will give you a discount during the winter months.
>> https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/
>> 
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
>> 
>> Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.
>> Scott A
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...
>>> 
>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects
>>> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3
>>> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7
>>> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714
>>> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
>>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%
>>> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < 
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure 
>>>> about how to proceed.  Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order 
>>>> manufacturer?  Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.
>>>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony 
>>>> Jonaitis
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


From rnelson204 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 13:55:38 2022
From: rnelson204 at gmail.com (Rodney Brown)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 11:55:38 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
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I?ve heard good things about Precision Sails, several people at our club have given them high marks. 

A gentleman on the FB Rhodes group orders a radial cut main from Potomac Sail Makers and is very pleased with it. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2022, at 11:48, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I never ordered new sails for my ?84 Rhodes 22, but I?ve ordered plenty of sails for the C&C 35 I?ve been racing for 32 years. 
> You are probably not racing the R 22, but I can tell you that the sails delivered from the Doyle loft were not always what were ordered and had to be returned. I can?t imagine how difficult that would have been without using a local agent. 
> We have been using the same guy the whole time so he knows the boat and has templates from past orders and they still screw it up once in awhile. 
> I was order from the local loft.
> My 2?
> Ric 
> Dadventure 
> HBNY 
> 
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 2, 2022, at 1:37 PM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.  I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.  I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.  Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.  
>>> 
>>> I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.  It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.  Can you share what price you paid?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM
>>> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
>>> 
>>> I went straight through the Barbados loft.  A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.  They already have the dimensions for the sails.  You can email Jo, the sales manager.  You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.  They will give you a discount during the winter months.
>>> https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
>>> 
>>> Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.
>>> Scott A
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...
>>>> 
>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>>> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects
>>>> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3
>>>> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7
>>>> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714
>>>> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
>>>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%
>>>> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < 
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure 
>>>>> about how to proceed.  Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order 
>>>>> manufacturer?  Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.
>>>>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony 
>>>>> Jonaitis
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 14:18:14 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 14:18:14 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <493D4E9B-2307-443E-AB74-3CED767673B1@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <631248eb.c80a0220.99146.5587@mx.google.com>

How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 9/2/22  1:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online... That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:> > ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.? I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.? I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.? Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.? > > I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.? It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.? Can you share what price you paid?? > > Thanks,> > Mike> > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...> > I went straight through the Barbados loft.? A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.? They already have the dimensions for the sails.? You can email Jo, the sales manager.? You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.? They will give you a discount during the winter months.> https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/> > > Rob> > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...> > Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.> Scott A> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:>> >> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...>> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.>> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects>> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3>> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7>> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714>> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%>> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0>> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:>>> >>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure >>> about how to proceed.? Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order >>> manufacturer?? Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.>>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony >>> Jonaitis>>> > > 

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Sep  2 15:31:00 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:31:00 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
Message-ID: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>

I had a similar experience when I tried to contact several Doyle lofts that were relatively close to me.  I finally got a quick response when I reached out to the Salem, MA loft.  My contact at the time was Chris Howes.  The website shows that he is still there.  Email is chowes at doylesails.com.

I ordered a 130% genoa and a UPS.  I never specifically asked, but my impression was they were made in Salem.  The labels do not say 'Barbados' on them.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2022-09-02, at 14:18:14 EDT, jpd9668 wrote:
>
> How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I 
> ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an 
> AT&amp;T 5G smartphone 
> 


From retro53 at msn.com  Fri Sep  2 19:45:01 2022
From: retro53 at msn.com (John Keyser)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 23:45:01 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
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References: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>
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In 2020, I ordered a furling headsail (115) on-line from Precision Sails in Sidney, BC. Very positive experience! They sent me forms to fill out with full and complete instructions regarding the measurements needed.  A designer was assigned to me and worked with me throughout the process. The sail was delivered from Asia, and it was perfect.  I did order the sail in October for a Spring delivery and there was a nice discount.

John Keyser
1980 R-22
"Deci-Belle"
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 3:31 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...

I had a similar experience when I tried to contact several Doyle lofts that were relatively close to me.  I finally got a quick response when I reached out to the Salem, MA loft.  My contact at the time was Chris Howes.  The website shows that he is still there.  Email is chowes at doylesails.com.

I ordered a 130% genoa and a UPS.  I never specifically asked, but my impression was they were made in Salem.  The labels do not say 'Barbados' on them.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2022-09-02, at 14:18:14 EDT, jpd9668 wrote:
>
> How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I
> ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an
> AT&amp;T 5G smartphone
>


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  2 22:05:52 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 22:05:52 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <631248eb.c80a0220.99146.5587@mx.google.com>
References: <631248eb.c80a0220.99146.5587@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4C4E1F55-488C-45A3-B509-A6505051C7E1@gmail.com>

Where are you located?  The Doyle agent I spoke to is in Florida.  He was very responsive.  I wonder if the shipping is cheaper if you order from a stateside agent. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2022, at 2:18 PM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: 9/2/22 1:38 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
> 
> That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.  I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.  I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.  Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.  
> > 
> > I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.  It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.  Can you share what price you paid?  
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM
> > To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
> > 
> > I went straight through the Barbados loft.  A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.  They already have the dimensions for the sails.  You can email Jo, the sales manager.  You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.  They will give you a discount during the winter months.
> > https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/
> > 
> > 
> > Rob
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
> > 
> > Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.
> > Scott A
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...
> >> 
> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects
> >> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3
> >> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7
> >> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714
> >> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ
> >> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%
> >> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >> 
> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < 
> >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure 
> >>> about how to proceed.  Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order 
> >>> manufacturer?  Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.
> >>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony 
> >>> Jonaitis
> >>> 
> > 
> > 
> 

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 10:26:40 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 10:26:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <63136447.050a0220.c3b04.25f3@mx.google.com>

Thanks Peter!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> Date: 9/2/22  3:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online... I had a similar experience when I tried to contact several Doyle lofts that were relatively close to me.? I finally got a quick response when I reached out to the Salem, MA loft.? My contact at the time was Chris Howes.? The website shows that he is still there.? Email is chowes at doylesails.com.I ordered a 130% genoa and a UPS.? I never specifically asked, but my impression was they were made in Salem.? The labels do not say 'Barbados' on them.Peter NybergCoventry, CTs/v Silverheels (1988/2016)> On 2022-09-02, at 14:18:14 EDT, jpd9668 wrote:>> How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I > ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an > AT&amp;T 5G smartphone > 

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 12:32:32 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 12:32:32 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <4C4E1F55-488C-45A3-B509-A6505051C7E1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <631381a8.050a0220.b4bac.ba2e@mx.google.com>

Deltaville, VA lower Chesapeake? I get the Doyle newsletter telling all about their wonderful racing stuff? great sails, new reps and when I reply with inquiries: nothing.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> Date: 9/2/22  10:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> Cc: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>, The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online... Where are you located? ?The Doyle agent I spoke to is in Florida. ?He was very responsive. ?I wonder if the shipping is cheaper if you order from a stateside agent.?Michael McKay(630) 209-2054 (m)Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 2, 2022, at 2:18 PM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:?How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but when I ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 9/2/22  1:38 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online... That sounds about what I paid but the shipping costs were expensive.Sent from my iPhone> On Sep 2, 2022, at 12:53 PM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:> > ?I'm planning on ordering a new mainsail also.? I got directed to a Doyle agent in St. Petersburg.? I tend to believe that all the R22 sails are made in Barbados regardless of which Doyle shop you order from.? Ordering from a US-based agent would avoid the import paperwork.? > > I got a quote of $1295 this past spring.? It'll probably be higher now due to inflation.? Can you share what price you paid?? > > Thanks,> > Mike> > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 11:31 AM> To: Scott Andrews <sea20 at verizon.net>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...> > I went straight through the Barbados loft.? A little extra paperwork since you have to do import paperwork.? They already have the dimensions for the sails.? You can email Jo, the sales manager.? You might want to wait on ordering them until after the sailing season has past.? They will give you a discount during the winter months.> https://www.doylesails.com/loft-barbados/> > > Rob> > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 6:16 PM> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...> > Doyle sail in Oriental N Carolina gave me great service but it takes a while. They come from Barbados.> Scott A> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On May 31, 2022, at 12:57 PM, Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote:>> >> ?A REAL sailor would just make his own...>> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.>> sailrite.com%2FHow-To-Projects-Guides%2FDIY-Projects%2FMarine-Projects>> %2FMarine-Project%2FSail-Making%3Forder%3Dcustitem_popularity%26type%3>> DDIY-Projects&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7C12e6cd28e88e4c66ebd7>> 08da435318f2%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C637896321714>> 648889%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJ>> BTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=V3RmRbP9UYZ%2FQ%>> 2BoEdmSctr%2Fvu9UKrY1eT9VX2bByUh0%3D&amp;reserved=0>> >>> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 12:53 PM Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:>>> >>> Buying a new set of sails for our new 1993 Rhodes 22...and are unsure >>> about how to proceed.? Can anyone suggest a reliable mail-order >>> manufacturer?? Or does this ideally have to be done by a local company.>>> HELP? All suggestion/ridicule/information/sarcasm is welcome...Tony >>> Jonaitis>>> > > 

From snstaum at gmail.com  Sat Sep  3 13:07:40 2022
From: snstaum at gmail.com (Stephen Staum)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 13:07:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <CAOo_Fjf_-o594aTR97N_-OBycfZkStTXL+nM6ohOXmq70v10Tw@mail.gmail.com>

I have gotten 2 genoas & a main sail from Doyle in East Greenwich, RI. They
were definitely made on site. He even added a luff pad to my Genoa while I
waited!  The last sail was probably 4 or 5 years ago. The IMF Main cost
$600 & the 130 Genoa was $1,300. Service was excellent. They even repaired
a tear in the Genoa early in its 2nd season at no charge!  The tear was not
their fault but from abrasion. I am very pleased with their quality &
service.

Stephen Staum
s/v Pinafore
Needham, MA

On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 3:31 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> I had a similar experience when I tried to contact several Doyle lofts
> that were relatively close to me.  I finally got a quick response when I
> reached out to the Salem, MA loft.  My contact at the time was Chris
> Howes.  The website shows that he is still there.  Email is
> chowes at doylesails.com.
>
> I ordered a 130% genoa and a UPS.  I never specifically asked, but my
> impression was they were made in Salem.  The labels do not say 'Barbados'
> on them.
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On 2022-09-02, at 14:18:14 EDT, jpd9668 wrote:
> >
> > How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but
> when I
> > ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G,
> an
> > AT&amp;T 5G smartphone
> >
>
> --
Thanks and Stay Well,
Stephen Staum
Pariser Industries, Inc.

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 12:17:26 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 12:17:26 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR03MB5245AB852387CFCE56B78371BD7A9@MN2PR03MB5245.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <E1oUCNY-007DkQ-HU@s152.servername.online>
 <MN2PR03MB5245AB852387CFCE56B78371BD7A9@MN2PR03MB5245.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <1e5901d8c20c$27de3620$779aa260$@gmail.com>

For what it's worth, I ordered both a mainsail and genoa from Precision
Sails for my previous boat, a San Juan 21.  In both cases the sails were not
cut correctly and had to be replaced.  I will say that Precision took full
responsibility for the errors and sent me new sails without any further
problems.  Their prices are very competitive, especially around
Thanksgiving.


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of John
Keyser
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 7:45 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...

In 2020, I ordered a furling headsail (115) on-line from Precision Sails in
Sidney, BC. Very positive experience! They sent me forms to fill out with
full and complete instructions regarding the measurements needed.  A
designer was assigned to me and worked with me throughout the process. The
sail was delivered from Asia, and it was perfect.  I did order the sail in
October for a Spring delivery and there was a nice discount.

John Keyser
1980 R-22
"Deci-Belle"
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Peter
Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2022 3:31 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Buying sails online...

I had a similar experience when I tried to contact several Doyle lofts that
were relatively close to me.  I finally got a quick response when I reached
out to the Salem, MA loft.  My contact at the time was Chris Howes.  The
website shows that he is still there.  Email is chowes at doylesails.com.

I ordered a 130% genoa and a UPS.  I never specifically asked, but my
impression was they were made in Salem.  The labels do not say 'Barbados' on
them.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2022-09-02, at 14:18:14 EDT, jpd9668 wrote:
>
> How did you order from Doyle? I get bombarded with emails from them but
when I
> ask for a quote, NO REPLY...CRICKETS!Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G,
an
> AT&amp;T 5G smartphone
>



From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Tue Sep  6 22:27:54 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2022 22:27:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] The End of a Rhodes in the Med
Message-ID: <CADNTwiXVPEzDwXgB6ndH2Yvpn14YmcCATJsrWcW31O2=ooW3Gg@mail.gmail.com>

Weeks 11-13 to "A Rhodes in the Med"  is in the link below.  The boat is
gone.  But it won't be my last voyage on a Rhodes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13767ljAUyN0cIpAQzkEd4VlDpYdz3lzB/view?usp=sharing


The whole 2021 voyage of 1300 nm from Corfu to Turkey  is in a single 113
page document at the link below if you wish to download it.  It is a big
document even as a PDF .  Or you could just wait for the movie to come out.
Grin.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-psg6jz7_P4cYeFYTvisSJGWJwTJ3co/view?usp=sharing

Chris Geankoplis
Enosis/Xenos

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 15:22:18 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 15:22:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of Rhodes in the Med PROBLEM
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWaKDonhx-w-ck9GempM9H0JF7C2v0vePpuORRnRcCY4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Mary Lou discovered that for whatever reason the links in the  PDF's don't
work!  Rats.  So I'll see what I can do as some of the links are central to
several of the pages and the story over all.

Chris G.
Enosis

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Sep  7 22:09:51 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 22:09:51 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of Rhodes in the Med PROBLEM
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiWaKDonhx-w-ck9GempM9H0JF7C2v0vePpuORRnRcCY4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWaKDonhx-w-ck9GempM9H0JF7C2v0vePpuORRnRcCY4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVYppdcvxNy5WjHs705_OYQskOQZ-Ed4Vnrv52g2r+F4w@mail.gmail.com>

So I was able to laboriously fix it, maybe not the most efficient but it
worked.  I had to convert the word document into "pages format" then
convert that into a PDF which then keeps the embedded links functioning.
So below is the functioning link for weeks 11-13.  The link for the entire
2021 sailing season still needs to be fixed.  I'll have it available in a
few days.

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F12i83YDVRNBnBDoNIZeybgKZoqWsmpzr1%2Fview%3Fusp%3DsharingComplete%26fbclid%3DIwAR2QFaa5UsalicWmWiAGJ2PyEk5av6jKuIWeZbe6p-KdGmRnzs4v15lyfXQ&h=AT0aviPrWyO-nh6RCCODYpHZ-kBSNsUUws5z7mrkhVVRepqzhKepaEM8JebPl1_0lQy1NojayhnyQ8yMfzAAApuMNRrAy9pbDONGQ0hiVK3OKxa9u3cgdhukjr2obgCJ25HMW4ZvzF3wGbz3KCCmP80&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT23GrMXaOaNje27F612pP6HJYSL6ftN9MtxtBjo_FwZiN7En0RkBvGasKC7f-ntV9DcOJVXgXtucOEg4rg3DjzG57fP1tC4EFgsftT3LohjIbgLO4FbaVa6E8z8OtAr5pgxw54_lFfR6usQ5GBCzwsHHmGR729eA3_2tPA5YD4TgcsHYQO8OQComplete

Dang, that is a long link!
Chris G
Enosis

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:22 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Mary Lou discovered that for whatever reason the links in the  PDF's don't
> work!  Rats.  So I'll see what I can do as some of the links are central to
> several of the pages and the story over all.
>
> Chris G.
> Enosis
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 07:01:42 2022
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 07:01:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
Message-ID: <CAM0HAm=EZ8Qqr0d9zfGhxN+VsL8fE9VbPKOMZ+XaWvVnYzBJRw@mail.gmail.com>

I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees.
The input from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the
two inboard leads?
Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From mtroy at atlanticbb.net  Thu Sep  8 10:32:55 2022
From: mtroy at atlanticbb.net (Mary Lou Troy)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 10:32:55 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAm=EZ8Qqr0d9zfGhxN+VsL8fE9VbPKOMZ+XaWvVnYzBJRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=EZ8Qqr0d9zfGhxN+VsL8fE9VbPKOMZ+XaWvVnYzBJRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6ec4f203-f10a-1a80-3662-e88840066d7d@atlanticbb.net>

HI Jeff,
When we owned our Rhodes, a 1991 with diamondboard centerboard, 160 
genoa and 3 places to run the genoa sheets (outboard, inboard on the 
deck by the cabin and cabintop) we used all three under different 
conditions. It usually was determined by how much of the jib we had out 
which was determined by conditions.

That said most of our sailing was cruising to get somewhere so we often 
sailed the most comfortable angles that got us close to where we we 
going and would then motor the rest of the way when time or our patience 
ran out.

These articles which discuss trim and sheeting angles better than I can.

https://www.sailmagazine.com/racing/headsail-sheeting
https://www.uksailmakers.com/encyclopedia/5-2-genoa-trim
https://www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/six-factors-of-perfect-upwind-headsail-trim

Best,
Mary Lou
ex Rhodes 22
now Rosborough RF-246? (We don't worry about pointing anymore, though we 
do note the angle of the seas for a comfortable ride.)


On 9/8/2022 7:01 AM, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
> I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees.
> The input from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the
> two inboard leads?
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368


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From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 11:28:20 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 11:28:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat for sale in Maryland.
Message-ID: <CAB-twMMzkV6AgARCcW=Y60ZDUSErzQFew4YeXxWaxNfL3Eu8sQ@mail.gmail.com>

There is a Rhodes 22 for sale in Maryland.
The ad says it's a 1978 that was recycled by General Boats in 2014. That
may be a typo because I thought the cut-off for boats that Stan recycles is
mid 1980s?
The guy is asking $5500 for it with an outboard and trailer. I didn't look
at the pics, but it may be a good deal for Someone or for Stan to pick up
and refresh the recycle?
The Craigslist link might get scrubbed from this post. If it does, look on
Craigslist in Annapolis or Baltimore.

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/boa/d/fort-howard-rhodes-22-sail-boat-trailer/7528784392.html

Todd T.

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Sep  8 17:19:36 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2022 14:19:36 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
Message-ID: <E1oWOvw-00CCrQ-Ab@s152.servername.online>

Jeff,

When my 130% headsail is significantly reefed, I will sometimes use the block on the car on the forward track near the cabin side.  It's a bit of a pain to do the switch, and I don't race, so I'm not religious about it.  I've never used the cabin top lead for the headsail.  I'm pretty satisfied if I can to 100 degree tacks and still maintain decent speed.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2022-09-08, at 07:01:42 EDT, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
>
> I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees. The input 
> from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the two inboard 
> leads? 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.<a href="http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net">http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net</a>
> 732-236-1368
> 


From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 21:25:29 2022
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 20:25:29 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of Rhodes in the Med PROBLEM
In-Reply-To: <CADNTwiVYppdcvxNy5WjHs705_OYQskOQZ-Ed4Vnrv52g2r+F4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWaKDonhx-w-ck9GempM9H0JF7C2v0vePpuORRnRcCY4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiVYppdcvxNy5WjHs705_OYQskOQZ-Ed4Vnrv52g2r+F4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc-3fr0M75xQovmxh=mckhc50weyazacmQJuawq-f5gzOZWiw@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, nice finale to an epic trip!  I'm glad you were finally welcomed and
not booked at the police station.  Nice work super imposing the new photo
on the larger scale older photo on page 8.  I also really like the view
looking out from the cave which has symmetry with the boat.  I hope your
shoulders have healed.  It's good to see that Enosis found its way to
another owner that appreciates and uses the boat.  We will miss your new
installments of the Greek travelogue but I'm glad you took the time to
share it with us!

