[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4516, Issue 1
Betty Friedman
bettyfriedman at comcast.net
Thu Oct 19 08:18:17 EDT 2023
I am selling “Miz Betty” a Rhodes 22 located in Mystic Connecticut. The new buyer needs to rent a trailer. The boat will be going to cold Spring Harbor New York. Any advice will be welcome. Thanks, Ed
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> 1. Re: ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW THIS WEEK (Tom Hyatt)
> 2. Re: IMF rigging (PBR)
> 3. Re: IMF rigging (PBR)
> 4. Re: IMF rigging (jpd9668)
> 5. ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW THIS WEEK (peter beckerman)
> 6. Re: IMF rigging (Ric Stott)
> 7. Re: Boat Show (Michael Corley)
> 8. Annapolis 2023 (Charles Gabriel)
> 9. Re: R22 Owners in Baltimore Area? (Bob Garrant)
> 10. Re: R22 Owners in Baltimore Area? (Jay Friedland)
> 11. 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Matt Wilson)
> 12. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> 13. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Graham Stewart)
> 14. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Matt Wilson)
> 15. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Bob Garrant)
> 16. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Ric Stott)
> 17. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (DAVID BERG)
> 18. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> 19. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (DAVID BERG)
> 20. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Michael D. Weisner)
> 21. Re: 2007 Trailmaster trailer question (Matt Wilson)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 19:49:19 -0400
> From: Tom Hyatt <thyatt at mica.edu>
> To: mweisner at ebsmed.com
> Cc: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW THIS WEEK
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> Thanks for the info. I'll be there on Saturday. Looking forward to meeting
> Stan and other Rhodes owners.
>
> Tom Hyatt
>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:33?PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The Rhodes 22 (General Boats) exhibit is at Land 61 & 62. See the attached
>> images.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom
>> Hyatt via Rhodes22-list
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 6:19 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW THIS WEEK
>>
>> I will be there on Saturday at around one pm. I hope to talk with Stan and
>> meet other Rhodes owners. Stan?where will you be so that I can find you?
>> Will there be a Rhodes 22 on display anywhere ?
>>
>> Tom Hyatt
>> S/V Eliza Jane 1978
>> Baltimore
>>
>>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:20:00 -0700
> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging
> Message-ID:
> <CAJGJx+B2wZq=p3TAVbDPLhNpGm7SGMJbiTwxicr00yuJEusfLg at mail.gmail.com>
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> Ric,
> I don't have any pics of the furling line and I am not near the boat, but
> thinking about it I don't think I have any block or bail. Just a couple of
> small cleats along the bottom or side, one near then end another closer to
> the mast so when the line is all the way out I wrap it and cleat it. When
> sail is furled cleated off too. Maybe others are different. I have a few
> pics. of outhauls I could send, mostly the "new" through boom version.
> Patrick
>
>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:42?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks - it helps some, but I can?t see the turning block at the end of
>> the boom.
>> Is it a fixed block or is it attached to a small bail?
>> R
>>
>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>> O -631-283-1777
>> C- 516-965-3164
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:51 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hope this helps. Note that old style traveller was still in use.i
>> upgraded to the newer style in 2019.Joe DempseyTrojan 42 M/V VoyagerFormer
>> Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an
>> AT&T 5G smartphone
>>> -------- Original message --------From: Ric Stott <
>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> Date: 10/10/23 9:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: The
>> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:
>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging HI Crew I have assembled all the parts for my
>> IMF mast and will have it ready for next season. I have question about how
>> the main sail furler lines are run.My 2nd hand boom has a loose block at
>> the aft end held by a small bail. I understand this is old-school and
>> improved with a fixed turning block. Can someone take a picture of their
>> fixed turning block at the back of the boom? Thanks in advance. Ric
>> Dadventure Hampton Bays, NY Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>> ric at stottarchitecture.comO -631-283-1777C- 516-965-3164
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 17:31:25 -0700
> From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging
> Message-ID:
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> Upon further consideration I think I installed a jam cleat on the side of
> the boom to assist when main is partially furled..
