From hankstein at aol.com  Thu Jul  6 12:19:42 2023
From: hankstein at aol.com (hankstein at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 16:19:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cruising chute halyard
References: <1788861091.464219.1688660382337.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1788861091.464219.1688660382337@mail.yahoo.com>

I would like to add a halyard for a Gennaker.? ?I would appreciate hearing from someone who has added a halyard as to how it was done.?
thanks ..?
Hank Stein
R-22? 1993? #113

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Thu Jul  6 16:26:46 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 13:26:46 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cruising chute halyard
Message-ID: <E1qHVYs-003DZX-IP@s152.servername.online>

Hank,

I have a standard IMF mast, which can accommodate two halyards.  When my boat came to me recycled by GB, the port sheaves were being used for the mainsail boom topping lift, and the starboard were empty.  When I added a Doyle UPS (which I believe is similar to a Gennaker) a few years ago, I just made use of the empty sheaves to add a halyard for it.  

But, if you had empty sheaves, you probably wouldn't be asking the question.  If both port and starboard sheaves are already being used, what are they being used for?

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)

> On 2023-07-06, at 12:19:42 EDT, hankstein at aol.com wrote:
>
> I would like to add a halyard for a Gennaker.&nbsp; &nbsp;I would appreciate 
> hearing from someone who has added a halyard as to how it was done. 
> thanks ..
> Hank Stein
> R-22  1993  #113
> 


From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Thu Jul  6 16:39:24 2023
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2023 16:39:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cruising chute halyard
In-Reply-To: <E1qHVYs-003DZX-IP@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qHVYs-003DZX-IP@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <319B6874-476A-40D1-9054-8BD256574D6C@stottarchitecture.com>

I'm in the process of rebuilding a used IMF mast.  I picked it up recently for a long song. 
The used one I have has no Halyards at all, internal or external. 
I also bought a used Doyle UPS so I need at least one halyard and the topping lift 
I will need to replace the masthead or drill new holes and add the requisite sheaves.
In the meantime I am using the Continental Rig I always had. 
Ric 
Dadventure 


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Jul 6, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> Hank,
> 
> I have a standard IMF mast, which can accommodate two halyards.  When my boat came to me recycled by GB, the port sheaves were being used for the mainsail boom topping lift, and the starboard were empty.  When I added a Doyle UPS (which I believe is similar to a Gennaker) a few years ago, I just made use of the empty sheaves to add a halyard for it.  
> 
> But, if you had empty sheaves, you probably wouldn't be asking the question.  If both port and starboard sheaves are already being used, what are they being used for?
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> 
>> On 2023-07-06, at 12:19:42 EDT, hankstein at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to add a halyard for a Gennaker.&nbsp; &nbsp;I would appreciate 
>> hearing from someone who has added a halyard as to how it was done. 
>> thanks ..
>> Hank Stein
>> R-22  1993  #113
>> 
> 


From bmg18 at me.com  Sat Jul  8 18:02:19 2023
From: bmg18 at me.com (Bruce Greenwald)
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2023 18:02:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] cruising chute halyard
In-Reply-To: <E1qHVYs-003DZX-IP@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qHVYs-003DZX-IP@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <B6001054-23B4-48F2-BEEA-523645ECC5C5@me.com>

Hank, when Stan built my boat I asked for an additional sheave to accommodate a UPS.  I didn?t really specify the location (nor have I used it) but I?m pretty sure he located it on the forward side of the mast close to the top.  Next time I?m at the boat I can try to take a pic.

Bruce Greenwald
Ruach
Shelter Island NY

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hank,
> 
> I have a standard IMF mast, which can accommodate two halyards.  When my boat came to me recycled by GB, the port sheaves were being used for the mainsail boom topping lift, and the starboard were empty.  When I added a Doyle UPS (which I believe is similar to a Gennaker) a few years ago, I just made use of the empty sheaves to add a halyard for it.  
> 
> But, if you had empty sheaves, you probably wouldn't be asking the question.  If both port and starboard sheaves are already being used, what are they being used for?
> 
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
> 
>> On 2023-07-06, at 12:19:42 EDT, hankstein at aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to add a halyard for a Gennaker.&nbsp; &nbsp;I would appreciate 
>> hearing from someone who has added a halyard as to how it was done. 
>> thanks ..
>> Hank Stein
>> R-22  1993  #113
>> 
> 

From cknell at vt.edu  Wed Jul 12 19:57:24 2023
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 19:57:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Traveler Modifications
Message-ID: <506e8d17-2abc-951a-52ca-cfaf20520700@vt.edu>

A few years ago Jeff Smith described an apparent problem with his GBI 29 
traveler where he was unable to move the car on the stainless steel bar. 
I have the same problem. When I try to use the control line (the one to 
aft that runs from one end to the other end of the traveler bar), I have 
to pull on it inordinately hard to get the car to move at all (as in 
fractions of an inch). I'm trying to determine why this is the case.

In playing around with the assembly and looking at the relative tension 
of the different loops of the line, it seems odd that when I attempt to 
pull the car to starboard, the loops on the port side are tight 
(preventing movement to starboard) and vise versa. The overall length of 
the line does not allow me to introduce any additional slack in the 
line; that is, the stopper knot at the end of the line is at the cleat . 
Is it possible that my line is too short? I received it directly from 
GBI, so I'm sure that it was not modified.

Hoping for some guidance.

Thanks,
Chris

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 14 06:05:59 2023
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 06:05:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler modifications
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmntU925z3L-e=5weJyYimC_5pMYie5Z33DyYvXSstd_yw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Chris, first make sure that the traveler car without any line attached
moves smoothly on the rod. I think that you are right in that your traveler
line is too short. I would get a longer line and leave some excess at the
end. My traveler line is fairly loose . Just tight enough so the main
doesn't move under load . It doesn't have to be sta-set. I use hardware
store line quarter inch.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From cknell at vt.edu  Sat Jul 15 09:51:41 2023
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:51:41 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler modifications
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAmntU925z3L-e=5weJyYimC_5pMYie5Z33DyYvXSstd_yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAmntU925z3L-e=5weJyYimC_5pMYie5Z33DyYvXSstd_yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c67bf53b-e82f-37b9-7c45-b5a8e34b3b56@vt.edu>

Jeff, thank you for that input. I'll experiment with removing the 
stopper knot and stopping that end of the line instead at the first 
sheave. This will put plenty of slack in the line. If that solves the 
problem, I'll replace the line with a longer one.
Best regards,
Chris

On 7/14/2023 6:05 AM, Jeff Smith Photo wrote:
> Hi Chris, first make sure that the traveler car without any line attached
> moves smoothly on the rod. I think that you are right in that your traveler
> line is too short. I would get a longer line and leave some excess at the
> end. My traveler line is fairly loose . Just tight enough so the main
> doesn't move under load . It doesn't have to be sta-set. I use hardware
> store line quarter inch.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368


From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Mon Jul 17 21:58:21 2023
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 21:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
Message-ID: <CACdaeT4X7Nso11e17BetO3UMDdB-NwaY_kojM5vE7_nqEJw1rg@mail.gmail.com>

My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid of.
The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft stays
and the aft stays were shorter than before.
Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
Thanks,


Graham Stewart
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Tue Jul 18 04:52:39 2023
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:52:39 +0100
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
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This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears that you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It should be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail. 
Ric
Dadventure. 
HBNY

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid of.
> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft stays
> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 76
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From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Tue Jul 18 17:58:23 2023
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:58:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
In-Reply-To: <3E24D7ED-DC7B-4C2F-A8B5-CFB6224E0029@stottarchitecture.com>
References: <CACdaeT4X7Nso11e17BetO3UMDdB-NwaY_kojM5vE7_nqEJw1rg@mail.gmail.com>
 <3E24D7ED-DC7B-4C2F-A8B5-CFB6224E0029@stottarchitecture.com>
Message-ID: <CACdaeT6zWXFGi8mSM+QXp9k9DxY4BxCngPNVvidwA70Rbu1Ohw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Rick. I don?t have a down haul and wondered if that might be the
problem.. I?ll try that. Thanks again.
Graham
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:52 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:

> This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears that
> you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It should
> be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
> Ric
> Dadventure.
> HBNY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
> of.
> > The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
> > the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
> > changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
> stays
> > and the aft stays were shorter than before.
> > Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
> > poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
> > expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Graham Stewart
> > Agile 76
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>
-- 
Graham Stewart
gstewart.gm at gmail.com

From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Tue Jul 18 18:56:20 2023
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:56:20 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
Message-ID: <CY8PR10MB6683EA3D7C94DD035ED11FB78038A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Graham,

I agree with Ric, the main halyard/Cunningham tension isn?t tight enough.  It also looks like the boom out haul isn?t tight enough.  The leech line on the trailing edge of the sail may also be too tight.  But, the luff tension and foot tension have to be correct before the leech line can be adjusted.  If either the halyard or the boom outhaul can?t be tensioned more; then, the mainsail was either made wrong or it may have stretched.  Either way, your mainsail would need some custom tailoring.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> ?This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears that you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It should be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
> Ric
> Dadventure.
> HBNY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid of.
>> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
>> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
>> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft stays
>> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
>> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
>> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
>> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Graham Stewart
>> Agile 76
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From cknell at vt.edu  Tue Jul 18 19:31:24 2023
From: cknell at vt.edu (Chris on LBI)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 19:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler modifications
In-Reply-To: <c67bf53b-e82f-37b9-7c45-b5a8e34b3b56@vt.edu>
References: <CAM0HAmntU925z3L-e=5weJyYimC_5pMYie5Z33DyYvXSstd_yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <d0ee664b-6daa-20c1-73b9-8652d034a3d3@vt.edu>

Jeff,

You were right. The continuous line on my traveler is about 8" too 
short. I added a short piece to give me some slack in the line (see the 
attached photo). The car now moves easily. I may replace the entire line 
in the future, but for now, this will do.

Thanks,
Chris


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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jul 18 21:16:24 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:16:24 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler modifications
Message-ID: <E1qLvnk-004KA4-SE@s152.servername.online>

Chris,

I'm glad you've sorted out the primary issue with your traveler.  It is quite sensitive to line tension.  Something else that might help a little bit would be to turn the whole contraption around.  That cleat gizmo on the sliding car that holds the end of the line should face aft.  The line you pull to move the car should be on the cockpit side of the assembly.