Jesse
S/V Zephyr

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:10 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So I was able to laboriously fix it, maybe not the most efficient but it
> worked.  I had to convert the word document into "pages format" then
> convert that into a PDF which then keeps the embedded links functioning.
> So below is the functioning link for weeks 11-13.  The link for the entire
> 2021 sailing season still needs to be fixed.  I'll have it available in a
> few days.
>
>
> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F12i83YDVRNBnBDoNIZeybgKZoqWsmpzr1%2Fview%3Fusp%3DsharingComplete%26fbclid%3DIwAR2QFaa5UsalicWmWiAGJ2PyEk5av6jKuIWeZbe6p-KdGmRnzs4v15lyfXQ&h=AT0aviPrWyO-nh6RCCODYpHZ-kBSNsUUws5z7mrkhVVRepqzhKepaEM8JebPl1_0lQy1NojayhnyQ8yMfzAAApuMNRrAy9pbDONGQ0hiVK3OKxa9u3cgdhukjr2obgCJ25HMW4ZvzF3wGbz3KCCmP80&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT23GrMXaOaNje27F612pP6HJYSL6ftN9MtxtBjo_FwZiN7En0RkBvGasKC7f-ntV9DcOJVXgXtucOEg4rg3DjzG57fP1tC4EFgsftT3LohjIbgLO4FbaVa6E8z8OtAr5pgxw54_lFfR6usQ5GBCzwsHHmGR729eA3_2tPA5YD4TgcsHYQO8OQComplete
>
> Dang, that is a long link!
> Chris G
> Enosis
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:22 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Mary Lou discovered that for whatever reason the links in the  PDF's
> don't
> > work!  Rats.  So I'll see what I can do as some of the links are central
> to
> > several of the pages and the story over all.
> >
> > Chris G.
> > Enosis
> >
>

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 23:21:40 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 23:21:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <6ec4f203-f10a-1a80-3662-e88840066d7d@atlanticbb.net>
References: <6ec4f203-f10a-1a80-3662-e88840066d7d@atlanticbb.net>
Message-ID: <B203FD1A-25C6-48D0-92B9-08324A2D642C@gmail.com>

These are great articles?Thanks Mary Lou!

Mike McKay
s/v Liber, 2006/2018

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> ?HI Jeff,
> When we owned our Rhodes, a 1991 with diamondboard centerboard, 160 genoa and 3 places to run the genoa sheets (outboard, inboard on the deck by the cabin and cabintop) we used all three under different conditions. It usually was determined by how much of the jib we had out which was determined by conditions.
> 
> That said most of our sailing was cruising to get somewhere so we often sailed the most comfortable angles that got us close to where we we going and would then motor the rest of the way when time or our patience ran out.
> 
> These articles which discuss trim and sheeting angles better than I can.
> 
> https://www.sailmagazine.com/racing/headsail-sheeting
> https://www.uksailmakers.com/encyclopedia/5-2-genoa-trim
> https://www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/six-factors-of-perfect-upwind-headsail-trim
> 
> Best,
> Mary Lou
> ex Rhodes 22
> now Rosborough RF-246  (We don't worry about pointing anymore, though we do note the angle of the seas for a comfortable ride.)
> 
> 
> On 9/8/2022 7:01 AM, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
>> I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees.
>> The input from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the
>> two inboard leads?
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>> 732-236-1368
> 
> 
> -- 
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> www.avast.com

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 23:22:00 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 23:22:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of Rhodes in the Med PROBLEM
In-Reply-To: <CAMc-3fr0M75xQovmxh=mckhc50weyazacmQJuawq-f5gzOZWiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADNTwiWaKDonhx-w-ck9GempM9H0JF7C2v0vePpuORRnRcCY4Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADNTwiVYppdcvxNy5WjHs705_OYQskOQZ-Ed4Vnrv52g2r+F4w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAMc-3fr0M75xQovmxh=mckhc50weyazacmQJuawq-f5gzOZWiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiW_s7hpnDFNOU4ZvHtr+ydU_RcPp2u0-5eOqX=BYPKDXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Jesse!  Yeah it was a really grind on this last year of sailing.
Uh, the writing, not the sailing.  I think the PDF for the whole season
(once I get the embedded links fixed) runs 113 pages.  Might be easier to
just wait for the movie to come out, or Cliff Notes.  It makes me smile
when people enjoy the trip with me.  Now I have to think up what I am going
to do next summer.

Chris G
Enosis/Xenos
well actually it is really only Xenos, the name of my son's and mine Kansas
Rhodes.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 9:25 PM Jesse Shumaker <
jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, nice finale to an epic trip!  I'm glad you were finally welcomed and
> not booked at the police station.  Nice work super imposing the new photo
> on the larger scale older photo on page 8.  I also really like the view
> looking out from the cave which has symmetry with the boat.  I hope your
> shoulders have healed.  It's good to see that Enosis found its way to
> another owner that appreciates and uses the boat.  We will miss your new
> installments of the Greek travelogue but I'm glad you took the time to
> share it with us!
>
> Jesse
> S/V Zephyr
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:10 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > So I was able to laboriously fix it, maybe not the most efficient but it
> > worked.  I had to convert the word document into "pages format" then
> > convert that into a PDF which then keeps the embedded links functioning.
> > So below is the functioning link for weeks 11-13.  The link for the
> entire
> > 2021 sailing season still needs to be fixed.  I'll have it available in a
> > few days.
> >
> >
> >
> https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F12i83YDVRNBnBDoNIZeybgKZoqWsmpzr1%2Fview%3Fusp%3DsharingComplete%26fbclid%3DIwAR2QFaa5UsalicWmWiAGJ2PyEk5av6jKuIWeZbe6p-KdGmRnzs4v15lyfXQ&h=AT0aviPrWyO-nh6RCCODYpHZ-kBSNsUUws5z7mrkhVVRepqzhKepaEM8JebPl1_0lQy1NojayhnyQ8yMfzAAApuMNRrAy9pbDONGQ0hiVK3OKxa9u3cgdhukjr2obgCJ25HMW4ZvzF3wGbz3KCCmP80&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT23GrMXaOaNje27F612pP6HJYSL6ftN9MtxtBjo_FwZiN7En0RkBvGasKC7f-ntV9DcOJVXgXtucOEg4rg3DjzG57fP1tC4EFgsftT3LohjIbgLO4FbaVa6E8z8OtAr5pgxw54_lFfR6usQ5GBCzwsHHmGR729eA3_2tPA5YD4TgcsHYQO8OQComplete
> >
> > Dang, that is a long link!
> > Chris G
> > Enosis
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 3:22 PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mary Lou discovered that for whatever reason the links in the  PDF's
> > don't
> > > work!  Rats.  So I'll see what I can do as some of the links are
> central
> > to
> > > several of the pages and the story over all.
> > >
> > > Chris G.
> > > Enosis
> > >
> >
>

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  8 23:49:06 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 23:49:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <B203FD1A-25C6-48D0-92B9-08324A2D642C@gmail.com>
References: <B203FD1A-25C6-48D0-92B9-08324A2D642C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27339A03-841F-4500-B41B-64C21DE0EB9F@gmail.com>

This video about headsail trim is also excellent: https://youtu.be/lwX66PKrIdE


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 11:21 PM, Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?These are great articles?Thanks Mary Lou!
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber, 2006/2018
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
>> ?HI Jeff,
>> When we owned our Rhodes, a 1991 with diamondboard centerboard, 160 genoa and 3 places to run the genoa sheets (outboard, inboard on the deck by the cabin and cabintop) we used all three under different conditions. It usually was determined by how much of the jib we had out which was determined by conditions.
>> 
>> That said most of our sailing was cruising to get somewhere so we often sailed the most comfortable angles that got us close to where we we going and would then motor the rest of the way when time or our patience ran out.
>> 
>> These articles which discuss trim and sheeting angles better than I can.
>> 
>> https://www.sailmagazine.com/racing/headsail-sheeting
>> https://www.uksailmakers.com/encyclopedia/5-2-genoa-trim
>> https://www.quantumsails.com/en/resources-and-expertise/articles/six-factors-of-perfect-upwind-headsail-trim
>> 
>> Best,
>> Mary Lou
>> ex Rhodes 22
>> now Rosborough RF-246  (We don't worry about pointing anymore, though we do note the angle of the seas for a comfortable ride.)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/8/2022 7:01 AM, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
>>> I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees.
>>> The input from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the
>>> two inboard leads?
>>> Best Regards
>>> Jeff Smith
>>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>>> 732-236-1368
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> www.avast.com

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 06:15:54 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 06:15:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
Message-ID: <CAB-twMON7tT=90iqsfmnj_6bEQdn_7WF1duM_opmao9FHL44sg@mail.gmail.com>

Are all emails being moderated and sometimes deleted, or is it just mine?

Todd T.

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 06:23:11 2022
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 06:23:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkppaeXda970pPU5rK_Y7M1RS4q0XjeeOtfe_BNn8QNhg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mary Lou! For being such a great resource.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 07:39:21 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 07:39:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmkppaeXda970pPU5rK_Y7M1RS4q0XjeeOtfe_BNn8QNhg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmkppaeXda970pPU5rK_Y7M1RS4q0XjeeOtfe_BNn8QNhg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWO5u9AXG6QW+q6Xzxa=zuDWNuefT-dfDOma4EBb9QHzA@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I second the sentiment! I concur with the conclusion. I agree with the
affirmation. Kidding aside, thanks Mary Lou. You have always been so
helpful. Thanks!  But we all can agree there are so many knowledgeable
people like Mary Lou too numerous to list on D List who share their advice
freely. Thank all of you.
Chris Geankoplis
XENOS
On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 6:23 AM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Mary Lou! For being such a great resource.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Sep  9 08:44:08 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 05:44:08 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
Message-ID: <E1oWdMe-004qC5-Mi@s152.servername.online>

I doubt that anyone is doing any moderating or deleting.

?Peter

> On 2022-09-09, at 06:15:54 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
>
> Are all emails being moderated and sometimes deleted, or is it just mine?
> 
> Todd T.
> 


From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 08:53:21 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 08:53:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMON7tT=90iqsfmnj_6bEQdn_7WF1duM_opmao9FHL44sg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <631b3756.020a0220.ea6e.031a@mx.google.com>

I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes deleted, or is it just mine?Todd T.

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 11:31:25 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 11:31:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <E1oWOvw-00CCrQ-Ab@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1oWOvw-00CCrQ-Ab@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <22a101d8c461$38fdd260$aaf97720$@gmail.com>

Hi Peter,

I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of this track?

Thanks,


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 5:20 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle

Jeff,

When my 130% headsail is significantly reefed, I will sometimes use the block on the car on the forward track near the cabin side.  It's a bit of a pain to do the switch, and I don't race, so I'm not religious about it.  I've never used the cabin top lead for the headsail.  I'm pretty satisfied if I can to 100 degree tacks and still maintain decent speed.

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2022-09-08, at 07:01:42 EDT, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
>
> I too am working to get my tacking angle at/ or close to 90 degrees. The input 
> from the group has been most helpful. Does anyone use one of the two inboard 
> leads? 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.<a href="http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net">http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net</a>
> 732-236-1368
> 



From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 11:36:11 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 11:36:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR03MB61562E7D56EA28F543E30486AE659@BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
References: <5319B10F-E608-43C0-AC93-E7CC866BEFE2@gmail.com>
 <BN9PR03MB61562E7D56EA28F543E30486AE659@BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <22a201d8c461$e471e190$ad55a4b0$@gmail.com>

I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C. Robert Lester
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

I intend/hope to go.
Bob & Karen
ORION


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would be great to meet you. 

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone


From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 12:40:07 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 12:40:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <631b3756.020a0220.ea6e.031a@mx.google.com>
References: <CAB-twMON7tT=90iqsfmnj_6bEQdn_7WF1duM_opmao9FHL44sg@mail.gmail.com>
 <631b3756.020a0220.ea6e.031a@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMN7zg7A_fjq=xDPQLH7xx=fWJL7RA4RnhbTBAOJGF4kmw@mail.gmail.com>

My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through to my
emails.

This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.

Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the Archives
on the owners page...

Thanks,

Todd T.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
> smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes
> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes deleted,
> or is it just mine?Todd T.
>

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 13:35:04 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 13:35:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMN7zg7A_fjq=xDPQLH7xx=fWJL7RA4RnhbTBAOJGF4kmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <631b7951.050a0220.1b463.0b40@mx.google.com>

The cyber gods are always doing stiff like that to me.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  12:40 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted? My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until thismorning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through to myemails.This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the Archiveson the owners page...Thanks,Todd T.On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G> smartphone> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22? 6:16 AM? (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes deleted,> or is it just mine?Todd T.>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Sep  9 15:15:01 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY@s152.servername.online>

There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:

    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)

    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list. If you don't want 
    to receive this copy, set this option to No.

--Peter

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Sep  9 15:33:40 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f@s152.servername.online>

Mike,

Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:

* The track is about 36" long.

* The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.

* I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)

* Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.

* The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)

* The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.

--Peter


> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
> this track? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Fri Sep  9 15:43:15 2022
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was related to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:35:50 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMN7zg7A_fjq=xDPQLH7xx=fWJL7RA4RnhbTBAOJGF4kmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB-twMON7tT=90iqsfmnj_6bEQdn_7WF1duM_opmao9FHL44sg@mail.gmail.com>
 <631b3756.020a0220.ea6e.031a@mx.google.com>
 <CAB-twMN7zg7A_fjq=xDPQLH7xx=fWJL7RA4RnhbTBAOJGF4kmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg@mail.gmail.com>

I have the same thing with my emails.  Don't see them posted either, but
when someone replies I see them.  Go figure.

Chris G.
Xenos

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through to my
> emails.
>
> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.
>
> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the Archives
> on the owners page...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd T.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
> > smartphone
> > -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
> > tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes
> > 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
> > Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes
> deleted,
> > or is it just mine?Todd T.
> >
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Sep  9 16:40:55 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode
Message-ID: <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A@mail.gmail.com>

Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal
(already posted new one).  Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the
single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to
Turkey.  All the embedded links should work.   Enjoy or wait for the movie.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing

Chris Geankoplis
Xenos

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 11:26:37 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw@mail.gmail.com>

Peter,

Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?

Todd T.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>
>     Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>
>     Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
> If you don't want
>     to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>
> --Peter
>

From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sat Sep 10 12:02:39 2022
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY@s152.servername.online>
 <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>

Todd,

I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.

I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address. The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an issue with the hotmail account.

Mike
s/v Wind Lass ('91)
Nissequogue River, NY


-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?

Peter,

Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?

Todd T.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>
>     Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>
>     Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
> If you don't want
>     to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>
> --Peter
>


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat Sep 10 12:04:47 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39@s152.servername.online>

Todd,

As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail thing.  But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html 

Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.  You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.  If you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to you.

--Peter

> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
>
> Peter,
> 
> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> 
> Todd T.
> 
> 


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 10 14:04:38 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
In-Reply-To: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>

Thanks Peter!

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle

Mike,

Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:

* The track is about 36" long.

* The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.

* I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)

* Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.

* The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)

* The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.

--Peter


> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
> this track? 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From cpg11566 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 11 08:22:58 2022
From: cpg11566 at yahoo.com (Charlie)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email
References: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF@yahoo.com>



Sent from my iPhone

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 13 10:56:28 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
In-Reply-To: <CAPgvAEnu-xVF9ZLsKP4poz4+SEvzqjE-zqk3=akDc5vXqs_tfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPgvAEmfjUD7ZoXi_hPKcEB3BgH7enzXfep_nqTC9mhqDtR3tg@mail.gmail.com>
 <BD13BD5F-BB49-4BAA-B443-523F7E6D6012@gmail.com>
 <CAPgvAEnu-xVF9ZLsKP4poz4+SEvzqjE-zqk3=akDc5vXqs_tfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>

Hi Lee,

I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.  Your picture doesn't show that detail.  Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or explain how you do that?

Thanks!

Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lee Kuhn
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole

The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.  The tension
from the sheet prevents it from falling out.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,
> but
> > the attached photo shows what I used.
> >
> > It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.  6' seemed like a good length but
> it
> > was too long.  Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.  From the cabin it was
> easy
> > to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.  Probably not a good idea
> > because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and used
> > it for a lot of years.
> >
> > Lee
> > 1999 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> > Claytor Lake, VA
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From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 10:30:58 2022
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
Message-ID: <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
ever spider bomb the cabin?
Thanks for any help you can give,
Matt Wilson
Hornblower II
White Bear Lake

From brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 11:03:54 2022
From: brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com (Brian Ferguson)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
In-Reply-To: <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A@mail.gmail.com>

I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> Thanks for any help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake
>

From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 13:28:13 2022
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
In-Reply-To: <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw@mail.gmail.com>

I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a preventative.
Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in my
boats or campers.  In fact I  just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last
weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.  I even tucked
one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the
impeller pee stream.  Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the spiders
will be starved out.

This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.  Perhaps
domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <
brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> bought
> > it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
> of
> > the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> > May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> > this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> > cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> Anyone
> > ever spider bomb the cabin?
> > Thanks for any help you can give,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake
> >
>

From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 15 14:21:50 2022
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <22a201d8c461$e471e190$ad55a4b0$@gmail.com>
References: <5319B10F-E608-43C0-AC93-E7CC866BEFE2@gmail.com>
 <BN9PR03MB61562E7D56EA28F543E30486AE659@BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
 <22a201d8c461$e471e190$ad55a4b0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg@mail.gmail.com>

So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
alone.

Mike
s/v Ranger
99 Rhodes
Hampton Roads, VA

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> Robert Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I intend/hope to go.
> Bob & Karen
> ORION
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
> be great to meet you.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 14:13:49 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5319B10F-E608-43C0-AC93-E7CC866BEFE2@gmail.com>
 <BN9PR03MB61562E7D56EA28F543E30486AE659@BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
 <22a201d8c461$e471e190$ad55a4b0$@gmail.com>
 <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>

I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
alone.

Mike
s/v Ranger
99 Rhodes
Hampton Roads, VA

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> Robert Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I intend/hope to go.
> Bob & Karen
> ORION
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
> be great to meet you.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>


From urchinn at aol.com  Sun Sep 18 15:51:40 2022
From: urchinn at aol.com (Tony Jonaitis)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
References: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255@mail.yahoo.com>

Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Sun Sep 18 16:54:34 2022
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
In-Reply-To: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <CH2PR02MB6920B6F844301AAC07D3642E804A9@CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Tony,

It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in your photos.  However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?, Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.  West Marine sell it for $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.  I have one of these anchor rail mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.  I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t flop around or foul a sheet.  Hopefully, this helps.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...

Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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From blue66corvette at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 18 18:46:42 2022
From: blue66corvette at hotmail.com (Charles Nieman)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:46:42 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
In-Reply-To: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255@mail.yahoo.com>
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Looking at the photos I can?t tell if the ?bent to hell? is the bow pulpit or just the metal brackets that hold the anchor on the bow pulpit. I think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses something ?off the shelf?. 

Sent from my iPhone

Charles 

> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> 
> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 19:53:09 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
References: <5319B10F-E608-43C0-AC93-E7CC866BEFE2@gmail.com>
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I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main challenges we need to address:

1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.

For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.

Thanks!


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
alone.

Mike
s/v Ranger
99 Rhodes
Hampton Roads, VA

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> Robert Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I intend/hope to go.
> Bob & Karen
> ORION
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
> be great to meet you.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 19:59:58 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
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I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send $50
for a lunch or something.

Chris Geankoplis
Xenos

On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
> challenges we need to address:
>
> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>
> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> alone.
>
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> > intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> > the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> > Robert Lester
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > I intend/hope to go.
> > Bob & Karen
> > ORION
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Michael McKay
> > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> > wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
> > be great to meet you.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
>
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 18 20:15:42 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
References: <5319B10F-E608-43C0-AC93-E7CC866BEFE2@gmail.com>
 <BN9PR03MB61562E7D56EA28F543E30486AE659@BN9PR03MB6156.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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Mike,

If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.

I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.

Todd T.

On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
> challenges we need to address:
>
> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>
> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> alone.
>
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> > intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> > the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> > Robert Lester
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > I intend/hope to go.
> > Bob & Karen
> > ORION
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Michael McKay
> > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> > wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
> > be great to meet you.
> >
> > Michael McKay
> > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
>
>

From daysails at aol.com  Mon Sep 19 07:36:24 2022
From: daysails at aol.com (daysails at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264@mail.yahoo.com>

 I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social gathering planned. ?
Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia
    On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the main challenges we need to address:

1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?
2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.

For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.

Thanks!


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA



-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?

So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it
alone.

Mike
s/v Ranger
99 Rhodes
Hampton Roads, VA

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
> Robert Lester
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> I intend/hope to go.
> Bob & Karen
> ORION
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael McKay
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>
> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It would
> be great to meet you.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>

  

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 08:18:48 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:18:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
In-Reply-To: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63285e33.050a0220.42712.922c@mx.google.com>

Are you referring to the pulpit or the anchor brackets?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 9/18/22  3:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster... Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: rhodesfront.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 49565 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: rhodesfront2.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 7120 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment-0001.jpg>

From cknell at vt.edu  Mon Sep 19 08:33:07 2022
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:33:07 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
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Hey all,

I don't have any telltales on my sails. If I were to add them, where 
should they be located on each of the sails given that we frequently 
(but not always)? have both the 130 and mainsail partially furled? How 
have others added telltales given that a few of the recommended 
locations are pretty high above deck? (Unfurling the sails with the mast 
down is not something I can picture doing).

 From what I've been reading, three sets on the headsail seems to be 
recommended, but I'd probably need two sets of three to account for our 
most typical furling configuration. Is that right?