>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 5:20?PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ric,
>> I don't have any pics of the furling line and I am not near the boat, but
>> thinking about it I don't think I have any block or bail. Just a couple of
>> small cleats along the bottom or side, one near then end another closer to
>> the mast so when the line is all the way out I wrap it and cleat it. When
>> sail is furled cleated off too. Maybe others are different. I have a few
>> pics. of outhauls I could send, mostly the "new" through boom version.
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:42?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks - it helps some, but I can?t see the turning block at the end of
>>> the boom.
>>> Is it a fixed block or is it attached to a small bail?
>>> R
>>>
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> O -631-283-1777
>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:51 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps. Note that old style traveller was still in use.i
>>> upgraded to the newer style in 2019.Joe DempseyTrojan 42 M/V VoyagerFormer
>>> Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an
>>> AT&T 5G smartphone
>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Ric Stott <
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> Date: 10/10/23 9:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: The
>>> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:
>>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging HI Crew I have assembled all the parts for my
>>> IMF mast and will have it ready for next season. I have question about how
>>> the main sail furler lines are run.My 2nd hand boom has a loose block at
>>> the aft end held by a small bail. I understand this is old-school and
>>> improved with a fixed turning block. Can someone take a picture of their
>>> fixed turning block at the back of the boom? Thanks in advance. Ric
>>> Dadventure Hampton Bays, NY Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.comO -631-283-1777C- 516-965-3164
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>>>
>>>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:50:49 -0400
> From: jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging
> Message-ID: <652742ee.920a0220.581e4.0b1c at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Not sure what a turni g block is but the fiddle block is attached to the bale on the end of the boomJoe DempseyTrojan 42M/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> Date: 10/11/23 8:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging Ric,I don't have any pics of the furling line and I am not near the boat, butthinking about it I don't think I have any block or bail.? Just a couple ofsmall cleats along the bottom or side,? one near then end another closer tothe mast so when the line is all the way out I wrap it and cleat it.? Whensail is furled cleated off too.? Maybe others are different.? I have a fewpics. of outhauls I could send, mostly the "new" through boom version.PatrickOn Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:42?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:> Thanks - it helps some, but I can?t see the? turning block at the end of> the boom.> Is it a fixed block or is it attached to a small bail?> R>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP> ric at stottarchitecture.com> O -631-283-1777> C- 516-965-3164>>>> > On Oct 11, 20
> 23, at 9:51 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:> >> > Hope this helps. Note that old style traveller was still in use.i> upgraded to the newer style in 2019.Joe DempseyTrojan 42 M/V VoyagerFormer> Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an> AT&T 5G smartphone> > -------- Original message --------From: Ric Stott <> ric at stottarchitecture.com> Date: 10/10/23? 9:37 AM? (GMT-05:00) To: The> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:> [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging HI Crew I have assembled all the parts for my> IMF mast and will have it ready for next season. I have question about how> the main sail furler lines are? run.My 2nd hand boom has a loose? block at> the aft end held by a small bail. I understand this is old-school and> improved with a fixed turning block. Can someone take a picture of their> fixed turning block at the back of the boom? Thanks in advance. Ric> Dadventure Hampton Bays, NY Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP> ric at st
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 02:26:21 +0000 (UTC)
> From: peter beckerman <recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com>
> To: "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] ANNAPOLIS BOAT SHOW THIS WEEK
> Message-ID: <1562569741.4678303.1697077581802 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> I plan to attend Friday and Saturday.? Looking forward to meeting Stan and any Rhodies who are about.
> Peter Beckerman.
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 07:55:38 -0400
> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging
> Message-ID:
> <28104705-9FAB-413E-BA6B-4E514ABFF91A at stottarchitecture.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks Patrick. Charles Gabriel sent me the pic I need.
> Ric
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 8:20 PM, PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Ric,
>> I don't have any pics of the furling line and I am not near the boat, but
>> thinking about it I don't think I have any block or bail. Just a couple of
>> small cleats along the bottom or side, one near then end another closer to
>> the mast so when the line is all the way out I wrap it and cleat it. When
>> sail is furled cleated off too. Maybe others are different. I have a few
>> pics. of outhauls I could send, mostly the "new" through boom version.
