[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4596, Issue 1
David Worth
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Tue May 6 14:49:18 EDT 2025
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> 1. Re: Rhodes Sails (Art Czerwonky)
> 2. Re: Rhodes Sails (Art Czerwonky)
> 3. Re: Bottom paint (Michael McKay)
> 4. Re: Rhodes Sails (BARRY RUEHLEN)
> 5. Re: Bottom paint (Michael D. Weisner)
> 6. Re: Bottom paint (Michael D. Weisner)
> 7. Re: Rhodes Sails (Matt Wilson)
> 8. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
> 9. Re: Rhodes Sails (Chris Geankoplis)
> 10. Re: Rhodes Sails (Donald Simons)
> 11. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
> 12. Re: Rhodes Sails (Chris Geankoplis)
> 13. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:31:06 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID: <1233443046.674089.1739673066534 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> Fellow Skippers,?
> I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number of boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.?
> Best to you,Art Czerwonky?
>
> Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:14 PM, BARRY RUEHLEN<ruehbl at msn.com> wrote: Matt,
> Yes I did eventually get a centerboard. I just can't tell you the strangeness of the encounter. Delays, excuses, promises, lies. After a couple months I told him to refund my money and I'd be happy to go to him to get it, or send the board and give me a tracking number the following day. I really don't think he's right in the head.
> Best,
> Barry Ruehlen
> SV Perseverance
> '86 Rhodes 22
> St James City, Fl.
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:23:31 PM
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and remains my next project.
> Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might be willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will dig it out asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984 original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other? and check it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you feel you can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I might get distracted from your dilemma.
> Here is my email.
> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> Ric
> Dadventure
> HBNY
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>
>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>
>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises unkept,
>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very patient
>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very disappointed in
>> how this turned out.
>>
>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes floated
>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's short
>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a price,
>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers of
>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you a
>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have 2.". This
>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that is in
>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C42b03d80d4b34b5801c708dd4dfea591%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638752478296137504%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=cA1MssHqtjFxkxPauAGtU%2FoodZ08NHlNj0B9VigLBu8%3D&reserved=0<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I hope your off season is going well.? It won't be long now!? ;)
>>>
>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am grateful for
>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly supplies.
>>>
>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>
>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting out
>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.? I reached out to his offer and we
>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.? Once he shipped them
>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of Lees Sails
>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .? The
>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe that
>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.? Which leads me to my
>>> question.? As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it would
>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received those
>>> North Sails from him.? I of course would hold him fully responsible for
>>> this if this was truly the case.? I suppose it's a risk I took dealing with
>>> a private party.? I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful and
>>> honest.
>>>
>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me know,
>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this situation.
>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com or
>>> 612-770-4531
>>>
>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that they would
>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.? I don't have the budget at
>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>
>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:36:26 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID: <878631438.681396.1739673386865 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Barry,?
> You have a perfect sailing venue,? which you have discovered. Removed from most of the fleet as I am in Atlanta.? What year boat?
> Art?
>
> Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:31 PM, Art Czerwonky<a_czerwonky at yahoo.com> wrote: Fellow Skippers,?
> I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number of boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.?
> Best to you,Art Czerwonky?
>
> Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:19:41 -0500
> From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> Message-ID: <AEA3864E-2383-4DC6-B8C5-9A6B8EB60A3B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> If you do this, you should consider replacing the rubber gasket for the cap while you?re at it. This forum has threads about that process. I have some leftover material if anyone needs it?I had to buy a wide piece and cut it down to size.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 12, 2025, at 5:51?PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?PBR,
>>
>> Removing the centerboard from inside by removing the trunk cap is the only
>> way to paint the entire centerboard and trunk slot.
>> But that is no easy task, as there are a lot of SS ?-20 bolts with washers
>> and nuts holding the cover down.
>> I pulled mine put that way to address a crack in the trunk cover and to
>> replace the c/b pennant line as well as to reconfigure and reinforce the
>> block mountings on the c/b. That allowed me to paint the entire c/b and
>> inside the trunk slot. I painted the entire c/b, both sides at once, by
>> hanging it from a rafter in my garage. Other times, I have just blocked the
>> boat and painted as much of the c/b and trunk as I could from below.