For the main, 4 leach positions seems to be the minimum recommended. Is 
this what other Rhodies have found works? If so, at what locations? Most 
of the literature suggests a telltale at each horizontal batten ... and 
of course we don't have any.

Do others have telltales up the luff of the main? If so, how far back 
are they positioned from the fully-unfurled luff? Are there multiple 
sets of luff telltales to allow for furling of the main?

Sorry for all the questions. Thanks in advance to anyone with input on 
this topic.

Chris

From ohngreno at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 09:18:57 2022
From: ohngreno at gmail.com (Otto Ohngren)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 06:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support
Message-ID: <0E76E2AD-3D19-486F-9DDC-9C2B33E7E539@gmail.com>

?It?s a little too far to drive (or sail) from Oregon, but we?re also in for $50.00 towards the good of the cause, perhaps to help with a convenient B&B.

-Otto 

Otto & Bev Ohngren
Hermiston, OR

SV Cussin? Jill



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>   1. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
>   2. Re: Tacking angle (Peter Nyberg)
>   3. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
>   4. Re: Emails being deleted? (Chris Geankoplis)
>   5. End of the Rhode (Chris Geankoplis)
>   6. Re: Emails being deleted? (Todd Tavares)
>   7. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
>   8. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
>   9. Re: Tacking angle (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>  10. Email (Charlie)
>  11. Re: Whisker Pole (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>  12. Spider problem (Matt Wilson)
>  13. Re: Spider problem (Brian Ferguson)
>  14. Re: Spider problem (PBR)
>  15. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Michael Corley)
>  16. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>  17. Metal anchor holder disaster... (Tony Jonaitis)
>  18. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>  19. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (Charles Nieman)
>  20. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>  21. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Chris Geankoplis)
>  22. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Todd Tavares)
>  23. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (daysails at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY at s152.servername.online>
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> 
> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
> 
>    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> 
>    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list. If you don't want 
>    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f at s152.servername.online>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> 
> * The track is about 36" long.
> 
> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> 
> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> 
> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.
> 
> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)
> 
> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
>> this track? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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> 
> I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was related to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID:
>    <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> I have the same thing with my emails.  Don't see them posted either, but
> when someone replies I see them.  Go figure.
> 
> Chris G.
> Xenos
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
>> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through to my
>> emails.
>> 
>> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.
>> 
>> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
>> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the Archives
>> on the owners page...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Todd T.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
>>> smartphone
>>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
>>> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes
>>> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
>>> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes
>> deleted,
>>> or is it just mine?Todd T.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode
> Message-ID:
>    <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal
> (already posted new one).  Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the
> single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to
> Turkey.  All the embedded links should work.   Enjoy or wait for the movie.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Xenos
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400
> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID:
>    <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> 
> Todd T.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>> 
>>    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>> 
>>    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
>> If you don't want
>>    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>> 
>> --Peter
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> 
> Todd,
> 
> I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.
> 
> I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address. The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an issue with the hotmail account.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> 
> Todd T.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>> 
>>    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>> 
>>    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
>> If you don't want
>>    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>> 
>> --Peter
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700
> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39 at s152.servername.online>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
> Todd,
> 
> As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail thing.  But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html 
> 
> Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.  You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.  If you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to you.
> 
> --Peter
> 
>> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
>> 
>> Todd T.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400
> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> 
> Thanks Peter!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> 
> * The track is about 36" long.
> 
> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> 
> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> 
> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.
> 
> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)
> 
> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> 
> --Peter
> 
> 
>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
>> this track? 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400
> From: Charlie <cpg11566 at yahoo.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email
> Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF at yahoo.com>
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> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400
> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Lee,
> 
> I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.  Your picture doesn't show that detail.  Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or explain how you do that?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lee Kuhn
> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> 
> The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.  The tension
> from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,
>> but
>>> the attached photo shows what I used.
>>> It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.  6' seemed like a good length but
>> it
>>> was too long.  Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.  From the cabin it was
>> easy
>>> to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.  Probably not a good idea
>>> because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and used
>>> it for a lot of years.
>>> Lee
>>> 1999 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>>> Claytor Lake, VA
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500
> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> Thanks for any help you can give,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400
> From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> Message-ID:
>    <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400
> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> Message-ID:
>    <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a preventative.
> Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in my
> boats or campers.  In fact I  just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last
> weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.  I even tucked
> one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the
> impeller pee stream.  Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the spiders
> will be starved out.
> 
> This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.  Perhaps
> domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <
> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
>> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
>> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
>> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
>> bought
>>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
>> of
>>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
>>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
>>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
>>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
>> Anyone
>>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
>>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400
> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID:
>    <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> alone.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>> Robert Lester
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I intend/hope to go.
>> Bob & Karen
>> ORION
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael McKay
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>> be great to meet you.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400
> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> 
> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> 
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> alone.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>> Robert Lester
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I intend/hope to go.
>> Bob & Karen
>> ORION
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael McKay
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>> be great to meet you.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
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> Hi Tony,
> 
> It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in your photos.  However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?, Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.  West Marine sell it for $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.  I have one of these anchor rail mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.  I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t flop around or foul a sheet.  Hopefully, this helps.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 
> From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> 
> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:46:42 +0000
> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> Message-ID:
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> Looking at the photos I can?t tell if the ?bent to hell? is the bow pulpit or just the metal brackets that hold the anchor on the bow pulpit. I think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses something ?off the shelf?. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Charles 
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400
> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> 
> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main challenges we need to address:
> 
> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> 
> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> 
> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> 
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> alone.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>> Robert Lester
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I intend/hope to go.
>> Bob & Karen
>> ORION
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael McKay
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>> be great to meet you.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID:
>    <CADNTwiVguuc1V4w8Q8dN9rfxjEatXbwxHOWjS484yLye3n2+iw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send $50
> for a lunch or something.
> 
> Chris Geankoplis
> Xenos
> 
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
>> challenges we need to address:
>> 
>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>> 
>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
>> at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 22
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400
> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID:
>    <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Mike,
> 
> If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.
> 
> I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.
> 
> Todd T.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
>> challenges we need to address:
>> 
>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>> 
>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
>> at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 23
> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: "daysails at aol.com" <daysails at aol.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social gathering planned. ?
> Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia
>    On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the main challenges we need to address:
> 
> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?
> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> 
> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> 
> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> 
> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it
> alone.
> 
> Mike
> s/v Ranger
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA
> 
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>> Robert Lester
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I intend/hope to go.
>> Bob & Karen
>> ORION
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael McKay
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It would
>> be great to meet you.
>> 
>> Michael McKay
>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 09:31:02 2022
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 09:31:02 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support
In-Reply-To: <0E76E2AD-3D19-486F-9DDC-9C2B33E7E539@gmail.com>
References: <0E76E2AD-3D19-486F-9DDC-9C2B33E7E539@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CF146DA2-86A7-45D3-B27E-D2018E188173@gmail.com>

I am also happy to contribute to the cause; just let me know how to do that.

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC



> On Sep 19, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> It?s a little too far to drive (or sail) from Oregon, but we?re also in for $50.00 towards the good of the cause, perhaps to help with a convenient B&B.
> 
> -Otto 
> 
> Otto & Bev Ohngren
> Hermiston, OR
> 
> SV Cussin? Jill
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>  1. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
>>  2. Re: Tacking angle (Peter Nyberg)
>>  3. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
>>  4. Re: Emails being deleted? (Chris Geankoplis)
>>  5. End of the Rhode (Chris Geankoplis)
>>  6. Re: Emails being deleted? (Todd Tavares)
>>  7. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
>>  8. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
>>  9. Re: Tacking angle (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> 10. Email (Charlie)
>> 11. Re: Whisker Pole (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> 12. Spider problem (Matt Wilson)
>> 13. Re: Spider problem (Brian Ferguson)
>> 14. Re: Spider problem (PBR)
>> 15. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Michael Corley)
>> 16. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> 17. Metal anchor holder disaster... (Tony Jonaitis)
>> 18. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
>> 19. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (Charles Nieman)
>> 20. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
>> 21. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Chris Geankoplis)
>> 22. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Todd Tavares)
>> 23. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (daysails at aol.com)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700
>> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY at s152.servername.online>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>> 
>>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>> 
>>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list. If you don't want 
>>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700
>> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
>> Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f at s152.servername.online>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
>> 
>> * The track is about 36" long.
>> 
>> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
>> 
>> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
>> 
>> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.
>> 
>> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)
>> 
>> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
>>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
>>> this track? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>> 
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400
>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was related to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I have the same thing with my emails.  Don't see them posted either, but
>> when someone replies I see them.  Go figure.
>> 
>> Chris G.
>> Xenos
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
>>> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through to my
>>> emails.
>>> 
>>> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.
>>> 
>>> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
>>> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the Archives
>>> on the owners page...
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Todd T.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
>>>> smartphone
>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
>>>> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes
>>>> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
>>>> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes
>>> deleted,
>>>> or is it just mine?Todd T.
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal
>> (already posted new one).  Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the
>> single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to
>> Turkey.  All the embedded links should work.   Enjoy or wait for the movie.
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Xenos
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400
>> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
>> 
>> Todd T.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>>> 
>>>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>>> 
>>>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
>>> If you don't want
>>>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400
>> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Todd,
>> 
>> I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.
>> 
>> I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address. The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an issue with the hotmail account.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Todd Tavares
>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> 
>> Peter,
>> 
>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
>> 
>> Todd T.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the issue:
>>> 
>>>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
>>> 
>>>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the list.
>>> If you don't want
>>>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
>>> 
>>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700
>> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> 
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
>> Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39 at s152.servername.online>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Todd,
>> 
>> As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail thing.  But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html 
>> 
>> Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.  You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.  If you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to you.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>>> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
>>> 
>>> Peter,
>>> 
>>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
>>> 
>>> Todd T.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400
>> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
>> Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Thanks Peter!
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
>> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
>> 
>> * The track is about 36" long.
>> 
>> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
>> 
>> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.  (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
>> 
>> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other screw hole in the track is utilized.
>> 
>> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side, preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.  (The port track is OK.)
>> 
>> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
>> 
>> --Peter
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted forward 
>>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the position of 
>>> this track? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>> 
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400
>> From: Charlie <cpg11566 at yahoo.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email
>> Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400
>> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
>> Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hi Lee,
>> 
>> I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.  Your picture doesn't show that detail.  Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or explain how you do that?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Lee Kuhn
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
>> 
>> The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.  The tension
>> from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,
>>> but
>>>> the attached photo shows what I used.
>>>> It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.  6' seemed like a good length but
>>> it
>>>> was too long.  Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.  From the cabin it was
>>> easy
>>>> to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.  Probably not a good idea
>>>> because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and used
>>>> it for a lot of years.
>>>> Lee
>>>> 1999 Rhodes22  AT EASE
>>>> Claytor Lake, VA
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500
>> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400
>> From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
>> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
>> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
>> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I bought
>>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end of
>>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
>>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
>>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
>>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.  Anyone
>>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
>>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400
>> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a preventative.
>> Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in my
>> boats or campers.  In fact I  just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last
>> weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.  I even tucked
>> one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the
>> impeller pee stream.  Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the spiders
>> will be starved out.
>> 
>> This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.  Perhaps
>> domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <
>> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more, open
>>> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
>>> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
>>> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
>>> bought
>>>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
>>> of
>>>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
>>>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
>>>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
>>>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
>>> Anyone
>>>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
>>>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>> Hornblower II
>>>> White Bear Lake
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 15
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400
>> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 16
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400
>> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 17
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>
>> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
>> Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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>> Message: 18
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000
>> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
>> Message-ID:
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>> Hi Tony,
>> 
>> It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in your photos.  However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?, Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.  West Marine sell it for $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.  I have one of these anchor rail mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.  I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t flop around or foul a sheet.  Hopefully, this helps.
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 
>> From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
>> 
>> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:46:42 +0000
>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
>> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
>> Message-ID:
>>   <SN6PR04MB5438C1CBE5F350A56C45BF1AD94A9 at SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Looking at the photos I can?t tell if the ?bent to hell? is the bow pulpit or just the metal brackets that hold the anchor on the bow pulpit. I think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses something ?off the shelf?. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Charles 
>> 
>>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other, much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks, ya'llTonyMarblehead
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 20
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400
>> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main challenges we need to address:
>> 
>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>> 
>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 21
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400
>> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CADNTwiVguuc1V4w8Q8dN9rfxjEatXbwxHOWjS484yLye3n2+iw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send $50
>> for a lunch or something.
>> 
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Xenos
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
>>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
>>> challenges we need to address:
>>> 
>>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
>>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
>>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
>>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
>>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>>> 
>>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
>>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Corley
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>>> alone.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Ranger
>>> 99 Rhodes
>>> Hampton Roads, VA
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
>>> at
>>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>>> Mike
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>>> Robert Lester
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>>> Bob & Karen
>>>> ORION
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Michael McKay
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>>> be great to meet you.
>>>> Michael McKay
>>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 22
>> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400
>> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID:
>>   <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.
>> 
>> I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.
>> 
>> Todd T.
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
>>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
>>> challenges we need to address:
>>> 
>>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
>>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
>>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
>>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
>>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>>> 
>>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
>>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mike McKay
>>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>>> Allatoona Lake
>>> Acworth, GA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Corley
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>>> alone.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Ranger
>>> 99 Rhodes
>>> Hampton Roads, VA
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
>>> at
>>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>>> Mike
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>>> Robert Lester
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>>> Bob & Karen
>>>> ORION
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>>> Michael McKay
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>>> be great to meet you.
>>>> Michael McKay
>>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: "daysails at aol.com" <daysails at aol.com>
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264 at mail.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social gathering planned. ?
>> Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia
>>   On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:  
>> 
>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the main challenges we need to address:
>> 
>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?
>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>> 
>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Subject: Digest Footer
>> 
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 10:06:25 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:06:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support
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Thank you fellow Rhodie and fellow Oregonian.  Who and how shall we send
the funds to one of you who is going to the show?
Chris Geankoplis
Xenos

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:19 AM Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote:

> It?s a little too far to drive (or sail) from Oregon, but we?re also in
> for $50.00 towards the good of the cause, perhaps to help with a convenient
> B&B.
>
> -Otto
>
> Otto & Bev Ohngren
> Hermiston, OR
>
> SV Cussin? Jill
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 4:36 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >   1. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
> >   2. Re: Tacking angle (Peter Nyberg)
> >   3. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >   4. Re: Emails being deleted? (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   5. End of the Rhode (Chris Geankoplis)
> >   6. Re: Emails being deleted? (Todd Tavares)
> >   7. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >   8. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
> >   9. Re: Tacking angle (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >  10. Email (Charlie)
> >  11. Re: Whisker Pole (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >  12. Spider problem (Matt Wilson)
> >  13. Re: Spider problem (Brian Ferguson)
> >  14. Re: Spider problem (PBR)
> >  15. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Michael Corley)
> >  16. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >  17. Metal anchor holder disaster... (Tony Jonaitis)
> >  18. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >  19. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (Charles Nieman)
> >  20. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >  21. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Chris Geankoplis)
> >  22. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Todd Tavares)
> >  23. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (daysails at aol.com)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700
> > From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY at s152.servername.online>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >
> >    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >
> >    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list. If you don't want
> >    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700
> > From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> > Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f at s152.servername.online>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> >
> > * The track is about 36" long.
> >
> > * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> >
> > * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws
> threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.
> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> >
> > * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other
> screw hole in the track is utilized.
> >
> > * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,
> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.
> (The port track is OK.)
> >
> > * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >
> >> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted
> forward
> >> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the
> position of
> >> this track?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> > Size: 3292895 bytes
> > Desc: not available
> > URL: <
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220909/e1c31729/attachment.jpe
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400
> > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was related
> to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I have the same thing with my emails.  Don't see them posted either, but
> > when someone replies I see them.  Go figure.
> >
> > Chris G.
> > Xenos
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
> >> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through
> to my
> >> emails.
> >>
> >> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone replied.
> >>
> >> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
> >> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the
> Archives
> >> on the owners page...
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Todd T.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
> >>> smartphone
> >>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
> >>> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
> Rhodes
> >>> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
> >>> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes
> >> deleted,
> >>> or is it just mine?Todd T.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal
> > (already posted new one).  Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the
> > single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to
> > Turkey.  All the embedded links should work.   Enjoy or wait for the
> movie.
> >
> >
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Xenos
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400
> > From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >>
> >>    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >>
> >>    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list.
> >> If you don't want
> >>    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400
> > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Todd,
> >
> > I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was
> checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.
> >
> > I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address.
> The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming
> back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an
> issue with the hotmail account.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Todd Tavares
> > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> > Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >>
> >>    Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >>
> >>    Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list.
> >> If you don't want
> >>    to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700
> > From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> > Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39 at s152.servername.online>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Todd,
> >
> > As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail
> thing.  But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list
> Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html
> >
> > Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the
> page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.
> You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.  If
> you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to
> you.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >>
> >> Todd T.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400
> > From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> > Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thanks Peter!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Peter Nyberg
> > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> >
> > * The track is about 36" long.
> >
> > * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> >
> > * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws
> threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.
> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> >
> > * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other
> screw hole in the track is utilized.
> >
> > * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,
> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.
> (The port track is OK.)
> >
> > * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> >
> >> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted
> forward
> >> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the
> position of
> >> this track?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >
> > -------------- next part --------------
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400
> > From: Charlie <cpg11566 at yahoo.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email
> > Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF at yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400
> > From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> > Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Lee,
> >
> > I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end
> of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and
> prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.  Your picture doesn't
> show that detail.  Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or
> explain how you do that?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Lee Kuhn
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> >
> > The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.  The
> tension
> > from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,
> >> but
> >>> the attached photo shows what I used.
> >>> It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.  6' seemed like a good length but
> >> it
> >>> was too long.  Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.  From the cabin it was
> >> easy
> >>> to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.  Probably not a good idea
> >>> because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and
> used
> >>> it for a lot of years.
> >>> Lee
> >>> 1999 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> >>> Claytor Lake, VA
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
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> >>> URL: <
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500
> > From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> bought
> > it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
> of
> > the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> > May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> > this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> > cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> Anyone
> > ever spider bomb the cabin?
> > Thanks for any help you can give,
> > Matt Wilson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400
> > From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,
> open
> > the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> > effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> > throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> bought
> >> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
> of
> >> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> >> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> >> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> >> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> Anyone
> >> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> >> Thanks for any help you can give,
> >> Matt Wilson
> >> Hornblower II
> >> White Bear Lake
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400
> > From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a
> preventative.
> > Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in my
> > boats or campers.  In fact I  just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last
> > weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.  I even tucked
> > one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the
> > impeller pee stream.  Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the
> spiders
> > will be starved out.
> >
> > This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.  Perhaps
> > domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <
> > brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,
> open
> >> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> >> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> >> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> >> bought
> >>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
> >> of
> >>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring
> from
> >>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> >>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> >>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> >> Anyone
> >>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> >>> Thanks for any help you can give,
> >>> Matt Wilson
> >>> Hornblower II
> >>> White Bear Lake
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400
> > From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> > alone.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Ranger
> > 99 Rhodes
> > Hampton Roads, VA
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> >> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >> Robert Lester
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I intend/hope to go.
> >> Bob & Karen
> >> ORION
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael McKay
> >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >> be great to meet you.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400
> > From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> > alone.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Ranger
> > 99 Rhodes
> > Hampton Roads, VA
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> >> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >> Robert Lester
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I intend/hope to go.
> >> Bob & Karen
> >> ORION
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael McKay
> >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >> be great to meet you.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 17
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>
> > To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> > Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> > Message-ID:
> >    <
> CH2PR02MB6920B6F844301AAC07D3642E804A9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
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> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >
> > Hi Tony,
> >
> > It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in
> your photos.  However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?,
> Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is
> mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.  West Marine sell it for
> $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.  I have one of these anchor rail
> mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.  I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure
> the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t
> flop around or foul a sheet.  Hopefully, this helps.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
> > From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> >
> > Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 19
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:46:42 +0000
> > From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> > To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> > Message-ID:
> >    <
> SN6PR04MB5438C1CBE5F350A56C45BF1AD94A9 at SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Looking at the photos I can?t tell if the ?bent to hell? is the bow
> pulpit or just the metal brackets that hold the anchor on the bow pulpit. I
> think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete
> bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses
> something ?off the shelf?.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > Charles
> >
> >> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400
> > From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the
> main challenges we need to address:
> >
> > 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> > 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> > 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> > 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >
> > For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> > alone.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Ranger
> > 99 Rhodes
> > Hampton Roads, VA
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> >> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >> Robert Lester
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I intend/hope to go.
> >> Bob & Karen
> >> ORION
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael McKay
> >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >> be great to meet you.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 21
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400
> > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CADNTwiVguuc1V4w8Q8dN9rfxjEatXbwxHOWjS484yLye3n2+iw at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send
> $50
> > for a lunch or something.
> >
> > Chris Geankoplis
> > Xenos
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend
> >> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
> >> challenges we need to address:
> >>
> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> >> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> >> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better
> option
> >> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes
> from
> >> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>
> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call
> >> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael Corley
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> >> at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>> Mike
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 22
> > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400
> > From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID:
> >    <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.
> >
> > I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend
> >> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
> >> challenges we need to address:
> >>
> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> >> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> >> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better
> option
> >> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes
> from
> >> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>
> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call
> >> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael Corley
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> >> at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>> Mike
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 23
> > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: "daysails at aol.com" <daysails at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> > Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to
> take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I
> have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social
> gathering planned. ?
> > Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia
> >    On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <
> mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to
> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the
> main challenges we need to address:
> >
> > 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?
> > 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> > 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> > 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >
> > For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> > Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >
> >
> > Mike McKay
> > s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> > Allatoona Lake
> > Acworth, GA
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >
> > So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it
> > alone.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Ranger
> > 99 Rhodes
> > Hampton Roads, VA
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
> at
> >> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >> Robert Lester
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I intend/hope to go.
> >> Bob & Karen
> >> ORION
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Michael McKay
> >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It
> would
> >> be great to meet you.
> >>
> >> Michael McKay
> >> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: Digest Footer
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Rhodes22-list mailing list
> > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4467, Issue 1
> > **********************************************
>