>> Patrick
>>
>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:42?AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks - it helps some, but I can?t see the turning block at the end of
>>> the boom.
>>> Is it a fixed block or is it attached to a small bail?
>>> R
>>>
>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> O -631-283-1777
>>> C- 516-965-3164
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 9:51 AM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps. Note that old style traveller was still in use.i
>>> upgraded to the newer style in 2019.Joe DempseyTrojan 42 M/V VoyagerFormer
>>> Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VASent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an
>>> AT&T 5G smartphone
>>>> -------- Original message --------From: Ric Stott <
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> Date: 10/10/23 9:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: The
>>> Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> Subject:
>>> [Rhodes22-list] IMF rigging HI Crew I have assembled all the parts for my
>>> IMF mast and will have it ready for next season. I have question about how
>>> the main sail furler lines are run.My 2nd hand boom has a loose block at
>>> the aft end held by a small bail. I understand this is old-school and
>>> improved with a fixed turning block. Can someone take a picture of their
>>> fixed turning block at the back of the boom? Thanks in advance. Ric
>>> Dadventure Hampton Bays, NY Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.comO -631-283-1777C- 516-965-3164
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>>>
>>>
>
>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:18:01 -0400
> From: Michael Corley <michael.4591 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Show
> Message-ID:
> <CACSd1j+RxPZuZgs0c+UNugjAtF2TLmZYX9zUzxtxjtY5KTF-oQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I will be there today thru Sunday. Look forward to seeing all the Rhodies
> and spending time with Stan. Your help is definitely appreciated.
>
> -Mike
> 99 Rhodes
> Hampton Roads, VA.
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:31?AM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> After much anticipation, I now have to be in Columbus that weekend. Darn.
>> Best regards to all of you. I?ll be available to any interested parties
>> with questions about cruising the Rhodes. Feel free to pass out my email.
>> Chris Geankoplis
>> Xenos.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 8:14 AM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I?ll be there on Saturday
>>>
>>> Tom Hyatt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 8:21 AM daysails--- via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I will be at the Annapolis Boat Show on Sunday and plan to stop by to
>> say
>>>> hello to Stan and the crew. I will stand in as a volunteer salesman
>> and
>>>> greet the throng of on lookers all eager to become Rhodies. Is anyone
>>> else
>>>> planning to attend?
>>>> Joe RileySecond Wind (Lake Hartwell)Athens Georgia
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 12:12:46 -0400
> From: Charles Gabriel <charles.gabriel at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Annapolis 2023
> Message-ID:
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> Good Morning from Annapolis.
> Looking forward to seeing you all!
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:56:57 -0400
> From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> To: Tom Hyatt <thyatt at mica.edu>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Owners in Baltimore Area?
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Tom,
> I'm not able to attend the Sailboat Show this year.
> I keep my boat on Kent Island. As of yesterday, October 13th, the
> 'odometer' on my Garmin indicated that I have sailed over 1300 nautical
> miles in the last 4 years on the Chester River and the Bay.
> The folks at the show likely have decades more experience than I have with
> this amazing vessel. But I may be able to offer some insight about sailing
> the Rhodes in our area.
> Regards,
> Bob Garrant
> s/v Sail la Vie 2000/2017
> bgarrant at gmail.com
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 9:51?AM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for Rhodes 22 owners in the Baltimore area. As a new Rhodes 22
>> owner, I have lots of questions about various aspects of the Rhodes. If you
>> would be willing to share some of your knowledge, let me know. We could
>> meetup for coffee or a drink.
>>
>> FYI, I have my boat at the Maryland Marina in Bowleys Quarters. I know
>> there is at least one R22 owner who puts in there because they were the
>> inspiration for my choosing a Rhodes in the first place. I just have not
>> been able to locate them after that initial meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Hyatt
>> S/V Eliza Jane
>> 1978
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 09:33:28 -0400
> From: Jay Friedland <jayf401 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Owners in Baltimore Area?
