[Rhodes22-list] Traveler setup

[Jeffrey Camiel]

So how do I get them from Mike? Lol 

> On Jun 19, 2025, at 3:16 PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jeffrey
> 
> This is a screenshot of the boat Mike is selling which shows the traveler
> attached to the backstays. I'm sure you have it figured out by now.
> 
> I hope Mike doesn't mind...
> 
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> Todd T
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 9:36 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jeffery,
>> 
>> Typically...and I say that loosely because I have only seen about a dozen
>> other Rhodes 22s with factory travelers, but the bar style traveler fits
>> into those 1" cups (stanchion end caps actually) which are captured on the
>> backstays about 15" up from the chainplate fittings attached at the transom
>> corners.
>> The bar style traveler style has changed a few times over the years; as
>> you can see when comparing yours to the picture Mike shared, but they serve
>> the same function.
>> 
>> I asked Mike how his attached because some owners have made their own
>> travelers in the past to mimic the General Boats bar style and have come up
>> with creative ways to attach them to the backstays. Adding the captured end
>> caps would require cutting the the swaged eyes off the ends of the stays
>> and adding new end fittings such as a Sta-lok or some other aftermarket end
>> fitting.
>> 
>> Just for the full history; before about 1985—ish there was no real
>> traveler. There only a  cable between the backstay chainplates which had
>> enough slack to form a V shape above the tiller handle. The mainsheet
>> blocks rode on that cable and you could tow it beamwise...no easy task.
>> I have pics on my laptop at home of all of the different styles and pieces
>> if you are curious.
>> Probably TMI...
>> 
>> Todd T
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 9:06 AM Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for helping clarify.
>>> 
>>> Actually my question was entirely open ended cause I have no clue what I
>>> am doing with this. lol.
>>> 
>>> I do have end caps on the backstays.  I am doing mast raise this weekend.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 19, 2025, at 7:11 AM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> The picture you posted (like the original poster's picture) shows the
>>> end
>>>> caps on the removed traveler. I thought the end caps were captured on
>>> the
>>>> backstays.
>>>> How does your traveler attach to the backstays if the end caps are not
>>>> captured...meaning the backstays do not run through holes in the end
>>> caps?
>>>> I think this is also Jeffrey's original question.
>>>> 
>>>> Todd T.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 6:26 PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is how it should look (from "da list" archives):
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2021-May/088137.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> or
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2018-May/081969.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>>> I’d rather be sailing :~)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>>>>> ROGER PIHLAJA
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2025 5:22 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler setup
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The traveler bar does not connect to the stern pulpit.  When the mast
>>> is
>>>>> stepped, look at the wires on the double backstay.  About 3’ up from
>>> the
>>>>> deck, you should see a stainless steel socket on each backstay.  The
>>>>> traveler bar inserts into these sockets and is held there by fast pins.
>>>>> This traveler design has many advantages:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1.  It’s readily at hand for the helmsman, yet out of the way of
>>> cockpit
>>>>> traffic.
>>>>> 2. Mounting the traveler on the backstays provides a sort of shock
>>>>> absorber in case of an accidental crash jibe.
>>>>> 3. The control lines can be preset to the desired position prior to
>>> coming
>>>>> about.
>>>>> 4. With 2:1 power, the mainsail can be quickly trimmed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once you’ve used it, I think you’ll like it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 4:40 PM, Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How the heck does this trailer connect to the stern pulpit?  And what
>>>>> hardware is needed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or is there a newer one I can buy?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or have most folks modified and put a track in forward of the stern
>>>>> locker?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
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