From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 1 22:52:49 2024 From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 22:52:49 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Martha's Vineyard on Friday Message-ID: Hi All, I just got back from visiting my brother who is a live-aboard mooring at Martha's Vineyard for a week or so. I'd just gotten off the ferry and hopped into his dinghy and when I looked around the first thing I saw was a Rhodes 22 motoring out towards the breakwater (my first Rhodes sighting in the wild). I couldn't make out the name on the side (Murphy?). We tried to catch up, but we're loaded with 4 people and luggage in an 8 ft inflatable and we got kinda wet if we went too fast. So if you were motoring out of Vineyard Haven harbor last Friday, I'll say "hi" now. Sorry I missed you. Peter [ Sent From rhodes22.net ] From kenwood364 at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 11:59:33 2024 From: kenwood364 at gmail.com (Kenwood _) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 11:59:33 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sheet Dimensions and Specs In-Reply-To: References: <92DADBF0-E538-488B-AB1A-87F52A714A75@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the delay there, looks like the email list blocks a lot of my images. I'll try linking them if i want to post more than one. Rodger, yes. We machined new sockets and pins for the traveler to install into. Piece of cake Peter, thanks for that height dimension! Rodger again thank you! I'll look into the harken set, for the moment i was able to find a set that will work for now. Rodger again, its a pretty big machine! We do a lot of machining and fabricating. Heres a few videos of us working on new blocks for the mast. If anyone could measure precisely their spreader length, that would be super appreciated! Its hard to guess and pick without lifting and rasing the mast, and i still have no idea how that is done. Thank you all so much for all your advice! More progress soon to come, the first wet-test is ticking down :) On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 7:44?AM ROGER PIHLAJA wrote: > So, how big is this CNC machine? Maximum dimensions of parts that can be > produced? hp? What materials can you work with? Do you also have the > tool crib full of cutters, or would we have to supply you with both the > material and the cutting tools? When purchasing the cutting tools, what > taper does your chuck require? What programming language? Do you prefer > your mechanical drawings with dimensions all referenced to a common datum? > > Welcome aboard! I'm perfectly willing to work with you. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > 1978 Sanford, MI > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > Graham Stewart > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 10:22 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheet Dimensions and Specs > > I, for one, would be very interested to see examples of how you use the CNC > to make boat parts. > > Graham Stewart > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 7:17 PM Kenwood _ wrote: > > > Oh I'm totally fine making parts for people! Especially if it goes both > > ways~ I really could use some dimensions and specifications so I know > > like.. what parts to make :3 > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 6:04?PM Hank wrote: > > > > > He meant everyone might ask you to make something and there?s a bit of > > > jealousy. It?sa good thing. ? > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 6:00?PM Kenwood _ > wrote: > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 5:52?PM Frank Goldsmith < > > goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think Todd was joshing with you. > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 2024, at 5:34?PM, Kenwood _ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? I don't understand sorry. I'm just trying to be polite and > > > engage > > > > > with > > > > > > other rhodes owners :c this is my first big boat project and I > > don't > > > > > wanna > > > > > > step on toes or do something dangerous > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 8:23?AM Todd Tavares < > > tavares0947 at gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kenwood, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You know you screwed up right? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You shouldn't have let it us know you have a CNC. ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Todd T. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 10:47 AM Kenwood _ > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hello all. Just wanted to say, its so sad to hear about stans > > > > passing. > > > > > >> I've > > > > > >>> obviously never met him, but its clear how much of a core > > > centerpiece > > > > > he > > > > > >>> was. He's mentioned in every piece of literature and > > documentation > > > > all > > > > > >> over > > > > > >>> the internet. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Im in the process of machining several new parts for my boat, > > > mostly > > > > > mast > > > > > >>> fittings, broken parts, etc. But im mostly just copying what > > > pieces i > > > > > >> have. > > > > > >>> My boat didn't come with sheets (for the jib or the main) and > it > > > > didn't > > > > > >>> come with a traveler. I was wondering.. if anyone had > > > > dimensions/specs > > > > > >> for > > > > > >>> these pieces? Or perhaps know of an equivalent locking main > > sheet? > > > > Ive > > > > > >>> already purchased and begun assembling a new traveler. Its > going > > to > > > > be > > > > > a > > > > > >>> roller type with a set of blocks either end. But ive also seen > > the > > > > > >> locking > > > > > >>> pin style. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thanks so much. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> [image: PXL_20240617_174724313.jpg] > > > > > >>> [image: PXL_20240617_174522017.jpg] > > > > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > >>> Name: PXL_20240617_174724313.jpg > > > > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > > > > >>> Size: 3221948 bytes > > > > > >>> Desc: not available > > > > > >>> URL: < > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240620%2F88062c7d%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ced64dd3bcdc448ebb02908dc93900384%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638547493946146910%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ob659ULQ5jg4A1jePJCspqSdLhGlCVL8yaOedt5E2dA%3D&reserved=0 > < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240620/88062c7d/attachment.jpg > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > >>> Name: PXL_20240617_174522017.jpg > > > > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > > > > >>> Size: 2581451 bytes > > > > > >>> Desc: not available > > > > > >>> URL: < > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240620%2F88062c7d%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ced64dd3bcdc448ebb02908dc93900384%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638547493946156266%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xep0yvkP1bFUjjkCtXsIBqP%2B4qo3G%2BoxuvoLFZYpuuw%3D&reserved=0 > < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240620/88062c7d/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pbryanriley at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 14:45:37 2024 From: pbryanriley at gmail.com (PBR) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:45:37 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sheet Dimensions and Specs In-Reply-To: References: <92DADBF0-E538-488B-AB1A-87F52A714A75@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ken, Ric posted some spreader length above. My IMF spreader tubes are 35 1/2 just the aluminum part. Just slightly shorter than his measurements. All in the ball park of 35-1/2 to 35-7/8. Attached photo shows the spreader tip and the Dwyer part attached to Mast. Patrick On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 12:06?PM Kenwood _ wrote: > Sorry for the delay there, looks like the email list blocks a lot of my > images. I'll try linking them if i want to post more than one. > > Rodger, yes. We machined new sockets and pins for the traveler to install > into. Piece of cake > > Peter, thanks for that height dimension! > > Rodger again thank you! I'll look into the harken set, for the moment i was > able to find a set that will work for now. > > > Rodger again, its a pretty big machine! We do a lot of machining and > fabricating. Heres a few videos of us working on new blocks for the mast. > > > If anyone could measure precisely their spreader length, that would be > super appreciated! Its hard to guess and pick without lifting and rasing > the mast, and i still have no idea how that is done. > > Thank you all so much for all your advice! More progress soon to come, the > first wet-test is ticking down :) > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 7:44?AM ROGER PIHLAJA > wrote: > > > So, how big is this CNC machine? Maximum dimensions of parts that can be > > produced? hp? What materials can you work with? Do you also have the > > tool crib full of cutters, or would we have to supply you with both the > > material and the cutting tools? When purchasing the cutting tools, what > > taper does your chuck require? What programming language? Do you prefer > > your mechanical drawings with dimensions all referenced to a common > datum? > > > > Welcome aboard! I'm perfectly willing to work with you. > > > > Roger Pihlaja > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > > 1978 Sanford, MI > > ________________________________ > > From: Rhodes22-list on behalf of > > Graham Stewart > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2024 10:22 AM > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sheet Dimensions and Specs > > > > I, for one, would be very interested to see examples of how you use the > CNC > > to make boat parts. > > > > Graham Stewart > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 7:17 PM Kenwood _ wrote: > > > > > Oh I'm totally fine making parts for people! Especially if it goes both > > > ways~ I really could use some dimensions and specifications so I know > > > like.. what parts to make :3 > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 6:04?PM Hank wrote: > > > > > > > He meant everyone might ask you to make something and there?s a bit > of > > > > jealousy. It?sa good thing. ? > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 6:00?PM Kenwood _ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 5:52?PM Frank Goldsmith < > > > goldsmith.cf at gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think Todd was joshing with you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 22, 2024, at 5:34?PM, Kenwood _ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why? I don't understand sorry. I'm just trying to be polite and > > > > engage > > > > > > with > > > > > > > other rhodes owners :c this is my first big boat project and I > > > don't > > > > > > wanna > > > > > > > step on toes or do something dangerous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 8:23?AM Todd Tavares < > > > tavares0947 at gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Kenwood, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> You know you screwed up right? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> You shouldn't have let it us know you have a CNC. ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Todd T. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 10:47 AM Kenwood _ < > kenwood364 at gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >>> Hello all. Just wanted to say, its so sad to hear about stans > > > > > passing. > > > > > > >> I've > > > > > > >>> obviously never met him, but its clear how much of a core > > > > centerpiece > > > > > > he > > > > > > >>> was. He's mentioned in every piece of literature and > > > documentation > > > > > all > > > > > > >> over > > > > > > >>> the internet. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Im in the process of machining several new parts for my boat, > > > > mostly > > > > > > mast > > > > > > >>> fittings, broken parts, etc. But im mostly just copying what > > > > pieces i > > > > > > >> have. > > > > > > >>> My boat didn't come with sheets (for the jib or the main) and > > it > > > > > didn't > > > > > > >>> come with a traveler. I was wondering.. if anyone had > > > > > dimensions/specs > > > > > > >> for > > > > > > >>> these pieces? Or perhaps know of an equivalent locking main > > > sheet? > > > > > Ive > > > > > > >>> already purchased and begun assembling a new traveler. Its > > going > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > a > > > > > > >>> roller type with a set of blocks either end. But ive also > seen > > > the > > > > > > >> locking > > > > > > >>> pin style. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> Thanks so much. > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> [image: PXL_20240617_174724313.jpg] > > > > > > >>> [image: PXL_20240617_174522017.jpg] > > > > > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > >>> Name: PXL_20240617_174724313.jpg > > > > > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > > > > > >>> Size: 3221948 bytes > > > > > > >>> Desc: not available > > > > > > >>> URL: < > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240620%2F88062c7d%2Fattachment.