From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 10:07:11 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 10:07:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support
In-Reply-To: <CF146DA2-86A7-45D3-B27E-D2018E188173@gmail.com>
References: <0E76E2AD-3D19-486F-9DDC-9C2B33E7E539@gmail.com>
 <CF146DA2-86A7-45D3-B27E-D2018E188173@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiUQ50wX4ac5zhdKjZ0AR1fh63yeEhpTxd-13yFnidO2hQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Frank!
Chris Geankoplis
Xenos

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:31 AM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am also happy to contribute to the cause; just let me know how to do
> that.
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
>
> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It?s a little too far to drive (or sail) from Oregon, but we?re also in
> for $50.00 towards the good of the cause, perhaps to help with a convenient
> B&B.
> >
> > -Otto
> >
> > Otto & Bev Ohngren
> > Hermiston, OR
> >
> > SV Cussin? Jill
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 19, 2022, at 4:36 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:
> >> ?Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to
> >>   rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >>   http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>   rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> >>
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>   rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org
> >>
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> >> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >>  1. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
> >>  2. Re: Tacking angle (Peter Nyberg)
> >>  3. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >>  4. Re: Emails being deleted? (Chris Geankoplis)
> >>  5. End of the Rhode (Chris Geankoplis)
> >>  6. Re: Emails being deleted? (Todd Tavares)
> >>  7. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >>  8. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)
> >>  9. Re: Tacking angle (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >> 10. Email (Charlie)
> >> 11. Re: Whisker Pole (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >> 12. Spider problem (Matt Wilson)
> >> 13. Re: Spider problem (Brian Ferguson)
> >> 14. Re: Spider problem (PBR)
> >> 15. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Michael Corley)
> >> 16. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >> 17. Metal anchor holder disaster... (Tony Jonaitis)
> >> 18. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >> 19. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (Charles Nieman)
> >> 20. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
> >> 21. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Chris Geankoplis)
> >> 22. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Todd Tavares)
> >> 23. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (daysails at aol.com)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700
> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY at s152.servername.online>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >>
> >>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >>
> >>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list. If you don't want
> >>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700
> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> >> Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f at s152.servername.online>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> >>
> >> * The track is about 36" long.
> >>
> >> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> >>
> >> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws
> threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.
> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> >>
> >> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other
> screw hole in the track is utilized.
> >>
> >> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,
> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.
> (The port track is OK.)
> >>
> >> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Peter,
> >>>
> >>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted
> forward
> >>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the
> position of
> >>> this track?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> Name: Fwd Jib Track.JPG
> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> Size: 3292895 bytes
> >> Desc: not available
> >> URL: <
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220909/e1c31729/attachment.jpe
> >
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400
> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was
> related to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400
> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I have the same thing with my emails.  Don't see them posted either, but
> >> when someone replies I see them.  Go figure.
> >>
> >> Chris G.
> >> Xenos
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this
> >>> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through
> to my
> >>> emails.
> >>>
> >>> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone
> replied.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.
> >>> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the
> Archives
> >>> on the owners page...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Todd T.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G
> >>>> smartphone
> >>>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <
> >>>> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22  6:16 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The
> Rhodes
> >>>> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
> >>>> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes
> >>> deleted,
> >>>> or is it just mine?Todd T.
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400
> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal
> >> (already posted new one).  Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the
> >> single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to
> >> Turkey.  All the embedded links should work.   Enjoy or wait for the
> movie.
> >>
> >>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing
> >>
> >> Chris Geankoplis
> >> Xenos
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400
> >> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >>
> >> Todd T.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >>>
> >>>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >>>
> >>>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list.
> >>> If you don't want
> >>>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >>>
> >>> --Peter
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400
> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Todd,
> >>
> >> I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was
> checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.
> >>
> >> I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address.
> The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming
> back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an
> issue with the hotmail account.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Todd Tavares
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >>
> >> Todd T.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the
> issue:
> >>>
> >>>   Receive your own posts to the list?   (Yes or No)
> >>>
> >>>   Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the
> list.
> >>> If you don't want
> >>>   to receive this copy, set this option to No.
> >>>
> >>> --Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700
> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?
> >> Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39 at s152.servername.online>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>
> >> Todd,
> >>
> >> As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail
> thing.  But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list
> Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html
> >>
> >> Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the
> page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.
> You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.  If
> you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to
> you.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >>
> >>> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Peter,
> >>>
> >>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?
> >>>
> >>> Todd T.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400
> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> >> Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Thanks Peter!
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Peter Nyberg
> >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> Photo attached (I hope).  A few notes:
> >>
> >> * The track is about 36" long.
> >>
> >> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.
> >>
> >> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws
> threaded into the fiberglass deck.  There are no nuts or backing plate.
> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)
> >>
> >> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other
> screw hole in the track is utilized.
> >>
> >> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,
> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.
> (The port track is OK.)
> >>
> >> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.
> >>
> >> --Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Peter,
> >>>
> >>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted
> forward
> >>> which it sounds like you have.  Do you have a picture that shows the
> position of
> >>> this track?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >> -------------- next part --------------
> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
> >> Name: Fwd Jib Track.JPG
> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> Size: 3292895 bytes
> >> Desc: not available
> >> URL: <
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220909/e1c31729/attachment.jpe
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400
> >> From: Charlie <cpg11566 at yahoo.com>
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email
> >> Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF at yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 11
> >> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400
> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> >> Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Hi Lee,
> >>
> >> I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end
> of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and
> prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.  Your picture doesn't
> show that detail.  Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or
> explain how you do that?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Lee Kuhn
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole
> >>
> >> The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.  The
> tension
> >> from the sheet prevents it from falling out.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?
> >>>
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,
> >>> but
> >>>> the attached photo shows what I used.
> >>>> It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.  6' seemed like a good length
> but
> >>> it
> >>>> was too long.  Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.  From the cabin it was
> >>> easy
> >>>> to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.  Probably not a good
> idea
> >>>> because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and
> used
> >>>> it for a lot of years.
> >>>> Lee
> >>>> 1999 Rhodes22  AT EASE
> >>>> Claytor Lake, VA
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 12
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500
> >> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> bought
> >> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end
> of
> >> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from
> >> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> >> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> >> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> Anyone
> >> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> >> Thanks for any help you can give,
> >> Matt Wilson
> >> Hornblower II
> >> White Bear Lake
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 13
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400
> >> From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,
> open
> >> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> >> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> >> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> bought
> >>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the
> end of
> >>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring
> from
> >>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with
> >>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the
> >>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> Anyone
> >>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> >>> Thanks for any help you can give,
> >>> Matt Wilson
> >>> Hornblower II
> >>> White Bear Lake
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 14
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400
> >> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a
> preventative.
> >> Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in
> my
> >> boats or campers.  In fact I  just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last
> >> weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.  I even
> tucked
> >> one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the
> >> impeller pee stream.  Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the
> spiders
> >> will be starved out.
> >>
> >> This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.  Perhaps
> >> domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <
> >> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,
> open
> >>> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them
> >>> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a
> >>> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I
> >>> bought
> >>>> it.  We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the
> end
> >>> of
> >>>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring
> from
> >>>> May till October.  Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal
> with
> >>>> this?  I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in
> the
> >>>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.
> >>> Anyone
> >>>> ever spider bomb the cabin?
> >>>> Thanks for any help you can give,
> >>>> Matt Wilson
> >>>> Hornblower II
> >>>> White Bear Lake
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 15
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400
> >> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>>
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 16
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400
> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>>
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 17
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>
> >> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> >> Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
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> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 18
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000
> >> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> >> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <
> CH2PR02MB6920B6F844301AAC07D3642E804A9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> >>
> >> Hi Tony,
> >>
> >> It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in
> your photos.  However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?,
> Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is
> mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.  West Marine sell it for
> $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.  I have one of these anchor rail
> mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.  I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure
> the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t
> flop around or foul a sheet.  Hopefully, this helps.
> >>
> >> Roger Pihlaja
> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >>
> >> From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM
> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> >>
> >> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
> >> -------------- next part --------------
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 19
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:46:42 +0000
> >> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>   <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <
> SN6PR04MB5438C1CBE5F350A56C45BF1AD94A9 at SN6PR04MB5438.namprd04.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Looking at the photos I can?t tell if the ?bent to hell? is the bow
> pulpit or just the metal brackets that hold the anchor on the bow pulpit. I
> think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete
> bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses
> something ?off the shelf?.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.  MY FAULT, and the other,
> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.  Unfortunately, the metal
> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.  Now what?  Did the
> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design
> that I might be able to find used?  The fittings that held this metal in
> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like
> that.  Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,
> ya'llTonyMarblehead
> >>> -------------- next part --------------
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> >
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> >
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 20
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400
> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the
> main challenges we need to address:
> >>
> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>
> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>>
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 21
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400
> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CADNTwiVguuc1V4w8Q8dN9rfxjEatXbwxHOWjS484yLye3n2+iw at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send
> $50
> >> for a lunch or something.
> >>
> >> Chris Geankoplis
> >> Xenos
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend
> >>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the
> main
> >>> challenges we need to address:
> >>>
> >>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> >>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> >>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better
> option
> >>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes
> from
> >>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>>
> >>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call
> >>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael Corley
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >>> alone.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> s/v Ranger
> >>> 99 Rhodes
> >>> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that
> Stan is
> >>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying
> >>> at
> >>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of C.
> >>>> Robert Lester
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>>> Bob & Karen
> >>>> ORION
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>>> Michael McKay
> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and
> am
> >>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>>> be great to meet you.
> >>>> Michael McKay
> >>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 22
> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400
> >> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID:
> >>   <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >>
> >> If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.
> >>
> >> I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.
> >>
> >> Todd T.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to
> attend
> >>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the
> main
> >>> challenges we need to address:
> >>>
> >>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> >>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
> >>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better
> option
> >>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes
> from
> >>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>>
> >>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call
> >>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mike McKay
> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >>> Allatoona Lake
> >>> Acworth, GA
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael Corley
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
> >>> alone.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> s/v Ranger
> >>> 99 Rhodes
> >>> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that
> Stan is
> >>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying
> >>> at
> >>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of C.
> >>>> Robert Lester
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>>> Bob & Karen
> >>>> ORION
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>>> Michael McKay
> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and
> am
> >>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It
> would
> >>>> be great to meet you.
> >>>> Michael McKay
> >>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 23
> >> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)
> >> From: "daysails at aol.com" <daysails at aol.com>
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >> Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to
> take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I
> have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social
> gathering planned. ?
> >> Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia
> >>   On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <
> mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to
> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the
> main challenges we need to address:
> >>
> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?
> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has
> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
> >>
> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference
> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mike McKay
> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> >> Allatoona Lake
> >> Acworth, GA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Michael Corley
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>
> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it
> >> alone.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Ranger
> >> 99 Rhodes
> >> Hampton Roads, VA
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan
> is
> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,
> staying at
> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> C.
> >>> Robert Lester
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> I intend/hope to go.
> >>> Bob & Karen
> >>> ORION
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It
> would
> >>> be great to meet you.
> >>>
> >>> Michael McKay
> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Subject: Digest Footer
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Rhodes22-list mailing list
> >> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4467, Issue 1
> >> **********************************************
>
>

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 11:55:47 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:55:47 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
Message-ID: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>

Hi All,
I appreciate the several offers of support for Stan, and I set up a Go Fund
Me page https://gofund.me/42ccbd5b to help us donate to getting Stan to the
boat show. 
We still need a Rhodes 22 to exhibit at the show.  Is there a Rhodie near
enough to Annapolis who can get it there?
Also, we need to get Stan to and from Edenton.  Is there anyone who might be
able to give him a lift?
Thanks for your support!
 
 
Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA
 
 

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 15:00:30 2022
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:00:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E3C185CB-2043-4BCB-8C14-B2CFA6320387@gmail.com>

Thanks, Mike.  Just donated.

Unfortunately, I can?t make the boat show (otherwise committed during that time), or I would offer to help with Stan?s transportation.

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On Sep 19, 2022, at 11:55 AM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I appreciate the several offers of support for Stan, and I set up a Go Fund
> Me page https://gofund.me/42ccbd5b to help us donate to getting Stan to the
> boat show. 
> We still need a Rhodes 22 to exhibit at the show.  Is there a Rhodie near
> enough to Annapolis who can get it there?
> Also, we need to get Stan to and from Edenton.  Is there anyone who might be
> able to give him a lift?
> Thanks for your support!
> 
> 
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
> 
> 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Sep 19 15:20:56 2022
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:20:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <E3C185CB-2043-4BCB-8C14-B2CFA6320387@gmail.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <E3C185CB-2043-4BCB-8C14-B2CFA6320387@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B4D3D551-69C9-44AD-8C64-705279B51D3F@stottarchitecture.com>


Rhodies
I  made a donation for a most worthy cause. 
My almost 40 year old Continental model, although I love it, is not the best representation of the boat and all its features and its too far to haul from long island. I hope the Rhodes 22 is represented and that Stan gets to attend. 
I had the most beautiful single handed sail yesterday that ended at a waterfront restaurant where I met my wife, had a fabulous meal, then sailed home in the dark.  It was just beautiful - magic. 
Ric 
DADVENTURE 
Hampton Bays, NY 


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Mike.  Just donated.
> 
> Unfortunately, I can?t make the boat show (otherwise committed during that time), or I would offer to help with Stan?s transportation.
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 11:55 AM, mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I appreciate the several offers of support for Stan, and I set up a Go Fund
>> Me page https://gofund.me/42ccbd5b to help us donate to getting Stan to the
>> boat show. 
>> We still need a Rhodes 22 to exhibit at the show.  Is there a Rhodie near
>> enough to Annapolis who can get it there?
>> Also, we need to get Stan to and from Edenton.  Is there anyone who might be
>> able to give him a lift?
>> Thanks for your support!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
> 


From stan at generalboats.com  Mon Sep 19 17:08:59 2022
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:08:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>

Dear Rhodies all,

I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit 
where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand 
and need to keep standing.

What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT 
need are more sales.? As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes 
sells itself.? But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have 
fallen to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having 
been sold.? We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible 
asset; the best land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the 
nation, earned the hard way: By being at its very first show (where I 
believe Chris (G) became intrigued with our take on what a writer of 
books, who is no fan of the Rhodes because it does not look to his 
conventional eye like a good old sailboat should, but nevertheless had 
to write: "From the deep blue ocean to the shallow coves, the Rhodes 
covers it all". So thanks but please, no need for monetary 
contributions.? With my mind and body having started parting company in 
my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was the time I would 
drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then dash back to NY 
to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company? and turn right around and get 
it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.? And think nothing 
of it.? Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer up to that.

Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to 
complete this email of mine:

  * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/

While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for 
demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just 
as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should 
be subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.? We have 
a used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine 
commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy 
one that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later 
returned it to us saying it owed him nothing his having had such 
pleasure from it.? It needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.? Selling 
that one at the show has the great advantage of having one less Rhodes 
wannabe haunting me daily since the last show.? In addition to, or in 
place of, we do have a couple wanting to go larger (which we encourage, 
our experience being they will miss the Rhodes and buy another when 
downsizing). Their boat is said to be in nice shape and not far from the 
show but they have no trailer and we have a new one at the plant and 
they will be thrilled if we accidentally sell their Rhodes which has an 
electric out board.

.///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
/

If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny 
enough to go with that one.? Or, if we are taking the new trailer to 
pick up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.? 
Getting home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
//

  * /?"F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
    probably not the best option"/

Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.

/. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors 
about the Rhodes 22."/

One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my 
nineties I can't stop.? I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming 
from Canada.? Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the 
habit.? Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.? But anyone who wants to 
come to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up 
with all my stories, that is great with me.


Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.? I am still (even more 
so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment 
is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman 
ventured the problem is me.? And I think he may be right.? Like Groucho, 
I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.

thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining 
the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and 
Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the 
towel.? You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the 
wings at general boats.

stan



From jamcando126 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 19 17:21:39 2022
From: jamcando126 at yahoo.com (John)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:21:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <B4D3D551-69C9-44AD-8C64-705279B51D3F@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>,
 <E3C185CB-2043-4BCB-8C14-B2CFA6320387@gmail.com>,
 <B4D3D551-69C9-44AD-8C64-705279B51D3F@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <Mime4j.0.6f21fe1cefcb1aca.18357a0cba5@imap.gmail.com>


From gramille at tds.net  Mon Sep 19 17:34:39 2022
From: gramille at tds.net (Graham Parker)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:34:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>

Yeah !

 That sounds like the Stan we all love.
 Have a great Show.