--Peter

> On 2023-07-18, at 19:31:24 EDT, Chris on LBI wrote:
>
> Jeff,
> 
> You were right. The continuous line on my traveler is about 8" too short. I 
> added a short piece to give me some slack in the line (see the attached photo). 
> The car now moves easily. I may replace the entire line in the future, but for 
> now, this will do. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> <a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230718/411f5b93/attachment.jpg" 
> target="_blank">IMG_6476.jpg</a> 
> 


From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Tue Jul 18 22:47:53 2023
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 22:47:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
In-Reply-To: <CY8PR10MB6683EA3D7C94DD035ED11FB78038A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
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Thanks Roger. Very helpful and appreciated.
Graham
Graham Stewart
gstewart.gm at gmail.com


On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:56?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Graham,
>
> I agree with Ric, the main halyard/Cunningham tension isn?t tight enough.
> It also looks like the boom out haul isn?t tight enough.  The leech line on
> the trailing edge of the sail may also be too tight.  But, the luff tension
> and foot tension have to be correct before the leech line can be adjusted.
> If either the halyard or the boom outhaul can?t be tensioned more; then,
> the mainsail was either made wrong or it may have stretched.  Either way,
> your mainsail would need some custom tailoring.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 18, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> > ?This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears
> that you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It
> should be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
> > Ric
> > Dadventure.
> > HBNY
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
> of.
> >> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
> >> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
> >> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
> stays
> >> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
> >> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
> >> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
> >> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile 76
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From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Wed Jul 19 06:39:49 2023
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 11:39:49 +0100
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
In-Reply-To: <CACdaeT6zWXFGi8mSM+QXp9k9DxY4BxCngPNVvidwA70Rbu1Ohw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACdaeT4X7Nso11e17BetO3UMDdB-NwaY_kojM5vE7_nqEJw1rg@mail.gmail.com>
 <3E24D7ED-DC7B-4C2F-A8B5-CFB6224E0029@stottarchitecture.com>
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Message-ID: <154D6DE0-BD62-4862-99AA-2F3C5929CF2C@stottarchitecture.com>

If you do?t have a downhaul, I?m sure that?s your problem. I?m traveling now, and wold send a pic, but a line attaches to the bottom of the Boom gooseneck fitting and runs to a cleat on the port side of the mast near the bottom.  It needs no purchase. 
When my pop top is up, the down haul pulls the boom down right to the Pop top connector.
Make sure you pull the halyard up all the way. 
If you are sailing more seriously, leave the pop top down and adjust your luff tension more carefully.  You can even lower the whole sail on the mast to lower the center of effort when it?s windy by leaving the halyard a foot or so lower and adjusting the downhill accordingly
Fair winds 
Ric 
Dadventure 
HBNY
. 
Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:58 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rick. I don?t have a down haul and wondered if that might be the
> problem.. I?ll try that. Thanks again.
> Graham
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:52 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
>> This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears that
>> you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It should
>> be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
>> Ric
>> Dadventure.
>> HBNY
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
>> of.
>>> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
>>> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
>>> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
>> stays
>>> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
>>> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
>>> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
>>> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Graham Stewart
>>> Agile 76
>>> -------------- next part --------------
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>> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230717/e96939b4/attachment.jpg
>>> 
>> 
> -- 
> Graham Stewart
> gstewart.gm at gmail.com


From roger_pihlaja at msn.com  Thu Jul 20 22:17:12 2023
From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 02:17:12 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
In-Reply-To: <154D6DE0-BD62-4862-99AA-2F3C5929CF2C@stottarchitecture.com>
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Hi Graham,

I?m always a little reluctant to give mainsail tuning advice because I have a fully battened mainsail.  My boom is rigged with a 3:1 block and tackle downhaul and a 2:1 outhaul.  Fully battened sails require more downhaul and outhaul force to get all the wrinkles to disappear.  But, the tuning principles are basically the same.  If you have horizontal wrinkles, apply more downhaul.  If you have vertical wrinkles, apply more outhaul.  If you have diagonal wrinkles, apply both more downhaul and more outhaul, starting with more downhaul until the wrinkles become vertical.  The downhaul and outhaul setting that make the wrinkles disappear are your basic settings.  With my fully battened mainsail, I can move the point of maximum draft fore and aft and increase or decrease the total draft by adjusting the downhaul and outhaul tension from the basic settings.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 19, 2023, at 5:40 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>
> ?If you do?t have a downhaul, I?m sure that?s your problem. I?m traveling now, and wold send a pic, but a line attaches to the bottom of the Boom gooseneck fitting and runs to a cleat on the port side of the mast near the bottom.  It needs no purchase.
> When my pop top is up, the down haul pulls the boom down right to the Pop top connector.
> Make sure you pull the halyard up all the way.
> If you are sailing more seriously, leave the pop top down and adjust your luff tension more carefully.  You can even lower the whole sail on the mast to lower the center of effort when it?s windy by leaving the halyard a foot or so lower and adjusting the downhill accordingly
> Fair winds
> Ric
> Dadventure
> HBNY
> .
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:58 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Rick. I don?t have a down haul and wondered if that might be the
>> problem.. I?ll try that. Thanks again.
>> Graham
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:52 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears that
>>> you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It should
>>> be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
>>> Ric
>>> Dadventure.
>>> HBNY
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
>>> of.
>>>> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
>>>> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
>>>> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
>>> stays
>>>> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
>>>> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
>>>> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
>>>> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>> Agile 76
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>>>
>> --
>> Graham Stewart
>> gstewart.gm at gmail.com
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Fri Jul 21 21:39:35 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 18:39:35 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
Message-ID: <E1qN1ap-004OxC-NI@s152.servername.online>

So, yesterday I was towing my boat from Connecticut up to Rockland, ME, as I do several times a year lately.  Shortly after crossing the Maine - New Hampshire border, something about the behavior of the trailer caught my attention, but I can't really say exactly what it was.  When I glanced in the rear-view mirror, the first thing I noticed was a tire and wheel rolling freely down the highway somewhere behind me.  The second thing I noticed was a shower of sparks coming from behind the forward trailer wheel on the driver's side.  I decided that I should probably pull over to the break-down lane. The trailer handled the loss of one wheel pretty well, so fortunately, it was a pretty low drama situation. 

My trailer is a dual-axle galvanized Triad. manufactured for General Boats in 2016. 

I maintain an 'Unlimited Gold' membership with BoatUS, so I called them to arrange for transport for the boat and trailer to a trailer repair shop about 20 miles away.  The bill for the 'tow' was over $700, so I'll come out ahead on my membership this year.

As the attached (I hope) pictures might show, it was the axle itself that failed.  I have the wheel hubs serviced every year, and check them periodically when towing to make sure they're not getting hot, but of course the thing you're checking is not the the thing that fails. 

The trailer shop in Maine is still in the process of figuring out options, but I'm pretty sure that they won't be cheap, and they won't be quick.

Be careful out there,

Peter Nyberg
Coventry, CT
s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)


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From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 21 22:12:35 2023
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 22:12:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
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I hate to sound flippant, but it looks like the trailer never saw a fresh water rinse. My trailers always spent more time getting hosed of, especially the undercarriage, than they did in the water. Really pissed off the people in line at the ramp. But my axel never rusted in two.Joe DempseyTrojan 42M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> Date: 7/21/23  9:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble So, yesterday I was towing my boat from Connecticut up to Rockland, ME, as I do several times a year lately.? Shortly after crossing the Maine - New Hampshire border, something about the behavior of the trailer caught my attention, but I can't really say exactly what it was.? When I glanced in the rear-view mirror, the first thing I noticed was a tire and wheel rolling freely down the highway somewhere behind me.? The second thing I noticed was a shower of sparks coming from behind the forward trailer wheel on the driver's side.? I decided that I should probably pull over to the break-down lane. The trailer handled the loss of one wheel pretty well, so fortunately, it was a pretty low drama situation. My trailer is a dual-axle galvanized Triad. manufactured for General Boats in 2016. I maintain an 'Unlimited Gold' membership with BoatUS, so I called them to arrange for transport for the boat and trailer to a trailer repair shop about 20 miles away.? The bill for the 'tow' was over $700, so I'll come out ahead on my membership this year.As the attached (I hope) pictures might show, it was the axle itself that failed.? I have the wheel hubs serviced every year, and check them periodically when towing to make sure they're not getting hot, but of course the thing you're checking is not the the thing that fails. The trailer shop in Maine is still in the process of figuring out options, but I'm pretty sure that they won't be cheap, and they won't be quick.Be careful out there,Peter NybergCoventry, CTs/v Silverheels (1988/2016)-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Axle.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 2092129 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230721/5e2e51fe/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Wheel.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 1774367 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230721/5e2e51fe/attachment-0001.jpg>

From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 21 22:13:06 2023
From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 02:13:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
References: <638940931.3022131.1689991986338.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Peter,
   Thank goodness no one was hurt and your boat wasn't damaged!  That's the sort of thing that gives me nightmares, especially as I have a single axle trailer.  When you know more about exactly what caused this please let us know.  
    I must have missed you by just a bit as I was traveling from Rockland to Hartford and eventually to Pittsburgh yesterday (not with my boat).  After watching some of your videos I had been expecting a week of beautiful views of the Maine Coast, but all I saw was fog and lobster pots.  I had a great time in spite of it though.
   I hope your repairs are speedy.  Best of luck.

Peter

From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 06:28:18 2023
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 06:28:18 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
Message-ID: <CAM0HAm=aSEDN9KYaOQn8gcDW2f1N_1wUszMjY0aX_r5sJKhsKA@mail.gmail.com>

It's good that you your car and the boat suffered no damage.
I am planning a 1600 mile round trip to the north Channel of Lake Huron
starting today. When I took the trailer in for servicing they told me that
the surge drum brakes were totally shot. I'm sure they were not working
when I traveled the boat to Maine and to the Chesapeake.
$3,000 later I had a new set of disc brakes. But the shop told me that when
I disconnected the hydraulic line in order to use the 10-ft extended
tongue, I could be introducing air into the system which would make the
brakes inoperable. Not wanting to take a chance for the long trip I had the
yard pulled the boat with straps on the Travel lift and put it on the
trailer. This both allowed a good pressure wash bottom cleaning and got the
boat far forward on the trailer to increase tongue weight. I will do the
same launching and retrieving at Little Current Ontario. Pricey, but safety
first.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From sea20 at verizon.net  Sat Jul 22 07:51:25 2023
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 07:51:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
In-Reply-To: <64bb3b1b.9d0a0220.52cda.cf43@mx.google.com>
References: <64bb3b1b.9d0a0220.52cda.cf43@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <F5B9F25A-B7D8-4574-961E-FA7ACFD81C95@verizon.net>

