[Rhodes22-list] Anchoring

[ROGER PIHLAJA]

Rick,

Boy, you sure do like to pigeon hole people you’ve never even met!  It’s not a very attractive characteristic.  I prefer to think of people as individuals and keep an open mind.

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> We probably will meet since you can be a late arriving squeezer.  Your kind
> seem to follow me around.
> 
> The MINIMUM anchor rode to water depth is 7:1.  That's when the bottom and
> all night weather forecast are good.  And it doesn't matter whether the
> rode comes off a toe rail chock or the bow eye, there is no way to cheat
> physics in order to squeeze in.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rick Lange
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 5:24 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rick,
>> 
>> Boy, for somebody you've never met, you make a lot of assumptions about me
>> and my boat.  First of all, my boat hook is always stored in a pair of
>> Beckson Clipper Clips on the back wall of the cockpit just below the
>> lazarette hatch.  I can easily find it in the dark.  Second, I always sleep
>> with my camping headlight within easy reach.  Third, I always set a GPS
>> anchor watch.  So, I would be awakened re a dragging anchor long before any
>> of the boats around me noticed.  Actually, after many years of cruising,
>> you get sensitive to the boat's motions and what a dragging anchor feels
>> like.  The chances are, I'd be up on deck checking things out anyway.  I
>> always take a couple of visual bearings on landmarks on shore to quickly
>> detect if my boat has moved.  Fourth, the anchor rode is the only line
>> extending out from the bow.  Even without my headlight, I could easily find
>> it in the dark.  Just sweep the boat hook in front of the bow and it is
>> bound to run into the anchor rode.
>> 
>> Look, this thread is really getting tiresome.  Anchor your boat however
>> you please.  I'm just glad I don't have to deal with you in person.
>> 
>> Roger Pihlaja
>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>> Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 12:09 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Anchoring
>> 
>> Yelling comes from boats downwind you are dragging toward just because you
>> wanted to squeeze in by putting out too little rode.  And you're taking
>> forever to find your boat hook in the dark and rain, and to fish for the
>> rode you can't see underwater.
>> 
>> What's this about bringing the anchor aboard?  I'd rather walk into a
>> Japanese home with my shoes on!  The anchor is to be kept outboard hanging
>> from its bow rail bracket.  When just relocating in an anchorage, I also
>> leave the mucky chain dangling outboard from the hanging anchor.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 5:23 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Rick,
>>> 
>>> What yelling?  You start the engine.  While it’s warming up, you walk to
>>> the bow, and snag the anchor rode downstream of the carabiner with a boat
>>> hook. You motor slowly forward while pulling in the anchor rode hand over
>>> hand over the railing.  Note that you haven’t touched the bow cleat or
>> the
>>> carabiner.  When the anchor is aboard, you go and redeploy.  No muss, no
>>> fuss.  I am just claiming that my technique makes it less likely the
>> anchor
>>> is going to drag.  Often, your suggested options of going someplace else
>> or
>>> going to shore are not available.  The Rhodes 22 has the advantage of
>>> shallow draft and can often be anchored in a corner of the harbor where
>> the
>>> big boats can’t go.  We all have a vision of being alone in a pristine
>>> anchorage.  But, that’s often not the reality.  Have you actually done
>> much
>>> anchoring out?  What do you propose to do if you’re not willing to anchor
>>> in close quarters?  Remember, there are no slips available and it’s too
>>> late to go somewhere else.
>>> 
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>