Graham Parker
sv ?00Sailin?
Vermont

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear Rhodies all,
> 
> I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand and need to keep standing.
> 
> What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes sells itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.  We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no need for monetary contributions.  With my mind and body having started parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And think nothing of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer up to that.
> 
> Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to complete this email of mine:
> 
> * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
> 
> While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have a used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.  It needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling that one at the show has the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily since the last show.  In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.
> 
> .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
> /
> 
> If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.  Getting home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
> //
> 
> * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
>   probably not the best option"/
> 
> Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
> 
> /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors about the Rhodes 22."/
> 
> One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to come to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with all my stories, that is great with me.
> 
> 
> Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even more so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman ventured the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like Groucho, I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
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> thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings at general boats.
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> stan
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From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 17:51:53 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 17:51:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support
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Those attending the boat show, don't forget your Rhodes 22 ball caps, especially of you're "standing watch" helping Stan! If you don't have one, I can get one to you if you order by this weekend. I'll have time to order in caps and have them embroidered ND shipped out to you before the 8th or 9th of October.They are $27.00 plus $5.00 shipping cost. Specify blue or white. Cost of everything has gone up.Order via my direct address: jpd9668atgmail.comPlease include your shipping address.I'll send you a bill for reimbursement via PayPal.?Joe DempseySV RespiteDeltaville,VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> Date: 9/19/22  10:07 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan - Boat Show Support Thanks Frank!Chris GeankoplisXenosOn Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:31 AM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>wrote:> I am also happy to contribute to the cause; just let me know how to do> that.>> Frank>> Frank Goldsmith> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)> Fairview, NC> Lake Keowee, SC>>>> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > It?s a little too far to drive (or sail) from Oregon, but we?re also in> for $50.00 towards the good of the cause, perhaps to help with a convenient> B&B.> >> > -Otto> >> > Otto & Bev Ohngren> > Hermiston, OR> >> > SV Cussin? Jill> >> >> >> > Sent from my iPhone> >> >> On Sep 19, 2022, at 4:36 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote:> >> ?Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to> >>?? rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> >>?? http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> >>?? rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org> >>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at> >>?? rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org> >>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> >> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."> >>> >>> >> Today's Topics:> >>> >>? 1. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)> >>? 2. Re: Tacking angle (Peter Nyberg)> >>? 3. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)> >>? 4. Re: Emails being deleted? (Chris Geankoplis)> >>? 5. End of the Rhode (Chris Geankoplis)> >>? 6. Re: Emails being deleted? (Todd Tavares)> >>? 7. Re: Emails being deleted? (Michael D. Weisner)> >>? 8. Re: Emails being deleted? (Peter Nyberg)> >>? 9. Re: Tacking angle (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)> >> 10. Email (Charlie)> >> 11. Re: Whisker Pole (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)> >> 12. Spider problem (Matt Wilson)> >> 13. Re: Spider problem (Brian Ferguson)> >> 14. Re: Spider problem (PBR)> >> 15. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Michael Corley)> >> 16. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)> >> 17. Metal anchor holder disaster... (Tony Jonaitis)> >> 18. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (ROGER PIHLAJA)> >> 19. Re: Metal anchor holder disaster... (Charles Nieman)> >> 20. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)> >> 21. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Chris Geankoplis)> >> 22. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (Todd Tavares)> >> 23. Re: Going to the Annapolis Boat Show? (daysails at aol.com)> >>> >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 1> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:15:01 -0700> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID: <E1oWjSv-008L0O-GY at s152.servername.online>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"> >>> >> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the> issue:> >>> >>?? Receive your own posts to the list??? (Yes or No)> >>> >>?? Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the> list. If you don't want> >>?? to receive this copy, set this option to No.> >>> >> --Peter> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 2> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:33:40 -0700> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle> >> Message-ID: <E1oWjky-008T4o-6f at s152.servername.online>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Mike,> >>> >> Photo attached (I hope).? A few notes:> >>> >> * The track is about 36" long.> >>> >> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.> >>> >> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws> threaded into the fiberglass deck.? There are no nuts or backing plate.> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)> >>> >> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other> screw hole in the track is utilized.> >>> >> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.> (The port track is OK.)> >>> >> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.> >>> >> --Peter> >>> >>> >>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:> >>>> >>> Hi Peter,> >>>> >>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted> forward> >>> which it sounds like you have.? Do you have a picture that shows the> position of> >>> this track?> >>>> >>> Thanks,> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >> Name: Fwd Jib Track.JPG> >> Type: image/jpeg> >> Size: 3292895 bytes> >> Desc: not available> >> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220909/e1c31729/attachment.jpe> >> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 3> >> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:43:15 -0400> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID: <mailman.1791.1662752606.2787.rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I think that we explored this issue before and found that it was> related to Gmail.Mikes/v Wind Lass, '91> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 4> >> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:35:50 -0400> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CADNTwiUZprYzWaguf_2MqVKgDL+k9y-Qm_iJ_rYUQ1qL2Li8jg at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I have the same thing with my emails.? Don't see them posted either, but> >> when someone replies I see them.? Go figure.> >>> >> Chris G.> >> Xenos> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 12:40 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>> wrote:> >>> >>> My post showed up in the Archives, but I didn't check that until this> >>> morning after I sent this one; but that post still never came through> to my> >>> emails.> >>>> >>> This one (Emails being deleted?) only came through when someone> replied.> >>>> >>> Maybe it's me or a setting in my Gmail account.> >>> Oh well, thanks for answering. I guess I can always just go to the> Archives> >>> on the owners page...> >>>> >>> Thanks,> >>>> >>> Todd T.> >>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 8:53 AM jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>>> >>>> I'm getting your emails?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G> >>>> smartphone> >>>> -------- Original message --------From: Todd Tavares <> >>>> tavares0947 at gmail.com> Date: 9/9/22? 6:16 AM? (GMT-05:00) To: The> Rhodes> >>>> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]> >>>> Emails being deleted? Are all emails being moderated and sometimes> >>> deleted,> >>>> or is it just mine?Todd T.> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 5> >> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2022 16:40:55 -0400> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] End of the Rhode> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CADNTwiWUfgQYytZohfaT31BHmk_r3OOfnVmrKS=hqmiBvhG67A at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Figured out how to convert word to pages to PDF for the 11-13 journal> >> (already posted new one).? Attached (copy & paste) is a new link for the> >> single continuous journal for the entire 1300 nm trip from Corfu to> >> Turkey.? All the embedded links should work.?? Enjoy or wait for the> movie.> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PcAkDAvFjnoqv0advRbo75kMaoLbmbT6/view?usp=sharing> >>> >> Chris Geankoplis> >> Xenos> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 6> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 11:26:37 -0400> >> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CAB-twMMMCW1XR6CHgtykYn7HnpYjCMZWaP5EkAVca6u0cnPADw at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Peter,> >>> >> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?> >>> >> Todd T.> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>> wrote:> >>> >>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the> issue:> >>>> >>>?? Receive your own posts to the list??? (Yes or No)> >>>> >>>?? Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the> list.> >>> If you don't want> >>>?? to receive this copy, set this option to No.> >>>> >>> --Peter> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 7> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 12:02:39 -0400> >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID: <00b601d8c52e$c149db00$43dd9100$@ebsmed.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Todd,> >>> >> I checked your list settings and found that the "no dupes" option was> checked. I cleared the flag. See if this helps.> >>> >> I also saw your old hotmail address. You are now using a gmail address.> The problem may be related to gmail which blocks your own email from coming> back to you. I cannot change that setting. This would not have been an> issue with the hotmail account.> >>> >> Mike> >> s/v Wind Lass ('91)> >> Nissequogue River, NY> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Todd Tavares> >> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27 AM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >>> >> Peter,> >>> >> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?> >>> >> Todd T.> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022, 3:15 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>> wrote:> >>> >>> There's a setting for this email list that may be the source of the> issue:> >>>> >>>?? Receive your own posts to the list??? (Yes or No)> >>>> >>>?? Ordinarily, you will get a copy of every message you post to the> list.> >>> If you don't want> >>>?? to receive this copy, set this option to No.> >>>> >>> --Peter> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 8> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 09:04:47 -0700> >> From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Emails being deleted?> >> Message-ID: <E1oX2yN-003hQs-39 at s152.servername.online>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"> >>> >> Todd,> >>> >> As Mike pointed out, it might not be the setting, it might be a gMail> thing.? But, you can edit your settings at any time by using the email list> Admin page: http://www.rhodes22.org/email-admin.html> >>> >> Put your subscription email address in the field at the bottom of the> page and click on the button that says 'Unsubscribe or edit options'.> You'll be taken to a page where you can enter your password and log in.? If> you don't remember your password, there's a button to have it emailed to> you.> >>> >> --Peter> >>> >>> On 2022-09-10, at 11:26:37 EDT, Todd Tavares wrote:> >>>> >>> Peter,> >>>> >>> Do you know if there any way to go back and change that setting?> >>>> >>> Todd T.> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 9> >> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 14:04:38 -0400> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle> >> Message-ID: <23c001d8c53f$cba43ee0$62ecbca0$@gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Thanks Peter!> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Peter Nyberg> >> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:34 PM> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tacking angle> >>> >> Mike,> >>> >> Photo attached (I hope).? A few notes:> >>> >> * The track is about 36" long.> >>> >> * The track mounted cleat in the picture is for my anchor rode.> >>> >> * I'm pretty sure the track is attached by flat head machine screws> threaded into the fiberglass deck.? There are no nuts or backing plate.> (Let me know if you want me to try to verify this.)> >>> >> * Stan is so confident of the mounting technique that only every other> screw hole in the track is utilized.> >>> >> * The track in the picture is mounted too close to the cabin side,> preventing the block car from using the aft-most foot or so of the track.> (The port track is OK.)> >>> >> * The picture makes my boat look much more dirty that it does to my eye.> >>> >> --Peter> >>> >>> >>> On 2022-09-09, at 11:31:25 EDT, Michael McKay wrote:> >>>> >>> Hi Peter,> >>>> >>> I believe that GB had an option for a second jib lead track mounted> forward> >>> which it sounds like you have.? Do you have a picture that shows the> position of> >>> this track?> >>>> >>> Thanks,> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >> Name: Fwd Jib Track.JPG> >> Type: image/jpeg> >> Size: 3292895 bytes> >> Desc: not available> >> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220909/e1c31729/attachment.jpe> >> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 10> >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2022 08:22:58 -0400> >> From: Charlie <cpg11566 at yahoo.com>> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Email> >> Message-ID: <70F532AB-E792-43E4-B3D2-CD6C6DB5D2FF at yahoo.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii> >>> >>> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 11> >> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:56:28 -0400> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole> >> Message-ID: <25fc01d8c781$00eab500$02c01f00$@gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Hi Lee,> >>> >> I'd like to try your technique, but I'm not clear on how the handle end> of the boat hook is attached to the shroud in a way that is secure and> prevents the boat hook from riding up the shroud.? Your picture doesn't> show that detail.? Could you please show us a picture of the handle end or> explain how you do that?> >>> >> Thanks!> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Lee Kuhn> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 2:44 AM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Whisker Pole> >>> >> The male end of the pole rests in the female hole of the clew.? The> tension> >> from the sheet prevents it from falling out.> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 11:18 PM Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>> wrote:> >>> >>> Great idea Lee?how do you attach it to the shroud?> >>>> >>> Michael McKay> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone> >>>> >>>> On Feb 7, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:> >>>> ?Nothing as elaborate or functional as Jeff's and other whisker poles,> >>> but> >>>> the attached photo shows what I used.> >>>> It's a 6' long telescoping boat hook.? 6' seemed like a good length> but> >>> it> >>>> was too long.? Go with a 4' that extends to 8'.? From the cabin it was> >>> easy> >>>> to attach it to a shroud instead of the mast.? Probably not a good> idea> >>>> because you could break the shroud, but I never had any problems and> used> >>>> it for a lot of years.> >>>> Lee> >>>> 1999 Rhodes22? AT EASE> >>>> Claytor Lake, VA> >>>> -------------- next part --------------> >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >>>> Name: Whisker Pole.jpg> >>>> Type: image/jpeg> >>>> Size: 1942587 bytes> >>>> Desc: not available> >>>> URL: <> >>>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220207/1f955aaa/attachment.jpg> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >> Name: Screenshot_20220208-022642_Chrome.jpg> >> Type: image/jpeg> >> Size: 1145896 bytes> >> Desc: not available> >> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220208/2e5f0857/attachment.jpg> >> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 12> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 09:30:58 -0500> >> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CANbEFCsYJRuEy0GdjUkaMGBK0eu1TRh=xJrGAP6E6TzABqE6pg at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Hello everyone,> >>> >> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I> bought> >> it.? We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the end> of> >> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring from> >> May till October.? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with> >> this?? I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the> >> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.> Anyone> >> ever spider bomb the cabin?> >> Thanks for any help you can give,> >> Matt Wilson> >> Hornblower II> >> White Bear Lake> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 13> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:03:54 -0400> >> From: Brian Ferguson <brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CAPD+wLF2OEATZEazuSdUZKU23Cho-H2W2wFnvv=xMbeW=r1v6A at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,> open> >> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them> >> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a> >> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.> >>> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>> wrote:> >>> >>> Hello everyone,> >>>> >>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I> bought> >>> it.? We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the> end of> >>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring> from> >>> May till October.? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal with> >>> this?? I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in the> >>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.> Anyone> >>> ever spider bomb the cabin?> >>> Thanks for any help you can give,> >>> Matt Wilson> >>> Hornblower II> >>> White Bear Lake> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 14> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 13:28:13 -0400> >> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Spider problem> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CAJGJx+A-S4BiAOu_TgNa-3ZGe+AW79+K4EZPDOBr8GgbtD_8Mw at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I have had good results using a few bounce dryer sheets as a> preventative.> >> Mostly against bees and wasps but I have never had a spider problem in> my> >> boats or campers.? In fact I? just refreshed the sheets in my R22 last> >> weekend as it has sat all summer.in NC, no bugs observed.? I even> tucked> >> one inside the outboard cover, as I have had mud dauber bees clog up the> >> impeller pee stream.? Maybe if it discourages the smaller bugs the> spiders> >> will be starved out.> >>> >> This technique is not 100% in my home laundry room though.? Perhaps> >> domestic bugs have a tolerance for the scent.> >>> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 11:04 AM Brian Ferguson <> >> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I've always been a fan of mothballs. When you go back to sailing more,> open> >>> the hatches and the smell disappears pretty quickly. I used them> >>> effectively in coastal NC. Initially though I would just use a> >>> throwaway feather duster to clear out the current problem.> >>>> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 10:31 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>> >>> wrote:> >>>> >>>> Hello everyone,> >>>> I have a 1990 Rhodes that set on the hard for several years before I> >>> bought> >>>> it.? We seem to have a pretty healthy spider colony on board by the> end> >>> of> >>>> the summer. The boat sits on the trailer all winter and the mooring> from> >>>> May till October.? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to deal> with> >>>> this?? I have tried using some ?natural? sprays and sticky traps in> the> >>>> cabin and along the seem between the deck and hull to little avail.> >>> Anyone> >>>> ever spider bomb the cabin?> >>>> Thanks for any help you can give,> >>>> Matt Wilson> >>>> Hornblower II> >>>> White Bear Lake> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 15> >> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2022 14:21:50 -0400> >> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CACSd1jKENz_fznYJWqtR8VkOnjVP2R6M8qzKBcfkjnj7xYqrkg at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >> alone.> >>> >> Mike> >> s/v Ranger> >> 99 Rhodes> >> Hampton Roads, VA> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan> is> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying at> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> C.> >>> Robert Lester> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I intend/hope to go.> >>> Bob & Karen> >>> ORION> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael McKay> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>> be great to meet you.> >>>> >>> Michael McKay> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 16> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:13:49 -0400> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID: <022801d8cb8a$6725de50$35719af0$@gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.> >>> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Michael Corley> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >> alone.> >>> >> Mike> >> s/v Ranger> >> 99 Rhodes> >> Hampton Roads, VA> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan> is> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying at> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> C.> >>> Robert Lester> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I intend/hope to go.> >>> Bob & Karen> >>> ORION> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael McKay> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>> be great to meet you.> >>>> >>> Michael McKay> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 17> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:51:40 +0000 (UTC)> >> From: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>> >> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...> >> Message-ID: <254137382.2931010.1663530700255 at mail.yahoo.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other,> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design> that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like> that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,> ya'llTonyMarblehead> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >> Name: rhodesfront.jpg> >> Type: image/jpeg> >> Size: 49565 bytes> >> Desc: not available> >> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment.jpg> >> >> -------------- next part --------------> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >> Name: rhodesfront2.jpg> >> Type: image/jpeg> >> Size: 7120 bytes> >> Desc: not available> >> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment-0001.jpg> >> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 18> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:54:34 +0000> >> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>> >> To: Tony Jonaitis <urchinn at aol.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List> >>?? <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <> CH2PR02MB6920B6F844301AAC07D3642E804A9 at CH2PR02MB6920.namprd02.prod.outlook.com> >> >>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"> >>> >> Hi Tony,> >>> >> It?s a little hard to tell what you are referring to as ?the cage? in> your photos.? However, Schaefer makes a ?Fluke-Style Anchor Rail Mount?,> Schaeffer P/N: SCHAE#AH-100, that looks exactly like what your anchor is> mounted to on the bow pulpit in the photos.? West Marine sell it for> $74.99, West Marine Catalog No: 8241333.? I have one of these anchor rail> mounts on S/V Dynamic Equilibrium.? I use a Velcro cinch strap to secure> the anchor shank to one of the uprights on the bow pulpit, so it doesn?t> flop around or foul a sheet.? Hopefully, this helps.> >>> >> Roger Pihlaja> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium> >>> >> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for> Windows> >>> >> From: Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 12:51 PM> >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Metal anchor holder disaster...> >>> >> Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other,> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design> that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like> that.? 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I> think I have a set of extra brackets here in north Texas, for a complete> bow pulpit you may need to contact General Boats, but I?d guess Stan uses> something ?off the shelf?.> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >> Charles> >>> >>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Tony Jonaitis via Rhodes22-list <> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:> >>>> >>> ?Okay, had a bit of a boat collision today.? MY FAULT, and the other,> much-larger, boat suffered a bent metal post.? Unfortunately, the metal> anchor-holding "cage" has been bent to hell and back.? Now what?? Did the> Rhodes makers use a "cage" specific to this boat, or is it a generic design> that I might be able to find used?? The fittings that held this metal in> place are in perfect shape, with no cracked fiberglass or anything like> that.? Photos included (not my boat) with close-up of the "cage!"Thanks,> ya'llTonyMarblehead> >>> -------------- next part --------------> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >>> Name: rhodesfront.jpg> >>> Type: image/jpeg> >>> Size: 49565 bytes> >>> Desc: not available> >>> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment.jpg> >> >>> -------------- next part --------------> >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...> >>> Name: rhodesfront2.jpg> >>> Type: image/jpeg> >>> Size: 7120 bytes> >>> Desc: not available> >>> URL: <> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220918/4d3fcc16/attachment-0001.jpg> >> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 20> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:53:09 -0400> >> From: <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>> >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID: <0bc901d8cbb9$ce45aa50$6ad0fef0$@gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the> main challenges we need to address:> >>> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.> >>> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.> >>> >> Thanks!> >>> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.> >>> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Michael Corley> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >> alone.> >>> >> Mike> >> s/v Ranger> >> 99 Rhodes> >> Hampton Roads, VA> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan> is> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying at> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> C.> >>> Robert Lester> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I intend/hope to go.> >>> Bob & Karen> >>> ORION> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael McKay> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>> be great to meet you.> >>>> >>> Michael McKay> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 21> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 19:59:58 -0400> >> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CADNTwiVguuc1V4w8Q8dN9rfxjEatXbwxHOWjS484yLye3n2+iw at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I can't make it this year I'll be Kansas but let me know how I can send> $50> >> for a lunch or something.> >>> >> Chris Geankoplis> >> Xenos> >>> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to> attend> >>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the> main> >>> challenges we need to address:> >>>> >>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?> >>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.> >>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the> >>> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.> >>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has> >>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better> option> >>> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes> from> >>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.> >>>> >>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference> call> >>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.> >>>> >>> Thanks!> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael Corley> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >>> alone.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>> s/v Ranger> >>> 99 Rhodes> >>> Hampton Roads, VA> >>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>>> >>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that> Stan is> >>>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying> >>> at> >>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> Mike> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf> Of C.> >>>> Robert Lester> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> I intend/hope to go.> >>>> Bob & Karen> >>>> ORION> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>>> Michael McKay> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and> am> >>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>>> be great to meet you.> >>>> Michael McKay> >>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 22> >> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 20:15:42 -0400> >> From: Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID:> >>?? <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg at mail.gmail.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> Mike,> >>> >> If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.> >>> >> I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.> >>> >> Todd T.> >>> >> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to> attend> >>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the> main> >>> challenges we need to address:> >>>> >>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?> >>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.> >>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the> >>> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.> >>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has> >>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better> option> >>> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes> from> >>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.> >>>> >>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference> call> >>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.> >>>> >>> Thanks!> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.> >>>> >>>> >>> Mike McKay> >>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >>> Allatoona Lake> >>> Acworth, GA> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael Corley> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >>> alone.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>> s/v Ranger> >>> 99 Rhodes> >>> Hampton Roads, VA> >>>> >>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>>> >>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that> Stan is> >>>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying> >>> at> >>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> Mike> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf> Of C.> >>>> Robert Lester> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> I intend/hope to go.> >>>> Bob & Karen> >>>> ORION> >>>> -----Original Message-----> >>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>>> Michael McKay> >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and> am> >>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>>> be great to meet you.> >>>> Michael McKay> >>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 23> >> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 11:36:24 +0000 (UTC)> >> From: "daysails at aol.com" <daysails at aol.com>> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >> Message-ID: <1153014332.821702.1663587384264 at mail.yahoo.com>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> >>> >> I am planning to attend the boat show and would be more than happy to> take a number of shifts on the show floor helping the boat sell itself. ?I> have done this in the past. ?I am also interested in joining any social> gathering planned. ?> >> Joe RileySecond WindAthens, Georgia> >>?? On Sunday, September 18, 2022, 07:53:14 PM EDT, <> mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.? She is unable to> attend this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.? Here are the> main challenges we need to address:> >>> >> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.? Who can bring theirs to the show?> >> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.> >> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the> boat.? I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.> >> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.? In the past he has> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option> than that.? Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.> >>> >> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference> call so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.> >>> >> Thanks!> >>> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> >> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>> >> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.> >>> >>> >> Mike McKay> >> s/v Liber (2006/2018)> >> Allatoona Lake> >> Acworth, GA> >>> >>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> Michael Corley> >> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>> >> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?? He cannot do it> >> alone.> >>> >> Mike> >> s/v Ranger> >> 99 Rhodes> >> Hampton Roads, VA> >>> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:> >>> >>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan> is> >>> intending to be in Annapolis.? I'll be there from 10/11--10/15,> staying at> >>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.> >>>> >>> Mike> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> C.> >>> Robert Lester> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> I intend/hope to go.> >>> Bob & Karen> >>> ORION> >>>> >>>> >>> -----Original Message-----> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of> >>> Michael McKay> >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM> >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?> >>>> >>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am> >>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?? It> would> >>> be great to meet you.> >>>> >>> Michael McKay> >>> (630) 209-2054 (m)> >>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Subject: Digest Footer> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Rhodes22-list mailing list> >> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4467, Issue 1> >> **********************************************>>

From oehecht at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 18:44:46 2022
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 18:44:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGUHJmRZNBaKrpDOCXiiYs27HbwyagU-9W3yyb_GS3XK+5EUNA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, great to hear from you Stan!  I?m in the process of moving Fretless
from Richmond to the Annapolis area - this weekend is actually the planned
date for me to finally go get her. I was planning to sail her north but
that might be too complicated at this point and I?ll probably tow her up
here on Saturday.