> Message-ID: <583DCA54-D523-4989-9FD0-B7218FB705DB at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Folks,
> I saw Stan last year, but unable to make it this year. Just a simple request- if there are any highlights or things of interest, or how Stan is doing, that you can convey to those who couldn?t make it, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jay Friedland
> S/V Wanderlust, ?97
>
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:18?PM, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote:
>>
>> Come join us at the 2023 Annapolis Sailboat Show at City Dock & Harbor, 1 Dock Street, Annapolis, MD 21401 (https://secure.interactiveticketing.com/1.39/a0c9f1/#/select)
>>
>> We will be at the Rhodes 22 exhibit. Talk to Rhodies and Stan!
>>
>> The show hours are:
>>
>> October 12-15, 2023
>>
>> Thursday: 10:00am - 6:30pm
>> Friday: 10:00am - 6:30pm
>> Saturday: 10:00am - 6:30pm
>> Sunday: 10:00am - 5:00pm
>>
>> I plan to be there on Saturday.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list
>> Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2023 9:51 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] R22 Owners in Baltimore Area?
>>
>> I'm looking for Rhodes 22 owners in the Baltimore area. As a new Rhodes 22 owner, I have lots of questions about various aspects of the Rhodes. If you would be willing to share some of your knowledge, let me know. We could meetup for coffee or a drink.
>>
>> FYI, I have my boat at the Maryland Marina in Bowleys Quarters. I know there is at least one R22 owner who puts in there because they were the inspiration for my choosing a Rhodes in the first place. I just have not been able to locate them after that initial meeting.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom Hyatt
>> S/V Eliza Jane
>> 1978
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:55:29 -0500
> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CANbEFCun5FichdBr8EiHsC18S1284ac5qYhae_qO7-OnfNBQQw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
> charge.
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 15:29:03 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CY8PR10MB668323B4197B81E172A995C880D5A at CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Assuming you have a trailer with bunks; then, the water needs to be deep enough to almost submerge the front of the bunks. I like to leave about 12? of bunks showing above the water. Then, you just line up the bow in between the bunks and motor dead slow onto the trailer. The underwater guides will center the keel as the boat comes up onto the trailer. The bunks will stop the boat a few inches shy of the bow stop. I leave the engine running in forward with the fuel line disconnected. While the outboard is using up the fuel in the carburetor I center the tiller, lock it, and raise the rudder blade. Then, I walk to the bow, climb off onto the trailer, and attach the bow line. I winch the boat up until the bow is touching the bow stop or as close as I can get it. Then, I lock the winch and attach the safety line. After that, I walk to the tow vehicle. About now, the outboard engine stalls from lack of fuel. I get into the tow vehicle and drive up the ramp. At the to
> p of the ramp, I brake sharply. This causes the boat to slide forward on the bunks up hard against the bow stop. You want to do this right away while the boat and bunks are wet and slippery. I get out and winch in any slack in the bow line and retighten the safety line. If the boat has not slid forward enough, I drive forward again and slam on the brakes and keep doing that until the boat is far enough forward. Usually, the first hard stop is sufficient. Then, I drive over to the rigging area and start preparing the boat to go down the road. The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes from when I first approach the trailer.
>
> For most ramps, this technique requires the use of the tongue extension.
>
> If the ramp has a very gradual slope; then, submerge the bunks until just the front tip of the bunks are showing above the water. Be prepared to gun the outboard to shove the boat up the last foot onto the bunks. What will happen is the midsection of the hull and the keel will contact the trailer a little sooner than desired, stopping the boat a little too far aft on the trailer. Full throttle and the bow winch will usually get the boat far enough forward on the trailer. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to drive up the ramp until the bow is up against the bow stop. The boat is so heavy; that, even a few inches of misplacement will seriously unbalance the trailer.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 8:55?AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
>> charge.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake, MN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:57:46 -0400
> From: Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CACdaeT5BEikuSLXN4LV7FZF6Yntmr6GE3jw=uPqodO5xXJnKPg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> You need enough depth to just cover the bunks.
>
> Graham Stewart
> Agile 76
>
>
>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 8:55?AM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
>> charge.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:40:50 -0500
> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thank you Grahm and Roger! Sound like I need at least 3? of water to be
> successful. Our lake has dropped quite a bit the ramp closest to my house
> may only be about that deep. Hearing all of this really helps!