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ced64dd3bcdc448ebb02908dc93900384%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638547493946146910%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ob659ULQ5jg4A1jePJCspqSdLhGlCVL8yaOedt5E2dA%3D&reserved=0 > > < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240620/88062c7d/attachment.jpg > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > > >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > > >>> Name: PXL_20240617_174522017.jpg > > > > > > >>> Type: image/jpeg > > > > > > >>> Size: 2581451 bytes > > > > > > >>> Desc: not available > > > > > > >>> URL: < > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2Fattachments%2F20240620%2F88062c7d%2Fattachment-0001.jpg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ced64dd3bcdc448ebb02908dc93900384%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638547493946156266%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=xep0yvkP1bFUjjkCtXsIBqP%2B4qo3G%2BoxuvoLFZYpuuw%3D&reserved=0 > > < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240620/88062c7d/attachment-0001.jpg > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Spreader2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 336172 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Spreader1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 296301 bytes Desc: not available URL: From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 4 23:29:48 2024 From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 23:29:48 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My mast is bent Message-ID: When I bought this boat a bit over a year ago, I didn't realize that the base of the IMF mast was bent. Sailing last year I was aware that the pop top slider was binding, but I didn't give it too much (enough) thought. I was looking into it today and realized that the back of the port side mast got pushed in somewhere along the way (see photos). I'm not worried about sailing as is, but I'd like to get it set back enough to minimize the binding of the sliders. Anyone (Roger) have any insights into how to nudge this back a bit? Thanks, Peter [ Sent From rhodes22.net ] -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20240704_142252.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2521613 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20240704_142258.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2487099 bytes Desc: not available URL: From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Thu Jul 4 23:51:11 2024 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 03:51:11 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My mast is bent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter, It?s a little hard to tell from the photos. But, with the mast unstepped, it looks like the lips could be bent back with a pair of pliers. You might have to file a bit off the bottom in order to clear the screw heads on the mast tabernacle. Is anything binding with the mainsail ? Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 1978. Sanford, MI Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2024, at 11:30?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > ?When I bought this boat a bit over a year ago, I didn't realize that the base of the IMF mast was bent. Sailing last year I was aware that the pop top slider was binding, but I didn't give it too much (enough) thought. I was looking into it today and realized that the back of the port side mast got pushed in somewhere along the way (see photos). > I'm not worried about sailing as is, but I'd like to get it set back enough to minimize the binding of the sliders. Anyone (Roger) have any insights into how to nudge this back a bit? > > Thanks, > Peter > > [ Sent From rhodes22.net ] > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_20240704_142252.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2521613 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_20240704_142258.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2487099 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 5 10:30:10 2024 From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 10:30:10 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My mast is bent Message-ID: Thanks for your thoughts Roger. The mainsail furler seems to work fine. The slider only binds up in the bottom 18 to 24 inches of the mast. I usually don't leave the pop top attached to the slider because of this, and it makes it tough to drop the boom to the lower position (I've never tried furling with the boom in "1st reef" position... It might bind). I think I'll try some gentle love with a pair of pliers and see if I can persuade the mast to return to shape, or close to. Peter [ Sent From rhodes22.net ] From roger_pihlaja at msn.com Fri Jul 5 10:53:03 2024 From: roger_pihlaja at msn.com (ROGER PIHLAJA) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:53:03 +0000 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My mast is bent In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Peter, You can either purchase or a rent a tool for removing/installing external snap rings. You want the style with a jack screw. Place the jaws into the slot and jack the lips apart. Look for this tool in an auto parts store or a hardware store. This tool would allow you to apply gentle but powerful force right where you want it. You don?t really want to pry the lips up like pliers would do. You want to get in between the lips and pry them apart laterally. Forcing some sort of wedge in between the lips might also accomplish what you want to do. Roger Pihlaja S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 1978. Sanford, MI Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2024, at 10:30?AM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list wrote: > > ?Thanks for your thoughts Roger. The mainsail furler seems to work fine. The slider only binds up in the bottom 18 to 24 inches of the mast. I usually don't leave the pop top attached to the slider because of this, and it makes it tough to drop the boom to the lower position (I've never tried furling with the boom in "1st reef" position... It might bind). > I think I'll try some gentle love with a pair of pliers and see if I can persuade the mast to return to shape, or close to. > > Peter > > [ Sent From rhodes22.net ] > From recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 5 11:14:12 2024 From: recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com (peter beckerman) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 11:14:12 -0400 Subject: [Rhodes22-list] My mast is bent Message-ID: Thanks Roger, I will look for one of those tools Peter [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]