I?m just not sure she?s in any condition for the show?maybe she can be in
the water for demos if I get her ready in time. She?s needs some work - I
barely sailed her at all last season and she?s been sitting this entire
season so far as we were in the process of moving between April and July
and I just haven?t been able to spend time with/on her.

Hopefully she?ll be in the Edgewater area later this weekend and I?ll keep
the group posted about her condition in case she can be useful.

Olivier
s/v Fretless

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 5:34 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:

> Yeah !
>
>  That sounds like the Stan we all love.
>  Have a great Show.
>
> Graham Parker
> sv ?00Sailin?
> Vermont
>
> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Rhodies all,
> >
> > I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit
> where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand
> and need to keep standing.
> >
> > What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT
> need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes sells
> itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen to
> zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.  We
> go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best
> land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the
> hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became
> intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the
> Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old
> sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean
> to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no
> need for monetary contributions.  With my mind and body having started
> parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was
> the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then
> dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right
> around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And
> think nothing of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer
> up to that.
> >
> > Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to
> complete this email of mine:
> >
> > * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
> >
> > While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for
> demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just as
> delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be
> subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have a
> used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine
> commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one
> that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to
> us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.  It
> needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling that one at the show has
> the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily
> since the last show.  In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple
> wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will
> miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be
> in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we
> have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally
> sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.
> >
> > .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
> > /
> >
> > If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny
> enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick
> up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.  Getting
> home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
> > //
> >
> > * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
> >   probably not the best option"/
> >
> > Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
> >
> > /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors
> about the Rhodes 22."/
> >
> > One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my
> nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming
> from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the
> habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to come
> to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with
> all my stories, that is great with me.
> >
> >
> > Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even more
> so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment is
> wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman ventured
> the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like Groucho, I am
> nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
> >
> > thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining
> the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and
> Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the
> towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings
> at general boats.
> >
> > stan
> >
> >
>
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 22:03:20 2022
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:03:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
 <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>
Message-ID: <A4CB6B38-0894-49F1-8EB7-B8679DB0A4EC@gmail.com>

Vintage Stan.  So good to hear.  

Frank

> On Sep 19, 2022, at 5:34 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> 
> Yeah !
> 
> That sounds like the Stan we all love.
> Have a great Show.
> 
> Graham Parker
> sv ?00Sailin?
> Vermont
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Rhodies all,
>> 
>> I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand and need to keep standing.
>> 
>> What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes sells itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.  We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no need for monetary contributions.  With my mind and body having started parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And think nothing of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer up to that.
>> 
>> Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to complete this email of mine:
>> 
>> * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
>> 
>> While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have a used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.  It needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling that one at the show has the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily since the last show.  In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.
>> 
>> .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
>> /
>> 
>> If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.  Getting home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
>> //
>> 
>> * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
>>  probably not the best option"/
>> 
>> Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
>> 
>> /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors about the Rhodes 22."/
>> 
>> One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to come to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with all my stories, that is great with me.
>> 
>> 
>> Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even more so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman ventured the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like Groucho, I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
>> 
>> thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings at general boats.
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>> 
> 


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 22:15:22 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (Michael McKay)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 22:15:22 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
In-Reply-To: <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAB-twMNA8NnYBSeNOhBxMXY2hkaewdPCGs-5ghhT4ovaYs2xQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CF89FBBD-A5C5-4DB3-AB5B-423CE7D9A4E0@gmail.com>

Thank you Todd.  Stan isn?t driving at the moment, but we are hoping to find a way to get him to Annapolis, possibly with a trailer.  

Michael McKay
(630) 209-2054 (m)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2022, at 8:15 PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Mike,
> 
> If a car would be helpful for Stan's local transportation, let me know.
> 
> I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata that I don't use much.
> 
> Todd T.
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 7:53 PM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I just spoke with Stan's daughter, Cindy Spitzer.  She is unable to attend
>> this year's show, and Stan definitely needs our help.  Here are the main
>> challenges we need to address:
>> 
>> 1) We need a Rhodes 22 to show.  Who can bring theirs to the show?
>> 2) Stan needs transportation to and from Annapolis.
>> 3) Stan will need support on the show floor to talk with visitors the
>> boat.  I'm thinking we can organize some shifts.
>> 4) Stan needs help with accommodations and meals.  In the past he has
>> slept on the display boat, but I'm hoping we can work out a better option
>> than that.  Cindy has offered her house, but that is about 40 minutes from
>> the show, so it's not ideal but it is a possibility.
>> 
>> For those who think they can help, I'd like to schedule a conference call
>> so we can discuss this and come up with a plan.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2022 2:14 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: RE: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> I offered him assistance but didn't get any response yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Mike McKay
>> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
>> Allatoona Lake
>> Acworth, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Michael Corley
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:22 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>> 
>> So, who is helping Stan at the Boat Show this year?  He cannot do it
>> alone.
>> 
>> Mike
>> s/v Ranger
>> 99 Rhodes
>> Hampton Roads, VA
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 11:36 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did get a message from Charles a couple of days ago saying that Stan is
>>> intending to be in Annapolis.  I'll be there from 10/11--10/15, staying
>> at
>>> the Courtyard Marriot in Annapolis.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of C.
>>> Robert Lester
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:17 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> I intend/hope to go.
>>> Bob & Karen
>>> ORION
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>> Michael McKay
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 11:36 PM
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Going to the Annapolis Boat Show?
>>> 
>>> Hi, I?m planning on going to the Annapolis Boat Show in October, and am
>>> wondering if any of you folks are also planning on being there?  It would
>>> be great to meet you.
>>> 
>>> Michael McKay
>>> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

From shawn.sustain at gmail.com  Mon Sep 19 23:52:51 2022
From: shawn.sustain at gmail.com (Shawn Boles)
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2022 20:52:51 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <A4CB6B38-0894-49F1-8EB7-B8679DB0A4EC@gmail.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
 <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>
 <A4CB6B38-0894-49F1-8EB7-B8679DB0A4EC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMzGxuOZdtjknLhbDXeAKEr7G+pPmP_bfSbN9q9MLJSez6XfWg@mail.gmail.com>

Stan:

Thanks for the update, oh happy curmudgeon! Have fun.

Cheers,

Shawn

s/v Sweet Baboo

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 7:03 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Vintage Stan.  So good to hear.
>
> Frank
>
> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 5:34 PM, Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah !
> >
> > That sounds like the Stan we all love.
> > Have a great Show.
> >
> > Graham Parker
> > sv ?00Sailin?
> > Vermont
> >
> >> On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Rhodies all,
> >>
> >> I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a
> bit where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97,
> stand and need to keep standing.
> >>
> >> What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do
> NOT need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes
> sells itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen
> to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.
> We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best
> land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the
> hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became
> intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the
> Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old
> sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean
> to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no
> need for monetary contributions.  With my mind and body having started
> parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was
> the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then
> dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right
> around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And
> think nothing of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer
> up to that.
> >>
> >> Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to
> complete this email of mine:
> >>
> >> * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
> >>
> >> While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water
> for demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just
> as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be
> subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have a
> used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine
> commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one
> that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to
> us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.  It
> needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling that one at the show has
> the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily
> since the last show.  In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple
> wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will
> miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be
> in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we
> have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally
> sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.
> >>
> >> .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
> >> /
> >>
> >> If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny
> enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick
> up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.  Getting
> home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
> >> //
> >>
> >> * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
> >>  probably not the best option"/
> >>
> >> Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
> >>
> >> /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors
> about the Rhodes 22."/
> >>
> >> One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In
> my nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming
> from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the
> habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to come
> to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with
> all my stories, that is great with me.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even
> more so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial
> investment is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill
> Wickman ventured the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like
> Groucho, I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
> >>
> >> thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining
> the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and
> Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the
> towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings
> at general boats.
> >>
> >> stan
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

From dsempek64506 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 20 08:49:04 2022
From: dsempek64506 at yahoo.com (david sempek)
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 12:49:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <1860097875.264000.1663678144033@mail.yahoo.com>

It is posts like this that makes me want to keep my Rhodes. My 1976 Rhodes 22 was found in an Iowa field. The interior was a pool complete with frogs and a few toads. One blown tire on the way home and many hours of fiberglassing, carpentry and refitting the little Rhodes is now a club favorite. Carry on General Boats.?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 4:09 PM, stan<stan at generalboats.com> wrote:   Dear Rhodies all,

I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit 
where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand 
and need to keep standing.

What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT 
need are more sales.? As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes 
sells itself.? But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have 
fallen to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having 
been sold.? We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible 
asset; the best land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the 
nation, earned the hard way: By being at its very first show (where I 
believe Chris (G) became intrigued with our take on what a writer of 
books, who is no fan of the Rhodes because it does not look to his 
conventional eye like a good old sailboat should, but nevertheless had 
to write: "From the deep blue ocean to the shallow coves, the Rhodes 
covers it all". So thanks but please, no need for monetary 
contributions.? With my mind and body having started parting company in 
my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was the time I would 
drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then dash back to NY 
to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company? and turn right around and get 
it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.? And think nothing 
of it.? Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer up to that.

Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to 
complete this email of mine:

? * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/

While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for 
demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just 
as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should 
be subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.? We have 
a used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine 
commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy 
one that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later 
returned it to us saying it owed him nothing his having had such 
pleasure from it.? It needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.? Selling 
that one at the show has the great advantage of having one less Rhodes 
wannabe haunting me daily since the last show.? In addition to, or in 
place of, we do have a couple wanting to go larger (which we encourage, 
our experience being they will miss the Rhodes and buy another when 
downsizing). Their boat is said to be in nice shape and not far from the 
show but they have no trailer and we have a new one at the plant and 
they will be thrilled if we accidentally sell their Rhodes which has an 
electric out board.

.///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
/

If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny 
enough to go with that one.? Or, if we are taking the new trailer to 
pick up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.? 
Getting home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
//

? * /?"F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
? ? probably not the best option"/

Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.

/. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors 
about the Rhodes 22."/

One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my 
nineties I can't stop.? I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming 
from Canada.? Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the 
habit.? Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.? But anyone who wants to 
come to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up 
with all my stories, that is great with me.


Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.? I am still (even more 
so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment 
is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman 
ventured the problem is me.? And I think he may be right.? Like Groucho, 
I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.

thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining 
the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and 
Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the 
towel.? You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the 
wings at general boats.

stan


  

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 06:50:01 2022
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 06:50:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmmi5maHOnFKJ2oW1=bUX=DDHeGTq6wuWNCg8sPt742jgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris,
You will need to put the sails on the ground in order to add the telltales.
Remove the jib while the mast is still up. Do 2 sets of 3. The first set 12
to 18" from the luff, the second 3' or so to use when the jib is partially
furled.
Adding 4 to the leach is nice, but you would have to remove the sail from
the mast when on land. Peter Nyberg has a video on that. The main does not
need telltales on the luff.
-- 
JeffSmithPhoto.Net
www.JeffSmithPhoto.Net
11 Sixth Avenue
Atlantic Highlands, NJ  07716
732-236-1368

From cknell at vt.edu  Wed Sep 21 13:43:23 2022
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 13:43:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
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Jeff,

Thanks. That is helpful.

I guess I should have thought about telltales before I put the new sails 
on 2 seasons ago. Both were on the ground at that point.

Chris


On 9/21/2022 6:50 AM, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
> Hi Chris,
> You will need to put the sails on the ground in order to add the telltales.
> Remove the jib while the mast is still up. Do 2 sets of 3. The first set 12
> to 18" from the luff, the second 3' or so to use when the jib is partially
> furled.
> Adding 4 to the leach is nice, but you would have to remove the sail from
> the mast when on land. Peter Nyberg has a video on that. The main does not
> need telltales on the luff.


From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 15:10:11 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:10:11 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
In-Reply-To: <229577f8-21b9-bc79-03b3-7c334d4c4c41@vt.edu>
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Hi Chris,

I recently updated the telltales on my 130 Genoa.  My luff is 302.5" long.  Instead of the normal three sets of telltales, I put four sets of telltales at distances from the foot of 25", 75.6", 151.2", and 226.8".  I wanted a lower set that I could see from my usual helm position.  A picture is attached.  

The leading telltale in each row is 12" from the luff and the ones after that are 16" aft of the first.  The bottom row has three sets, the next two higher rows are two sets and the top is one set.  My single set of jib tracks limit the adjustment options, but at least I can get some idea of the wind flow over the sail.

My mainsail has two telltales at the leech.  


Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA





-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Chris on LBI
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 8:33 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales

Hey all,

I don't have any telltales on my sails. If I were to add them, where 
should they be located on each of the sails given that we frequently 
(but not always)  have both the 130 and mainsail partially furled? How 
have others added telltales given that a few of the recommended 
locations are pretty high above deck? (Unfurling the sails with the mast 
down is not something I can picture doing).

 From what I've been reading, three sets on the headsail seems to be 
recommended, but I'd probably need two sets of three to account for our 
most typical furling configuration. Is that right?

For the main, 4 leach positions seems to be the minimum recommended. Is 
this what other Rhodies have found works? If so, at what locations? Most 
of the literature suggests a telltale at each horizontal batten ... and 
of course we don't have any.

Do others have telltales up the luff of the main? If so, how far back 
are they positioned from the fully-unfurled luff? Are there multiple 
sets of luff telltales to allow for furling of the main?

Sorry for all the questions. Thanks in advance to anyone with input on 
this topic.

Chris
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 21 20:42:19 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 20:42:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <1860097875.264000.1663678144033@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
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Yes this is Stan, concentrated, distilled, and dare I say aged like if not
fine wine, maybe more like cheese.  Yes, Stan the big cheese.  I so wish I
could be there.

Chris G.
Xenos

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 8:49 AM david sempek via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> It is posts like this that makes me want to keep my Rhodes. My 1976 Rhodes
> 22 was found in an Iowa field. The interior was a pool complete with frogs
> and a few toads. One blown tire on the way home and many hours of
> fiberglassing, carpentry and refitting the little Rhodes is now a club
> favorite. Carry on General Boats.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 4:09 PM, stan<stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>  Dear Rhodies all,
>
> I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a bit
> where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97, stand
> and need to keep standing.
>
> What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do NOT
> need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes
> sells itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have
> fallen to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having
> been sold.  We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible
> asset; the best land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the
> nation, earned the hard way: By being at its very first show (where I
> believe Chris (G) became intrigued with our take on what a writer of
> books, who is no fan of the Rhodes because it does not look to his
> conventional eye like a good old sailboat should, but nevertheless had
> to write: "From the deep blue ocean to the shallow coves, the Rhodes
> covers it all". So thanks but please, no need for monetary
> contributions.  With my mind and body having started parting company in
> my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was the time I would
> drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then dash back to NY
> to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right around and get
> it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And think nothing
> of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer up to that.
>
> Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to
> complete this email of mine:
>
>   * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
>
> While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water for
> demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just
> as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should
> be subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have
> a used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine
> commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy
> one that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later
> returned it to us saying it owed him nothing his having had such
> pleasure from it.  It needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling
> that one at the show has the great advantage of having one less Rhodes
> wannabe haunting me daily since the last show.  In addition to, or in
> place of, we do have a couple wanting to go larger (which we encourage,
> our experience being they will miss the Rhodes and buy another when
> downsizing). Their boat is said to be in nice shape and not far from the
> show but they have no trailer and we have a new one at the plant and
> they will be thrilled if we accidentally sell their Rhodes which has an
> electric out board.
>
> .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
> /
>
> If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny
> enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to
> pick up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.
> Getting home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
> //
>
>   * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
>     probably not the best option"/
>
> Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
>
> /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors
> about the Rhodes 22."/
>
> One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In my
> nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming
> from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the
> habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to
> come to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up
> with all my stories, that is great with me.
>
>
> Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even more
> so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial investment
> is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill Wickman
> ventured the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like Groucho,
> I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
>
> thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining
> the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and
> Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the
> towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the
> wings at general boats.
>
> stan
>
>
>
>

From colealexander at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 22 21:52:20 2022
From: colealexander at hotmail.com (Alexander Cole)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 01:52:20 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
Message-ID: <CH2PR14MB399255D78514C19398B61885A6519@CH2PR14MB3992.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

I had a stupid attack after a cruise.    The cockpit cushions were scrubbed and placed on my roof rack to dry when I got home.    I unexpectedly needed to disconnect and use my boat hauler the next morning.   Yup, no coffee and now no cushions.    I found one in a ditch.     I?ve even checked all the dumpsters on my route. 
I know Stan is unreachable durning Annapolis and am unsure if he?s doing much anyway.    If anybody talks to him, can he sell me a new set?   They are very nice for full days without autopilot, and to hide my iPad navigation from the heat of the sun.   
If not, does anybody have ideas for ordering custom?    I lack the stern one for a template.  

Thanks, Alex


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Sep 23 15:49:06 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 12:49:06 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
Message-ID: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>

There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.  

Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.

There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.  

You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html

I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.

So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.

--Peter

From rnelson204 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 16:09:33 2022
From: rnelson204 at gmail.com (Rodney Brown)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 15:09:33 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <930F888E-834C-486E-8E0D-5C31049AAA18@gmail.com>

Wow! Thanks Mike! 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2022, at 14:49, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.  
> 
> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.
> 
> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.  
> 
> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
> 
> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.
> 
> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.
> 
> --Peter

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Fri Sep 23 16:17:21 2022
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:17:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <930F888E-834C-486E-8E0D-5C31049AAA18@gmail.com>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
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Message-ID: <4FA5677C-677F-4FCB-935C-9CEE8365DDC4@stottarchitecture.com>

Gotta love Rhodies and the organization. 
What a great crowd!
Thank you Mike 
Sail -on!
Ric 
Dadventure 
HBNY

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Rodney Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow! Thanks Mike! 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 14:49, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.  
>> 
>> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.
>> 
>> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.  
>> 
>> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
>> 
>> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.
>> 
>> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.
>> 
>> --Peter


From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 16:52:36 2022
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 15:52:36 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <4FA5677C-677F-4FCB-935C-9CEE8365DDC4@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
 <930F888E-834C-486E-8E0D-5C31049AAA18@gmail.com>
 <4FA5677C-677F-4FCB-935C-9CEE8365DDC4@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CAMc-3frJ7TZ32mR+iJH4UpSUTN0U-kjTb=bU4R8ESBErofad7A@mail.gmail.com>

Nice work, thanks!

Jesse
S/V Zephyr

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 3:17 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> Gotta love Rhodies and the organization.
> What a great crowd!
> Thank you Mike
> Sail -on!
> Ric
> Dadventure
> HBNY
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
> > On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Rodney Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow! Thanks Mike!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 23, 2022, at 14:49, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website
> document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of
> the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.
> >>
> >> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it
> upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert
> the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned
> the Word document into a PDF.
> >>
> >> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much
> smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is
> searchable.
> >>
> >> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
> >>
> >> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd
> forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to
> read it again this winter.
> >>
> >> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to
> Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the
> process except for writing this post.
> >>
> >> --Peter
>
>

From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 16:57:30 2022
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 16:57:30 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <4FA5677C-677F-4FCB-935C-9CEE8365DDC4@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
 <930F888E-834C-486E-8E0D-5C31049AAA18@gmail.com>
 <4FA5677C-677F-4FCB-935C-9CEE8365DDC4@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <1836DE05-4884-499D-9A13-3476C3E1BBD9@gmail.com>

Amen to that.  

Frank

> On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> Gotta love Rhodies and the organization. 
> What a great crowd!
> Thank you Mike 
> Sail -on!
> Ric 
> Dadventure 
> HBNY
> 
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 4:09 PM, Rodney Brown <rnelson204 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow! Thanks Mike! 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2022, at 14:49, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.  
>>> 
>>> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.
>>> 
>>> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.  
>>> 
>>> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
>>> 
>>> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.
>>> 
>>> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.
>>> 
>>> --Peter
> 


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 23 22:55:00 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 22:55:00 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiU6KEaHHMfbOib-tRQjpQ49nB5b-FbM3ceX+UMSM=RfbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mike!
Chris G
Xenos

On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 3:49 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website
> document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of
> the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.
>
> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it
> upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert
> the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned
> the Word document into a PDF.
>
> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much
> smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is
> searchable.
>
> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
>
> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten
> how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it
> again this winter.
>
> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to
> Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the
> process except for writing this post.
>
> --Peter
>

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 06:30:43 2022
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 06:30:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owners Manual
Message-ID: <CAM0HAm=1Q36TTw1ko_T9NrJXXwuzG1ftrKKCKZCU_cM7b-EL_w@mail.gmail.com>

Mike, You da Man!

