From ric at stottarchitecture.com  Mon Mar  3 13:19:38 2025
From: ric at stottarchitecture.com (Ric Stott)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 13:19:38 -0500
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him. 
Ric 
Dadventure 

Mike Orla 
5 Overlook Road 
Quincy, MA zip?


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP 
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> 
> If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
> a current address for him?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Matt WIlson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
> 
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Multiple locations.
>> Still being developed, as we can.
>> 
>> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a million
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>>> settle down for us.
>>> 
>>> Chris G.
>>> Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
>> possible!
>>>> 
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
>> Geankoplis
>>> <
>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
>> I
>>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
>> physically
>>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
>> Rhodes
>>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>>> large
>>>>>> and small.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>>> options,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
>> and
>>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
>> Orla
>>> is
>>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
>> website
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
>> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
>> 22
>>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
>> Mike
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
>> be
>>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>>> it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>> and
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
>>> feel
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
>>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
>>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
>> layers
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>>> you
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
>> have
>>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C546d9a1ac5d243387ed308dd577b6bf0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638762909802497269%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2FpjzR1rSyaTCzNJMLEtam4ieO6s7CBNITm2D5EhmRzg%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
>> regularly
>>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>>> parting
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
>>> shipped
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
>> leads
>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
>> received
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>>> helpful
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
>> let
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
>> the
>>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 


From ruehbl at msn.com  Mon Mar  3 14:27:13 2025
From: ruehbl at msn.com (BARRY RUEHLEN)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 19:27:13 +0000
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.

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________________________________
From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails

I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
Ric
Dadventure

Mike Orla
5 Overlook Road
Quincy, MA zip?


Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164



> On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
> a current address for him?
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt WIlson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Multiple locations.
>> Still being developed, as we can.
>>
>> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a million
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>>> settle down for us.
>>>
>>> Chris G.
>>> Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
>> possible!
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
>> Geankoplis
>>> <
>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
>> I
>>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
>> physically
>>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
>> Rhodes
>>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>>> large
>>>>>> and small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>>> options,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
>> and
>>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
>> Orla
>>> is
>>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
>> website
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
>> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
>> 22
>>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
>> Mike
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
>> be
>>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>>> it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>> and
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
>>> feel
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
>>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
>>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
>> layers
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>>> you
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
>> have
>>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963923719%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DvLDfmMdIsLPyB0VTKWQqnl5Nl039Mv0%2FLG0cwe5qco%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963935459%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XGiWz%2BqsY8GZLzZNSC52X%2FuJKzEVR84lKNZ0ZaU3l1Y%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
>> regularly
>>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>>> parting
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
>>> shipped
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
>> leads
>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
>> received
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>>> helpful
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
>> let
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
>> the
>>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>


From mwhornblower at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 15:48:49 2025
From: mwhornblower at gmail.com (Matt Wilson)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:48:49 -0600
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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Thanks so much!
Matt

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 1:37?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric
> Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this
> is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
> Ric
> Dadventure
>
> Mike Orla
> 5 Overlook Road
> Quincy, MA zip?
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0
> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >
> > Good afternoon everyone,
> >
> > If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> > saga.  Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you
> have
> > a current address for him?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt WIlson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Multiple locations.
> >> Still being developed, as we can.
> >>
> >> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.  It's been a
> million
> >> years.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So where is it being moved to?  Wish I could volunteer, maybe when
> things
> >>> settle down for us.
> >>>
> >>> Chris G.
> >>> Xenos
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
> >> possible!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Cindy.  It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
> >>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> >>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
> >>>>>   On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> >> Geankoplis
> >>> <
> >>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
> >> I
> >>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> >>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> >> physically
> >>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other
> items,
> >>>>> large
> >>>>>> and small.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to
> provide
> >>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> >>> options,
> >>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
> >> and
> >>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> >>>>> Stan's
> >>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> >>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
> >> Orla
> >>> is
> >>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
> >> website
> >>>>>>> somewhere?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> >> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> >> 22
> >>>>>>>> sails.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> >>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> >> Mike
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will
> dig
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most
> likely
> >>>>> 1984
> >>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> >>> feel
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so
> I
> >>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> >>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
> >>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> >>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> >>>>>>>>> Ric
> >>>>>>>>> Dadventure
> >>>>>>>>> HBNY
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> >>>>>>>> unkept,
> >>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> >>>>>>>> patient
> >>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> >>>>>>> disappointed
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>>>>> floated
> >>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> >>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> short
> >>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> >>> on a
> >>>>>>>>> price,
> >>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> >> layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> >>> you
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
> >> have
> >>>>>>> 2.".
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more
> repairs.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> >>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
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> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> >>> behalf
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!
> ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> >>>>>>>> grateful
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
> >> regularly
> >>>>>>>>> supplies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> >>> parting
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> >>> offer
> >>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
> >>> shipped
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set
> of
> >>>>>>> Lees
> >>>>>>>>> Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .
> The
> >>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> >>> believe
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which
> >> leads
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this
> situation,
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> >> received
> >>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
> >>> responsible
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> >>>>>>> dealing
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> >>> helpful
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> honest.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
> >> let
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> >>>>>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> >>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape
> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> budget at
> >>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
> >>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

