[Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail

Sun Feb 26 10:14:48 EST 2023

Thanks Joe for the pics and the Silverheals video makes it clear that I have a challenge ahead. I understand how it works now. I have a delrin ‘biscuit’ /bushing thingy at the top of the furling tube and two at the bottom. There is evidence that they were once attached to the furling tube - they are all pretty worn. Also have the bottom delrin cap, also worn. Perhaps an older model?
It looks like the new  IMF parts are Starboard.  If that’s the case I can probably fabricate it but I sure would rather purchase one - Stan? Anybody? 
Thanks Joe for the pics Peter for the great video and Mike for offering assistance. 
Ric
Dadventure. 
PS 
I think my masthead is different. 
Have to check. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2023, at 11:04 PM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> There is no halyard in the mast. The sail is attached to the furling tube by sheet metal screws. The photo shows the main attached to the furling tube above the drum. It is attached at the top in the same fashion. There is a "donut" at the top that is a bearing as is the frum at the bottom that permits the smooth rotation of the furling system. There are no sheeves in the mast because there are no halyards. As you can see in the second photo, the jib furler is secured to the mast by a toggle fastener.Joe DempseyTrojan 42m/v VoyagerEx- Rhodes 22s/v RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> Date: 2/25/23  12:29 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail Hi listI have not heard back from my seller about the boom/mast connector so I’m officially looking for one or enough info to be able to make one - pics would be great.  Also pics of the IMF masthead showing shives & halyards would be well appreciated. And finally, can someone explain how the main sail is attached to the curler in the mast and how/if a halyard is attached. Rics/v Dadventure. Hampton Bays, NYSent from my iPhone> On Feb 25, 2023, at 11:16 AM, C. Robert Lester <C.Robert.Lester at dartmouth.edu> wrote:> > Hi Mark, If your still parting out, I'm interested in what you have.> Bob> s/v ORION> > > -----Original Message-----> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Mark West via Rhodes22-list> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 3:50 PM> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail> > I may have a complete Rhoades 22 1990 with all options new interior and one season old sails parting out. Neighbor's tree service dropped a tree on it while in winter storage on trailer. All standing rigging , mast booms and sails are in separate storage. Not on boat at time. OR>  I would like to find a solid boat and build her back. Mark West  Fairwinds 2 Hertford NC> > -----Original Message-----> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>> Sent: Tue, Jan 17, 2023 3:29 pm> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF Mast and Sail> > Thank you Dave B> I purchased the mast from Mike Orla in Quincy Mass. > I do not have the connector for the Boom to mast fitting or for the Pop Top to Mast fitting. > Mike thinks he has it so I’ll report back.> I am totally unfamiliar with the IMF and because I have a Continental rig have always ignored posts pertaining to the  IMF. > I working on purchasing a used sail. And sispect I’ll need some furling lines and misc. parts. > The furling tube is inside the mast. > There is a round delrin disk at the bottom of the mast - not sure what that’s for either.> Any other internal parts I should know about or own? I’ll need some help once I have all the parts. > Ric> Dadventure> HBNY> > Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP> ric at stottarchitecture.com> O -631-283-1777> C- 516-965-3164> > > >> On Jan 17, 2023, at 3:07 PM, David Bradley <dwbrad at gmail.com> wrote:>> >> Hi Ric.>> >> The trick I’ve learned with rigging the IMF is to get the inthaul line wrapped properly and to fasten the mainsail properly to the furling tube top and bottom (very taught). I’ve only had to do it twice so I’m probably consciously incompetent. >> >> Do we know that the mast is extruded from the same die for furling and IMF? I would assume so but you know what they say about assumptions. >> >> Need cleats on the bottom of the boom to secure the inhale and at the aft end for outhaul. >> >> Happy to talk it through if you like.>> >> Good luck.>> >> Dave B>> >>>> On Dec 31, 2022, at 5:44 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:>>> >>> Ric,>>> >>> I don't recall anyone ever posting about a conversion from a 'standard' rig to an IMF rig in the past, so I'm not surprised by the lack of response to your questions.  How many people have experience with both?  Stan probably know the answers to some of your questions, but it seems unlikely that we'll hear from him on this.>>> >>> I can answer one question: my IMF main has no batten (I'm pretty sure).>>> >>> So, as you sail into uncharted territory (metaphorically speaking), I would encourage you to fully document the conversion process.  If you could create a nice PDF document, it could find a place in the Document Library section.>>> >>> --Peter>>> >>>> On 2022-12-30, at 17:31:26 EST, Ric Stott wrote:>>>> >>>> Happy New Year Rhodies !>>>> I have a few questions - - ->>>> Sorry if I’m repeating myself.>>>> I received favorable replies to my previous question about the value of the >>>> change. >>>> To reiterate.>>>> I have the opportunity to convert my 1986 Continental Rig to and IMF mast and >>>> main sail. >>>> There is a mast for sale in Mass. for $500  and a mainsail somewhere else for >>>> $400. >>>> The mast, spreaders, furling tube  and boom are apparently complete except for >>>> the shrouds. >>>> I happen to have a spare set of shrouds from yet another Continual style mast I >>>> have. >>>> The Sail is 2009 vintage.  I assume it will cast a few hundred dollars in spare >>>> parts or part changes, like the pop top connector, electrical/lights connector >>>> changes, etc. >>>> Questions:>>>> Are the shrouds the same for both Continental and IMF masts? Any other parts I >>>> should be aware of that might need replacing? Where can I find IMF sail rigging >>>> guide? >>>> Is there a vertical batten in all or just some of them?>>>> Are they flat or round?>>>> Does that matter?>>>> Any issues with old sails and furling?>>>> Thank you and  HAPPY NEW YEAR!>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP>>>> <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Frhodes22-list&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7Caf02ad53b4604a5c732708daf8cc6b75%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638095854106999475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=duseExRIeerfwPkbl%2FSHQf5LrVUP7AkacrNTbRaYNLs%3D&reserved=0">ric at >>>> stottarchitecture.com</a> >>>> O -631-283-1777>>>> C- 516-965-3164>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <a >>>> href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20221230%2F5b9e2573%2Fattachment.jpeg&data=05%7C01%7Cc.robert.lester%40dartmouth.edu%7Caf02ad53b4604a5c732708daf8cc6b75%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C638095854106999475%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JVr2S%2F8grVgHmv6LZ2JKo%2Bg6NMylEtKHvNL7ivdMQVI%3D&reserved=0" >>>> target="_blank">IMG_0424.jpeg</a> >>>> >>> >> > 
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