[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Towing

[Brian Ferguson]

Should have mentioned in my last message: I have a '76 Continental on a
painted steel trailer. When I bought the trailer in Ohio they were pretty
strict on brake laws so I learned a lot about GCWR to be cautious. If you
have a weigh station nearby that’s probably your best bet. We all probably
have slightly different numbers given the vintages, changes, etc. My Triad
trailer alone weighs 680lbs (according to the weight slip from Dave
Congdon). If you take your stated 2WD tow capacity (3500) and remove the
empty trailer weight (680) you're at 2820 left over for the boat to keep it
at or below the towing capacity. Keep in mind you have to factor in what
else is going into the Pilot since that will change your GCWR figure. Do
your math, be safe, and enjoy the sailing.

From American Honda Motors website, "Towing requires installation of power
steering fluid- and automatic transmission fluid-cooler, both available
exclusively from your Honda dealer. Premium unleaded fuel is recommended
when towing above 3500 lbs. Capacity of 4500 lbs. is for boat trailers and
3500 lbs. for all other trailers. Refer to the owner's manual for
additional towing information."

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 7:29 PM Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The Honda Pilot weights 4341 all by itself.
>
> Luis A. Guzmán II
> http://www.TropicalMinds.com
> 941 580-1577
>
> > On 11 Sep 2023, at 17:22, Joe Dempsey <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't  unless you're not going to be going over 15-25 mph on back
> roads, NOT on a highway. The Rhodes w/equipment will weigh in around
> 2600-2800 lbs. If memory serves me, an empty Rhodes weighs 2500 lbs. You
> don't want to be in a lightweight vehicle equal to or less weight than your
> tow. Even if you're being careful, in an emergency at 40 mph stepping hard
> on the brakes will almost surely lead to a jack knife with the loaded
> trailer pushing you out of control. (Even with trailer brakes).
> >
> > I would say, unless you live within a mile or two from the ramp or lift,
> I couldn't recommend it.
> >
> > Joe Dempsey
> > Trojan 42
> > M/V Voyager
> > Former Rhodes 22
> > S/V Respite
> > Deltaville, VA
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 6:54:19 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Towing
> >
> > Do a test drive to see how it handles. Pick highways where you an keep
> the
> > speed down. Make sure you have adequate tongue weight That should give
> you
> > a good idea of how it will handle. Buying a new car to go 60 miles on
> flat
> > terrain with a lightly loaded boat seems discouraging to me.
> > Graham
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:20 PM Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I removed the engine, centerboard, and rudder, and will remove any
> >> equipment from the inside.
> >>
> >> I’m going to be towing it around 60 miles in Florida’s flat terrain
> >>
> >> Luis A. Guzmán II
> >> http://www.TropicalMinds.com
> >> 941 580-1577
> >>
> >>> On 11 Sep 2023, at 16:12, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think you should be alright towing with the Honda for easy shorter
> >> trips.
> >>> If you plan to tow a heavily loaded boat long distances through hilly
> >>> terrain it might be inadequate. I’m no expert. Just someone who towed
> >> short
> >>> distances with a Pilot.
> >>> Graham
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:03 PM Luis Guzman <luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I’m sorry, here is the towing capacity according to Honda:
> >>>>
> >>>> Towing Capacity (lbs., 2WD / 4WD) 3500 / 4500t
> >>>>
> >>>> Mine is a 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L with 2 wheel drive.
> >>>>
> >>>> Luis A. Guzmán II
> >>>> http://www.TropicalMinds.com
> >>>> 941 580-1577
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 11 Sep 2023, at 15:06, Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It varies by the configuration of the Honda Pilot. Review the
> following
> >>>>> link:
> >>>>> https://towstats.com/honda-pilot-towing-capacity/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mike
> >>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> >>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
> >>>>> I’d rather be sailing :~)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf
> Of
> >>>> Lowe,
> >>>>> Rob
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 4:32 PM
> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Towing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think the Pilot might be able to handle 5,000 pounds.  It about the
> >>>> same
> >>>>> build as my Ridgeline, which will handle 5,000 pounds.  Maybe the tow
> >>>> rig is
> >>>>> not as robust as the one on my truck.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rob
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
> of
> >>>> Graham
> >>>>> Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 3:46 PM
> >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Towing
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you sure that the towing capacity is only 2300 lbs? My Pilot had
> >>>> double
> >>>>> that capacity and was able to handle the boat comfortably.
> >>>>> Graham Stewart
> >>>>> Agile
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 3:27 PM Luis Guzman <
> luis.guzman.ve at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m wondering if I can tow my 1983 Rhodes 22 using a Honda Pilot Ex
> >>>>>> which has a towing capacity of 2300 lbs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The trailer is a one axle triad.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for your help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Luis A. Guzmán II
> >>>>>>
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> >> http://www.tropicalminds.com
> >>>>>> />
> >>>>>> 941 580-1577
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
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