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From bobfcohen at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 08:40:54 2022
From: bobfcohen at gmail.com (bobfcohen at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 08:40:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <007201d8d012$e3a7e6d0$aaf7b470$@gmail.com>

This is very helpful.  Thank you, Mike.
Bob Cohen
Silver Bay  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Peter Nyberg
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 3:49 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual

There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.  

Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.

There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.  

You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html

I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.

So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.

--Peter


From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Sep 24 18:11:24 2022
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:11:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <03b4474b-80fc-5724-1dcf-489ac5722989@generalboats.com>

Thanks Peter,

 ?I knew Mike was a tech genius just from our emails but my having gone 
to HS with the likes of Arthur Miller, Joseph Heller, Mel Brooks and 
others in that class, never had me thinking of myself as a well written 
writer.? You made my day thinking you thought the Rhodes manual well 
written.? If that were so I would have to credit inheriting any such 
skill from my daughter Cindy who is the pro in the family having written 
best seller Aftershock, Americas Bubble Economy, Fake Money/Real Danger 
and others.? Now you got me thinking; maybe I should bring out the R-27, 
long since designed but never put in production, give it away free and 
publish its manual with a 1K? cover charge.? (OK, maybe I should just 
stay with classmate Brooks as my role model.)

stan


On 9/23/22 3:49 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.
>
> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.
>
> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.
>
> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here:http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
>
> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual,/I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is. 
> I plan to find time to read it again this winter. /
> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.
>
> --Peter
> .

From stan at generalboats.com  Sat Sep 24 18:13:37 2022
From: stan at generalboats.com (stan)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:13:37 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <9f9ff97f-7514-b4c8-682d-e8aa3305b4d3@generalboats.com>

On 9/23/22 3:49 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.
>
> Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned the Word document into a PDF.
>
> There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.
>
> You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here: http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
>
> I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it again this winter.
>
> So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the process except for writing this post.
>
> --Peter
> .


From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Sat Sep 24 20:37:20 2022
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 20:37:20 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Updated Rhodes 22 Owner's Manual
In-Reply-To: <9f9ff97f-7514-b4c8-682d-e8aa3305b4d3@generalboats.com>
References: <E1obofa-004gnF-5g@s152.servername.online>
 <9f9ff97f-7514-b4c8-682d-e8aa3305b4d3@generalboats.com>
Message-ID: <CADNTwiVmM7tq8xyMxFXQHxDoyX4+EA0cU279FnUuPPvZFkzW6g@mail.gmail.com>

Screen play!  Oh and all the royalties with the action figures and
bobble heads!  Don't stop at  book!
Chris G
Xenos

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 6:13 PM stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:

> On 9/23/22 3:49 PM, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> > There's been a 2006 version of the Rhodes 22 owners manual in website
> document library, probably since around 2006.  It was a PDF with images of
> the manual's pages rather than the actual document text.
> >
> > Our own Michael McKay saw there was room for improvement, so he took it
> upon himself to put the page images through some OCR software to convert
> the images to text.  He put the text into a Word document, and then turned
> the Word document into a PDF.
> >
> > There are two primary advantages to the new format.  1) It is much
> smaller, so it will load in your browser more quickly.  2) It is searchable.
> >
> > You can find a link to the new Owner's Manual here:
> http://www.rhodes22.org/doc-lib.html
> >
> > I taking a look at the new Owner's Manual, I realized that I'd forgotten
> how well written and informative it is.  I plan to find time to read it
> again this winter.
> >
> > So, thanks to Mike McKay for making to changes to the document, and to
> Mike Weisner for making the changes to the website.  I had no hand in the
> process except for writing this post.
> >
> > --Peter
> > .
>
>

From cknell at vt.edu  Mon Sep 26 15:51:33 2022
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 15:51:33 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmmi5maHOnFKJ2oW1=bUX=DDHeGTq6wuWNCg8sPt742jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmmi5maHOnFKJ2oW1=bUX=DDHeGTq6wuWNCg8sPt742jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54598a5c-7f71-f304-948d-30f8b5432adc@vt.edu>


From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Mon Sep 26 21:19:43 2022
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:19:43 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Telltales
In-Reply-To: <54598a5c-7f71-f304-948d-30f8b5432adc@vt.edu>
References: <CAM0HAmmi5maHOnFKJ2oW1=bUX=DDHeGTq6wuWNCg8sPt742jgQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <54598a5c-7f71-f304-948d-30f8b5432adc@vt.edu>
Message-ID: <CY8PR10MB66836B205192A098F52D125480559@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All, 
The October, 2022 issue of Practical Sailer magazine, Vol 48, No 10 has a big article of the use and placement of jib telltales with furling sails.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Chris on LBI <cknell at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
> ?

From bgarrant at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 12:47:43 2022
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 12:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?b?U2hlYXZlICg/KSBmb3IgUnVkZGVyIOKAmHB1?=
	=?utf-8?q?ll-down=E2=80=99?=
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The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know
where I can find a replacement for this.

I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull down
the rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the
water. The red line pulls it down.

See attached pictures.
Thanks,
Bob Garrant
Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
Kent Island, MD
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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Sep 27 16:32:53 2022
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 13:32:53 -0700
Subject: Sheave (?) for Rudder ‘pull-down’
Message-ID: <E1odHG9-00Ggc2-4S@s152.servername.online>

Bob,

The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats, so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only option would be to make your own.

--Peter 

> On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
>
> The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know where I 
> can find a replacement for this. 
> 
> I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull down the 
> rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water. The red 
> line pulls it down. 
> 
> See attached pictures.
> Thanks,
> Bob Garrant
> Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> Kent Island, MD
> 
> <a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe" 
> target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a> 
> 
> <a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe" 
> target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a> 
> 


From stevenalm at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 16:59:25 2022
From: stevenalm at gmail.com (Steven Alm)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 15:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?b?U2hlYXZlICg/KSBmb3IgUnVkZGVyIOKAmHB1?=
	=?utf-8?q?ll-down=E2=80=99?=
In-Reply-To: <E1odHG9-00Ggc2-4S@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1odHG9-00Ggc2-4S@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <CANtNeFCk8jCXwLL5GTK0R+5FEu6AyqWN1FG7fUOSxqtO7DKoWA@mail.gmail.com>

I?ve used ?lance cleats? you find for Hobie Cats. They?re small enough to
break away if you run aground with your rudder ? happened to me only once
in 25 years and cheap enough to replace if that happens. Otherwise it hold
the rudder down and very easy to use.

https://westcoastsailing.net/lance-cleat-starboard-1/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElZHTvQb62kFK-pTRW9zsJvcfROJBJtDEb61AmrqISB1E4O8EU3w1QRoCpaAQAvD_BwE



On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats,
> so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement
> part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only
> option would be to make your own.
>
> --Peter
>
> > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> >
> > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know
> where I
> > can find a replacement for this.
> >
> > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull
> down the
> > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water.
> The red
> > line pulls it down.
> >
> > See attached pictures.
> > Thanks,
> > Bob Garrant
> > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> > <a
> > href="
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe"
>
> > target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a>
> >
> > <a
> > href="
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe"
>
> > target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a>
> >
>
>

From jose.faraldo at gmail.com  Tue Sep 27 17:02:04 2022
From: jose.faraldo at gmail.com (Jose Faraldo-Gomez)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 17:02:04 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?b?U2hlYXZlICg/KSBmb3IgUnVkZGVyIOKAmHB1?=
	=?utf-8?q?ll-down=E2=80=99?=
In-Reply-To: <E1odHG9-00Ggc2-4S@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1odHG9-00Ggc2-4S@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <FB8BDD05-9CB4-49D8-A484-35783E8E468D@gmail.com>

Bob,

In my opinion your best bet will be to find a plastic fabrication company with experience working with marine grade Starboard (or similar) to recreate this piece - unless you can do it yourself. Last year I had to replace the side panels in that rudder head assembly - after spending too much time exploring other alternatives I ultimately had them made at Precision Plastics in Beltsville MD, which isn?t too far from you. They did a great job, based off the old panels; the job took them about a week. 

Hope that helps 

Jose

> On Sep 27, 2022, at 4:33 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Bob,
> 
> The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats, so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only option would be to make your own.
> 
> --Peter 
> 
>> On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
>> 
>> The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know where I 
>> can find a replacement for this. 
>> 
>> I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
>> It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull down the 
>> rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water. The red 
>> line pulls it down. 
>> 
>> See attached pictures.
>> Thanks,
>> Bob Garrant
>> Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
>> Kent Island, MD
>> 
>> <a 
>> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe" 
>> target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a> 
>> 
>> <a 
>> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe" 
>> target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a> 
>> 
> 

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue Sep 27 18:50:47 2022
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:50:47 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
	=?windows-1252?q?Sheave_=28=3F=29_for_Rudder_=91p?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ull-down=92?=
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Bob,

Have you checked the Rhodes Owner?s Coop website?  ( www.rhodes22parts.com<http://www.rhodes22parts.com> )

PART NO        DESCRIPTION
GB62          RUDDER CLUTCH PARTS other than knob.

GB63          RUDDER CLUTCH KNOB tensions blade for remaining

                    fully lowered yet retracts on encountering anything.

GB64           AFT RUDDER HEAD CLEAT for holding blade up at any

                    angle.  Good for sculling.
GB65          SET OF RUDDER BLADE CONTROL LINES

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

From: Peter Nyberg<mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:33 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: Sheave (?) for Rudder ?pull-down?

Bob,

The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats, so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only option would be to make your own.

--Peter

> On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
>
> The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know where I
> can find a replacement for this.
>
> I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull down the
> rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water. The red
> line pulls it down.
>
> See attached pictures.
> Thanks,
> Bob Garrant
> Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> Kent Island, MD
>
> <a
> href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20220927%2F1b43f6b9%2Fattachment.jpe&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7Cb7dbf5b4b4594cebb67308daa0c779b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637999075901605768%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=oWz9f9Noq6UD7%2BuMTzWMg%2BoBbSylII4UlSzh5pDSNaQ%3D&amp;reserved=0"
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>
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>


From rweiss at siu.edu  Tue Sep 27 18:56:10 2022
From: rweiss at siu.edu (Weiss, Robert L)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 22:56:10 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list]
	=?windows-1252?q?Sheave_=28=3F=29_for_Rudder_=91p?=
	=?windows-1252?q?ull-down=92?=
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If you want parts, contact Charles Gabriel directly. He helps Stan with parts. That is how I got my new outhaul car very quickly.
charles.gabriel at gmail.com

Bob

Robert L Weiss Jr.
Director of Music
First United Methodist Carbondale, IL
Professor Emeritus, SIUC
________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 5:50 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheave (?) for Rudder ?pull-down?

[EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments.

Bob,

Have you checked the Rhodes Owner?s Coop website?  ( https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22parts.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C8ba74fdc4c354dfa951108daa0dab9bf%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637999158648290299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=sKfAJ%2BzPbKVwK16hXE%2F3q7U3ZltTZqsmUYY6foUmyuI%3D&amp;reserved=0<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22parts.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C8ba74fdc4c354dfa951108daa0dab9bf%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637999158648290299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=sKfAJ%2BzPbKVwK16hXE%2F3q7U3ZltTZqsmUYY6foUmyuI%3D&amp;reserved=0> )

PART NO        DESCRIPTION
GB62          RUDDER CLUTCH PARTS other than knob.

GB63          RUDDER CLUTCH KNOB tensions blade for remaining

                    fully lowered yet retracts on encountering anything.

GB64           AFT RUDDER HEAD CLEAT for holding blade up at any

                    angle.  Good for sculling.
GB65          SET OF RUDDER BLADE CONTROL LINES

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C8ba74fdc4c354dfa951108daa0dab9bf%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637999158648290299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=JboeDRLnvG4CEJGtM9LiBQqTcw%2FNU31ND%2BHXfh1CNkI%3D&amp;reserved=0> for Windows

From: Peter Nyberg<mailto:peter at sunnybeeches.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 1:33 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: Sheave (?) for Rudder ?pull-down?

Bob,

The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats, so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only option would be to make your own.

--Peter

> On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
>
> The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know where I
> can find a replacement for this.
>
> I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull down the
> rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water. The red
> line pulls it down.
>
> See attached pictures.
> Thanks,
> Bob Garrant
> Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> Kent Island, MD
>
> <a
> href="https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20220927%2F1b43f6b9%2Fattachment.jpe&amp;data=05%7C01%7Crweiss%40siu.edu%7C8ba74fdc4c354dfa951108daa0dab9bf%7Cd57a98e7744d43f9bc9108de1ff3710d%7C0%7C0%7C637999158648290299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=gWreo0S4cYxJ326XgYBL%2FiaUA5TtyjFICD059WoEgho%3D&amp;reserved=0"
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From bgarrant at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 11:21:29 2022
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 11:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?b?U2hlYXZlICg/KSBmb3IgUnVkZGVyIOKAmHB1?=
	=?utf-8?q?ll-down=E2=80=99?=
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Thanks Peter
That helps me so i can stop Searching on the Internet for one of these
writers with the part I need.
Much appreciated, Bob

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats,
> so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement
> part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only
> option would be to make your own.
>
> --Peter
>
> > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> >
> > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know
> where I
> > can find a replacement for this.
> >
> > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull
> down the
> > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the water.
> The red
> > line pulls it down.
> >
> > See attached pictures.
> > Thanks,
> > Bob Garrant
> > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > Kent Island, MD
> >
> > <a
> > href="
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> >
>
>

From mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 12:18:35 2022
From: mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com (mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 12:18:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
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Alex,

I recently replaced both my cockpit cushions.  After checking with Stan for a source (which he was not able to provide), I got a local auto/marine upholstery shop to make them to my specifications.  I supplied them with the materials (from Sailrite) which consisted of:

CushionRite Dry Fast Antimicrobial Open Cell Foam (water pours right through this.)  I got mine in 2" thick firm and they are comfortable.  Sailrite has this in a 48" x 80" size which would make 2 cushions.  Make sure you get the Dry Fast version.  My previous cushions were closed cell foam which I would have slightly preferred but I had trouble finding that in the right size.
Phyfertex standard vinyl mesh fabric on top and sides (8 yards @ 54" wide).  Of course, Sunbrella or any other outdoor fabric would be fine.
Naugahyde vinyl welting (64')
YKK #5 plastic zippers (package of 5 pulls and 15' of continuous chain)
Super Grip Nonslip Cushion Underlining Black (2 yards @ 54").  This perforated sticky rubberized material is on the underside of the cushions and prevents them from sliding off the seats when heeling.  

As a rule of thumb, you need to allow an extra 3" for each seam and don't forget to add the side panels to your calculations.

Materials cost for two cushions was about $500 and my shop charged me about $100 each for the labor so the total was about $350 for each cushion. If you go this route, make sure your shop understands that these cushions are not rectangular--one end needs to be narrower than the other and that they need to be mirror images.  My shop got it wrong the first time even though I gave them the old one to match!

Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Alexander Cole
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:52 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

I had a stupid attack after a cruise.    The cockpit cushions were scrubbed and placed on my roof rack to dry when I got home.    I unexpectedly needed to disconnect and use my boat hauler the next morning.   Yup, no coffee and now no cushions.    I found one in a ditch.     I?ve even checked all the dumpsters on my route. 
I know Stan is unreachable durning Annapolis and am unsure if he?s doing much anyway.    If anybody talks to him, can he sell me a new set?   They are very nice for full days without autopilot, and to hide my iPad navigation from the heat of the sun.   
If not, does anybody have ideas for ordering custom?    I lack the stern one for a template.  

Thanks, Alex



From jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 12:55:08 2022
From: jesse.laten.shumaker at gmail.com (Jesse Shumaker)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 11:55:08 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
In-Reply-To: <165c01d8d41f$209092d0$61b1b870$@gmail.com>
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I had a local sailor (who handles upholstery and is also a sail maker) make
3" high cockpit cushions for me and I was happy with how they turned out.
They make all the difference in comfort while sailing.  I applied some
non-stick shelving liner on the bottom of the cushions with double sided
tape to keep them from sliding while heeling and that works well.  If you
would like to contact Steve, who made my cushions, you can reach him at
cptnhosch [at] yahoo.com.  He could mail cushions to wherever.

Jesse Shumaker
S/V Zephyr

On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:18 AM <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Alex,
>
> I recently replaced both my cockpit cushions.  After checking with Stan
> for a source (which he was not able to provide), I got a local auto/marine
> upholstery shop to make them to my specifications.  I supplied them with
> the materials (from Sailrite) which consisted of:
>
> CushionRite Dry Fast Antimicrobial Open Cell Foam (water pours right
> through this.)  I got mine in 2" thick firm and they are comfortable.
> Sailrite has this in a 48" x 80" size which would make 2 cushions.  Make
> sure you get the Dry Fast version.  My previous cushions were closed cell
> foam which I would have slightly preferred but I had trouble finding that
> in the right size.
> Phyfertex standard vinyl mesh fabric on top and sides (8 yards @ 54"
> wide).  Of course, Sunbrella or any other outdoor fabric would be fine.
> Naugahyde vinyl welting (64')
> YKK #5 plastic zippers (package of 5 pulls and 15' of continuous chain)
> Super Grip Nonslip Cushion Underlining Black (2 yards @ 54").  This
> perforated sticky rubberized material is on the underside of the cushions
> and prevents them from sliding off the seats when heeling.
>
> As a rule of thumb, you need to allow an extra 3" for each seam and don't
> forget to add the side panels to your calculations.
>
> Materials cost for two cushions was about $500 and my shop charged me
> about $100 each for the labor so the total was about $350 for each cushion.
> If you go this route, make sure your shop understands that these cushions
> are not rectangular--one end needs to be narrower than the other and that
> they need to be mirror images.  My shop got it wrong the first time even
> though I gave them the old one to match!
>
> Mike McKay
> s/v Liber (2006/2018)
> Allatoona Lake
> Acworth, GA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> Alexander Cole
> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:52 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
>
> I had a stupid attack after a cruise.    The cockpit cushions were
> scrubbed and placed on my roof rack to dry when I got home.    I
> unexpectedly needed to disconnect and use my boat hauler the next morning.
>  Yup, no coffee and now no cushions.    I found one in a ditch.     I?ve
> even checked all the dumpsters on my route.
> I know Stan is unreachable durning Annapolis and am unsure if he?s doing
> much anyway.    If anybody talks to him, can he sell me a new set?   They
> are very nice for full days without autopilot, and to hide my iPad
> navigation from the heat of the sun.
> If not, does anybody have ideas for ordering custom?    I lack the stern
> one for a template.
>
> Thanks, Alex
>
>
>

From oehecht at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 13:35:56 2022
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 13:35:56 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
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References: <0c6501d8cc40$48a33b60$d9e9b220$@gmail.com>
 <2b28a04f-c38b-d18c-931f-cc49a5e4cfb0@generalboats.com>
 <66BC8CCE-956C-4EC5-BCEA-4FE058151C47@tds.net>
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Not sure what the latest is for the show. I moved Fretless to Edgewater
last weekend but still need to step the mast, replace the fuel pump and
prop?both of the parts will be here this week. And she?s filthy?hoping to
get a test sail in soon?she?s missed this entire season!