Trailers have always intimidated me. When I hauled my boat from Stan?s up to Delaware I think I held my breath most of the way. I replaced the coupler and bled the brakes but other than that I only had a visual inspection to go on. Fortunately the trailer Stan sold me was in excellent condition and the hauling has been mostly uneventful. I had a wheel come off a lowboy trailer while hauling a bulldozer. I have never forgotten the feeling. Concealed metal fatigue and corrosion are hard to spot. Glad you are ok Peter. 
Scott & Rebecca sv Pantalaimon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2023, at 10:12 PM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?I hate to sound flippant, but it looks like the trailer never saw a fresh water rinse. My trailers always spent more time getting hosed of, especially the undercarriage, than they did in the water. Really pissed off the people in line at the ramp. But my axel never rusted in two.Joe DempseyTrojan 42M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> Date: 7/21/23  9:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble So, yesterday I was towing my boat from Connecticut up to Rockland, ME, as I do several times a year lately.  Shortly after crossing the Maine - New Hampshire border, something about the behavior of the trailer caught my attention, but I can't really say exactly what it was.  When I glanced in the rear-view mirror, the first thing I noticed was a tire and wheel rolling freely down the highway somewhere behind me.  The second thing I noticed was a shower of sparks coming from behind the forward trailer wheel on the driver's side.  I decided that I should probably pull over to the break-down lane. The trailer handled the loss of one wheel pretty well, so fortunately, it was a pretty low drama situation. My trailer is a dual-axle galvanized Triad. manufactured for General Boats in 2016. I maintain an 'Unlimited Gold' membership with BoatUS, so I called them to arrange for transport for the boat and trailer to a trailer repair shop about 20 miles away.  The bill for the 'tow' was over $700, so I'll come out ahead on my membership this year.As the attached (I hope) pictures might show, it was the axle itself that failed.  I have the wheel hubs serviced every year, and check them periodically when towing to make sure they're not getting hot, but of course the thing you're checking is not the the thing that fails. The trailer shop in Maine is still in the process of figuring out options, but I'm pretty sure that they won't be cheap, and they won't be quick.Be careful out there,Peter NybergCoventry, CTs/v Silverheels (1988/2016)-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Axle.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 2092129 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230721/5e2e51fe/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Wheel.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 1774367 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230721/5e2e51fe/attachment-0001.jpg>


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat Jul 22 08:54:48 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 05:54:48 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
Message-ID: <E1qNC8G-007EJy-6s@s152.servername.online>

Joe,

A fresh water wash-down after launch or retrieval certainly sounds like a good idea, but no boat ramp I've ever used had a faucet.  

I should point out that all areas of the trailer that are galvanized seem to be holding up very well.  That includes most of the axles.  But, the axles have 3" or 4" 'drops' welded onto the ends, and these for some reason are not galvanized.  (The 'drops' actually go up rather than down.  They allow the trailer to sit lower, making the boat easier to launch and retrieve.)  Not surprisingly, it was one of the 'drops' that failed.

Just last week, I had taken the boat off of the trailer and taken the trailer to my local shop to have a brake line replaced.  So, they did work very close to the point of failure, and didn't notice anything amiss. 

--Peter

> On 2023-07-21, at 22:12:35 EDT, Joe Dempsey wrote:
>
> I hate to sound flippant, but it looks like the trailer never saw a fresh water 
> rinse. My trailers always spent more time getting hosed of, especially the 
> undercarriage, than they did in the water. Really pissed off the people in line 
> at the ramp. But my axel never rusted in two.Joe DempseyTrojan 42M/V 
> VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 
> 5G, an AT&amp;T 5G smartphone 
> 


From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 12:18:19 2023
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:18:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
Message-ID: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>

Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
the tongue?

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 12:30:25 2023
From: brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com (Brian Ferguson)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:30:25 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
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I have a freshwater trailer and with a ?76 Continental so brakes aren?t
really a thing for me. I actually have electric brakes. I digress. Has
anyone figured out a way to extend the brake line so air intrusion is not a
problem? Kodiak makes a 20? flexible hose extension. Around $45. I?m sure
there?s a way to engineer something that could coil the line when not in
use. Just a thought.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> the tongue?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>

From retiredtoby at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 12:46:36 2023
From: retiredtoby at gmail.com (Cary Tolbert)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:46:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAPD+wLEqfaq5=W3sq+1v3F5HT8A1TTQejoWPByFTN6bmvVwBLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
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If this was really an issue all of the regulations regarding trailer
brakes would have addressed and solved the problem.
I had stainless steel disc brakes installed on my old 86 Triad by Triad
Trailers. I received a folder full of printed material. It had warranties
and all sorts of Cover Their Backside info,
Nothing mentioned about the quick release allowing air into the brake line.
Just my thoughts and 2 cents.
It mentioned checking your fluid level. After a few years of disconnects I
can see where one could lose some fluid.

Cary
Claytor Lake ,VA

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:30?PM Brian Ferguson <
brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a freshwater trailer and with a ?76 Continental so brakes aren?t
> really a thing for me. I actually have electric brakes. I digress. Has
> anyone figured out a way to extend the brake line so air intrusion is not a
> problem? Kodiak makes a 20? flexible hose extension. Around $45. I?m sure
> there?s a way to engineer something that could coil the line when not in
> use. Just a thought.
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> > the tongue?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
>

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat Jul 22 13:36:47 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 10:36:47 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
Message-ID: <E1qNGX9-008EuN-DM@s152.servername.online>

The Triad boat trailer is the only trailer I've ever owned with surge brakes.  I've never really been able to tell if the brakes were doing anything useful.  When I had the original drum brakes replaced with disc, I asked about converting to electric-over-hydraulic.  As I recall, the added cost was around $1500, which was too steep for me.

As for the quick disconnect, I'm skeptical that it's a cause for concern (but certainly can't say for sure).  I think that adding ten or twelve feet of flexible brake line would introduce its own problems.

--Peter

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 22 13:51:27 2023
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAPD+wLEqfaq5=W3sq+1v3F5HT8A1TTQejoWPByFTN6bmvVwBLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAPD+wLEqfaq5=W3sq+1v3F5HT8A1TTQejoWPByFTN6bmvVwBLA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1936268244.3837842.1690048287535@mail.yahoo.com>

Here ye, hear ye,
Now at 80, a less vigorous,? I am looking for a good home for my '86 R22 Mary Jane. She served well as a very able member of the fleet, once as the platform for the Boom Room at the Annapolis Boat Show, and model for about a dozen rooms provided for US fleet skippers.
Drop me a line and I will respond. There may be more than a few skippers that may want to upgrade to an '86 boat originating from the Edenton plant.
R,Art Czerwonkys/v Mary Jane
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:30 PM, Brian Ferguson<brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:   I have a freshwater trailer and with a ?76 Continental so brakes aren?t
really a thing for me. I actually have electric brakes. I digress. Has
anyone figured out a way to extend the brake line so air intrusion is not a
problem? Kodiak makes a 20? flexible hose extension. Around $45. I?m sure
there?s a way to engineer something that could coil the line when not in
use. Just a thought.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> the tongue?
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>
  

From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Sat Jul 22 14:07:03 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 11:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 For Sale
Message-ID: <E1qNH0R-008LXf-5p@s152.servername.online>

Hey Art, you might catch more fist with the right bait, or, in this case, subject line...

:^)

--Peter

> On 2023-07-22, at 13:51:27 EDT, Art Czerwonky wrote:
>
> Here ye, hear ye,
> Now at 80, a less vigorous,&nbsp; I am looking for a good home for my '86 R22 
> Mary Jane. She served well as a very able member of the fleet, once as the 
> platform for the Boom Room at the Annapolis Boat Show, and model for about a 
> dozen rooms provided for US fleet skippers. 
> Drop me a line and I will respond. There may be more than a few skippers that 
> may want to upgrade to an '86 boat originating from the Edenton plant. 
> R,Art Czerwonkys/v Mary Jane
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>   On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:30 PM, Brian Ferguson&lt;<a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list">brian.a.ferguson76 at 
> gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:   I have a freshwater trailer and with a ?76 
> Continental so brakes aren?t 
> really a thing for me. I actually have electric brakes. I digress. Has anyone 
> figured out a way to extend the brake line so air intrusion is not a problem? 
> Kodiak makes a 20? flexible hose extension. Around $45. I?m sure there?s a way 
> to engineer something that could coil the line when not in use. Just a thought. 
> 
> 


From mweisner at ebsmed.com  Sat Jul 22 14:19:35 2023
From: mweisner at ebsmed.com (Michael D. Weisner)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 14:19:35 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Art's 1986 R22 is for sale
Message-ID: <mailman.1993.1690050004.2787.rhodes22-list@rhodes22.org>

Here ye, hear ye,Now at 80, a less vigorous,? I am looking for a good home for my '86 R22 Mary Jane. She served well as a very able member of the fleet, once as the platform for the Boom Room at the Annapolis Boat Show, and model for about a dozen rooms provided for US fleet skippers.Drop me a line and I will respond. There may be more than a few skippers that may want to upgrade to an '86 boat originating from the Edenton plant.R,Art Czerwonkys/v Mary Jane

From rrago54 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 14:21:01 2023
From: rrago54 at gmail.com (ricardo rago)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 14:21:01 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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Hi Art,

I'm interested; where is the boat located?.
I can be reach at (203) 300-1001.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

Ricardo A. Rago


On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 1:51 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Here ye, hear ye,
> Now at 80, a less vigorous,  I am looking for a good home for my '86 R22
> Mary Jane. She served well as a very able member of the fleet, once as the
> platform for the Boom Room at the Annapolis Boat Show, and model for about
> a dozen rooms provided for US fleet skippers.
> Drop me a line and I will respond. There may be more than a few skippers
> that may want to upgrade to an '86 boat originating from the Edenton plant.
> R,Art Czerwonkys/v Mary Jane
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:30 PM, Brian Ferguson<
> brian.a.ferguson76 at gmail.com> wrote:   I have a freshwater trailer and
> with a ?76 Continental so brakes aren?t
> really a thing for me. I actually have electric brakes. I digress. Has
> anyone figured out a way to extend the brake line so air intrusion is not a
> problem? Kodiak makes a 20? flexible hose extension. Around $45. I?m sure
> there?s a way to engineer something that could coil the line when not in
> use. Just a thought.
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 12:18 PM Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> > the tongue?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Jeff Smith
> > www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > 732-236-1368
> >
>
>

From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Sat Jul 22 16:17:05 2023
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 21:17:05 +0100
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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Umm - What?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> the tongue?
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368

From rrago54 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 16:20:03 2023
From: rrago54 at gmail.com (ricardo rago)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:20:03 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Additional rudder
Message-ID: <CA+tt-SOc+zG3meoXr92syAEb7PxSw1SLSVaiT9JMLmSyT85wow@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I'm looking at an '86 Rhodes 22 that currently doesn't have a rudder.
Does anybody know where I can procure one?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Kind regards,

Ricardo A. Rago

From mark at whipplefamily.com  Sat Jul 22 16:28:40 2023
From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:28:40 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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I have hydraulic surge brakes. My trailer came with an extension hose.
Seems to work fine. I'll post a picture in a few days when I'm back at the
boat.