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:07 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Assuming you have a trailer with bunks; then, the water needs to be deep
>> enough to almost submerge the front of the bunks. I like to leave about
>> 12? of bunks showing above the water. Then, you just line up the bow in
>> between the bunks and motor dead slow onto the trailer. The underwater
>> guides will center the keel as the boat comes up onto the trailer. The
>> bunks will stop the boat a few inches shy of the bow stop. I leave the
>> engine running in forward with the fuel line disconnected. While the
>> outboard is using up the fuel in the carburetor I center the tiller, lock
>> it, and raise the rudder blade. Then, I walk to the bow, climb off onto
>> the trailer, and attach the bow line. I winch the boat up until the bow is
>> touching the bow stop or as close as I can get it. Then, I lock the winch
>> and attach the safety line. After that, I walk to the tow vehicle. About
>> now, the outboard engine stalls from lack of fuel. I get into the tow
>> vehicle and drive up the ramp. At the top of the ramp, I brake sharply.
>> This causes the boat to slide forward on the bunks up hard against the bow
>> stop. You want to do this right away while the boat and bunks are wet and
>> slippery. I get out and winch in any slack in the bow line and retighten
>> the safety line. If the boat has not slid forward enough, I drive forward
>> again and slam on the brakes and keep doing that until the boat is far
>> enough forward. Usually, the first hard stop is sufficient. Then, I drive
>> over to the rigging area and start preparing the boat to go down the road.
>> The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes from when I first approach the
>> trailer.
>>
>> For most ramps, this technique requires the use of the tongue extension.
>>
>> If the ramp has a very gradual slope; then, submerge the bunks until just
>> the front tip of the bunks are showing above the water. Be prepared to gun
>> the outboard to shove the boat up the last foot onto the bunks. What will
>> happen is the midsection of the hull and the keel will contact the trailer
>> a little sooner than desired, stopping the boat a little too far aft on the
>> trailer. Full throttle and the bow winch will usually get the boat far
>> enough forward on the trailer. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to
>> drive up the ramp until the bow is up against the bow stop. The boat is so
>> heavy; that, even a few inches of misplacement will seriously unbalance the
>> trailer.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 8:55?AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
>>> charge.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 14:14:56 -0400
> From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CAPi3tBContcM-po-VbwDVsBSfqvab4-NztCrmYAoVx_dVAinYQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Roger
> I bought my Rhodes in 2017 and it stayed in the water for two seasons
> before I got a trailer and hauled it out for the winter. Since then I?ve
> hauled it out at the end of every season.
> I wish I had asked the haul out question back then.
> I?ve always been guessing about how to get it seated against the bow stop.
> The explanation was exactly what I needed
> Thanks very much
>
> Bob
> s/v Sail la Vie
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:07?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> Assuming you have a trailer with bunks; then, the water needs to be deep
>> enough to almost submerge the front of the bunks. I like to leave about
>> 12? of bunks showing above the water. Then, you just line up the bow in
>> between the bunks and motor dead slow onto the trailer. The underwater
>> guides will center the keel as the boat comes up onto the trailer. The
>> bunks will stop the boat a few inches shy of the bow stop. I leave the
>> engine running in forward with the fuel line disconnected. While the
>> outboard is using up the fuel in the carburetor I center the tiller, lock
>> it, and raise the rudder blade. Then, I walk to the bow, climb off onto
>> the trailer, and attach the bow line. I winch the boat up until the bow is
>> touching the bow stop or as close as I can get it. Then, I lock the winch
>> and attach the safety line. After that, I walk to the tow vehicle. About
>> now, the outboard engine stalls from lack of fuel. I get into the tow
>> vehicle and drive up the ramp. At the top of the ramp, I brake sharply.
