[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 weight with trailer

[Chris Geankoplis]

So the trailer isn’t a triad then. Yup, get that fixed!
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> On Dec 17, 2024, at 7:09 AM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Haha no the -10lb is what its at, but dont worry we're moving the axle to
> get the load back to about 300lb, at the moment every other bump lifts the
> truck up by the hitch (very unsafe)
> 
> I dont know exactly who made my trailer but its of exceptionally poor
> quality.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 8:21 AM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Placement on the trailer is critical.
>> The ramp angle matters too with respect to where the bow fits into the bow
>> ‘stop’ when you load the boat. My ramp is fairly steep. When I load the
>> boat I have to keep the bow almost as far forward as it goes.  Once the
>> boat is out of the water, I have to release the cable on the winch because
>> it bends the front of the trailer and I can’t slide the rogue extension all
>> the way back.
>> Experimenting with the boat position might be easier than cutting and
>> welding.
>> Ric
>> Dadventure
>> HBNY
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>> 
>>> On Dec 13, 2024, at 7:40 AM, Scott Andrews via Rhodes22-list <
>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I agree with Chris, I’ve heard 12% tongue weight. I think that is a
>> minimum and prefer a bit more. 300-400lbs and you won’t get any high speed
>> weaving.
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>>> 
>>>> On Dec 12, 2024, at 9:10 PM, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hey David, I assume the “10 pound tongue weight “ is a typo. I have
>> towed my single axle triad over 12,000 miles Atlantic to pacific and Canada
>> to Mexico several times each. I kept my tongue weight at around 400 lbs. I
>> never had a problem the whole time. Just say’n.
>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>> Xenos
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>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2024, at 7:58 PM, Kenwood _ <kenwood364 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> My boat is awful old and I dont know the exact date but no rhodes
>> with a
>>>>> single axle is over that 3999lb mark, the city i registered in
>> registered
>>>>> my tailer as "at max capacity" and suggested i get a second axle, when
>>>>> pulling with the truck its about 3000ish lb, but with -10lb of tongue
>> so
>>>>> its super uncomfortable to ride.. ive heard that this is similar with
>> other
>>>>> rhodes, very poorly placed trailer bungs with relationship to the axle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> tldr, it might not be just the legal/rated trailer axle capacity but
>> the
>>>>> tongue weight. Im planning next season to cut off and re-weld on a
>> second
>>>>> axle and move the original one to better distribute the weight so
>>>>> we're not bouncing
>>>>> down the highway! <https://youtu.be/Te7hYLD791I>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2024 at 7:38 AM DAVID BERG via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Blue Loon
>>>>>> 1996/2003 R22 on single axle Triad trailer 3880lbs
>>>>>> No gas motor/or fuel
>>>>>> 170 genoa with Flexible Furler
>>>>>> GBI in-mast furling
>>>>>> Electric Motor (Minnkota 80)
>>>>>> 2 batteries
>>>>>> Porcelain head
>>>>>> All cushions
>>>>>> No water
>>>>>> No Bimini on board
>>>>>> Life jackets and fenders
>>>>>> Misc tools and hardware
>>>>>> I pull it with a 2022 Telluride which seems adequate although perhaps
>> not
>>>>>> ideal. I think the Telluride is rated for 5500 lbs with the towing
>> package.
>>>>>> David Berg
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>>> boris at borisland.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 2:53 PM
>>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 weight with trailer
>>>>>> Asking the hive mind for advice:
>>>>>> I’m eyeing a refurbished Rhodes 22 1973 with a single-axle Triad
>> trailer.
>>>>>> I’ve seen a *wild* range of displacement values for Rh22, and a
>> similarly
>>>>>> wild range for trailer weights.  What I know from the manufacturer is
>> that
>>>>>> the 1970s boats are lighter - likely because they don’t have in-mast
>>>>>> furling and use balsa core rather than marine foam - but the one in
>>>>>> question has been refurbished with a marine head installation, so
>> it’s not
>>>>>> the original-spec.  Further, Triad trailers can be two-axle and
>> one-axle,
>>>>>> and this one is one-axle.
>>>>>> Are there any owners here with a 1970s vintage boat and a single axle
>>>>>> triad trailer who can weigh in (pun intended) with their boat and
>> trailer
>>>>>> total weight?  My Sienna isn’t supposed to pull anything above 3500,
>> so
>>>>>> this is an important question for me.
>>>>>> Boris
>>> 
>>