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, 1:36 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> The Triad boat trailer is the only trailer I've ever owned with surge
> brakes.  I've never really been able to tell if the brakes were doing
> anything useful.  When I had the original drum brakes replaced with disc, I
> asked about converting to electric-over-hydraulic.  As I recall, the added
> cost was around $1500, which was too steep for me.
>
> As for the quick disconnect, I'm skeptical that it's a cause for concern
> (but certainly can't say for sure).  I think that adding ten or twelve feet
> of flexible brake line would introduce its own problems.
>
> --Peter
>

From rnelson204 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 16:59:52 2023
From: rnelson204 at gmail.com (Rodney Brown)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 15:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Additional rudder
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From gstewart.gm at gmail.com  Sat Jul 22 23:02:06 2023
From: gstewart.gm at gmail.com (Graham Stewart)
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 23:02:06 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
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Roger:
Having sailed for 50 odd years I should know the answer to my mainsail
question. I am one of those who simply bought a sailboat and went sailing
with no knowledge or experience. I don't think I have ever had someone on
board who was knowledgeable either. I am at the point where I can
definitely get to where I want to go but not in a particularly artful
manner. All to say I appreciate your advice on how to get a proper sail
sape and am glad that you were not reluctant to give your opinion.

I am also one of those who probably enjoys working on the restoration of
boats more than actually using them. I have completely restored two boats
including my 76 Rhodes. But even with the restoration I just plunged in
without any sensible idea of what I was doing. Once again I managed to get
to my destination but not without some artless mistakes along the way. If I
had waited until I knew what I was doing I would have never done it.
Graham Stewart
gstewart.gm at gmail.com


On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:17?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
wrote:

> Hi Graham,
>
> I?m always a little reluctant to give mainsail tuning advice because I
> have a fully battened mainsail.  My boom is rigged with a 3:1 block and
> tackle downhaul and a 2:1 outhaul.  Fully battened sails require more
> downhaul and outhaul force to get all the wrinkles to disappear.  But, the
> tuning principles are basically the same.  If you have horizontal wrinkles,
> apply more downhaul.  If you have vertical wrinkles, apply more outhaul.
> If you have diagonal wrinkles, apply both more downhaul and more outhaul,
> starting with more downhaul until the wrinkles become vertical.  The
> downhaul and outhaul setting that make the wrinkles disappear are your
> basic settings.  With my fully battened mainsail, I can move the point of
> maximum draft fore and aft and increase or decrease the total draft by
> adjusting the downhaul and outhaul tension from the basic settings.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 19, 2023, at 5:40 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?If you do?t have a downhaul, I?m sure that?s your problem. I?m
> traveling now, and wold send a pic, but a line attaches to the bottom of
> the Boom gooseneck fitting and runs to a cleat on the port side of the mast
> near the bottom.  It needs no purchase.
> > When my pop top is up, the down haul pulls the boom down right to the
> Pop top connector.
> > Make sure you pull the halyard up all the way.
> > If you are sailing more seriously, leave the pop top down and adjust
> your luff tension more carefully.  You can even lower the whole sail on the
> mast to lower the center of effort when it?s windy by leaving the halyard a
> foot or so lower and adjusting the downhill accordingly
> > Fair winds
> > Ric
> > Dadventure
> > HBNY
> > .
> > Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> > ric at stottarchitecture.com
> > O -631-283-1777
> > C- 516-965-3164
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:58 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Rick. I don?t have a down haul and wondered if that might be the
> >> problem.. I?ll try that. Thanks again.
> >> Graham
> >>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:52 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears
> that
> >>> you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It
> should
> >>> be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
> >>> Ric
> >>> Dadventure.
> >>> HBNY
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
> >>> of.
> >>>> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was
> restoring
> >>>> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
> >>>> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
> >>> stays
> >>>> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
> >>>> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
> >>>> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
> >>>> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Graham Stewart
> >>>> Agile 76
> >>>> -------------- next part --------------
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> >>>
> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230717/e96939b4/attachment.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> --
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> gstewart.gm at gmail.com
> >
>

From sea20 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 23 07:22:46 2023
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 07:22:46 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick disconnect.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Umm - What?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
>> the tongue?
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> Jeff Smith
>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>> 732-236-1368


From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 07:38:09 2023
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 07:38:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble
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Peter,True, most ra.ps domt have water connections. Even hosing down at destination is advisable. Its certai ly not the end all but maintenance is so often ingnored. Just glad you weren't hurt. The double axel saved you!Best,?JoeSent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> Date: 7/22/23  8:54 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer Trouble Joe,A fresh water wash-down after launch or retrieval certainly sounds like a good idea, but no boat ramp I've ever used had a faucet.? I should point out that all areas of the trailer that are galvanized seem to be holding up very well.? That includes most of the axles.? But, the axles have 3" or 4" 'drops' welded onto the ends, and these for some reason are not galvanized.? (The 'drops' actually go up rather than down.? They allow the trailer to sit lower, making the boat easier to launch and retrieve.)? Not surprisingly, it was one of the 'drops' that failed.Just last week, I had taken the boat off of the trailer and taken the trailer to my local shop to have a brake line replaced.? So, they did work very close to the point of failure, and didn't notice anything amiss. --Peter> On 2023-07-21, at 22:12:35 EDT, Joe Dempsey wrote:>> I hate to sound flippant, but it looks like the trailer never saw a fresh water > rinse. My trailers always spent more time getting hosed of, especially the > undercarriage, than they did in the water. Really pissed off the people in line > at the ramp. But my axel never rusted in two.Joe DempseyTrojan 42M/V > VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 > 5G, an AT&amp;T 5G smartphone > 

From oehecht at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 07:41:19 2023
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 07:41:19 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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There should be a small pin that goes in a hole across the tongue to
prevent the sliding action that activates the brakes when you need to back
up. If you don?t have that pin, you can look for the hole that should be
there and get the correct sized pin for it. You still have to insert it
each time you need to back up, but it?s easier and better than
disconnecting the line.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:23 AM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick
> disconnect.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Umm - What?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to
> extend
> >> the tongue?
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >> Jeff Smith
> >> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> >> 732-236-1368
>
>

From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 08:11:54 2023
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:11:54 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <2D761220-C032-4C19-83FA-467A79ECAA87@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <64bd191a.050a0220.2a418.14a0@mx.google.com>

Should not have to do that. They are called surge brakes for a reason. Unless you are jerking on the accelerator creating a surge. I would have them inspected and serviced.?Joe DempseyTrojan 42?M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V Respite?Deltaville, VA??Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Date: 7/23/23  7:23 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick disconnect.Sent from my iPhone> On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:> > ?Umm - What?> > Sent from my iPhone> >> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:>> >> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend>> the tongue?>> >> Best Regards>> Jeff Smith>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net>> 732-236-1368

From mark at whipplefamily.com  Sun Jul 23 08:56:24 2023
From: mark at whipplefamily.com (Mark Whipple)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:56:24 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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My surge brakes have an electrical disconnect for backing up. It's wired to
the backup lights on my vehicle.

Mark


On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 7:41 AM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:

> There should be a small pin that goes in a hole across the tongue to
> prevent the sliding action that activates the brakes when you need to back
> up. If you don?t have that pin, you can look for the hole that should be
> there and get the correct sized pin for it. You still have to insert it
> each time you need to back up, but it?s easier and better than
> disconnecting the line.
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:23 AM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
> > I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick
> > disconnect.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Umm - What?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to
> > extend
> > >> the tongue?
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards
> > >> Jeff Smith
> > >> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > >> 732-236-1368
> >
> >
>

From oehecht at gmail.com  Sun Jul 23 10:12:38 2023
From: oehecht at gmail.com (Olivier Hecht)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 10:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
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Mine didn't have the electrical disconnect solenoid like that, and I
think the pin is a manual alternative / backup solution.  I do think one or
the other is necessary when trying to backup a loaded trailer without
activating the trailer brakes.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 8:56?AM Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:

> My surge brakes have an electrical disconnect for backing up. It's wired to
> the backup lights on my vehicle.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 7:41 AM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > There should be a small pin that goes in a hole across the tongue to
> > prevent the sliding action that activates the brakes when you need to
> back
> > up. If you don?t have that pin, you can look for the hole that should be
> > there and get the correct sized pin for it. You still have to insert it
> > each time you need to back up, but it?s easier and better than
> > disconnecting the line.
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:23 AM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick
> > > disconnect.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?Umm - What?
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > >> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
> > jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to
> > > extend
> > > >> the tongue?
> > > >>
> > > >> Best Regards
> > > >> Jeff Smith
> > > >> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> > > >> 732-236-1368
> > >
> > >
> >
>

From lgioia at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 23 10:13:36 2023
From: lgioia at yahoo.com (Larry Gioia)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 10:13:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CA+WP5ASXcdt+7-W+R06f3oLxnCqhx=gMRh0EYNUVzzU9dvh+gw@mail.gmail.com>
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I bought a used ?86 Rhodes in St Pete FL 3 yrs ago - owner had passed away, his wife donated it to the local Sea Scouts, I bought it from them.  Has a single-axle trailer with no brakes - no doubt original - no idea if it?s a Triad. Has anyone driven a long distance with a single-axle no brakes trailer? I?m guessing it?s not a good idea. 

The rest of the story, as Paul Harvey used to say: I didn?t like the condition of the tires so the morning I bought it I planned to bring it immediately to a tire shop 2 miles from where I bought it that morning before driving the 40 minute drive to my place.  But that morning in March 2020 a Covid ban on going anywhere was going into effect in Pinellas county at 11am and the tire shop wasn?t open. I figured oh well there?s a spare tire, I?ll chance it. Almost made it - 5 miles away got a flat. Spare had almost no air so filled it with a 120V compressor that kept popping the breaker on my SUV?s 120V outlet - worked for about 30 sec at a time, finally filled it & got home. I replaced all 3 tires & wheels, very rusty inside.  Haven?t driven it anywhere since as I?m on a small freshwater lake (Keystone Lake in Odessa FL) and have only hauled it out once since for some maintenance.  The boat?s been great though!  And that?s the rest of the story?
  