On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 6:44 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, great to hear from you Stan!  I?m in the process of moving Fretless
> from Richmond to the Annapolis area - this weekend is actually the planned
> date for me to finally go get her. I was planning to sail her north but
> that might be too complicated at this point and I?ll probably tow her up
> here on Saturday.
>
> I?m just not sure she?s in any condition for the show?maybe she can be in
> the water for demos if I get her ready in time. She?s needs some work - I
> barely sailed her at all last season and she?s been sitting this entire
> season so far as we were in the process of moving between April and July
> and I just haven?t been able to spend time with/on her.
>
> Hopefully she?ll be in the Edgewater area later this weekend and I?ll keep
> the group posted about her condition in case she can be useful.
>
> Olivier
> s/v Fretless
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 5:34 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:
>
>> Yeah !
>>
>>  That sounds like the Stan we all love.
>>  Have a great Show.
>>
>> Graham Parker
>> sv ?00Sailin?
>> Vermont
>>
>> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Rhodies all,
>> >
>> > I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a
>> bit where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97,
>> stand and need to keep standing.
>> >
>> > What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do
>> NOT need are more sales.  As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes
>> sells itself.  But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen
>> to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.
>> We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best
>> land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the
>> hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became
>> intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the
>> Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old
>> sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean
>> to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no
>> need for monetary contributions.  With my mind and body having started
>> parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was
>> the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then
>> dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company  and turn right
>> around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.  And
>> think nothing of it.  Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer
>> up to that.
>> >
>> > Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to
>> complete this email of mine:
>> >
>> > * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/
>> >
>> > While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water
>> for demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just
>> as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be
>> subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.  We have a
>> used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine
>> commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one
>> that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to
>> us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.  It
>> needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.  Selling that one at the show has
>> the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily
>> since the last show.  In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple
>> wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will
>> miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be
>> in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we
>> have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally
>> sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.
>> >
>> > .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.
>> > /
>> >
>> > If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny
>> enough to go with that one.  Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick
>> up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.  Getting
>> home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.
>> > //
>> >
>> > * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is
>> >   probably not the best option"/
>> >
>> > Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.
>> >
>> > /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors
>> about the Rhodes 22."/
>> >
>> > One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In
>> my nineties I can't stop.  I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming
>> from Canada.  Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the
>> habit.  Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.  But anyone who wants to come
>> to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with
>> all my stories, that is great with me.
>> >
>> >
>> > Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.  I am still (even
>> more so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial
>> investment is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill
>> Wickman ventured the problem is me.  And I think he may be right.  Like
>> Groucho, I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.
>> >
>> > thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining
>> the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and
>> Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the
>> towel.  You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings
>> at general boats.
>> >
>> > stan
>> >
>> >
>>
>>

From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Sep 29 16:03:42 2022
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 16:03:42 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
In-Reply-To: <165c01d8d41f$209092d0$61b1b870$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <002201d8d43e$93029330$b907b990$@cogeco.ca>

I got my new cabin cushions here and was quite satisfied with both price and quality. You can specify the fabric and interior with a considerably large number of options. When my cushions arrived one of the cushions had the zipper on the wrong side. They replaced the entire cushion immediately.


Graham Stewart
Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
Kingston Ontario








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 12:19 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

Alex,

I recently replaced both my cockpit cushions.  After checking with Stan for a source (which he was not able to provide), I got a local auto/marine upholstery shop to make them to my specifications.  I supplied them with the materials (from Sailrite) which consisted of:

CushionRite Dry Fast Antimicrobial Open Cell Foam (water pours right through this.)  I got mine in 2" thick firm and they are comfortable.  Sailrite has this in a 48" x 80" size which would make 2 cushions.  Make sure you get the Dry Fast version.  My previous cushions were closed cell foam which I would have slightly preferred but I had trouble finding that in the right size.
Phyfertex standard vinyl mesh fabric on top and sides (8 yards @ 54" wide).  Of course, Sunbrella or any other outdoor fabric would be fine.
Naugahyde vinyl welting (64')
YKK #5 plastic zippers (package of 5 pulls and 15' of continuous chain) Super Grip Nonslip Cushion Underlining Black (2 yards @ 54").  This perforated sticky rubberized material is on the underside of the cushions and prevents them from sliding off the seats when heeling.  

As a rule of thumb, you need to allow an extra 3" for each seam and don't forget to add the side panels to your calculations.

Materials cost for two cushions was about $500 and my shop charged me about $100 each for the labor so the total was about $350 for each cushion. If you go this route, make sure your shop understands that these cushions are not rectangular--one end needs to be narrower than the other and that they need to be mirror images.  My shop got it wrong the first time even though I gave them the old one to match!

Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Alexander Cole
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:52 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

I had a stupid attack after a cruise.    The cockpit cushions were scrubbed and placed on my roof rack to dry when I got home.    I unexpectedly needed to disconnect and use my boat hauler the next morning.   Yup, no coffee and now no cushions.    I found one in a ditch.     I?ve even checked all the dumpsters on my route. 
I know Stan is unreachable durning Annapolis and am unsure if he?s doing much anyway.    If anybody talks to him, can he sell me a new set?   They are very nice for full days without autopilot, and to hide my iPad navigation from the heat of the sun.   
If not, does anybody have ideas for ordering custom?    I lack the stern one for a template.  

Thanks, Alex



From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 29 16:23:06 2022
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 16:23:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page
In-Reply-To: <CAGUHJmToXQnNjbG8Dev_iY2-JnYi8Qo+4=Nn8PVLZeWJA_fiqg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6335fecd.e90a0220.a6632.13ec@mx.google.com>

Show boat? Is Stan seriously looking for a display boat? We're thinking of putting Respite up for sale. Here she is in July with poptop enclosure. Don't think k we have enough time to make it work.Joe DempseySV RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> Date: 9/29/22  1:36 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Stan's Go Fund Me page Not sure what the latest is for the show. I moved Fretless to Edgewaterlast weekend but still need to step the mast, replace the fuel pump andprop?both of the parts will be here this week. And she?s filthy?hoping toget a test sail in soon?she?s missed this entire season!On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 6:44 PM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:> Wow, great to hear from you Stan!? I?m in the process of moving Fretless> from Richmond to the Annapolis area - this weekend is actually the planned> date for me to finally go get her. I was planning to sail her north but> that might be too complicated at this point and I?ll probably tow her up> here on Saturday.>> I?m just not sure she?s in any condition for the show?maybe she can be in> the water for demos if I get her ready in time. She?s needs some work - I> barely sailed her at all last season and she?s been sitting this entire> season so far as we were in the process of moving between April and July> and I just haven?t been able to spend time with/on her.>> Hopefully she?ll be in the Edgewater area later this weekend and I?ll keep> the group posted about her condition in case she can be useful.>> Olivier> s/v Fretless>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 5:34 PM Graham Parker <gramille at tds.net> wrote:>>> Yeah !>>>>? That sounds like the Stan we all love.>>? Have a great Show.>>>> Graham Parker>> sv ?00Sailin?>> Vermont>>>> > On Sep 19, 2022, at 17:08, stan <stan at generalboats.com> wrote:>> >>> > Dear Rhodies all,>> >>> > I am deeply touched by the concerns and offers but let me clear up a>> bit where general boats, now pushing 65, and founder stan, pushing 97,>> stand and need to keep standing.>> >>> > What the company and its combination chief cook and bottle washer do>> NOT need are more sales.? As many of you know and point out, the Rhodes>> sells itself.? But alas, it can't build itself and deliveries have fallen>> to zero, everything that could manage to be sailed, now having been sold.>> We go to the show so as not to lose our largest intangible asset; the best>> land exhibit location at the # 1 sailboat show in the nation, earned the>> hard way: By being at its very first show (where I believe Chris (G) became>> intrigued with our take on what a writer of books, who is no fan of the>> Rhodes because it does not look to his conventional eye like a good old>> sailboat should, but nevertheless had to write: "From the deep blue ocean>> to the shallow coves, the Rhodes covers it all". So thanks but please, no>> need for monetary contributions.? With my mind and body having started>> parting company in my nineties what we need is physical help. (there was>> the time I would drive a Rhodes to the Chicago Show, set it up and then>> dash back to NY to pick up a Catalina 22 for that company? and turn right>> around and get it set up in our Chi space before calling it a day.? And>> think nothing of it.? Hate to face it but the body tells me I am no longer>> up to that.>> >>> > Thoughtful email from Mike just hit my inbox so I will go with it to>> complete this email of mine:>> >>> > * /"//Find a boat to exhibit at the show."/>> >>> > While we usually have 3 boats in our land space and one in the water>> for demo sails, I would be delighted to settle for 2 boats on land and just>> as delighted to settle for only one. I don't think an owners boat should be>> subject to that traffic plus it might accidentally get sold.? We have a>> used Rhodes at the plant that was donated to us by a USN submarine>> commander who when he had enough of underwater boating elected to buy one>> that can't sink so bought a Rhodes at a show and years later returned it to>> us saying it owed him nothing his having had such pleasure from it.? It>> needs a day or two of in cabin carpentry.? Selling that one at the show has>> the great advantage of having one less Rhodes wannabe haunting me daily>> since the last show.? In addition to, or in place of, we do have a couple>> wanting to go larger (which we encourage, our experience being they will>> miss the Rhodes and buy another when downsizing). Their boat is said to be>> in nice shape and not far from the show but they have no trailer and we>> have a new one at the plant and they will be thrilled if we accidentally>> sell their Rhodes which has an electric out board.>> >>> > .///"Arrange transportation for you to and from the show.>> > />> >>> > If we did manage to take the boat at the plant to the show I am skinny>> enough to go with that one.? Or, if we are taking the new trailer to pick>> up Jose's boat I can be strapped to the trailer if no room in car.? Getting>> home is a decision I can put off 'til after show.>> > //>> >>> > * / "F//ind convenient accommodations for you?sleeping on the boat is>> >?? probably not the best option"/>> >>> > Not needed. Living on board at show is normal for me.>> >>> > /. //"Organize support from Rhodies at the show to talk with visitors>> about the Rhodes 22."/>> >>> > One of my quips has been I did not start talking 'til my thirties; In>> my nineties I can't stop.? I can handle this, plus Phil and Dawn are coming>> from Canada.? Phil has been coming for so many years he can't break the>> habit.? Plus I look forward to meeting Dawn.? But anyone who wants to come>> to a 'Rhodes Class' reunion, meet each other, sell boats and put up with>> all my stories, that is great with me.>> >>> >>> > Now I would like to do a brief bit of networking.? I am still (even>> more so) in the market for partnering, not investors, no financial>> investment is wanted. The stream of candidates has been impressive, Bill>> Wickman ventured the problem is me.? And I think he may be right.? Like>> Groucho, I am nervous in going with anyone who would have me as a partner.>> >>> > thanks again for all your interests in keeping the Rhodes from joining>> the giants of this misguided industry like the O'Days and Hunters and>> Gulfstars whose banks had to tell them when it was time to throw in the>> towel.? You haven't seen anything 'til you see what is brewing in the wings>> at general boats.>> >>> > stan>> >>> >>>>>
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From gstewart8 at cogeco.ca  Thu Sep 29 23:48:40 2022
From: gstewart8 at cogeco.ca (Graham Stewart)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 23:48:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan
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I forgot to include the URL for the cushion source I mentioned. https://www.cushionsource.com/

Graham Stewart
Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
Kingston Ontario








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Graham Stewart
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 4:04 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

I got my new cabin cushions here and was quite satisfied with both price and quality. You can specify the fabric and interior with a considerably large number of options. When my cushions arrived one of the cushions had the zipper on the wrong side. They replaced the entire cushion immediately.


Graham Stewart
Agile, Rodes 22, 1976
Kingston Ontario








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 12:19 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List' <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

Alex,

I recently replaced both my cockpit cushions.  After checking with Stan for a source (which he was not able to provide), I got a local auto/marine upholstery shop to make them to my specifications.  I supplied them with the materials (from Sailrite) which consisted of:

CushionRite Dry Fast Antimicrobial Open Cell Foam (water pours right through this.)  I got mine in 2" thick firm and they are comfortable.  Sailrite has this in a 48" x 80" size which would make 2 cushions.  Make sure you get the Dry Fast version.  My previous cushions were closed cell foam which I would have slightly preferred but I had trouble finding that in the right size.
Phyfertex standard vinyl mesh fabric on top and sides (8 yards @ 54" wide).  Of course, Sunbrella or any other outdoor fabric would be fine.
Naugahyde vinyl welting (64')
YKK #5 plastic zippers (package of 5 pulls and 15' of continuous chain) Super Grip Nonslip Cushion Underlining Black (2 yards @ 54").  This perforated sticky rubberized material is on the underside of the cushions and prevents them from sliding off the seats when heeling.  

As a rule of thumb, you need to allow an extra 3" for each seam and don't forget to add the side panels to your calculations.

Materials cost for two cushions was about $500 and my shop charged me about $100 each for the labor so the total was about $350 for each cushion. If you go this route, make sure your shop understands that these cushions are not rectangular--one end needs to be narrower than the other and that they need to be mirror images.  My shop got it wrong the first time even though I gave them the old one to match!

Mike McKay
s/v Liber (2006/2018)
Allatoona Lake
Acworth, GA








-----Original Message-----
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Alexander Cole
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 9:52 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cushions and Stan

I had a stupid attack after a cruise.    The cockpit cushions were scrubbed and placed on my roof rack to dry when I got home.    I unexpectedly needed to disconnect and use my boat hauler the next morning.   Yup, no coffee and now no cushions.    I found one in a ditch.     I?ve even checked all the dumpsters on my route. 
I know Stan is unreachable durning Annapolis and am unsure if he?s doing much anyway.    If anybody talks to him, can he sell me a new set?   They are very nice for full days without autopilot, and to hide my iPad navigation from the heat of the sun.   
If not, does anybody have ideas for ordering custom?    I lack the stern one for a template.  

Thanks, Alex



From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 05:37:26 2022
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 05:37:26 -0400
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Thanks for that link Steve! My cleat was on the way out, and I didn't know
what it was called or how to order. It is now on the way.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From bgarrant at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 11:24:25 2022
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 11:24:25 -0400
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Hi Steve
This looks like it may work well. I was concerned about ?locking? down the
rudder because of potential damage from hitting something.
Bob

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:59 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I?ve used ?lance cleats? you find for Hobie Cats. They?re small enough to
> break away if you run aground with your rudder ? happened to me only once
> in 25 years and cheap enough to replace if that happens. Otherwise it hold
> the rudder down and very easy to use.
>
>
> https://westcoastsailing.net/lance-cleat-starboard-1/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElZHTvQb62kFK-pTRW9zsJvcfROJBJtDEb61AmrqISB1E4O8EU3w1QRoCpaAQAvD_BwE
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General Boats,
> > so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement
> > part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only
> > option would be to make your own.
> >
> > --Peter
> >
> > > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > >
> > > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone know
> > where I
> > > can find a replacement for this.
> > >
> > > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to pull
> > down the
> > > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the
> water.
> > The red
> > > line pulls it down.
> > >
> > > See attached pictures.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Bob Garrant
> > > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > > Kent Island, MD
> > >
> > > <a
> > > href="
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe
> "
> >
> > > target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a>
> > >
> > > <a
> > > href="
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe
> "
> >
> > > target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a>
> > >
> >
> >
>

From colealexander at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 30 13:07:32 2022
From: colealexander at hotmail.com (Alexander Cole)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 17:07:32 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Re Cushions and Stan.
Message-ID: <CH2PR14MB39925E793B2DADAA855C61ADA6569@CH2PR14MB3992.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks for the fabric and cushion advice.   It was a big help.   The local shop only does car cushions, only if he feels like it.   Mail order or an hour drive seem like the only options, so you guys were a big help.   Does anybody have advice for making a template for the back cushion?   Do I just size it half an inch smaller then the real space to allow for fabric?   I asked Stan to provide a CAD to the owner's group, but it sounds like he doesn't have one??

Alex.

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 13:07:44 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 13:07:44 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] =?utf-8?b?U2hlYXZlICg/KSBmb3IgUnVkZGVyIOKAmHB1?=
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Bob, you can also buy a break-away clam cleat. You can set the break away
pressure.
I have one somewhere in a boat hardware bin somewhere in the garage. I'll
look for it and send a picture or a link.

Todd T.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 11:24 AM Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve
> This looks like it may work well. I was concerned about ?locking? down the
> rudder because of potential damage from hitting something.
> Bob
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:59 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I?ve used ?lance cleats? you find for Hobie Cats. They?re small enough to
> > break away if you run aground with your rudder ? happened to me only once
> > in 25 years and cheap enough to replace if that happens. Otherwise it
> hold
> > the rudder down and very easy to use.
> >
> >
> >
> https://westcoastsailing.net/lance-cleat-starboard-1/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElZHTvQb62kFK-pTRW9zsJvcfROJBJtDEb61AmrqISB1E4O8EU3w1QRoCpaAQAvD_BwE
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General
> Boats,
> > > so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement
> > > part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your only
> > > option would be to make your own.
> > >
> > > --Peter
> > >
> > > > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone
> know
> > > where I
> > > > can find a replacement for this.
> > > >
> > > > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > > > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to
> pull
> > > down the
> > > > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the
> > water.
> > > The red
> > > > line pulls it down.
> > > >
> > > > See attached pictures.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bob Garrant
> > > > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > > > Kent Island, MD
> > > >
> > > > <a
> > > > href="
> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe
> > "
> > >
> > > > target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a>
> > > >
> > > > <a
> > > > href="
> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe
> > "
> > >
> > > > target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

From bgarrant at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 13:22:52 2022
From: bgarrant at gmail.com (Bob Garrant)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 13:22:52 -0400
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Thanks Todd

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 1:07 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bob, you can also buy a break-away clam cleat. You can set the break away
> pressure.
> I have one somewhere in a boat hardware bin somewhere in the garage. I'll
> look for it and send a picture or a link.
>
> Todd T.
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 11:24 AM Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve
> > This looks like it may work well. I was concerned about ?locking? down
> the
> > rudder because of potential damage from hitting something.
> > Bob
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:59 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I?ve used ?lance cleats? you find for Hobie Cats. They?re small enough
> to
> > > break away if you run aground with your rudder ? happened to me only
> once
> > > in 25 years and cheap enough to replace if that happens. Otherwise it
> > hold
> > > the rudder down and very easy to use.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://westcoastsailing.net/lance-cleat-starboard-1/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElZHTvQb62kFK-pTRW9zsJvcfROJBJtDEb61AmrqISB1E4O8EU3w1QRoCpaAQAvD_BwE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bob,
> > > >
> > > > The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General
> > Boats,
> > > > so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a replacement
> > > > part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your
> only
> > > > option would be to make your own.
> > > >
> > > > --Peter
> > > >
> > > > > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone
> > know
> > > > where I
> > > > > can find a replacement for this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > > > > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to
> > pull
> > > > down the
> > > > > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the
> > > water.
> > > > The red
> > > > > line pulls it down.
> > > > >
> > > > > See attached pictures.
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Bob Garrant
> > > > > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > > > > Kent Island, MD
> > > > >
> > > > > <a
> > > > > href="
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment.jpe
> > > "
> > > >
> > > > > target="_blank">image_67144449.JPG</a>
> > > > >
> > > > > <a
> > > > > href="
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20220927/1b43f6b9/attachment-0001.jpe
> > > "
> > > >
> > > > > target="_blank">image_67181825.JPG</a>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From tavares0947 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 30 13:34:02 2022
From: tavares0947 at gmail.com (Todd Tavares)
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 13:34:02 -0400
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Bob
I sent some pics but the file or email was too large to send. I bought this
on the recommendation of other Rhodies a few years ago but never installed
it yet, so I can not give you a performance review. They are available on
ebay for half of what West Marine is charging.

https://www.westmarine.com/sea-dog-auto-release-rudder-cleat-1158443.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwp9qZBhBkEiwAsYFsbyqmemthxixVV44u-kXUlPVhlULjxdETCB7HLbWI7FKOdqQFecUbnxoCvcUQAvD_BwE

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 1:23 PM Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Todd
>
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 1:07 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Bob, you can also buy a break-away clam cleat. You can set the break away
> > pressure.
> > I have one somewhere in a boat hardware bin somewhere in the garage. I'll
> > look for it and send a picture or a link.
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 11:24 AM Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Steve
> > > This looks like it may work well. I was concerned about ?locking? down
> > the
> > > rudder because of potential damage from hitting something.
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:59 PM Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I?ve used ?lance cleats? you find for Hobie Cats. They?re small
> enough
> > to
> > > > break away if you run aground with your rudder ? happened to me only
> > once
> > > > in 25 years and cheap enough to replace if that happens. Otherwise it
> > > hold
> > > > the rudder down and very easy to use.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://westcoastsailing.net/lance-cleat-starboard-1/?gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElZHTvQb62kFK-pTRW9zsJvcfROJBJtDEb61AmrqISB1E4O8EU3w1QRoCpaAQAvD_BwE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:33 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > The whole rudder assembly is designed and custom built by General
> > > Boats,
> > > > > so that's the only place you're going to be able to buy a
> replacement
> > > > > part.  If GB is unable to supply a replacement, then I think your
> > only
> > > > > option would be to make your own.
> > > > >
> > > > > --Peter
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2022-09-27, at 12:47:43 EDT, Bob Garrant wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The sheave (?) to used to pull down the rudder has broken. Anyone
> > > know
> > > > > where I
> > > > > > can find a replacement for this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I?m not sure whether sheave is the correct term.
> > > > > > It?s at the base of the fixed part of the rudder and it?s used to
> > > pull
> > > > > down the
> > > > > > rudder. The blue line raises the rudder to a 90? angle out of the
> > > > water.
> > > > > The red
> > > > > > line pulls it down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See attached pictures.
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Bob Garrant
> > > > > > Sail la Vie, 2000/2017
> > > > > > Kent Island, MD
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