>>
>> The exception to this is if your boat is older; maybe 1975 or earlier, the
>> c/b comes out from the bottom and there is no trunk cap in the cabin to
>> remove.
>>
>> Todd T.
>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 12:31 PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you remove the CB up through the cap while boat is sitting on the
>>> trailer to allow painting the board and inside the trunk?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:34?AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must have doe something wrong. I did have to hide a good bit of the
>>>> different colored indicator coat underneath and a gallon did 2 coats and
>>>> two on the rudder blade, but not the centerboard.
>>>> I painted the centerboard and trunk with 2 coats and plan to do.the hull
>>>> when the weather gets warm, and have barely used any out of the gallon
>>>> bucket.
>>>> You should plan on a gallon.
>>>> I hate to admit it but I just buy the least expensive ablative paint;
>>>> Pettit Hydrocoat.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 10:45 PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>>> I am planning on rolling. I have a friend that can lend me some
>>> boat
>>>>> stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to walk
>>> it
>>>>> up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I have
>>> her
>>>>> about a foot off the bunks. I'm hoping that'll give me enough room to
>>>>> sand, and roll. As always, don't be shy with any advice or insights
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:53:03 +0000
> From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> To: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID:
> <BL0PR02MB65315A7DB32E29F7EA412A7CC1FB2 at BL0PR02MB6531.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Art,
> Our Rhodes is an 86 model. A neighbor and I bought it about 3 years ago knowing it was somewhat of a project, needing extensive tlc. It turned into a complete interior rebuild with dry rot and termites into the stringers. The cockpit deck required new core and nonskid gel repair. We just about had her ready to sail when Ian floated her off the trailer breaking the centerboard and dinging the hull in several spots. That is when we encountered Mike Orla. We decided that after glass repair on the hull, we would not be able to match the red gelcoat. The solution was a new paint job. All of that and more took quite a while. Once we were able to get on the water, we found the motor was not dependable and repowered her. We are just now able to sail comfortably even though we still have some minor gelcoat repairs to finish and rewire the breaker panel. The galley rebuild and sole repairs are complete. That's a very brief rundown of our journey.
> She was previously named Crimson Cloud. New name is Perserverance.
> Best,
> BARRY
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 9:36 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>
> Barry,
> You have a perfect sailing venue, which you have discovered. Removed from most of the fleet as I am in Atlanta. What year boat?
> Art
>
> Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:31 PM, Art Czerwonky<a_czerwonky at yahoo.com> wrote: Fellow Skippers,
> I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number of boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.
> Best to you,Art Czerwonky
>
> Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:33:57 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> Message-ID: <003f01db819c$ccc2a070$6647e150$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I noticed that Pettit has their annual rebate on bottom paint. I use Hydrocoat which has a $50 rebate.
>
> The rebate link is:
> https://pettitpaint.com/rebates
>
> The rebate form is available at:
> https://pettitpaint.com/media/5921/pp-25066-protect-and-propser-rebate-flyer.pdf
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of Michael McKay
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:20 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
>
> If you do this, you should consider replacing the rubber gasket for the cap while you?re at it. This forum has threads about that process. I have some leftover material if anyone needs it?I had to buy a wide piece and cut it down to size.
>
> Michael McKay
> (630) 209-2054 (m)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 12, 2025, at 5:51?PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?PBR,
>>
>> Removing the centerboard from inside by removing the trunk cap is the
>> only way to paint the entire centerboard and trunk slot.
>> But that is no easy task, as there are a lot of SS ?-20 bolts with
>> washers and nuts holding the cover down.
>> I pulled mine put that way to address a crack in the trunk cover and
>> to replace the c/b pennant line as well as to reconfigure and
>> reinforce the block mountings on the c/b. That allowed me to paint the
>> entire c/b and inside the trunk slot. I painted the entire c/b, both
>> sides at once, by hanging it from a rafter in my garage. Other times,
>> I have just blocked the boat and painted as much of the c/b and trunk as I could from below.