  
Larry
   
   
?86 R22 Still-Unnamed, Keystone FL
   
?14 R22, Language of Love, Lake George NY

> On Jul 23, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Mark Whipple <mark at whipplefamily.com> wrote:
> 
> ?My surge brakes have an electrical disconnect for backing up. It's wired to
> the backup lights on my vehicle.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 7:41 AM Olivier Hecht <oehecht at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There should be a small pin that goes in a hole across the tongue to
>> prevent the sliding action that activates the brakes when you need to back
>> up. If you don?t have that pin, you can look for the hole that should be
>> there and get the correct sized pin for it. You still have to insert it
>> each time you need to back up, but it?s easier and better than
>> disconnecting the line.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:23 AM Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am unable to back up without disconnecting the brake line quick
>>> disconnect.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 22, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Umm - What?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 22, 2023, at 5:18 PM, Jeff Smith Photo <
>> jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ?Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to
>>> extend
>>>>> the tongue?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> Jeff Smith
>>>>> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
>>>>> 732-236-1368
>>> 
>>> 
>> 


From sea20 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 23 13:54:58 2023
From: sea20 at verizon.net (Scott Andrews)
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAGUHJmQY7bx7bGzuo97S9JtxFBgDje9ujgzCSa98oJK_SqV_iA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGUHJmQY7bx7bGzuo97S9JtxFBgDje9ujgzCSa98oJK_SqV_iA@mail.gmail.com>
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From davidmberg at mac.com  Mon Jul 24 12:21:40 2023
From: davidmberg at mac.com (DAVID BERG)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 11:21:40 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=_cX2cYKjHxB4oLt=DgFtC=6JedGS374JaatTaCY1zaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24134868-0978-40FF-89D0-54608326FDFF@mac.com>

Jeff,

I was concerned about this and called Triad. They weren?t that helpful, and I believe that they were confused about my concern and said to just disconnect it, and reconnect it. So, I don?t know about fluid loss or air introduction as I?ve never had to use the extension (yet).

That said I do know that the surge breaks work well. I can feel them doing their job when needing to break more aggressively due to an unexpected hazard, etc.

David Berg
Blue Loon
Minneapolis

> On Jul 22, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Has any one had air introduced in the brake lined by decoupling to extend
> the tongue?
> 
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368


From tvpolise at aol.com  Mon Jul 24 14:57:34 2023
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 14:57:34 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
References: <31921F37-D029-4D99-8B40-B6A5B349283E.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <31921F37-D029-4D99-8B40-B6A5B349283E@aol.com>

I presently have a car that gets stuck and doesn?t allow to pull sail fully out due to the length of car and pulley.  I?m looking to rig like the attached photo that I pulled off internet. Has anyone done this and if so know where I can purchase these components?

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From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Mon Jul 24 17:13:28 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 14:13:28 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
Message-ID: <E1qO2rw-002ATD-ET@s152.servername.online>

Thomas,

To the best of my recollection, the most common complaint about the GB design outhaul system is that some part of it has broken.  My personal experience, and apparently the experience of most folks on the list is that if it's not broken, the GB system works pretty well. 

Since the system seems to work well for most owners, I a first step should be to try to figure out why it's not working for you.  

My vague impression is that you bought your R22 from General Boats.  Is that right?  

If it is, then it would seem most likely that you have regulation, standard issue, R22 main sail, boom, and outhaul car.  This just deepens the mystery. I could speculate on reasons the car might get stuck in the boom track (mostly imagining damage to either the boom or the car), but I'm baffled as to why your main sail can't be fully deployed.

More information would be helpful.  If you disconnect your outhaul car from the main sail and the outhaul line, will it slide freely in its track along the top of the boom?  When the main sail is pulled out as far as you can, what is the distance between the clew of the sail and the end of the boom?  Pictures would probably help too.

As to your actual questions regarding the picture, the shackle and block should be easy to source. But it looks like the clew of the sail is attached to a car riding in a track along the top of the boom.  Even if you could find a source for that car, the odds that it would fit in the track on your boom are not high.  And even if it did fit, what's the likelihood that it would also tend to get stuck?

Sorry that I couldn't do much more than ask a bunch of questions.

--Peter

> On 2023-07-24, at 14:57:34 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>
> I presently have a car that gets stuck and doesn?t allow to pull sail fully out 
> due to the length of car and pulley.  I?m looking to rig like the attached photo 
> that I pulled off internet. Has anyone done this and if so know where I can 
> purchase these components? 
> 
> 
> <a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230724/10630e29/attachment.jpe" 
> target="_blank">View recent photos.png</a> 
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> 


From melrothbard at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 24 18:05:23 2023
From: melrothbard at yahoo.com (Melvyn Rothbard)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 22:05:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
In-Reply-To: <E1qO2rw-002ATD-ET@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qO2rw-002ATD-ET@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <173279936.4658198.1690236323988@mail.yahoo.com>

I noticed that the outhaul car was binding up this year.? Then I noticed that my boom was a little below the horizontal.? When I raised the boom to level, the problem went away.? I had the boom at the lower level because I was having trouble getting the entire mainsail into the IFM mast.? Lowering the boom below the horizontal helped.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 5:13 PM, Peter Nyberg<peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:   Thomas,

To the best of my recollection, the most common complaint about the GB design outhaul system is that some part of it has broken.? My personal experience, and apparently the experience of most folks on the list is that if it's not broken, the GB system works pretty well. 

Since the system seems to work well for most owners, I a first step should be to try to figure out why it's not working for you.? 

My vague impression is that you bought your R22 from General Boats.? Is that right?? 

If it is, then it would seem most likely that you have regulation, standard issue, R22 main sail, boom, and outhaul car.? This just deepens the mystery. I could speculate on reasons the car might get stuck in the boom track (mostly imagining damage to either the boom or the car), but I'm baffled as to why your main sail can't be fully deployed.

More information would be helpful.? If you disconnect your outhaul car from the main sail and the outhaul line, will it slide freely in its track along the top of the boom?? When the main sail is pulled out as far as you can, what is the distance between the clew of the sail and the end of the boom?? Pictures would probably help too.

As to your actual questions regarding the picture, the shackle and block should be easy to source. But it looks like the clew of the sail is attached to a car riding in a track along the top of the boom.? Even if you could find a source for that car, the odds that it would fit in the track on your boom are not high.? And even if it did fit, what's the likelihood that it would also tend to get stuck?

Sorry that I couldn't do much more than ask a bunch of questions.

--Peter

> On 2023-07-24, at 14:57:34 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>
> I presently have a car that gets stuck and doesn?t allow to pull sail fully out 
> due to the length of car and pulley.? I?m looking to rig like the attached photo 
> that I pulled off internet. Has anyone done this and if so know where I can 
> purchase these components? 
> 
> 
> <a 
> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230724/10630e29/attachment.jpe" 
> target="_blank">View recent photos.png</a> 
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> 

  

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 24 18:27:46 2023
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 22:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] What is wrong with my mainsail?
In-Reply-To: <CACdaeT4q4YGZoKzX0MJKEw8oFB+AXn_Q+Du3FMcAM8HGDJuZ9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CY8PR10MB6683EA3D7C94DD035ED11FB78038A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
 <CACdaeT4q4YGZoKzX0MJKEw8oFB+AXn_Q+Du3FMcAM8HGDJuZ9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <509250708.4673901.1690237666319@mail.yahoo.com>

Guys,
Just as a "heads-:up" I will retire as Mary Jane's skipper this year as am becoming an.older fogey. The cost will be reasonable. The only real impediment is a rudder that was destroyed in a January fire, not affecting the boat which was in separate storage.? I'm looking for a good home for this excellent craft.

Art
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 10:48 PM, Graham Stewart<gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:   Thanks Roger. Very helpful and appreciated.
Graham
Graham Stewart
gstewart.gm at gmail.com


On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:56?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Graham,
>
> I agree with Ric, the main halyard/Cunningham tension isn?t tight enough.
> It also looks like the boom out haul isn?t tight enough.? The leech line on
> the trailing edge of the sail may also be too tight.? But, the luff tension
> and foot tension have to be correct before the leech line can be adjusted.
> If either the halyard or the boom outhaul can?t be tensioned more; then,
> the mainsail was either made wrong or it may have stretched.? Either way,
> your mainsail would need some custom tailoring.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 18, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> wrote:
> > ?This looks to me like a halyard/down haul tension issue. It appears
> that you have a ?Continental? rig with a Stack Pc or Lazy Jack system. It
> should be easy to pull on some down haul to tighten the luff of the sail.
> > Ric
> > Dadventure.
> > HBNY
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 18, 2023, at 2:59 AM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?My mainsail hangs with a diagonal crease that I can't seem to get rid
> of.
> >> The sail was new a few years ago and was purchased while I was restoring
> >> the boat - which included replacing the inner stay chainplates. I also
> >> changed the furling gear and afterwards it seemed that the inner aft
> stays
> >> and the aft stays were shorter than before.
> >> Might the rake of the mast create this problem or might it be a
> >> poorly constructed sail? I have attached a picture in case one of the
> >> expert sailors on the list can make a suggestion.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> Graham Stewart
> >> Agile 76
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From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Tue Jul 25 06:40:48 2023
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 06:40:48 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmkQQ_5Ma5MOQZpL18UswViNeUZTbdzp8BbOQw9q9Rnptg@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks David,
I will probably strap launch for this trip, then ramp launch when I return
and have the brakes checked out at the trailer shop to see if air intrusion
makes them inoperable.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From tvpolise at aol.com  Tue Jul 25 08:21:16 2023
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:21:16 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
In-Reply-To: <E1qO2rw-002ATD-ET@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qO2rw-002ATD-ET@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <E83EFF54-E738-493D-A501-9A6BF4B071F1@aol.com>

Thanks for responding, sorry about your trailer.  I have a single axle trailer and I?m terrified to tow on highways. 
Regarding outhaul, I have a metal car, not the plastic car.   I bought the GB car and it did not fit in my boom track.  The metal car will slide if I raise boom but its length prohibits me from extending my sail fully out of mast, which is why I?m looking for alternatives.  