>> This causes the boat to slide forward on the bunks up hard against the bow
>> stop. You want to do this right away while the boat and bunks are wet and
>> slippery. I get out and winch in any slack in the bow line and retighten
>> the safety line. If the boat has not slid forward enough, I drive forward
>> again and slam on the brakes and keep doing that until the boat is far
>> enough forward. Usually, the first hard stop is sufficient. Then, I drive
>> over to the rigging area and start preparing the boat to go down the road.
>> The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes from when I first approach the
>> trailer.
>>
>> For most ramps, this technique requires the use of the tongue extension.
>>
>> If the ramp has a very gradual slope; then, submerge the bunks until just
>> the front tip of the bunks are showing above the water. Be prepared to gun
>> the outboard to shove the boat up the last foot onto the bunks. What will
>> happen is the midsection of the hull and the keel will contact the trailer
>> a little sooner than desired, stopping the boat a little too far aft on the
>> trailer. Full throttle and the bow winch will usually get the boat far
>> enough forward on the trailer. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to
>> drive up the ramp until the bow is up against the bow stop. The boat is so
>> heavy; that, even a few inches of misplacement will seriously unbalance the
>> trailer.
>>
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 8:55?AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
>>> charge.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:28:10 -0400
> From: Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <64998442-57D9-4511-98CC-ADB9138E35E3 at stottarchitecture.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Great description by Roger. I don?t like the sliding and braking step and try to get it right from the beginning.
> The ramp angle plays a part in where the stop should be. My ramp is very steep. I move the stop as far forward as possible. When the boat is lifted out of the water the bow will rise away from the stop. You may have to adjust (ease) the winch tension once the boat is out.
> Ric
> Dadventure
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 2:15 PM, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Roger
>> I bought my Rhodes in 2017 and it stayed in the water for two seasons
>> before I got a trailer and hauled it out for the winter. Since then I?ve
>> hauled it out at the end of every season.
>> I wish I had asked the haul out question back then.
>> I?ve always been guessing about how to get it seated against the bow stop.
>> The explanation was exactly what I needed
>> Thanks very much
>>
>> Bob
>> s/v Sail la Vie
>>
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:07?PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Matt,
>>>
>>> Assuming you have a trailer with bunks; then, the water needs to be deep
>>> enough to almost submerge the front of the bunks. I like to leave about
>>> 12? of bunks showing above the water. Then, you just line up the bow in
>>> between the bunks and motor dead slow onto the trailer. The underwater
>>> guides will center the keel as the boat comes up onto the trailer. The
>>> bunks will stop the boat a few inches shy of the bow stop. I leave the
>>> engine running in forward with the fuel line disconnected. While the
>>> outboard is using up the fuel in the carburetor I center the tiller, lock
>>> it, and raise the rudder blade. Then, I walk to the bow, climb off onto
>>> the trailer, and attach the bow line. I winch the boat up until the bow is
>>> touching the bow stop or as close as I can get it. Then, I lock the winch
>>> and attach the safety line. After that, I walk to the tow vehicle. About
>>> now, the outboard engine stalls from lack of fuel. I get into the tow
>>> vehicle and drive up the ramp. At the top of the ramp, I brake sharply.
>>> This causes the boat to slide forward on the bunks up hard against the bow
>>> stop. You want to do this right away while the boat and bunks are wet and
>>> slippery. I get out and winch in any slack in the bow line and retighten
>>> the safety line. If the boat has not slid forward enough, I drive forward
>>> again and slam on the brakes and keep doing that until the boat is far
>>> enough forward. Usually, the first hard stop is sufficient. Then, I drive
>>> over to the rigging area and start preparing the boat to go down the road.
>>> The whole thing takes less than 5 minutes from when I first approach the
>>> trailer.
>>>
>>> For most ramps, this technique requires the use of the tongue extension.
>>>
>>> If the ramp has a very gradual slope; then, submerge the bunks until just
>>> the front tip of the bunks are showing above the water. Be prepared to gun
>>> the outboard to shove the boat up the last foot onto the bunks. What will
>>> happen is the midsection of the hull and the keel will contact the trailer
>>> a little sooner than desired, stopping the boat a little too far aft on the
>>> trailer. Full throttle and the bow winch will usually get the boat far
>>> enough forward on the trailer. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to
>>> drive up the ramp until the bow is up against the bow stop. The boat is so
>>> heavy; that, even a few inches of misplacement will seriously unbalance the
>>> trailer.
