[Rhodes22-list] Mooring advice

Thu Jun 13 08:23:18 EDT 2024

Hi Ric,

Yes, I guess it's a little off topic; but, no one seems to mind.

In the two years leading up to my pacemaker implant, I had two cardiac ablations as well.  Now, there's a medical procedure that sounds something from science fiction!  Each one "cured" my A-Fib for awhile.  But, each one also left me with electrical burns and scarring inside my heart.  It took me several months of therapy to get any aerobic stamina back both times.  Except for the scuba diving incident, my pacemaker has been good to live with for 2+ years.  My A-Fib loading with the pacemaker is < 2%, which is considered excellent.

Apparently, my physical therapist at the Beaverton Therapy Center gave me a good rating after my two knee replacements.  They are going to trust me to do my PT on my own at home.  I have an appointment with my orthopedic surgeon in two weeks to evaluate my progress and take X-Rays to verify the implant is still in the proper position.  If I'm not making sufficient progress, they will assign me to formal PT and my therapist will "make me".  I suffered for two groups of sessions, three 1 hour sessions/week for six weeks each under her "kind, gentle care" with my knees and I don't want her to "make me".  So far, I've been doing my PT in bed 1st thing in the morning.

So, I'm back at home now.  The hip is very sore when I'm doing my PT or if I walk with my walker too much.  But, the pain goes away quickly as soon as I lay down and get the load off the hip.  Nothing to do now but heal and get stronger.

What's a good time to call you?

Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978  Sanford, MI

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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Mooring advice

Kind of Off-subject for the list, but - - -
We share more than one could imagine. I had A-fib as well and it was cured,  in 2008 with a Cardiac Ablation.
That process, a modern medical miracle  worked well until I got the Flue that year. Then it set off  an Atrial Flutter, which was really, really bad.
Another ablation cured that problem -  no further A-fib or mis-beats.
Got a new right knee last November, and thought I needed the left knee done as well, but the left side is feeling better enough that I put off that replacement for the time being.
You are so right, it sounds like neither one of us would be here with medical intervention.
But we both are able to keep doing the things we love.
What amazing  times we  live in.
Be well
Ric
SV Dadventure ‘84
Hampton Bays, NY

Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
ric at stottarchitecture.com
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> On Jun 11, 2024, at 10:28 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ric,
>
> So far, I’ve had both knees, my right hip, a pacemaker (A-Fib), and cataract surgery on both eyes.  I’m slowly going bionic!  So far, the results of all this parts replacement have been good.
>
> I just got back from my second PT session.  Besides walking with a walker about 400 ft, I learned how to use stairs, a ramp, and getting into/out of of a car.  I’m a little sore; but, it’s much easier than the knees were!
>
> I had an interesting experience with my pacemaker the first time I tried to scuba dive with it.  It turns out the “controllers” for breathing rate and heart rate are both located in the same part of the brain in the medulla.  But, they apparently don’t talk to each other.  Both controllers receive the same signal from the body to increase/decrease oxygen supply.  So, one controller causes the heart rate to go up and the other controller causes the breathing rate to increase.  In many mass transfer devices, like the lungs, there are often two rate limiting factors.  In the case of the lungs, the rate of blood flow controls how much oxygen/carbon dioxide can be transferred from the blood across the avioli membrane into/out of  the air sacs.  But, the breathing rate controls how fast that gas can be transferred in and out of the lungs.  Normally, the two controllers ramp up and down together; but, one is not influenced by the other.  They just get the same input signal from the body and each does their thing.  But, when you get a pacemaker, the default max heart rate is set to 95 bpm.  So now, underwater the body is calling for more oxygen.  The breathing rate goes up, but the heart rate is limited by the pacemaker.  Slow blood flow in the lungs prevents enough gas exchange to satisfy the body’s need.  The body keeps calling for more oxygen and the breathing rate keeps going up to supply it.  But, the heart rate just keeps plodding along, limited to 95 bpm.  On land, this would be no big deal.  You would just get out of breath and stop.  But, underwater, you go thru a tank of air VERY quickly.  In my case, I used up my air and had to buddy breathe from my diving partner’s tank to safely get back to the surface.  This included a decompression stop to prevent the bends.  This was the first time I’ve ever had to buddy breathe except in training exercises.
>
> To solve this issue, my cardiologist laid a plastic disk on my chest.  The antenna in the disk linked with the implanted pacemaker.  They remotely reprogrammed my pacemaker and reset the max heart rate to 190 bpm.  I haven’t had any issues scuba diving since then.  What a marvelous age we live in!
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978. Sanford, MI
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:54 PM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Roger
>> I had both my hips replaced in 2007.
>> Had a revision to the left one due to metalosis. I had a Birmingham hip because I was an athlete and wanted full range of motion with no chance of a dislocation.
>> Anyway, they have been great since.All my best to you for a speedy recovery. Pain free is a whole new outlook.
>> Enjoy it.
>> Ric
>> Sv Dadventure.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:27 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Art,
>>>
>>> I’m in the hospital getting a hip replacement.  I’m supposed to be discharged tomorrow afternoon.  I will try to call you then.
>>>
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2024, at 10:47 AM, Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Roger,
>>>> Would you give a call at 404 295-7777 when convenient. I am going to sell Mary Jane soon and would appreciate your advise.
>>>> Appreciate your posts.
>>>> Art Czerwonky
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 10:16 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA<roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:   Matt,
>>>>
>>>> So attach the mooring line to the lower ring with an eye splice, thimble, and shackle.  Route the mooring line around the ball, thru the top ring, and to the boat.  With no knot or other attachment at the top ring, the load will be transferred to the lower ring.  But, the mooring line will still be easily grabbed with your boat hook.
>>>>
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 9:43 AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the one thing the  city specified is that they want the pennant
>>>>> attached to the bottom of the mooring though several of the boats use the
>>>>> top ring.  If I can get away with using the top, it is much simpler.  Is it
>>>>> strong enough?  Would two lines, one though both chocks be better?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were to use a “safety line” (second line) where would I attach it.
>>>>> Same place as the primary so it doesn’t twist when the boat swings?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 8:19 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On mooring balls I’ve used, there is a steel rod running thru the center
>>>>>> of the ball from top to bottom.  The chain to the anchor attaches to a ring
>>>>>> at the bottom.  The mooring line to the boat attaches to a ring on the top
>>>>>> of the ball.  The steel rod connects everything together.  With the mooring
>>>>>> line attached to the top of the ball, it doesn’t need a float.  It is just
>>>>>> hanging off the top of the ball waiting to be snagged with a boat hook.  If
>>>>>> the mooring line is attached to the bottom of the mooring ball, you either
>>>>>> need to use floating line like polypropylene or a float.  Otherwise, the
>>>>>> line will be underwater and difficult to snag.  Polypropylene line is not
>>>>>> as strong as nylon and less UV resistant.  How was your mooring setup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>> 1978. Sanford MI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 8:26 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <Roger_Pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would use 3/8” nylon double braid with an eye splice and a thimble and
>>>>>> shackle at the mooring ball.  Use of a thimble and shackle will greatly
>>>>>> reduce chafe.  But, keep an eye on it anyway.  A properly done eye splice
>>>>>> is nearly as strong as the line itself, much stronger than any knot.  Don’t
>>>>>> forget to safety wire your shackles.  I like to run the mooring line thru
>>>>>> the bow eye (the one you broke) and then up to the bow line chock and
>>>>>> cleat.  Using the bow eye lowers the point of attachment on the boat, thus
>>>>>> reducing the loads.  But, there are others on the Rhodes list that prefer
>>>>>> to just run the line up to the line chock and cleat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>>> S/C S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry for the confusion. How should I attach the nylon mooring line from
>>>>>>>> the boat? Currently my mooring line is a chain and is attached to a
>>>>>> shackle
>>>>>>>> directly underneath the mooring ball. Do I tie a knot to that shackle or
>>>>>>>> ??
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The owners of the mooring is the City of White Bear Lake.    They have
>>>>>>>> loose guidelines but do not specify mooring pennant material.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 6:34 AM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Matt,
>>>>>>>>> So the line from the bottom of the mooring ball is leading to the
>>>>>> anchor?
>>>>>>>>> I like to use all chain with a shackle and swivel at the mooring
>>>>>> ball.  It
>>>>>>>>> it somewhat controversial whether to use a swivel or not and where to
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> it.  I like to put it at the mooring ball because I can inspect it and
>>>>>>>>> replace it relatively easily.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’m surprised the owners of your mooring field don’t have their own
>>>>>>>>> rigging guidelines.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 8, 2024, at 11:21 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks guys,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What’s the best way to attach a line to the bottom of the mooring
>>>>>> ball. A
>>>>>>>>>> metal shackle and bowline? Anchor hitch?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The fiberglass appears to be totally intact.  I never found the U ring
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> one of the bolts was still in there broken cleanly some rust present
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> backing plate on my 1990 boat appears to be wood and there was no
>>>>>> metal
>>>>>>>>>> plate present either on the outside or inside. We had a sudden gust
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> 40mph maybe a bit more on a windy but sunny day. Thanks for the
>>>>>> warning
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the glass. I’ll look again more closely tomorrow but I didn’t see
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>> as I was installing the new one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:56 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would go with a double line (3/8 or larger)  that goes through the
>>>>>>>>> chocks
>>>>>>>>>>> to the bow cleat. I would not use the bow ring.
>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>> gstewart.gm at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 5:05 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Stewart,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know these are general boating questions so thanks for the help.
>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>> size and type of line would you recommend?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake MN
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 3:41 PM Graham Stewart <
>>>>>> gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you connecting the bow ring to the mooring with chain alone? If
>>>>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run the risk of wearing right through the metal hardware or chain.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connection to the boat should  always use lines. You can add a
>>>>>> snuber
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shock reduction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gstewart.gm at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 1:04 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I spent a few hours putting in a new, heavier bow ring and then we
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks out for a stunning sunset sail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes the ring that attaches the boat to the trailer. That ring was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my mooring and broke from fatigue during a 40 mph sustained
>>>>>> gust.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a chain on a mooring on a fairly  large MN lake.  It’s mostly
>>>>>>>>>>> sheltered
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when those SE breezes come up there is about 1.5 mi of open water
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be a fair amount of wave action on top of sustained 20mph
>>>>>> winds
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Should I be concerned that the boat fiberglass could be damaged?
>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts on some kind of spring or a better set up?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HornblowerII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 4:13 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <
>>>>>> roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the ring on the bow which is used to winch
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onto the trailer?  Does the bow have a big hole where the ring
>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What sort of conditions did it take to do that?  What are you
>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do to repair ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does your boat have bow line chocks?  If yes, then just route the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mooring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line from the bow cleat thru the line chock and down to the
>>>>>> mooring
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buoy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could rig a bridle thru each line chock.  But, the boat won’t
>>>>>>>>>>>> ride
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far off center with just one.  I wouldn’t bother with rigging the
>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line.  I presume this will be temporary?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  I've seen setups where a yoke is created by a line tied at
>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 foredeck cleats and leading around the bow, connected to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line that goes to the mooring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I am curious about that sheared bow ring.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 03:29:27 PM EDT, Matt Wilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just had a bow ring shear off during a storm.  Any advice on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mooring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buoy without one…just using the foredeck cleat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Much appreciated,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>