> On Jul 24, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Thomas,
> 
> To the best of my recollection, the most common complaint about the GB design outhaul system is that some part of it has broken.  My personal experience, and apparently the experience of most folks on the list is that if it's not broken, the GB system works pretty well. 
> 
> Since the system seems to work well for most owners, I a first step should be to try to figure out why it's not working for you.  
> 
> My vague impression is that you bought your R22 from General Boats.  Is that right?  
> 
> If it is, then it would seem most likely that you have regulation, standard issue, R22 main sail, boom, and outhaul car.  This just deepens the mystery. I could speculate on reasons the car might get stuck in the boom track (mostly imagining damage to either the boom or the car), but I'm baffled as to why your main sail can't be fully deployed.
> 
> More information would be helpful.  If you disconnect your outhaul car from the main sail and the outhaul line, will it slide freely in its track along the top of the boom?  When the main sail is pulled out as far as you can, what is the distance between the clew of the sail and the end of the boom?  Pictures would probably help too.
> 
> As to your actual questions regarding the picture, the shackle and block should be easy to source. But it looks like the clew of the sail is attached to a car riding in a track along the top of the boom.  Even if you could find a source for that car, the odds that it would fit in the track on your boom are not high.  And even if it did fit, what's the likelihood that it would also tend to get stuck?
> 
> Sorry that I couldn't do much more than ask a bunch of questions.
> 
> --Peter
> 
>> On 2023-07-24, at 14:57:34 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>> 
>> I presently have a car that gets stuck and doesn?t allow to pull sail fully out 
>> due to the length of car and pulley.  I?m looking to rig like the attached photo 
>> that I pulled off internet. Has anyone done this and if so know where I can 
>> purchase these components? 
>> 
>> 
>> <a 
>> href="http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230724/10630e29/attachment.jpe" 
>> target="_blank">View recent photos.png</a> 
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> 
>> 
> 


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jul 25 09:01:24 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 06:01:24 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
Message-ID: <E1qOHfI-006AmH-Tv@s152.servername.online>

Have you tried getting a plastic outhaul car from General Boats?  Some people have been able to get parts by emailing charles.gabriel at gmail.com.

--Peter

> On 2023-07-25, at 08:21:16 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>
> Thanks for responding, sorry about your trailer.  I have a single axle trailer 
> and I?m terrified to tow on highways. 
> Regarding outhaul, I have a metal car, not the plastic car.   I bought the GB 
> car and it did not fit in my boom track.  The metal car will slide if I raise 
> boom but its length prohibits me from extending my sail fully out of mast, which 
> is why I?m looking for alternatives. 
> 
> 


From tvpolise at aol.com  Tue Jul 25 13:19:59 2023
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 13:19:59 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
In-Reply-To: <E1qOHfI-006AmH-Tv@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qOHfI-006AmH-Tv@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <C86E342F-834D-4907-B023-3AA1216FCBA0@aol.com>

I bought one but it not fit in my boom track. It was too thick 

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:01 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Have you tried getting a plastic outhaul car from General Boats?  Some people have been able to get parts by emailing charles.gabriel at gmail.com.
> 
> --Peter
> 
>> On 2023-07-25, at 08:21:16 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for responding, sorry about your trailer.  I have a single axle trailer 
>> and I?m terrified to tow on highways. 
>> Regarding outhaul, I have a metal car, not the plastic car.   I bought the GB 
>> car and it did not fit in my boom track.  The metal car will slide if I raise 
>> boom but its length prohibits me from extending my sail fully out of mast, which 
>> is why I?m looking for alternatives. 
>> 
>> 
> 


From peter at sunnybeeches.com  Tue Jul 25 21:33:04 2023
From: peter at sunnybeeches.com (Peter Nyberg)
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 18:33:04 -0700
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
Message-ID: <E1qOTOi-008vNt-Ly@s152.servername.online>

Thomas,

Sorry to make you repeat yourself.  Obviously I need to work on my reading comprehension. 

--Peter

> On 2023-07-25, at 13:19:59 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>
> I bought one but it not fit in my boom track. It was too thick
> 
> 


From tvpolise at aol.com  Wed Jul 26 17:28:23 2023
From: tvpolise at aol.com (THOMAS POLISE)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 17:28:23 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Main sail outhaul
In-Reply-To: <E1qOTOi-008vNt-Ly@s152.servername.online>
References: <E1qOTOi-008vNt-Ly@s152.servername.online>
Message-ID: <EDDDCCF4-3261-421F-AF8D-1E6D810C7667@aol.com>

Peter, if my trailer wheel fell off while driving I wouldn?t be comprehending anything for quite some time.  

> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:33 PM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Thomas,
> 
> Sorry to make you repeat yourself.  Obviously I need to work on my reading comprehension. 
> 
> --Peter
> 
>> On 2023-07-25, at 13:19:59 EDT, THOMAS POLISE wrote:
>> 
>> I bought one but it not fit in my boom track. It was too thick
>> 
>> 
> 


From jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 06:06:53 2023
From: jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com (Jeff Smith Photo)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 06:06:53 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mainsail outhaul
Message-ID: <CAM0HAmnBWZLuyHmvT4reZj5F=syY9SRj=vo1HcSaJV7CDz-h8w@mail.gmail.com>

When my outhaul broke and before I could have a new one fabricated, I used
a metal slug from a previous boat which fit in the track and attached the
outhaul line to it. Your sail maker may be able to supply one that fits.

Best Regards
Jeff Smith
www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
732-236-1368

From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com  Thu Jul 27 18:03:07 2023
From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:03:07 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
Message-ID: <CY8PR10MB6683895BB5A0A46B3A04AD168001A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

Some people complain about their in-laws.  I go on high adventures with mine.  On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).  WSL marks the western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.  The lighthouse was built in 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light mounted on a steel tower nearby.  Over the years, there were a number of fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.  The lighthouse is said to be haunted!  During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.  The US Navy had a flight school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.  Both military programs sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.  Ken and I camped at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.  We made the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.  The first image is a GPS track log of our voyage.  You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of Mackinac via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.  The over the water distance from Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.

[cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]

You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without checking the weather.  Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.  On the morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the morning.  We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch ramp by 12:30 PM.  By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.  Despite the waves, we were able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.

The second image is me with WSL in the background:

[cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]

WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.  In the picture, you can see them all over the lighthouse.  Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a strong ammonia odor from their guano!  They did not like having us near the lighthouse.

The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:

[cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]

The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just below the water.  We had to be careful not to damage the prop.  We had several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we didn?t need to use them.  We decided not to enter the lighthouse because the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply disgusting!  In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because there is no stairway or ladder.

The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp:

[cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

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From bettyfriedman at comcast.net  Thu Jul 27 19:24:50 2023
From: bettyfriedman at comcast.net (Betty)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:24:50 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Sale of Boat
References: <96B343BF-DDE1-4F80-836A-D0A15BC7719D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2C6443C0-631C-48EB-9B62-308548B2F990@comcast.net>

Please let me know if you see this. Thank you so much, Betty and Ed
> 
> Hi Rhodes friends,
> 
>    I have been a lurker on this site for 40 years and am now 84 and ready to swallow
> the anchor. ?Miz Betty? is my second Rhodes. My first ?Danny Boy? was
> destroyed in Hurricane Gloria in 1985. 
> 
>    I originally met stan at the Stanford, ct boat show 
> in 1979. Stan was located in Babylon, NY in those days. He clearly had the best ?22?
> on the market. I gave him a deposit for a new boat to be delivered in the spring of 1980. 
> Since I was going to sail this boat on the ocean in long island sound, I wanted to see
> how the boat was made. I called him for a factory visit and a test sail. In Octoberf I flew there in a
> piper tripacer and landed on a grass strip at Zons airport located near his shop. 
> Stan met me at the airport in his old station wagon. He explained the construction of the boat 
> and took me for a test sail. It was blowing ?like stink? out there but as hard as I tried I couldn?t knock 
> the Rhodes down. Stan was mad as hell but he sold me the boat. I have been a fan of stan and Rhodes 
> for over 40 years.  But now it?s time. Please help me find a good home for ?Miz Betty?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ed  (and Betty my wife)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> FOR SALE 
> ?MIZ BETTY?
> 1985 Rhodes 22
> $4,000
> 
> On mooring at 
> Maxwell?s boatyard, Noank, CT
> 
> Furling in mast main 
> Storm/blade jib 
> working jib 110
> Genoa 130 light air
> (all sails hank on good condition)
> Custom Sunbrella cushions
> Matching throw pillows
> 3 cockpit cushions
> (Good condition)
> 
> Yamaha 4 HP/4 stroke engine
> 2 anchors with line
> 2 boat hooks
> life jackets
> etc
> 
> call or text
> ed
> 860-392-9519
> 
> 
> 
> 

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From pbryanriley at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 19:56:17 2023
From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:56:17 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Sale of Boat
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References: <96B343BF-DDE1-4F80-836A-D0A15BC7719D@comcast.net>
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I see it.
Patrick


On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 7:24 PM Betty <bettyfriedman at comcast.net> wrote:

> Please let me know if you see this. Thank you so much, Betty and Ed
> >
> > Hi Rhodes friends,
> >
> >    I have been a lurker on this site for 40 years and am now 84 and
> ready to swallow
> > the anchor. ?Miz Betty? is my second Rhodes. My first ?Danny Boy? was
> > destroyed in Hurricane Gloria in 1985.
> >
> >    I originally met stan at the Stanford, ct boat show
> > in 1979. Stan was located in Babylon, NY in those days. He clearly had
> the best ?22?
> > on the market. I gave him a deposit for a new boat to be delivered in
> the spring of 1980.
> > Since I was going to sail this boat on the ocean in long island sound, I
> wanted to see
> > how the boat was made. I called him for a factory visit and a test sail.
> In Octoberf I flew there in a
> > piper tripacer and landed on a grass strip at Zons airport located near
> his shop.
> > Stan met me at the airport in his old station wagon. He explained the
> construction of the boat
> > and took me for a test sail. It was blowing ?like stink? out there but
> as hard as I tried I couldn?t knock
> > the Rhodes down. Stan was mad as hell but he sold me the boat. I have
> been a fan of stan and Rhodes
> > for over 40 years.  But now it?s time. Please help me find a good home
> for ?Miz Betty?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ed  (and Betty my wife)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > FOR SALE
> > ?MIZ BETTY?
> > 1985 Rhodes 22
> > $4,000
> >
> > On mooring at
> > Maxwell?s boatyard, Noank, CT
> >
> > Furling in mast main
> > Storm/blade jib
> > working jib 110
> > Genoa 130 light air
> > (all sails hank on good condition)
> > Custom Sunbrella cushions
> > Matching throw pillows
> > 3 cockpit cushions
> > (Good condition)
> >
> > Yamaha 4 HP/4 stroke engine
> > 2 anchors with line
> > 2 boat hooks
> > life jackets
> > etc
> >
> > call or text
> > ed
> > 860-392-9519
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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From mgwilson1916 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 21:48:36 2023
From: mgwilson1916 at gmail.com (mike wilson)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 21:48:36 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Fwd: Sale of Boat
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+C=TccqaAb=i+=ud-4OyA0ibY3wcv+v_zVhTd2KjenFNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96B343BF-DDE1-4F80-836A-D0A15BC7719D@comcast.net>
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Yes I see it too
mike