From a_czerwonky at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  3 17:21:49 2025
From: a_czerwonky at yahoo.com (Art Czerwonky)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
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I am still looking for a rudder for MaryJane.????? 

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  On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 3:49 PM, Matt Wilson<mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:   Thanks so much!
Matt

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 1:37?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:

> That sure looks like the address I had 2 years ago.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric
> Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 1:19:38 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this
> is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
> Ric
> Dadventure
>
> Mike Orla
> 5 Overlook Road
> Quincy, MA zip?
>
>
> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> O -631-283-1777
> C- 516-965-3164
>
>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7Ce92a8434f8664015344b08dd5a7ffe70%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638766227963907006%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=EsKarKfdOEhg7eIdF0tyC5h8pw8mTgD%2BOV9PHqmpqkY%3D&reserved=0
> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
> > ________________________________
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >
> > Good afternoon everyone,
> >
> > If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> > saga.? Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you
> have
> > a current address for him?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Matt WIlson
> > Hornblower II
> > White Bear Lake, MN
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Multiple locations.
> >> Still being developed, as we can.
> >>
> >> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris.? It's been a
> million
> >> years.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <
> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So where is it being moved to?? Wish I could volunteer, maybe when
> things
> >>> settle down for us.
> >>>
> >>> Chris G.
> >>> Xenos
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
> >> possible!
> >>>>
> >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Cindy.? It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
> >>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> >>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
> >>>>>? On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> >> Geankoplis
> >>> <
> >>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Cindy!? Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if
> >> I
> >>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> >>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> >> physically
> >>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other
> items,
> >>>>> large
> >>>>>> and small.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to
> provide
> >>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> >>> options,
> >>>>>> etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
> >> and
> >>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> >>>>> Stan's
> >>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> >>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
> >> Orla
> >>> is
> >>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.? Are those sails listed on the
> >> website
> >>>>>>> somewhere?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> >> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> >> 22
> >>>>>>>> sails.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
> >>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <
> ric at stottarchitecture.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> >>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> >> Mike
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
> >>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might
> >> be
> >>>>>>>>> willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will
> dig
> >>> it
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most
> likely
> >>>>> 1984
> >>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
> >> and
> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you
> >>> feel
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so
> I
> >>>>>>> might
> >>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> >>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
> >>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> >>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> >>>>>>>>> Ric
> >>>>>>>>> Dadventure
> >>>>>>>>> HBNY
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises
> >>>>>>>> unkept,
> >>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> >>>>>>>> patient
> >>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very
> >>>>>>> disappointed
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> >> Rhodes
> >>>>>>>>> floated
> >>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> >>> it's
> >>>>>>>>> short
> >>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> >>> on a
> >>>>>>>>> price,
> >>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> >> layers
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> >>> you
> >>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
> >> have
> >>>>>>> 2.".
> >>>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> >>> that
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more
> repairs.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> >>> behalf
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.? It won't be long now!
> ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> >>>>>>>> grateful
> >>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
> >> regularly
> >>>>>>>>> supplies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> >>> parting
> >>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.? I reached out to his
> >>> offer
> >>>>>>>>> and we
> >>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.? Once he
> >>> shipped
> >>>>>>>> them
> >>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set
> of
> >>>>>>> Lees
> >>>>>>>>> Sails
> >>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .
> The
> >>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> >>> believe
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.? Which
> >> leads
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> my
> >>>>>>>>>>> question.? As we consider our options to rectify this
> situation,
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> >> received
> >>>>>>>> those
> >>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him.? I of course would hold him fully
> >>> responsible
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.? I suppose it's a risk I took
> >>>>>>> dealing
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> a private party.? I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> >>> helpful
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> honest.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
> >> let
> >>> me
> >>>>>>>>> know,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> >>>>>>>>> situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> >>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape
> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.? I don't have
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>> budget at
> >>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
> >>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>