>>>
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 8:55?AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>>>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>>>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>>>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a
>>>> charge.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>> Hornblower II
>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 15:34:28 -0500
> From: "DAVID BERG" <davidmberg at mac.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID: <02bb01da0202$8537aea0$8fa70be0$@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Matt,
>
> If your trailer is like mine (Triad) in my experience I think you want to get the entire trailer bunks just below the water surface. Of course depending on the slope of the ramp you may have to back in deep or use the extension. The water was super low at my landing this fall, but I was just able to manage without using the extension.
>
> I'm willing to come assist you with landing and lowering the mast if I'm available when you're ready.
>
> Dave
> (612) 716-7510
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:55 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a charge.
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 21:05:08 +0000
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> To: DAVID BERG <davidmberg at mac.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CY8PR10MB66834EBCCB31CE86491A33D580D5A at CY8PR10MB6683.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> David,
>
> Of course, with the tongue extension, you can often back in far enough to completely submerge the bunks. However, unless you have a bunch of helpers to hang onto guy lines to keep the boat centered on the trailer, this is not the most efficient option. If the boat does not engage with the trailer?s bunks to a certain extent; then, it is vulnerable to wind and wave action causing it to get misaligned with the trailer. By leaving about 12? of the bunks exposed above the water, you give the helmsman an obvious target to aim at. Just put the bow in between the bunks and the trailer does the rest. The boat engages with the bunks just enough to keep wind and waves from spoiling the alignment on the trailer long enough to get it winched up against the bow stop. I often put S/V Dynamic Equilibrium on the trailer single handed. For a 22 ft LOA boat, it?s not difficult; but, the secret is mostly in the trailer design.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 4:34?PM, DAVID BERG via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Matt,
>>
>> If your trailer is like mine (Triad) in my experience I think you want to get the entire trailer bunks just below the water surface. Of course depending on the slope of the ramp you may have to back in deep or use the extension. The water was super low at my landing this fall, but I was just able to manage without using the extension.
>>
>> I'm willing to come assist you with landing and lowering the mast if I'm available when you're ready.
>>
>> Dave
>> (612) 716-7510
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:55 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a charge.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:33:52 -0500
> From: "DAVID BERG" <davidmberg at mac.com>
> To: "'ROGER PIHLAJA'" <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>, "'The Rhodes 22 Email
> List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID: <044b01da020a$caf281b0$60d78510$@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Roger,
>
> Do you have the Triad? Mine has self-aligned really well... and we don't have gas engines (not allowed on in-city Minneapolis lakes) to power on to the trailer, so I'm usually having to pretty much float on gently using the electric motor. (Matt can have an outboard on White Bear Lake) I have had someone out on the dock with a really long stern line for possible alignment, but haven't really seemed to need that. The keel nestles into the Triad trailer and gets in lined up on its own. On my small lake we don't typically have waves of any real concern. Wind is another matter.
>
> This year I cranked it up once then pulled the vehicle forward a bit and then backed back in a little and out and then cranked again until I had worked the boat forward to the desired spot on the trailer. In the past I have tried the stop fast method of moving the boat forward, but didn't have much success. Perhaps I was afraid of overdoing it and breaking something.
>
> David Berg
> Blue Loon
> Minneapolis MN
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 4:05 PM
> To: DAVID BERG <davidmberg at mac.com>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>
> David,
>
> Of course, with the tongue extension, you can often back in far enough to completely submerge the bunks. However, unless you have a bunch of helpers to hang onto guy lines to keep the boat centered on the trailer, this is not the most efficient option. If the boat does not engage with the trailer?s bunks to a certain extent; then, it is vulnerable to wind and wave action causing it to get misaligned with the trailer. By leaving about 12? of the bunks exposed above the water, you give the helmsman an obvious target to aim at. Just put the bow in between the bunks and the trailer does the rest. The boat engages with the bunks just enough to keep wind and waves from spoiling the alignment on the trailer long enough to get it winched up against the bow stop. I often put S/V Dynamic Equilibrium on the trailer single handed. For a 22 ft LOA boat, it?s not difficult; but, the secret is mostly in the trailer design.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 18, 2023, at 4:34?PM, DAVID BERG via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Matt,
>>
>> If your trailer is like mine (Triad) in my experience I think you want to get the entire trailer bunks just below the water surface. Of course depending on the slope of the ramp you may have to back in deep or use the extension. The water was super low at my landing this fall, but I was just able to manage without using the extension.