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 7:56?PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see it.
> Patrick
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 7:24 PM Betty <bettyfriedman at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Please let me know if you see this. Thank you so much, Betty and Ed
> > >
> > > Hi Rhodes friends,
> > >
> > >    I have been a lurker on this site for 40 years and am now 84 and
> > ready to swallow
> > > the anchor. ?Miz Betty? is my second Rhodes. My first ?Danny Boy? was
> > > destroyed in Hurricane Gloria in 1985.
> > >
> > >    I originally met stan at the Stanford, ct boat show
> > > in 1979. Stan was located in Babylon, NY in those days. He clearly had
> > the best ?22?
> > > on the market. I gave him a deposit for a new boat to be delivered in
> > the spring of 1980.
> > > Since I was going to sail this boat on the ocean in long island sound,
> I
> > wanted to see
> > > how the boat was made. I called him for a factory visit and a test
> sail.
> > In Octoberf I flew there in a
> > > piper tripacer and landed on a grass strip at Zons airport located near
> > his shop.
> > > Stan met me at the airport in his old station wagon. He explained the
> > construction of the boat
> > > and took me for a test sail. It was blowing ?like stink? out there but
> > as hard as I tried I couldn?t knock
> > > the Rhodes down. Stan was mad as hell but he sold me the boat. I have
> > been a fan of stan and Rhodes
> > > for over 40 years.  But now it?s time. Please help me find a good home
> > for ?Miz Betty?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ed  (and Betty my wife)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > FOR SALE
> > > ?MIZ BETTY?
> > > 1985 Rhodes 22
> > > $4,000
> > >
> > > On mooring at
> > > Maxwell?s boatyard, Noank, CT
> > >
> > > Furling in mast main
> > > Storm/blade jib
> > > working jib 110
> > > Genoa 130 light air
> > > (all sails hank on good condition)
> > > Custom Sunbrella cushions
> > > Matching throw pillows
> > > 3 cockpit cushions
> > > (Good condition)
> > >
> > > Yamaha 4 HP/4 stroke engine
> > > 2 anchors with line
> > > 2 boat hooks
> > > life jackets
> > > etc
> > >
> > > call or text
> > > ed
> > > 860-392-9519
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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From goldsmith.cf at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 22:14:09 2023
From: goldsmith.cf at gmail.com (Frank Goldsmith)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:14:09 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sale of Boat
In-Reply-To: <CAJGJx+C=TccqaAb=i+=ud-4OyA0ibY3wcv+v_zVhTd2KjenFNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96B343BF-DDE1-4F80-836A-D0A15BC7719D@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <30F54F00-31CE-4594-8AB4-53737D8787A8@gmail.com>

Me, too.  Great story about meeting Stan and testing the boat.  Hope she finds a good home.  

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC


> On Jul 27, 2023, at 7:56 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I see it.
> Patrick
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 7:24 PM Betty <bettyfriedman at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Please let me know if you see this. Thank you so much, Betty and Ed
>>> 
>>> Hi Rhodes friends,
>>> 
>>>   I have been a lurker on this site for 40 years and am now 84 and
>> ready to swallow
>>> the anchor. ?Miz Betty? is my second Rhodes. My first ?Danny Boy? was
>>> destroyed in Hurricane Gloria in 1985.
>>> 
>>>   I originally met stan at the Stanford, ct boat show
>>> in 1979. Stan was located in Babylon, NY in those days. He clearly had
>> the best ?22?
>>> on the market. I gave him a deposit for a new boat to be delivered in
>> the spring of 1980.
>>> Since I was going to sail this boat on the ocean in long island sound, I
>> wanted to see
>>> how the boat was made. I called him for a factory visit and a test sail.
>> In Octoberf I flew there in a
>>> piper tripacer and landed on a grass strip at Zons airport located near
>> his shop.
>>> Stan met me at the airport in his old station wagon. He explained the
>> construction of the boat
>>> and took me for a test sail. It was blowing ?like stink? out there but
>> as hard as I tried I couldn?t knock
>>> the Rhodes down. Stan was mad as hell but he sold me the boat. I have
>> been a fan of stan and Rhodes
>>> for over 40 years.  But now it?s time. Please help me find a good home
>> for ?Miz Betty?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ed  (and Betty my wife)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> FOR SALE
>>> ?MIZ BETTY?
>>> 1985 Rhodes 22
>>> $4,000
>>> 
>>> On mooring at
>>> Maxwell?s boatyard, Noank, CT
>>> 
>>> Furling in mast main
>>> Storm/blade jib
>>> working jib 110
>>> Genoa 130 light air
>>> (all sails hank on good condition)
>>> Custom Sunbrella cushions
>>> Matching throw pillows
>>> 3 cockpit cushions
>>> (Good condition)
>>> 
>>> Yamaha 4 HP/4 stroke engine
>>> 2 anchors with line
>>> 2 boat hooks
>>> life jackets
>>> etc
>>> 
>>> call or text
>>> ed
>>> 860-392-9519
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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From lvjkuhn at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 22:50:39 2023
From: lvjkuhn at gmail.com (Lee Kuhn)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:50:39 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
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Cool adventure! Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 6:03 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Some people complain about their in-laws.  I go on high adventures with
> mine.  On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a
> mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).  WSL marks the
> western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.  The lighthouse was built in
> 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light
> mounted on a steel tower nearby.  Over the years, there were a number of
> fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.  The lighthouse is
> said to be haunted!  During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air
> Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.  The US Navy had a flight
> school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air
> Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.  Both military programs
> sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.  Ken and I camped
> at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.  We made
> the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable
> Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.  The first image is a GPS track
> log of our voyage.  You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of Mackinac
> via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and
> St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.  The over the water distance from Big
> Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.
>
> [cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
>
> You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without
> checking the weather.  Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.  On the
> morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the
> morning.  We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch
> ramp by 12:30 PM.  By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in
> and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.  Despite the waves, we were
> able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.
>
> The second image is me with WSL in the background:
>
> [cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
>
> WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.  In the picture, you can see
> them all over the lighthouse.  Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a
> strong ammonia odor from their guano!  They did not like having us near the
> lighthouse.
>
> The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:
>
> [cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
>
> The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just
> below the water.  We had to be careful not to damage the prop.  We had
> several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we
> didn?t need to use them.  We decided not to enter the lighthouse because
> the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply
> disgusting!  In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because
> there is no stairway or ladder.
>
> The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch
> Ramp:
>
> [cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
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From chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com  Thu Jul 27 23:14:18 2023
From: chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com (Chris Geankoplis)
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2023 22:14:18 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
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What a neat thing to do!  I?ve got a brother-in-law like that and shared a
couple of adventures with him too. Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 9:50 PM Lee Kuhn <lvjkuhn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Cool adventure! Thanks for sharing.
>
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2023, 6:03 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Some people complain about their in-laws.  I go on high adventures with
> > mine.  On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a
> > mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).  WSL marks the
> > western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.  The lighthouse was built in
> > 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light
> > mounted on a steel tower nearby.  Over the years, there were a number of
> > fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.  The lighthouse
> is
> > said to be haunted!  During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air
> > Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.  The US Navy had a flight
> > school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army
> Air
> > Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.  Both military programs
> > sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.  Ken and I
> camped
> > at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.  We
> made
> > the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable
> > Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.  The first image is a GPS track
> > log of our voyage.  You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of
> Mackinac
> > via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and
> > St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.  The over the water distance from Big
> > Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.
> >
> > [cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
> >
> > You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without
> > checking the weather.  Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.  On the
> > morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the
> > morning.  We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch
> > ramp by 12:30 PM.  By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in
> > and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.  Despite the waves, we were
> > able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.
> >
> > The second image is me with WSL in the background:
> >
> > [cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
> >
> > WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.  In the picture, you can see
> > them all over the lighthouse.  Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a
> > strong ammonia odor from their guano!  They did not like having us near
> the
> > lighthouse.
> >
> > The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:
> >
> > [cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
> >
> > The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just
> > below the water.  We had to be careful not to damage the prop.  We had
> > several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we
> > didn?t need to use them.  We decided not to enter the lighthouse because
> > the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply
> > disgusting!  In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because
> > there is no stairway or ladder.
> >
> > The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch
> > Ramp:
> >
> > [cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >
> > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >
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From jpd9668 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 10:04:49 2023
From: jpd9668 at gmail.com (jpd9668)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 10:04:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
In-Reply-To: <CY8PR10MB6683895BB5A0A46B3A04AD168001A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
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Hey Roger,Good to see you out on the water besides purveying your tech and engineering expertise on The List.Joe DempseyTrojan 42??M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VA??Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> Date: 7/27/23  6:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse Hi All,Some people complain about their in-laws.? I go on high adventures with mine.? On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).? WSL marks the western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.? The lighthouse was built in 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light mounted on a steel tower nearby.? Over the years, there were a number of fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.? The lighthouse is said to be haunted!? During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.? The US Navy had a flight school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.? Both military programs sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.? Ken and I camped at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.? We made the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.? The first image is a GPS track log of our voyage.? You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of Mackinac via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.? The over the water distance from Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.[cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without checking the weather.? Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.? On the morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the morning.? We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch ramp by 12:30 PM.? By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.? Despite the waves, we were able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.The second image is me with WSL in the background:[cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.? In the picture, you can see them all over the lighthouse.? Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a strong ammonia odor from their guano!? They did not like having us near the lighthouse.The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:[cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just below the water.? We had to be careful not to damage the prop.? We had several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we didn?t need to use them.? We decided not to enter the lighthouse because the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply disgusting!? In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because there is no stairway or ladder.The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp:[cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]Roger PihlajaS/V Dynamic EquilibriumSent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngType: image/pngSize: 219121 bytesDesc: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.png>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 163255 bytesDesc: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 150775 bytesDesc: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0001.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 298330 bytesDesc: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0002.jpg>

From rodellner at mac.com  Fri Jul 28 11:10:03 2023
From: rodellner at mac.com (Rod Ellner)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:10:03 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
In-Reply-To: <64c3cb12.9d0a0220.47b14.9abf@mx.google.com>
References: <64c3cb12.9d0a0220.47b14.9abf@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CD241427-29A7-44FE-B83E-E9B3A9F1694C@mac.com>

Thanks for sharing Roger

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2023, at 8:05 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hey Roger,Good to see you out on the water besides purveying your tech and engineering expertise on The List.Joe DempseyTrojan 42  M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VA  Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> Date: 7/27/23  6:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse Hi All,Some people complain about their in-laws.  I go on high adventures with mine.  On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).  WSL marks the western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.  The lighthouse was built in 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light mounted on a steel tower nearby.  Over the years, there were a number of fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.  The lighthouse is said to be haunted!  During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.  The US Navy had a flight school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.  Both military programs sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.  Ken and I camped at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.  We made the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.  The first image is a GPS track log of our voyage.  You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of Mackinac via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.  The over the water distance from Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.[cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without checking the weather.  Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.  On the morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the morning.  We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch ramp by 12:30 PM.  By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.  Despite the waves, we were able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.The second image is me with WSL in the background:[cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.  In the picture, you can see them all over the lighthouse.  Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a strong ammonia odor from their guano!  They did not like having us near the lighthouse.The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:[cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just below the water.  We had to be careful not to damage the prop.  We had several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we didn?t need to use them.  We decided not to enter the lighthouse because the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply disgusting!  In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because there is no stairway or ladder.The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp:[cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]Roger PihlajaS/V Dynamic EquilibriumSent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngType: image/pngSize: 219121 bytesDesc: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.png>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 163255 bytesDesc: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 150775 bytesDesc: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0001.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 298330 bytesDesc: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0002.jpg>

