[Rhodes22-list] How robust are the pintles?

[Robert Cohen]

Peter -
I agree with Roger and Joe.  You might want to consider Joe’s offer. Or contact Charles Gabriel and see if a mast-raising system or at least the crutch is available at GB.
Bob Cohen

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> On Sep 29, 2023, at 9:10 PM, jpd9668 <jpd9668 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Absolutely don't put that weight on the rudder pointless. When I first read the post I didn't conceive that it was the actual rudder pointless being referred to. The GBI system is ingenious taking advantage of the vertical compression strength
> of the transom. The guide lines provide the lateral security. You could probably visit Stan's yard and get one quite reasonably.
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> By the way, I have a set of "forks" for the GBI mast cradle if anyone is interested. $26.00 plus shipping.
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> Joe Dempsey Trojan 42 MYM/V VoyagerFormer Rhodes 22S/V RespiteDeltaville, VA
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> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 3:42:53 PM
> To: Tom Hyatt <thyatt at mica.edu>; The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How robust are the pintles?
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> Hi Peter,
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> Attached are 2 pictures of the Factory GBI mast crutch:
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> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D9F2EC.43D9A140]
> Close-Up Of GBI Stern Mast Crutch
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> Note how the majority of the load is borne by the transom and not the rudder pintles.  I would not recommend using the rudder pintles in the way you are proposing.
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> I like the nice wide funneling scoop on the top of the GBI mast crutch.  It must be really nice when unstepping the mast.  I also like the starting height of the mast crutch when you begin the lift to step the mast.
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> [cid:image006.jpg at 01D9F2EC.43D9A140]
> Rhodes 22 almost rigged for trailering with GBI stern mast crutch
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> About the only thing I don’t like about the GBI stern mast crutch is how much vertical clearance is required when going down the road.  Otherwise, it’s a great design!
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> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
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> From: Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 9:11 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How robust are the pintles?
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> I made a crutch from 2x4s that I actually sit on the ground behind the
> stern and tie to the stern rail. It works well but does not sit as high as
> one sitting inside the cockpit. However, it is plenty sturdy and especially
> resists lateral movement. Of course, it's useless if you are lowering or
> raising your mast while your boat is in the water. :-)
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> Tom Hyatt
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> On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 10:33 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
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>> The lintels can probably handle the compressive loads but without added
>> connections to the stern rail would most likely fail to handle the lateral
>> loads of the mast and sliding it forward and or aft. I would mount it on
>> the stern and lash it to the stern rail, the way GB designed it. It’s
>> simple , direct and easy.
>> Ric
>> Dadventure
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>>> On Sep 29, 2023, at 10:03 AM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> Hi All,   Sad to say that summer is over and winter haul-out is fast
>> approaching :-(.  As I contemplate lowering my mast for the first time, and
>> wishing to avoid a repeat of the experience in raising the mast (another
>> story) I am planning on building a mast crutch to simplify the process (my
>> boat did not come with the GB mast raising system or a crutch).  My
>> question for all you experienced Rhodies is:  can I safely hang a mast
>> crutch and the weight of mast/boom/furler assembly on the pintles?  Are
>> they robust enough for this load?  I assume they are ( but you know what
>> happens when you assume).  What says the collective wisdom?  Note:  I only
>> plan to use this for raising/lowering, not for trailering/storage.
>>> Thanks all,     Peter
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