>>
>> The exception to this is if your boat is older; maybe 1975 or earlier,
>> the c/b comes out from the bottom and there is no trunk cap in the
>> cabin to remove.
>>
>> Todd T.
>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 12:31 PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you remove the CB up through the cap while boat is sitting on the
>>> trailer to allow painting the board and inside the trunk?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:34?AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must have doe something wrong. I did have to hide a good bit of
>>>> the different colored indicator coat underneath and a gallon did 2
>>>> coats and two on the rudder blade, but not the centerboard.
>>>> I painted the centerboard and trunk with 2 coats and plan to do.the
>>>> hull when the weather gets warm, and have barely used any out of the
>>>> gallon bucket.
>>>> You should plan on a gallon.
>>>> I hate to admit it but I just buy the least expensive ablative
>>>> paint; Pettit Hydrocoat.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 10:45 PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Roger,
>>>>> I am planning on rolling. I have a friend that can lend me some
>>> boat
>>>>> stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to
>>>>> walk
>>> it
>>>>> up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I
>>>>> have
>>> her
>>>>> about a foot off the bunks. I'm hoping that'll give me enough room
>>>>> to sand, and roll. As always, don't be shy with any advice or
>>>>> insights
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:45:15 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> Message-ID: <004201db819e$60a7d7f0$21f787d0$@ebsmed.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Please be very careful when using bottle jacks. I have seen several Rhodes 22 hulls with very round puncture marks in the lower portions. If you insist on jacking the hull up, please distribute the weight over a large area using soft wood blocks. Instead, I use an A-frame made of a pair of through bolted 4x4x12s and a come-along to the from lifting hook. Make sure that the block behind the front hook is in good condition and that the nuts to the U-bolt are tight.
>
> Mike
> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> Nissequogue River, NY
> I?d rather be sailing :~)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of ROGER PIHLAJA
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 2:06 AM
> To: peter beckerman <recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com>; The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Cc: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> It?s important that you prevent the boat stands from shifting. Unless you are painting on concrete, I always put plywood under the legs to prevent the stands from sinking into the soil or blacktop. The boat stands should also come equipped with chains. You should use these to secure the top of the boat stands together. As you are lifting and lowering the boat, you may find several pieces of 4x6 wood are useful to use as cribbing to support a corner while you reposition the jack.
>
> Bottom paint is toxic. Be sure to wear appropriate PPE when you are sanding and painting.
>
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> 1978. Sanford, MI
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 11, 2025, at 10:45?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hi Roger,
>> I am planning on rolling. I have a friend that can lend me some boat stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to walk it up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I have her about a foot off the bunks. I'm hoping that'll give me enough room to sand, and roll. As always, don't be shy with any advice or insights
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 11:38:20 -0600
> From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID:
> <CANbEFCt2W6caRRn_avVUGBPbqAk+DOFyy2dm=pChsgWgFpWArw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>
> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
> somewhere?
>
> Matt
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>> sails.
>>
>> Cindy Spitzer
>> 443-980-7367
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in
>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>> remains my next project.
>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig it out
>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>> check
>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you feel
>> you
>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I might
>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>> Here is my email.
>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>> Ric
>>> Dadventure
>>> HBNY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>
>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>
>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>> unkept,
>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>> patient
>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very disappointed
>> in
>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>
>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>> floated
>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>> short
>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>> price,
>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers of
>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you a
>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have 2.".
>>> This
>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that is
>>> in
>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>> grateful
>>> for
>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>> supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>> out
>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his offer
>>> and we
>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he shipped
>> them
>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of Lees
>>> Sails
>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>> that
>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads me
>> to
>>> my
>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>> would
>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>> those
>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully responsible
>> for
>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took dealing
>>> with
>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>> and
>>>>> honest.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>> know,
>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>> situation.
>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com or
>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>
>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that they
>>> would
>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>> budget at
>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:00:03 -0500
> From: Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID:
> <CABbc6O6+TnvHcTyx5w2zkkhkemN2AEdvATSCUiK1oGyeZzMnHQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>
> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items, large
> and small.
>
> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery options,
> etc.