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 28 12:45:58 2023
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:45:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
In-Reply-To: <CD241427-29A7-44FE-B83E-E9B3A9F1694C@mac.com>
References: <64c3cb12.9d0a0220.47b14.9abf@mx.google.com>
 <CD241427-29A7-44FE-B83E-E9B3A9F1694C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <1017668578.6626494.1690562758253@mail.yahoo.com>

Guys? I shared on an earlier.post that I lost a rudder in a storage fire. Does anyone know of a rudder that is an available replacement? Thx, Art

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:10 AM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:   Thanks for sharing Roger

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2023, at 8:05 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?Hey Roger,Good to see you out on the water besides purveying your tech and engineering expertise on The List.Joe DempseyTrojan 42? M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VA? Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> Date: 7/27/23? 6:03 PM? (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse Hi All,Some people complain about their in-laws.? I go on high adventures with mine.? On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law, Ken Mild and I mounted a mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal Lighthouse (WSL).? WSL marks the western entrance to the Straits of Mackinac.? The lighthouse was built in 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in favor of an unmanned automated light mounted on a steel tower nearby.? Over the years, there were a number of fatalities both construction workers and light keepers.? The lighthouse is said to be haunted!? During WW-2, both the US Navy and the US Army Air Corps used WSL as a practice bombing target.? The US Navy had a flight school complete with an aircraft carrier in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air Corps had a flight school in Traverse City, MI.? Both military programs sent pilot trainees on bombing missions to WSL and back.? Ken and I camped at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles west of Mackinac City, MI.? We made the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11 feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.? The first image is a GPS track log of our voyage.? You can see I-75 crossing over the Straits of Mackinac via the Mackinaw Bridge between Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and St. Ignace in the Upper Peninsula.? The over the water distance from Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp to WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.[cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]You don?t just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without checking the weather.? Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.? On the morning of the July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the morning.? We got an early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch ramp by 12:30 PM.? By then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in and we had 2-3 ft waves that were building.? Despite the waves, we were able to get the RIB back onto the trailer without any damage.The second image is me with WSL in the background:[cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]WSL is home to a large cormorant colony now.? In the picture, you can see them all over the lighthouse.? Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a strong ammonia odor from their guano!? They did not like having us near the lighthouse.The 3rd picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:[cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]The whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just below the water.? We had to be careful not to damage the prop.? We had several spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we didn?t need to use them.? We decided not to enter the lighthouse because the cormorants were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply disgusting!? In any case we would have needed rock climbing gear because there is no stairway or ladder.The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp:[cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]Roger PihlajaS/V Dynamic EquilibriumSent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngType: image/pngSize: 219121 bytesDesc: FA23BFDD0B0B4143B4303A8B1DCA22D7.pngURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.png>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 163255 bytesDesc: 477A20DF3CE54BF2A6CFD6524AA18938.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 150775 bytesDesc: 1A7A0D812B2B4102837C4F08AE8C50BD.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0001.jpg>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgType: image/jpegSize: 298330 bytesDesc: 2E6D032F77F14256AF47D9F2F6803A7C.jpgURL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20230727/3900a38d/attachment-0002.jpg>
  

From canusmajor54 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 28 13:52:05 2023
From: canusmajor54 at gmail.com (Jeff Kantor)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:52:05 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip to a haunted lighthouse
In-Reply-To: <1017668578.6626494.1690562758253@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <64c3cb12.9d0a0220.47b14.9abf@mx.google.com>
 <CD241427-29A7-44FE-B83E-E9B3A9F1694C@mac.com>
 <1017668578.6626494.1690562758253@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CA+qybHGH7gusBbO4=vwkQzW5RxYOxMp7e1s5=0xu81vbmsQggQ@mail.gmail.com>

I have a blade from an early 70's Rhodes.  I'll look at it in storage and
send dimensions.

On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 12:46 PM Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <
rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:

> Guys  I shared on an earlier.post that I lost a rudder in a storage fire.
> Does anyone know of a rudder that is an available replacement? Thx, Art
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:10 AM, Rod Ellner via Rhodes22-list<
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:   Thanks for sharing Roger
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 28, 2023, at 8:05 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hey Roger,Good to see you out on the water besides purveying your tech
> and engineering expertise on The List.Joe DempseyTrojan 42  M/V
> VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VA  Sent via the Samsung
> Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> > -------- Original message --------From: ROGER PIHLAJA <
> Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> Date: 7/27/23  6:03 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes
> 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trip
> to a haunted lighthouse Hi All,Some people complain about their in-laws.  I
> go on high adventures with mine.  On July 11-13, 2023; my brother-in-law,
> Ken Mild and I mounted a mini expedition to the Waugoshance Shoal
> Lighthouse (WSL).  WSL marks the western entrance to the Straits of
> Mackinac.  The lighthouse was built in 1851 and deactivated in 1912 in
> favor of an unmanned automated light mounted on a steel tower nearby.  Over
> the years, there were a number of fatalities both construction workers and
> light keepers.  The lighthouse is said to be haunted!  During WW-2, both
> the US Navy and the US Army Air Corps used WSL as a practice bombing
> target.  The US Navy had a flight school complete with an aircraft carrier
> in Chicago, IL and the US Army Air Corps had a flight school in Traverse
> City, MI.  Both military programs sent pilot trainees on bombing missions
> to WSL and back.  Ken and I camped at Wilderness State Park about 12 miles
> west of Mackinac City, MI.  We made the trip in my Walker Bay 3.4 meter (11
> feet 1.8 inch) Rigid Inflatable Boat (RIB) with a Honda 9.9 hp outboard.
> The first image is a GPS track log of our voyage.  You can see I-75
> crossing over the Straits of Mackinac via the Mackinaw Bridge between
> Mackinac City in the Lower Peninsula and St. Ignace in the Upper
> Peninsula.  The over the water distance from Big Stone Bay Launch Ramp to
> WSL is about 10 miles 1-way.[cid:image002.png at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]You don?t
> just go into the Straits of Mackinac in an 11? LOA RIB without checking the
> weather.  Fortunately, Lake Michigan was kind to us.  On the morning of the
> July 12th, we had a nice stable weather window for the morning.  We got an
> early start, visited WSL, and were back at the launch ramp by 12:30 PM.  By
> then, the lake effect on shore wind was kicking in and we had 2-3 ft waves
> that were building.  Despite the waves, we were able to get the RIB back
> onto the trailer without any damage.The second image is me with WSL in the
> background:[cid:image005.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]WSL is home to a large
> cormorant colony now.  In the picture, you can see them all over the
> lighthouse.  Downwind of the lighthouse, there was a strong ammonia odor
> from their guano!  They did not like having us near the lighthouse.The 3rd
> picture is Ken leaning on the bas of WSL:[cid:image009.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]The
> whole area around WSL is very shallow with boulders above and just below
> the water.  We had to be careful not to damage the prop.  We had several
> spare shear pins and even an extra prop just in case; but, we didn?t need
> to use them.  We decided not to enter the lighthouse because the cormorants
> were very riled up and the mess they?ve made is simply disgusting!  In any
> case we would have needed rock climbing gear because there is no stairway
> or ladder.The 4th picture is the RIB back on the trailer at Big Stone Bay
> Launch Ramp:[cid:image011.jpg at 01D9C0B5.2B64F330]Roger PihlajaS/V Dynamic
> EquilibriumSent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
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From Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com  Sat Jul 29 08:52:23 2023
From: Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:52:23 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Another EV Car Carrying Ship Goes Up In Flames
Message-ID: <CY8PR10MB6683DDCF5CFA3F3896D7231C8007A@CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

A modern dedicated car carrying ship, built only 12 years ago, the M/V Fremantle Highway, 650 LOA, with a cargo of 3783 cars including 498 EV?s has caught fire and is burning off the Dutch coast.  The cause of the fire is unknown; but, it is known that did start in the area of the hold containing the EV?s.  The newsreel footage shows the characteristic white smoke produced by lithium ion battery fires.  So far, only 1 fatality, but dozens of injuries.  If the Li ion battery packs from nearly 500 EV?s get burning; then, there?s not much hope to save this ship.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows


From michael.4591 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 31 13:15:49 2023
From: michael.4591 at gmail.com (Michael Corley)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:15:49 -0400
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Trailer trouble
In-Reply-To: <CAM0HAm=aSEDN9KYaOQn8gcDW2f1N_1wUszMjY0aX_r5sJKhsKA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0HAm=aSEDN9KYaOQn8gcDW2f1N_1wUszMjY0aX_r5sJKhsKA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACSd1jKAgPpbzSrOUr7_aXerm7fTGps9QwsMZa6pDt8ywVWyOg@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff,
    For $3K i hope you got more than just brakes.  I had my 25 yr old Triad
trailer rebuilt by Triad for less than that in 2018. Stainless Steel disk
surge brakes definitely the way to go.  I immediately noticed a difference
when towing.  It is a single axle (6,000lb rated) trailer.  Picture
attached, hopefully.

Mike
S/V Ranger
99 Rhodes

[image: image.png]


On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 6:28?AM Jeff Smith Photo <jeffsmithphoto at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It's good that you your car and the boat suffered no damage.
> I am planning a 1600 mile round trip to the north Channel of Lake Huron
> starting today. When I took the trailer in for servicing they told me that
> the surge drum brakes were totally shot. I'm sure they were not working
> when I traveled the boat to Maine and to the Chesapeake.
> $3,000 later I had a new set of disc brakes. But the shop told me that when
> I disconnected the hydraulic line in order to use the 10-ft extended
> tongue, I could be introducing air into the system which would make the
> brakes inoperable. Not wanting to take a chance for the long trip I had the
> yard pulled the boat with straps on the Travel lift and put it on the
> trailer. This both allowed a good pressure wash bottom cleaning and got the
> boat far forward on the trailer to increase tongue weight. I will do the
> same launching and retrieving at Little Current Ontario. Pricey, but safety
> first.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff Smith
> www.http://JeffSmithPhoto.Net
> 732-236-1368
>
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