[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails

Thu Feb 27 17:09:19 EST 2025

Good afternoon everyone,

If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
a current address for him?

Many thanks,
Matt WIlson
Hornblower II
White Bear Lake, MN

On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36 PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Multiple locations.
> Still being developed, as we can.
>
> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a million
> years.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
> > settle down for us.
> >
> > Chris G.
> > Xenos
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51 PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
> possible!
> > >
> > > Cindy Spitzer
> > > 443-980-7367
> > >
> > >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06 PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> > >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
> > >> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> > >> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
> > >>    On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> Geankoplis
> > <
> > >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I’ll check if
> I
> > >> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> > >> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00 PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> > >>>
> > >>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> physically
> > >>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
> Rhodes
> > >>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
> > >> large
> > >>> and small.
> > >>>
> > >>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
> > >>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> > options,
> > >>> etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> > >>>
> > >>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
> and
> > >>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> > >> Stan's
> > >>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> > >>> otherwise busy lives.
> > >>>
> > >>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy Spitzer
> > >>> 443-980-7367
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks everyone!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
> Orla
> > is
> > >>>> facing. Unfortunately, it’s affected several of us.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
> website
> > >>>> somewhere?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31 PM Cindy Spitzer <
> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> > >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> 22
> > >>>>> sails.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> > >>>>> 443-980-7367
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hey Matt it’s Ric.
> > >>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol’
> Mike
> > >> in
> > >>>>>> ‘2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> > and
> > >>>>>> remains my next project.
> > >>>>>> Regarding ‘another note’,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
> be
> > >>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
> > it
> > >>>> out
> > >>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
> > >> 1984
> > >>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
> and
> > >>>>> check
> > >>>>>> it out, I’ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> > feel
> > >>>>> you
> > >>>>>> can afford. I’m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
> > >>>> might
> > >>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> > >>>>>> Here is my email.
> > >>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > >>>>>> If I don’t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > >>>>>> Ric
> > >>>>>> Dadventure
> > >>>>>> HBNY
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> > >>>>> unkept,
> > >>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> > >>>>> patient
> > >>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> > >>>> disappointed
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> how this turned out.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Matt
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21 PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> Rhodes
> > >>>>>> floated
> > >>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> > it's
> > >>>>>> short
> > >>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> > on a
> > >>>>>> price,
> > >>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> layers
> > >>>> of
> > >>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> > you
> > >>>> a
> > >>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
> have
> > >>>> 2.".
> > >>>>>> This
> > >>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> > that
> > >>>> is
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > >>>>>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> > behalf
> > >>>> of
> > >>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> > >>>>> grateful
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
> regularly
> > >>>>>> supplies.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> > parting
> > >>>>> out
> > >>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> > offer
> > >>>>>> and we
> > >>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
> > shipped
> > >>>>> them
> > >>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
> > >>>> Lees
> > >>>>>> Sails
> > >>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
> > >>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> > believe
> > >>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
> leads
> > me
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>> my
> > >>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
> > it
> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> received
> > >>>>> those
> > >>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
> > responsible
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> > >>>> dealing
> > >>>>>> with
> > >>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> > helpful
> > >>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>> honest.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
> let
> > me
> > >>>>>> know,
> > >>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > >>>>>> situation.
> > >>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> > mwhornblower at gmail.com
> > >>>> or
> > >>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
> > >>>> they
> > >>>>>> would
> > >>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
> the
> > >>>>>> budget at
> > >>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> > >>>>>>>> Hornblower II
> > >>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>