>
> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>
> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to Stan's
> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>
> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> otherwise busy lives.
>
> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>
> Cindy
>
> Cindy Spitzer
> 443-980-7367
>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>
>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
>> somewhere?
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>> sails.
>>>
>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>> 443-980-7367
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in
>>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>>> remains my next project.
>>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
>> out
>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>>> check
>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you feel
>>> you
>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>> might
>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>> Here is my email.
>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>> Ric
>>>> Dadventure
>>>> HBNY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>
>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>> unkept,
>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>> patient
>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>> disappointed
>>> in
>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>> floated
>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>>> short
>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>>> price,
>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>> of
>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you
>> a
>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>> 2.".
>>>> This
>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
>> is
>>>> in
>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
>> of
>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>> grateful
>>>> for
>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>>> out
>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his offer
>>>> and we
>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he shipped
>>> them
>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>> Lees
>>>> Sails
>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>>> that
>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads me
>>> to
>>>> my
>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>>> would
>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>> those
>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully responsible
>>> for
>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>> dealing
>>>> with
>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>>> and
>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>>> know,
>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>> situation.
>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
>> or
>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>> they
>>>> would
>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>>> budget at
>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:23:42 -0600
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID: <2AD9CD02-0E5D-4F39-B2D7-27F94C538265 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thanks Cindy! Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>
>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items, large
>> and small.
>>
>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery options,
>> etc.
>>
>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>
>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to Stan's
>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>
>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>> otherwise busy lives.
>>
>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> Cindy Spitzer
>> 443-980-7367
>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>
>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>>> sails.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in
>>>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
>>> out
>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>>>> check
>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you feel
>>>> you
>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>> might
>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>>> unkept,
>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>> patient
>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>>> disappointed
>>>> in
>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>>> floated
>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>>>> short
>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>>>> price,
>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>>> of
>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you
>>> a
>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>>> 2.".
>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
>>> is
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
>>> of
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>> grateful
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>>>> out
>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his offer
>>>>> and we
>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he shipped
>>>> them
>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>> Lees
>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads me
>>>> to
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>>> those
>>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully responsible
>>>> for
>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>>> dealing
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>>>> and
>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>>>> know,
>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>> or
>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>> they
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:56:14 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID: <1726577370.1252557.1740016574197 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Cindy.? It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.? Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> Don Simons,?Old Forge, NY
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Cindy!? Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>
>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items, large
>> and small.
>>
>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery options,
>> etc.
>>
>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>
>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to Stan's
>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>
>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>> otherwise busy lives.
>>
>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> Cindy Spitzer
>> 443-980-7367
>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>
>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.? Are those sails listed on the website
>>> somewhere?
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>>> sails.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>> We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in
>>>>> ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>> Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>>> willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
>>> out
>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other? and
>>>> check
>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you feel
>>>> you
>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>> might
>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>> Ric
>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises
>>>> unkept,
>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>> patient
>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very
>>> disappointed
>>>> in
>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>>> floated
>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>>>> short
>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>>>> price,
>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>>> of
>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you
>>> a
>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>>> 2.".
>>>>> This
>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
>>> is
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
>>> of
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.? It won't be long now!? ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>> grateful
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>>>> out
>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.? I reached out to his offer
>>>>> and we
>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.? Once he shipped
>>>> them
>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>> Lees
>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .? The
>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.? Which leads me
>>>> to
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> question.? As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>>> those
>>>>>>> North Sails from him.? I of course would hold him fully responsible
>>>> for
>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.? I suppose it's a risk I took
>>> dealing
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a private party.? I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>>>> and
>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>>>> know,
>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>> or
>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>> they
>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.? I don't have the
>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:43:31 -0500
> From: Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> To: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID:
> <CABbc6O4hYEZgjFdS4UjkO1XDo-8TuZMzuX5cY8mP69FWZYU_zQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all possible!
>
> Cindy Spitzer
> 443-980-7367
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Cindy. It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris Geankoplis <
>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Cindy! Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I
>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>
>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>> large
>>> and small.