>>
>> I'm willing to come assist you with landing and lowering the mast if I'm available when you're ready.
>>
>> Dave
>> (612) 716-7510
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:55 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a charge.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:34:41 -0400
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID: <004d01da020a$e80919d0$b81b4d70$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I am not sure if your trailer (Trailmaster) has the Triad Trailers tongue extension. If it does, you can push the trailer out far enough to recover in almost any low water situation.
>
> When I was in a situation where we had to recover the Rhodes 22 as a tropical storm was coming, I could not wait for a high tide to haul out. Tidal heights on the LI Sound differ by nearly 8 foot between low and high so one must be keenly aware of the tide timing.
>
> This time, we needed to haul out close to low tide. I was able to place the trailer under the boat by releasing it from the tow vehicle and floating the boat on the trailer. The hitch coupling was about 15 feet from the truck and the front trailer wheel was lowered to keep the trailer from striking the ramp. Fortunately, we have very long ramps so the trailer wheels were not in the sand. If the trailer wheels were beyond the end of the ramp, it would be very difficult to winch the trailer and boat up onto the ramp.
>
> After securing the boat using the bow safety chain, I used the web strap that normally pulls the boat on to the trailer to winch the trailer to the tow vehicle using the safety chain receiver at the hitch. When close to the vehicle, I blocked the trailer wheels and hitched the trailer to the truck by repositioning the truck. Once fully hitched, we hauled her out to safety.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Matt Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:55 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a charge.
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt Wilson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:06:04 -0500
> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
> Message-ID:
> <CANbEFCshkcGr7GUvGy_d_rE7FC-aSBo4stp_fFrTu0rWS5cpMA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks everyone! And thanks for your offer to help Dave!! I plan to do it
> Monday early afternoon but my son will be around to help. I would love to
> meet up sometime...sorry we missed another season to do so.
>
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 4:34?PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matt,
>>
>> I am not sure if your trailer (Trailmaster) has the Triad Trailers tongue
>> extension. If it does, you can push the trailer out far enough to recover
>> in almost any low water situation.
>>
>> When I was in a situation where we had to recover the Rhodes 22 as a
>> tropical storm was coming, I could not wait for a high tide to haul out.
>> Tidal heights on the LI Sound differ by nearly 8 foot between low and high
>> so one must be keenly aware of the tide timing.
>>
>> This time, we needed to haul out close to low tide. I was able to place
>> the trailer under the boat by releasing it from the tow vehicle and
>> floating the boat on the trailer. The hitch coupling was about 15 feet from
>> the truck and the front trailer wheel was lowered to keep the trailer from
>> striking the ramp. Fortunately, we have very long ramps so the trailer
>> wheels were not in the sand. If the trailer wheels were beyond the end of
>> the ramp, it would be very difficult to winch the trailer and boat up onto
>> the ramp.
>>
>> After securing the boat using the bow safety chain, I used the web strap
>> that normally pulls the boat on to the trailer to winch the trailer to the
>> tow vehicle using the safety chain receiver at the hitch. When close to the
>> vehicle, I blocked the trailer wheels and hitched the trailer to the truck
>> by repositioning the truck. Once fully hitched, we hauled her out to safety.
>>
>> Mike
>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> Matt Wilson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2023 7:55 AM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] 2007 Trailmaster trailer question
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am about to pull my Rhodes for the season and am wondering if anyone
>> knows approximately how much water I need to have at the ramp. Any
>> perspectives would be super helpful. There are multiple ramp options but
>> the deepest would have to be done by the local boatworks and incur a charge.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Matt Wilson
>> Hornblower II
>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>
>>
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