[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
Ric Stott
ric at stottarchitecture.com
Mon Mar 3 13:19:38 EST 2025
I jut found this address in my email. To sure if this is correct but this is the address where I picked up the IMF mast from him.
Ric
Dadventure
Mike Orla
5 Overlook Road
Quincy, MA zip?
Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP
ric at stottarchitecture.com
O -631-283-1777
C- 516-965-3164
> On Feb 28, 2025, at 7:14 AM, BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry Matt, I don't have an address for him.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 5:09:19 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> If I could ask your forbearance with one more question related to my sail
> saga. Those of you who purchased something from Michael Orla, do you have
> a current address for him?
>
> Many thanks,
> Matt WIlson
> Hornblower II
> White Bear Lake, MN
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:36 PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Multiple locations.
>> Still being developed, as we can.
>>
>> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris. It's been a million
>> years.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So where is it being moved to? Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>>> settle down for us.
>>>
>>> Chris G.
>>> Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51 PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all
>> possible!
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06 PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Cindy. It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
>> Geankoplis
>>> <
>>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Cindy! Hope you and your family are doing well. I’ll check if
>> I
>>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00 PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
>> physically
>>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used
>> Rhodes
>>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>>> large
>>>>>> and small.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>>> options,
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate,
>> and
>>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr.
>> Orla
>>> is
>>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it’s affected several of us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the
>> website
>>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31 PM Cindy Spitzer <
>> cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
>> 22
>>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com
>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it’s Ric.
>>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol’
>> Mike
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ‘2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>>> and
>>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>>> Regarding ‘another note’, I happen to have a Genoa that I might
>> be
>>>>>>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>>> it
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>> and
>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>> it out, I’ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you
>>> feel
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can afford. I’m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>>> If I don’t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21 PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
>> Rhodes
>>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>>> on a
>>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
>> layers
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>>> you
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will
>> have
>>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>>> that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>>> behalf
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource
>> regularly
>>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>>> parting
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his
>>> offer
>>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he
>>> shipped
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which
>> leads
>>> me
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>>> it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
>> received
>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully
>>> responsible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>>> helpful
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to
>> let
>>> me
>>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have
>> the
>>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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