>>>
>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery options,
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>> Stan's
>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>
>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>
>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>> 443-980-7367
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>
>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
>>>> somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>>>> sails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike
>> in
>>>>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
>>>> out
>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>> 1984
>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>>>>> check
>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you feel
>>>>> you
>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>> might
>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>> patient
>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>>>> disappointed
>>>>> in
>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you
>>>> a
>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>>>> 2.".
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
>>>> is
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>> grateful
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his offer
>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he shipped
>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>> Lees
>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads me
>>>>> to
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>>>> those
>>>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully responsible
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>> dealing
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>> or
>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>> they
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:11:18 -0600
> From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID: <15327DB6-3987-4C30-BBCA-B1255E86E413 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> So where is it being moved to? Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things settle down for us.
>
> Chris G.
> Xenos
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all possible!
>>
>> Cindy Spitzer
>> 443-980-7367
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Cindy. It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris Geankoplis <
>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cindy! Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I
>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>
>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>> large
>>>> and small.
>>>>
>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery options,
>>>> etc.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>> Stan's
>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>
>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>
>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is
>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike
>>> in
>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
>>>>> out
>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>> 1984
>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>>>>>> check
>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you feel
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>> might
>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
>>>>> is
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his offer
>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he shipped
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads me
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully responsible
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 23:30:25 -0500
> From: Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> Message-ID:
> <CABbc6O7UuwHxS+wz_0Xuuuy+OXXL7+20mhKPU8D_UaCvP+ifog at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Multiple locations.
> Still being developed, as we can.
>
> Would love to get together with you sometime, Chris. It's been a million
> years.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 11:11?PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So where is it being moved to? Wish I could volunteer, maybe when things
>> settle down for us.
>>
>> Chris G.
>> Xenos
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2025, at 8:51?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Not so much me, but our wonderful volunteers are making it all possible!
>>>
>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>> 443-980-7367
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025, 9:06?PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list <
>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Cindy. It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.
>>>> Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
>>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY
>>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris Geankoplis
>> <
>>>> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Cindy! Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I
>>>> need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
>>>> Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
>>>>> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
>>>>> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
>>>> large
>>>>> and small.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
>>>>> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
>> options,
>>>>> etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
>>>>> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
>>>> Stan's
>>>>> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
>>>>> otherwise busy lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla
>> is
>>>>>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up. Are those sails listed on the website
>>>>>> somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
>>>>>>> sails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Spitzer
>>>>>>> 443-980-7367
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
>>>>>>>> We have spoken about this before. I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike
>>>> in
>>>>>>>> ?2021 or 22. That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
>> and
>>>>>>>> remains my next project.
>>>>>>>> Regarding ?another note?, I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
>>>>>>>> willing to part with. It is stashed away currently but I will dig
>> it
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
>>>> 1984
>>>>>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other and
>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of whatever you
>> feel
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
>>>>>>>> Here is my email.
>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
>>>>>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
>>>>>>>> Ric
>>>>>>>> Dadventure
>>>>>>>> HBNY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now. Many promises
>>>>>>> unkept,
>>>>>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
>>>>>>> patient
>>>>>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived. Very
>>>>>> disappointed
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> how this turned out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
>>>>>>>> floated
>>>>>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
>> it's
>>>>>>>> short
>>>>>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
>> on a
>>>>>>>> price,
>>>>>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
>> you
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
>>>>>> 2.".
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
>> that
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
>>>>>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
>> behalf
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well. It won't be long now! ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
>>>>>>> grateful
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
>>>>>>>> supplies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
>> parting
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list. I reached out to his
>> offer
>>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails. Once he
>> shipped
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
>>>>>> Lees
>>>>>>>> Sails
>>>>>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams . The
>>>>>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
>> believe
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning. Which leads
>> me
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> question. As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
>> it
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> North Sails from him. I of course would hold him fully
>> responsible
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> this if this was truly the case. I suppose it's a risk I took
>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> a private party. I have found every other sailor to be 100%
>> helpful
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> honest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let
>> me
>>>>>>>> know,
>>>>>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
>> mwhornblower at gmail.com
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> 612-770-4531
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested. I don't have the
>>>>>>>> budget at
>>>>>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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