[Rhodes22-list] Inner Shroud Issues

Thu Nov 9 13:13:13 EST 2023

Thanks Todd.

The images didn’t come through for me.

I am MN so I’ll either get to it  in the spring or have my local shop do
something over winter.

The port side bracket is a bit loose.  The one in the picture I sent has no
play at all. Looks like that bolt that you can see from inside the cabin
must go all the way through. If it is solid thus far is there still a need
to fix besides sealing for moisture?

Matt

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 12:02 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Matt,
> I don't know what part of the country you live in, but it's getting pretty
> late in the year to do fiberglass and epoxy work here in Maryland.
>
> I took a different tack fixing my chainplates.
> The plywood core had been wet at some point but then dry for many years.
> The core and thickened epoxy had separated and the plywood dry rotted and
> became friable. The obvious sign of a problem for me was loose floppy
> chainplates.
> I cut access holes in the side cabin walls. Then cut the old chainplates
> off with a 2" cut-off disk, making sure to cut before the bend.
> I made reinforcement plates from ⅜" (?) thick oak, sealed with 2 coats of
> epoxy, then epoxied them to the inner side of the outer cabin walls with
> thickened epoxy.
>
> I dry fit everything in place first, so that the chainplate bolts (¼-20
> machine screws) would do the clamping.
>
> My boat is older, doesn't have the hatches, and I was concerned more with
> making it stronger than worried how it looks.
>
> In hindsight, I probably should have just the whole top off and replaced
> all of the core wood, but just don't have the time, or patience.
>
>
>
> Todd T.
>
> Something like the attached sketches. They may not come out in order or
> oriented right.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 12:39 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Todd for your help and diagram.  How many more sails till this
> pulls
> > apart?  ;)
> >
> > Can I get by by attaching two metal plates above and below the deck after
> > resealing to keep moisture out or is it too compromised already? the
> plates
> > would the fiberglass mess.  I am just a casual lake sailor so I'm not
> sure
> > how much I want to get into this kind of project.
> >
> > Have you or anyone else on the list done this repair?  I'm a total newbie
> > to this kind of project.
> >
> > Matt W
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 11:15 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > You may have no choice but to pull the hatch; which will aid in the
> > repair,
> > > replace the core, epoxy, glass etc.
> > >
> > > This quick sketch doesn't account for the hatch being so close to the
> > > chainplate but it shows how the cabintop is constructed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Todd T
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 12:03 PM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > There is a right way which involves a ton of work, and there is an
> > > > adequate way.
> > > > The hard way is cutting away the cabin top removing any loose, wet,
> > > rotted
> > > > or dry rotted core material. Then epoxy in new plywood core, re-glass
> > the
> > > > cabin top, fair paint.
> > > > The alternative is to cut an access hole in the cabin wall. (Cut the
> > > > chainplate with a die grinder to pull it out from above or leave it
> in
> > > > place). Then put the chainplate on the outside of the cabin wall and
> a
> > > > backing plate inside.
> > > >
> > > > But looking at your pics, you may have no alternative that to cut
> away
> > > the
> > > > cabintop.
> > > >
> > > > Todd T.
> > > >
> > > > PS. I'll try to make a couple of pencil sketches so you know what is
> > > > inside.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 11:30 AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello everyone,
> > > >>
> > > >> I am asking for guidance on my current issues with the forward inner
> > > >> shrouds.  It appears someone had over tightened them in the past and
> > > made
> > > >> some attempts to shore them up.  I will include pictures oif what is
> > > going
> > > >> on from below and topside.  My question is is this something I
> > > >> should completely rework or should I only make attempts to keep
> water
> > > out
> > > >> by sealing up the deck around them?
> > > >>
> > > >> Many thanks for your help,
> > > >> Matt Wilson
> > > >> Hornblower II
> > > >> White Bear Lake, MN
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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